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I love outsourcing because Indian men are hot!!! :)

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Lana Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:28:45 AM12/30/04
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I don't understand why you racists are against H1-B and outsourcing! I'm a
white female but I think that Indian men are HOT! I become aroused every
time I hear of job losses in the US because of sexy Indian men who do better
work! And Indian men are better in bed.

I can't wait to marry an Indian man and having an Indian baby grow inside of
me. I like holding hands in public with a hot Indian guy with black skin
and watch unemployed white computer geeks staring at us in their hatred and
jealousy. One of them called me a whore and a race traitor so I reported
the incident to the police and they are going to charge him with inciting
racial hatred.

I don't hate white guys, just the racist ones. I think that it would be
better if you racist whites stopped complaining about immigration and
outsourcing. Not only do Indians add more diversity and cultural
enrichment, they also do great computer work according to economists and
George Bush. If a right-wing isolationist like Bush can be in favour of
outsourcing and H1-B, then what does that make of you who oppose this? You
don't want to be more right-wing and more war-mongering than George Bush, do
you?

Yours in racial harmony,
Lana Tavington


ajv2003

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:32:07 AM12/30/04
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Lana Tavington wrote:
> I don't understand why you racists are against H1-B and outsourcing! I'm a
> white female but I think that Indian men are HOT! I become aroused every
> time I hear of job losses in the US because of sexy Indian men who do better
> work! And Indian men are better in bed.

That's a plus, have much experience to make this judgement? African man
are better yet some say.

Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:43:34 AM12/30/04
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> Lana Tavington wrote:
>> I don't understand why you racists are against H1-B and outsourcing! I'm
>> a white female but I think that Indian men are HOT! I become aroused
>> every time I hear of job losses in the US because of sexy Indian men who
>> do better work! And Indian men are better in bed.
>
> That's a plus, have much experience to make this judgement? African man
> are better yet some say.

I can vouch for my daughter that she dates men of all colours because I
taught her the virtues of racial diversity and tolerance. Yes, she does
have a penchant for dating dark Indian men. Good on her, I say!

Full stop,
Tavington

R U L E B R I T A N N I A !!!


Green Shampoo

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:50:57 AM12/30/04
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"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
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What? "Good on her?" Have you followed this entire thread?

OP: "Indian men are better in bed."
reply: "have much experience?"
you: "MY DAUGHTER DOES!!!"

I don't know what kind of relationship you have with your daughter, but I
think she'd really want to smack you in the face for putting her sex life
out for everybody.


indiaBPOking

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Dec 30, 2004, 4:57:05 AM12/30/04
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I think it would be a broad-minded open kinda relationship.
indiaBPOking.

Kudlow Fan

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Dec 30, 2004, 6:48:02 AM12/30/04
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TROLL!


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Kudlow Fan

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>
>
> Lana Tavington wrote:
>> I don't understand why you racists are against H1-B and outsourcing! I'm
>> a white female but I think that Indian men are HOT! I become aroused
>> every time I hear of job losses in the US because of sexy Indian men who
>> do better work! And Indian men are better in bed.
>
> That's a plus, have much experience to make this judgement? African man
> are better yet some say.
>

Don't feed the trolls, okay...

indiaBPOking

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Dec 30, 2004, 7:18:41 AM12/30/04
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I think someone's just trying to be funny here...how can somebody love
outsourcing?? Its just a business strategy and nothing more! On that
note here is another funny one:

India likes to outsource from America because American women are smart,
sweet and sexy!

indiaBPOking.

NerdRevenge

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Dec 30, 2004, 11:10:24 AM12/30/04
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NICE TRY SPAM BOY INDIAN PRICK

AND SINCE WHEN THE FUCK IS INDIAN A RACE?????


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Lana Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 11:29:09 AM12/30/04
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> India likes to outsource from America because American women are smart,
> sweet and sexy!

Good :) I know me and my friends want to visit India very soon so we could
date sexy Indian guys.

Once you go Indian, you never go back! :)

> indiaBPOking.
>


Lana Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 11:32:13 AM12/30/04
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> What? "Good on her?" Have you followed this entire thread?
>
> OP: "Indian men are better in bed."
> reply: "have much experience?"
> you: "MY DAUGHTER DOES!!!"
>
> I don't know what kind of relationship you have with your daughter, but I
> think she'd really want to smack you in the face for putting her sex life
> out for everybody.

