On Jun 10, 5:17 pm, Ben Holmes <
ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> Found in the censored (alt.assassination.jfk) forum, with the title: "Another
> Assertion By Ben..."
>
> Of course, "Bud" can't flat out state that he thinks I'm lying, but the title
> implies it, without ever saying it.
Still can`t figure out that aajfk is moderated, can you stupid?
> The *best* one can say is that "Bud"
> believes I can't cite for what I've stated.
Why not address what I did say?
> Let's keep that in mind as we dissect this:
No need to dissect. Just address what I said. No running, no
dancing, just answering.
> In article <
c367bc1f-d300-46d7-ba09-2baabc39f...@v9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Bud says...
>
>
>
> > Number 13,796 that he will run from supporting...
>
> Hyperbole... and ad hominem attempting to replace debate on the evidence.
<snicker> I`m sure the real number is much higher.
> > "How silly! The over-riding majority of witnesses pointed to one or
> >the other location... very few pointed to both.
>
> Absolutely true. An historical fact that "Bud" was unable to refute.
>
> > That's merely historical fact.
>
> Again, absolutely true.
>
> > A fact that you can't give a credible and non-conspiratorial
> >explanation for.
>
> Quite self-evidently true - "Bud" refused to even *try* to offer an explanation
> for what he clearly knows is historical fact.
Again, it isn`t the information that is the problem. But you refuse
to put the ideas you draw from the information on the table for
scrutiny. The reason for this is because your ideas are retarded. If I
held your ideas I would keep them close to my vest also.
> He *KNOWS that my initial statement is true, and he RUNS AWAY from even *trying*
> to explain it.
*YOU* said this shit, retard, not me. *YOU* need to back it up, not
me. I don`t have to do anything, If you can`t back up what you say
STFU.
> Let alone in credible and non-conspiratorial terms...
>
> So, with a little help from the kooks, again; a completely true statement.
>
> > Knowing, as I do, that the evidence shows a conspiracy, it's *EASY*
> >to account for the evidence."
>
> Yep... So simple, that those who are familiar with the evidence will understand
> with no further explanation.
So far running and dancing. I haven`t read down to the questions,
lets see if Ben was man enough to try to answer them.
> > This raises two questions...
>
> Actually, it raises only one... WHY IS "BUD" A YELLOW-BELLIED COWARD WHO REFUSES
> TO EVEN *TRY* TO OFFER CREDIBLE AND NON-CONSPIRATORIAL EXPLANATIONS FOR THE
> EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE?
*YOU* said you could do it. Here is what you wrote...
" Knowing, as I do, that the evidence shows a conspiracy, it's
*EASY*to account for the evidence."
But as soon as I ask you to put up you run like a cunt.
You are trying to make it about me, but *I* didn`t make you make
those assertions. You chose to. And when called upon to support then,
you run like a cunt.
So far it looks like the revised number is going to be 13,797.
> "Bud" knows that it can easily be explained in conspiratorial terms.
Dancing.
> "Bud" refuses to even *TRY* to offer an explanation from the LNT'er side.
Dancing.
You said it was *EASY* Ben!
> "Bud" undoubtedly knows what a blazingly simple explanation I'm going to give...
> yet *NO-ONE* knows what *his* explanation could possibly be. (Other than the
> frequently given outright denials)
I don`t even know what my answer will be, not even sure what the
question is just now.
> > What is Ben`s conspiratorial explanation that accounts for the
> >evidence?
>
> Do I actually *have* to say it?
>
> Okay... 'Multiple Shooters'.
>
> Wow!! I'll bet that was a real eye-opener for the kooks!
From witnesses largely indicating singular shooting locations you
get multiple shooting locations? How?
> > And if the witnesses are reliable why are they indicating two
> >separate locations for the origin of the shots?
>
> WHAT A MORON!!!
Not such a moron as I expect you to touch this question with a ten
foot pole.
> And I guarantee that not a *SINGLE* person will point out the fallacy of this
> question in the censored forum. This fact alone should illustrate just how
> dishonest the kooks are that inhabit the censored forum.
>
> The question *presupposes* that there's only one shooter. Therefore, the witness
> cannot be "reliable".
No, it predisposes no such thing. This is called a strawman.
*YOU* wrote...
"How silly! The over-riding majority of witnesses pointed to one or
the other location... very few pointed to both."
Given that the majority of witnesses pointed to *singular*
locations (all shots coming from a single place or direction), some of
the witnesses *MUST* be wrong. How can they all be right? I haven`t a
clue what fallacy you think you are seeing in this basic logic.
> Sorta like the eyewitnesses to an accident on Hwy 5 - "And if the witnesses are
> reliable why are they indicating auto traffic going both North *AND* South?"
YOU FUCKING MORON! YOU HAVE HALF THE WITNESSES SAYING *ALL* THE
TRAFFIC IS GOING NORTH, AND THE OTHER HAVE SAYING *ALL* THE TRAFFIC IS
GOING SOUTH!
Some can`t be right, dunce.
> Maybe because traffic *does* go both directions???
>
> Or that the answer is that there really *are* two separate locations for the
> origins of the shots...
But you called it "historical fact" that the over-riding majority
pointed to "one or the other". "One or the other" does not equal
"both", stupid.
> I must admit to getting a good laugh at the stupidity of these kooks...
<snicker> You think you aced this quiz, don`t you? Poor deluded
idiot.
> P.S. Remember that the title implied I was lying...
Thats all I can do there. I knew you`d bring it here and prove my
case.
> or at the least couldn't
> support my statement?
You didn`t. And you answered neither of my questions. You ducked one
and erected a strawman for the other.
> Yet the kook can't show *ANYTHING* I stated that isn't the
> simple truth. And just as embarrassing for the kooks, was totally unable to
> provide *HIS* explanation.
My explanation is simple. The majority of witnesses were correct
when they indicated that all the shots came from one place. The echoes
confused some where that one place was.