That was my Dad who posted that message. Sometimes my Dad lets me have my
Indian boyfriend sleep over in my bedroom because he supports interracial
dating.

What's wrong with that?? Are you racist?

Lana


NerdRevenge

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Dec 30, 2004, 11:53:51 AM12/30/04
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"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
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>> Lana Tavington wrote:
>>> I don't understand why you racists are against H1-B and outsourcing!
>>> I'm a white female but I think that Indian men are HOT! I become
>>> aroused every time I hear of job losses in the US because of sexy Indian
>>> men who do better work! And Indian men are better in bed.

Since when the fuck did Canada start using US H1-B to import indians??

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NerdRevenge

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"Lana Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
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>> India likes to outsource from America because American women are smart,
>> sweet and sexy!
>
> Good :) I know me and my friends want to visit India very soon so we could
> date sexy Indian guys.
>


HEY DUMB FUCK...HE SAID AMERICAN WOMEN, NOT CANADA

Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 12:11:53 PM12/30/04
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>>>> I don't understand why you racists are against H1-B and outsourcing!
>>>> I'm a white female but I think that Indian men are HOT! I become
>>>> aroused every time I hear of job losses in the US because of sexy
>>>> Indian men who do better work! And Indian men are better in bed.
>
> Since when the fuck did Canada start using US H1-B to import indians??

In case you didn't know, I am an expatriate Brit who moved to America and
married an American woman and we have a daughter. But we are in holidays in
Canada, hence the reason why I'm posting from a Canadian ISP.


NerdRevenge

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Dec 30, 2004, 12:23:42 PM12/30/04
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>oh bull shit.
<plonk>

Terry Lomax

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Dec 30, 2004, 2:00:25 PM12/30/04
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Interesting troll. Pisses off white racists while drawing laughs from
non-racists. Some really gullible people might have actually believed
you're a different person from who we know you are, but you crossposted
to your same distinctive set of newsgroups, thus revealing your
identity.

Most of the Hindustani that steal American jobs are effete
light-skinned upper caste Hindus who consider themselves white. The
darker skinned people from India are less likely to get jobs, though if
they do, they tend to perform them better than the light-skinned Hindu
fundies from North India.

I threw away your opening sentence as it's an unoriginal argument
that's dead wrong.

leslie

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Dec 30, 2004, 2:00:48 PM12/30/04
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Lana Tavington (tavi...@zsazsabinks.com) wrote:
: > India likes to outsource from America because American women are smart,
:

Indian women are in short supply in some areas of India. Perhaps you can
sell yourself to the highest bidder:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
BBC NEWS | South Asia | India's lost girls

"Tuesday, 4 February, 2003, 10:51 GMT
India's lost girls

Jill McGivering
BBC South Asia correspondent in Punjab

A marriage crisis is hitting thousands of men in parts of rural India
which are running out of potential brides.

The traditional preference for boys instead of girls has led to
widespread abuse of modern pre-natal scans.

The technology should protect the health of mother and baby.

People say, you have two girl children, you have done some sins in
your past life

But, wrongly used, it is a death sentence for unwanted girls.

The practice of determining the sex of a foetus and aborting girls is
illegal, but widespread.

The worst affected states, such as Haryana and Punjab, now have some
of the most skewed sex ratios in the world - and the proportion of
baby girls is still falling.

Buying brides

A whole generation of young men is failing to find brides..."


--Jerry Leslie
Note: les...@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email

Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 2:41:58 PM12/30/04
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> Interesting troll. Pisses off white racists while drawing laughs from
> non-racists. Some really gullible people might have actually believed
> you're a different person from who we know you are, but you crossposted
> to your same distinctive set of newsgroups, thus revealing your
> identity.

I am Tavington, king of all trolls. Here are some of my greatest hits:

http://tinyurl.com/4m9p5
http://tinyurl.com/4tjfu
http://tinyurl.com/4xdjt
http://tinyurl.com/64khz

> Most of the Hindustani that steal American jobs are effete
> light-skinned upper caste Hindus who consider themselves white. The
> darker skinned people from India are less likely to get jobs, though if
> they do, they tend to perform them better than the light-skinned Hindu
> fundies from North India.
>
> I threw away your opening sentence as it's an unoriginal argument
> that's dead wrong.

I admit, this is not one of my best trolls. Too obvious. Frankly, I'm a
washed-up troll who is past his prime, I haven't had the time or the energy
to create really good trolls as of late.

I am planning my comeback very soon.


Tavington

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Dec 30, 2004, 2:50:38 PM12/30/04
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> but you crossposted
> to your same distinctive set of newsgroups, thus revealing your
> identity.

Heh. I guess you thought I was "Your Special Friend" or "IndiaBPOKing",
those who like to post news about outsourcing. I guess I really didn't have
to fess up being a troll, but I did... oh well.

No, I was just a lurker on these groups who crossposted to the same groups
as these trolls did for maximum effect.


israel t

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Dec 30, 2004, 3:18:55 PM12/30/04
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"Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> writes:

> I am Tavington, king of all trolls. Here are some of my greatest hits:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4m9p5
> http://tinyurl.com/4tjfu
> http://tinyurl.com/4xdjt
> http://tinyurl.com/64khz

You need to do more work on the frenzied screaming.

The irrational foaming at the mouth needs a bit of polish at the edges too.

:-)

Green Shampoo

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"Lana Tavington" <tavi...@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
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Did I say one thing about the Indian man (or men) you are screwing? No, I
didn't. I just found it weird that your dad (and now you) find it acceptable
to put your sex life out in the public.
Instead of putting words in my mouth like the racist morons in this
newsgroup (I'm posting from a.p.i) do, why doesn't anyone listen to what I'm
saying? They (and now you) have always been telling me what I'm saying. I
believe every side on these issues live in coo-coo clocks.
Anyway, to answer your question, would I be racist if I haven't slept with a
white woman (my race) since I was in high school? Yeah, I'm probably racist
against my own race, I don't know. I just don't find white women or black
women attractive. Everybody in the middle is fair game to me.


Thundercleets

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Dec 30, 2004, 7:19:12 PM12/30/04
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Since you began life as a man, in your pre-op state it can be hard to
get dates. But like most of those Hindi girls that go wild in the dance
clubs in the city and take it in the ass in the bathroom Indian men
must find you frighteningly large but alluring and eventually surrender
themselves to your feminine manliness.
And you thought life as a troll shill was gonna be easy?

comp...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2004, 8:56:54 PM12/30/04
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Like the KKK, Indians do not date or marry out of their race.
Nice try troll.

donn...@aol.com

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Dec 31, 2004, 3:00:45 PM12/31/04
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Hey Lana the Lover,
I'm sure you love Indian men. I can even understand why. It almost
makes me want to be gay when I see those viral Indian men with their
greasy hair and dark eyes. How about their bushy elvis looking
sideburns. What I really think you like is that unbathed look. You know
the kind of look I'm talking about? Even after 5 showers in a row they
still look as if they need 2 moe showers.
Lana, I'm sure us americam white males are really upset to be losing
someone like you. You are probably the typical wall flower intellectual
that has absolutely no looks whatsoever but is "BEAUTIFUL ON THE
INSIDE". Does that sound familiar? Because the constant rejection of
white males you are now on a crusade to "punish us". I hope you and all
of the other beasts that can't get a man go ahead and marry an Indian.
Maybe you can get them full citizenship.

comp...@hotmail.com

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donn...@aol.com wrote:
> Hey Lana the Lover,
> I'm sure you love Indian men. I can even understand why. It almost
> makes me want to be gay when I see those viral Indian men with their
> greasy hair and dark eyes. How about their bushy elvis looking

Like gazing into the eyes of a racoon. Ah, how romantic.


> sideburns. What I really think you like is that unbathed look. You
know
> the kind of look I'm talking about? Even after 5 showers in a row
they
> still look as if they need 2 moe showers.
> Lana, I'm sure us americam white males are really upset to be losing
> someone like you. You are probably the typical wall flower
intellectual
> that has absolutely no looks whatsoever but is "BEAUTIFUL ON THE
> INSIDE". Does that sound familiar? Because the constant rejection of
> white males you are now on a crusade to "punish us". I hope you and
all

She sounds bitter because white males can spot a skank a mile away.

aj...@myself.com

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NerdRevenge wrote:
> NICE TRY SPAM BOY INDIAN PRICK
>
> AND SINCE WHEN THE FUCK IS INDIAN A RACE?????
>
>

"Indian" a race in the USA as much as "white" is a race.
Race division is a lot more culturally ingrained to the US than
scientific.
That is why there are so many types of americans with different
prefixes, white, black, asian, indian, mexican etc. that are used in
sensus.

Took a trip to Stockholm a few months ago, and I noticed lot of a
east/south european immigrants over there. And their
appearance/features can be distinguished from a typical native Swedish
person.
But this distinction is obliterated in the US under the common banner
"white".

Then in california, an optometrist told me that the people of my "race"
(I'm ethnically Indian BTW) generally has bigger iris.

Mohmmad Kaffir

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Dec 31, 2004, 8:35:40 PM12/31/04
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Relax and take it easy.
This was just a troll.
No need to expose your insecurities over the net.

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orb_at_ct...@fastmail.co.uk

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NerdRevenge wrote:
> NICE TRY SPAM BOY INDIAN PRICK
>
> AND SINCE WHEN THE FUCK IS INDIAN A RACE?????

Indeed. India seems to be a complex mixture of races living in
a hierarchy or Caste System[1]. At the top are light-skinned types[2]
and at the bottom are the dark-skinned aboriginals[3]. The layers do
not mingle. In India, 'miscegenation' is fatal[4].

Refs

[1] http://www.friesian.com/caste.htm

[2] http://www.bigeye.com/082601.htm
"In recent tests, Indian scientists discovered that high-caste Hindus,
particularly Brahmins, are genetically closer to Europeans than they
are to dark-skinned, Dravidian Indians. Caste became a rigid system
whereby India's fair-skinned ruling class kept lower and swarthier
orders in their places - as laborers, landless peasants, and servants -
exploiting them in the name of religion."

[3] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1513375.stm

[4] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1480302.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1186101.stm

ajv2003

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Jan 1, 2005, 12:45:17 AM1/1/05
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The old saying "people in glass houses, should not throw stones" applies
here, you think? Besides what has this got to do with some female that
thinks man from India are hot?

orb_at_ct...@fastmail.co.uk

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ajv2003 wrote:
> The old saying "people in glass houses, should not throw stones"
applies
> here, you think?

Namaste Mahabharatiya!

I cannot usefully respond since I am unfamiliar with your
living arrangements. Do you live in a greenhouse?

> Besides what has this got to do with some female that
> thinks man from India are hot?

Well, what I post is true, and what the troll posted was
fictitious, so they represent a philosophical contrast, at
least.

Sucrekiya,

Max

comp...@hotmail.com

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And when they open businesses in the United States, they hire
only Indians.
These people are as ignorant and racist as the KKK.

indiaBPOking

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Jan 4, 2005, 12:32:01 AM1/4/05
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Not true.

indiaBPOking.

J B

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Jan 5, 2005, 9:00:19 PM1/5/05
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Lana Tavington wrote:
> > India likes to outsource from America because American women are
smart,
> > sweet and sexy!
>
> Good :) I know me and my friends want to visit India very soon so we
could
> date sexy Indian guys.
>

Good for you, Lana! You go girl!

> Once you go Indian, you never go back! :)
>

You can say that again, sweetie :)

-J B

J B

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leslie wrote:
> Lana Tavington (tavi...@zsazsabinks.com) wrote:
> : > India likes to outsource from America because American women are
smart,
> : > sweet and sexy!
> :
> : Good :) I know me and my friends want to visit India very soon so
we could
> : date sexy Indian guys.
> :
> : Once you go Indian, you never go back! :)
> :
>
> Indian women are in short supply in some areas of India. Perhaps you
can
> sell yourself to the highest bidder:
>

Very flattering that you're learning more about India! Will help you
when you kneel and beg an Indian for a job :) Meanwhile, learn how some
American mothers cut off the arms of their newborn babies:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4673226,00.html

Lawyer: Bible Led Mom to Sever Baby's Arms

Tuesday December 14, 2004 10:16 PM
By LISA FALKENBERG
Associated Press Writer

McKINNEY, Texas (AP) - A mother who admitted killing her baby daughter
by severing the girl's arms was guided by a Bible passage in which
Jesus refers to cutting off body parts to cast away sin, the woman's
attorney said Tuesday.

Dena Schlosser, a 35-year-old housewife with a history of mental
illness, has referred to the New Testament passage since the killing of
10-month-old Margaret, attorney David Haynes told The Associated Press.


In the Book of Matthew, Jesus says: ``If thy right hand offend thee,
cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that
one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be
cast into hell.''

Schlosser was charged with capital murder Nov. 22, after she told a 911
operator she had cut off her baby's arms. Police found her in the
living room, covered in blood, still holding a knife and listening to a
hymn.

Haynes said Schlosser was mentally ill at the time.

He said Schlosser is still disoriented but is improving under
medication she is receiving in jail.

``She knows the baby is dead,'' he said. ``I think she understands
generally the physical facts of how that came to be, but she is now
conscious that her mind has not been clear for years and she's still
coming to grips with that.''

Schlosser had been hospitalized for postpartum depression in January as
part of an investigation by the state's child-protection agency. Social
workers said she exhibited symptoms of psychosis but improved with
medication and psychiatric help, and the agency closed the
investigation in August.

indiaBPOking

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J B wrote:
> leslie wrote:
> > Lana Tavington (tavi...@zsazsabinks.com) wrote:
> > : > India likes to outsource from America because American women
are
> smart,
> > : > sweet and sexy!
> > :
> > : Good :) I know me and my friends want to visit India very soon so
> we could
> > : date sexy Indian guys.
> > :
> > : Once you go Indian, you never go back! :)
> > :
> >
> > Indian women are in short supply in some areas of India. Perhaps
you
> can
> > sell yourself to the highest bidder:
> >
>
> Very flattering that you're learning more about India! Will help you
> when you kneel and beg an Indian for a job :) Meanwhile, learn how
some
> American mothers cut off the arms of their newborn babies:

We will have to surrender ourselves completely to Mother India.

indiaBPOking.

leslie

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J B (dine...@hotmail.com) wrote:
:
: Very flattering that you're learning more about India! Will help you
: when you kneel and beg an Indian for a job :) Meanwhile,learn how some

: American mothers cut off the arms of their newborn babies:
:
: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4673226,00.html

: Lawyer: Bible Led Mom to Sever Baby's Arms
:

There's a *VAST* difference between a deranged woman, probably suffering
from post-partum depression, and institutionalized mis-use of technology
to abort female fetuses.

Kamal R. Prasad

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Subject: Re: I love outsourcing because Indian men are hot!!! :)

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>There's a *VAST* difference between a deranged woman, probably
suffering
>from post-partum depression, and institutionalized mis-use of
technology
>to abort female fetuses.

It has not been instituionalized by the govt, and is actually illegal.
The people who opt to abort female fetuses are doing so -because of
poverty.
I mean, dowry and arranged marriage being a norm in India -every
parent who has a girl child needs to think of how to arrange for the
dowry if he is to marry off his daughter to someone who will take good
care of her after marriage. So the folks who are not economically well
off prefer not to have a child at all than have a girl child who they
cannot marry off to a respectable person. Its actually not different
from aborting because they cannot afford to raise any more children.
The folks who are relatively better off -have no problems with having
a girl child [which is not to say that they make better/nobler humans
than the poor ones -but just that they have fewer constraints].

regards
-kamal

J B

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Jan 6, 2005, 3:14:29 PM1/6/05
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leslie wrote:
> J B (dine...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> :
> : Very flattering that you're learning more about India! Will help
you
> : when you kneel and beg an Indian for a job :) Meanwhile,learn how
some
> : American mothers cut off the arms of their newborn babies:
> :
> : http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4673226,00.html
> : Lawyer: Bible Led Mom to Sever Baby's Arms
> :
>
> There's a *VAST* difference between a deranged woman, probably
suffering
> from post-partum depression, and institutionalized mis-use of
technology
> to abort female fetuses.
>

*What* institution?! The brain-dead American flaunts his ignorance yet
again :)

Perhaps you would like to read about one of America's medical
"institutions":

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment

"The United States government did something that was wrong-deeply,
profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to
integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist."
-President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to
the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997

For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service
(PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of
syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from
one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease
they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were
being treated for "bad blood,"1 their doctors had no intention of
curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be
collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately
left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis-which can
include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and
death. "As I see it," one of the doctors involved explained, "we
have no further interest in these patients until they die."

leslie

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Kamal R. Prasad (kam...@acm.org) wrote:
: From: leslie (LES...@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM)

: Subject: Re: I love outsourcing because Indian men are hot!!! :)
:
: View this article only
: Newsgroups:
: Date: 2005-01-05 19:57:46 PST
:
: >There's a *VAST* difference between a deranged woman, probably
: suffering
: >from post-partum depression, and institutionalized mis-use of
: technology
: >to abort female fetuses.
:
: It has not been instituionalized by the govt, and is actually illegal.
:

Yes, but the practice is still widespread:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
BBC NEWS | South Asia | India's lost girls

"...Government officials raid clinics to make sure doctors are not
abusing modern technology by tipping off parents they were carrying girls.

In many clinics, the illegal and systematic abortion of girls is
common practice..."


:
: The people who opt to abort female fetuses are doing so -because of
: poverty.
:

There are better ways of population control.

J B

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Jan 7, 2005, 9:23:57 PM1/7/05
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leslie wrote:
> Kamal R. Prasad (kam...@acm.org) wrote:
> : From: leslie (LES...@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM)
> : Subject: Re: I love outsourcing because Indian men are hot!!! :)
> :
> : View this article only
> : Newsgroups:
> : Date: 2005-01-05 19:57:46 PST
> :
> : >There's a *VAST* difference between a deranged woman, probably
> : suffering
> : >from post-partum depression, and institutionalized mis-use of
> : technology
> : >to abort female fetuses.
> :
> : It has not been instituionalized by the govt, and is actually
illegal.
> :
>
> Yes, but the practice is still widespread:
>

Just as the practice of enforcing the death penalty to minorities is
widespread in America:

http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/usa/

"Although racial disparities in the application of the death penalty
among the states have long been documented, a new study by the U.S.
Department of Justice found dramatic racial and geographic imbalances
in the administration of the federal death penalty as well. The study
found, for example, that 80 percent of federal defendants who faced
capital charges, and 74 percent of convicted defendants for whom
prosecutors recommended the death penalty, were members of minorities.
The study increased public concern that race plays an impermissible
role in death penalty decisions."

-J B

Max Muir

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Indian men begin to attack females even before they are born.
Ultrasound
technology, imported from the West, was quickly pressed into service
as an adjunct to Indian male dominance (IMD). Under IMD, women are
second class humans, and the birth of a girl in a Indian home is a
cause for lament.

As the ancient Indian menus have it:

[ Taitt. Samh. VI.5.10.3 ] [ Muir I 26 ]
"Tasmat striyam jatam parasyanti ut pumamsam haranti"
"Hence they reject a female child when born, and take up a male."

Atharva Veda.6.2.3 : " Let a female child be born somewhere else;
here, let a male child be born."


Many Indian men will pressure their wives to abort the foetus as soon
as its sex can be detected. This is an extension of earlier, cruder
methods.

http://www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html


"Lakshmi already had one daughter, so when she gave birth to a second
girl, she killed her. For the three days of her second child's short
life,
Lakshmi admits, she refused to nurse her. To silence the infant's
famished cries, the impoverished village woman squeezed the milky sap
from an
oleander shrub, mixed it with castor oil, and forced the poisonous
potion
down the newborn's throat. The baby bled from the nose, then died soon
afterward."


The practice of murdering females has resulted in a profound imbalance
in the sex ratio of Indian society.


"Spend 600 rupees now and save 50,000 rupees later"


http://www.indianchild.com/abortion_infanticide_foeticide_india.htm


"According to a recent report by the United Nations Children's Fund
(UNICEF) up to 50 million girls and women are missing from India's
population as a result of systematic gender discrimination in India."


50 million girls and women!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
"I couldn't find a local girl," said Chandram, who purchased
a wife last year from Bangladesh. "So I had to go outside to
get married. But it wasn't cheap."

His bride looked about 15. Now she is thousands of miles from
home."


Notice how the only thing bothering Chandram is the cost.


Indian girls are routinely sexually harassed, a practice called
"Eve teasing". Everything in Indianism has a pseudonym, to disguise
its real nature. For example, child slavery in India is called
"Child servitude". Sexual assault in India is called "Eve teasing".
Murdering your wife is called 'Dowry death'.


http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m2294/2003_April/101174063/p1/arti...


What's next for our hapless Indian girl? College? A career? No,
marriage. Indian men believe in getting them early, so early in fact,
Westerners would call it "cradle-snatching". Child marriage is
sanctioned by IMD.

Religious sanction for child marriage in Indian menm...

[ Manu IX.94 ]
"A man, aged thirty years, shall marry a maiden of twelve
who pleases him, or a man of twenty-four a girl of eight
years of age; if (the performance of) his duties would
otherwise be impeded, he must marry sooner."

Advice on child marriage between Indian men on the WWW.

http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap2.htm
"Just as a boy dedicates himself to his guru, a girl must
dedicate herself to her husband from her childhood until
the start of their consural life and beyond. "


"According to the sastras, a boy's upanayana must be per-
formed when he is seven years old. A girl must be married
at the same age. If a boy is to be initiated into brahmac-
arya before his mind is disturbed by kama, a girl is to be
married before she feels the carnal urge. She must also
accept her husband as her guru. According to sastras, the
guru must be looked upon as Isvara. In the same way a child
bride must think of her husband as both guru and Isvara and
dedicate herself whole-heartedly to him. She will be able
adopt such an attitude only when she is married very young."

http://hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_children.htm
"After marriage a girl child becomes the sole property of her
husband and cannot stay with her parents however strong might
have been their relationship."


Unfortunately, child marriage has deleterious effects on the
health of the girls involved. The chance of being flung on the
funeral pyre of a dead Indian husband might have receded somewhat,
but child marriage is lethal in other ways.

http://www.ihsnet.org.in/HealthSystemsFactSheets/ReproductiveHealth.htm


"Pre-puberty marriage is dysfunctional not only for the individual but
also for the family and the society. It affects the health of the
mother,
for at an early age a woman is not fully prepared for the great
physical
and mental strains of maternity. The comparative immaturity of mother
in
turn affects the health of her children too. Since by marrying at an
early
age, the period available for begetting children is large, size of the
family also becomes large which makes it difficult to maintain minimum
living standards. In some cases child marriage creates maladjustment's
in
the family, ultimately leading to family disorganization."


OK, she's married, with a husband to love and cherish her.
Home free, right? Fat chance.


http://www.indianchild.com/dowry_in_india.htm


"The practice of dowry abuse is rising in India. The most severe is
'bride burning', the burning of women whose dowries were not considered

sufficient by their husband or in-laws. Most of these incidents are
reported as accidental burns in the kitchen or are disguised as
suicide.
It is evident that there exist deep rooted prejudices against women in
India. Cultural practices such as the payment of dowry tend to
subordinate
women in Indian society."


"When the dowry amount is not considered sufficient or is not
forthcoming,
the bride is often harassed, abused and made miserable. This abuse can
escalate to the point where the husband or his family burn the bride,
often by pouring kerosene on her and lighting it, usually killing her."


OK, the inlaws paid the dowry. Everything's OK, right? Nope.


http://www.indianchild.com/domestic_violence_in_india.htm


Common Forms of violence against Indian women include:


"Female feticide (selective abortion based on the fetus gender or sex
selection of child), Domestic violence, Dowry death or harassment ,
Mental and physical torture, Sexual trafficking, and Public
humiliation."


Public humiliation means being beaten up and paraded naked in the
streets.


"According to the 2002 study, 45 percent of Indian women are slapped,
kicked or beaten by their husbands. India also had the highest rate of
violence during pregnancy. Of the women reporting violence, 50 percent
were kicked, beaten or hit when pregnant. About 74.8 percent of the
women
who reported violence have attempted to commit suicide."


So, if she survives all this, what does Mrs. Indian have to look
forward
to? Not much. When Mr. Indian dies, Mrs. Indian is
kicked out by the inlaws, and banished.


http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9711/16/india.women/
"Even in these modern times, Indian men frown on widows who remarry.
The women
are often shunned by their families, blamed by their in-laws for the
deaths of their husbands. Many more flee their homes voluntarily,
fearing
they'll be abused if they stay."


So, poor Indian women undergo an assault from their menfolk that
begins before they are born and ends only with their death. See
"Narasimhan, Sakuntala. Sati: Widow Burning in India." for
further details on how this lethal misogyny arises from Indian
male attitudes towards women.

David Fabian

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"J B" <dine...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1105151037.7...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> Just as the practice of enforcing the death penalty to minorities is
> widespread in America:
>
> http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/usa/
>
> "Although racial disparities in the application of the death penalty
> among the states have long been documented, a new study by the U.S.
> Department of Justice found dramatic racial and geographic imbalances
> in the administration of the federal death penalty as well. The study
> found, for example, that 80 percent of federal defendants who faced
> capital charges, and 74 percent of convicted defendants for whom
> prosecutors recommended the death penalty, were members of mi-
> norities. The study increased public concern that race plays an im-
> permissible role in death penalty decisions."

If you are trying to prove that the U.S. legal system discriminates
against a minority, you must compare the percentages of convictions
*within* the minority. For example, if 90 percent of the perpetrators
are minorities, then anything less than a 90 percent representation
among convicts would mean the legal system *favored* minorities.
That is, within the minority, there would be a lower rate of conviction.

The legal system favors people who can pay their way out of any
crime they commit. For example, O.J. Simpson paid big money,
while Scott Peterson did not.


Don Zimmerman

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Jan 8, 2005, 5:10:57 PM1/8/05
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"David Fabian" <david.m...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> The legal system favors people who can pay their way out of any
> crime they commit. For example, O.J. Simpson paid big money,
> while Scott Peterson did not.

Not only that, but people can pay witnesses to crimes and victims of crimes
they have committed to go away and thereby not have to become involved with
the legal system in the first place.


J B

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Jan 8, 2005, 6:50:28 PM1/8/05
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Mr. Racist,

The conviction rate for drug offenses among blacks is *much higher*
than their corresponding ratio within the population that is involved
in drug offense. In other words, although only 20% of drug offenders
are black, 67% of those incarcerated for drug offense are black!

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00.htm#P54_1086

"Since the mid 1980s, the United States has undertaken aggressive law
enforcement strategies and criminal justice policies aimed at
curtailing drug abuse. The costs and benefits of this national war on
drugs are fiercely debated. What is not debatable, however, is its
impact on black Americans. Ostensibly color blind, the war on drugs has
been waged disproportionately against black Americans.
"Our research shows that blacks comprise 62.7 percent and whites 36.7
percent of all drug offenders admitted to state prison, even though
federal surveys and other data detailed in this report show clearly
that this racial disparity bears scant relation to racial differences
in drug offending. There are, for example, five times more white drug
users than black. Relative to population, black men are admitted to
state prison on drug charges at a rate that is 13.4 times greater than
that of white men."

harmony

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"Kamal R. Prasad" <kam...@acm.org> wrote in message
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the above is absolute nonsense.
dowry was devised as advance compensation for future nagging.


> regards
> -kamal


Dr. Jai Maharaj

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Jan 11, 2005, 3:33:13 PM1/11/05
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In article <10u84ds...@corp.supernews.com>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
> > regards
> > -kamal


> the above is absolute nonsense.
> dowry was devised as advance compensation for future nagging.

Mollywood has, but Hollywood has never made
a movie about dowry -- has it?

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Max Muir

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Jan 11, 2005, 5:47:30 PM1/11/05
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harmony wrote:
> the above is absolute nonsense.
> dowry was devised as advance compensation for future nagging.
Ghopal has been licking his pet toad again.

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