Rainbow Six Campaign Editor
Raid Slam
I realize this post might be considered off-topic for this area. But,
I'm posting it anyway.
I've completed version 1.2 of the program known as RsHack. A campaign
(apparently the only one to exist) editor for tom clancy's rainbow six
rogue spear pc game. The program is released as freeware, and is no
longer in beta testing. It has several features all easily selectable
from a mini GUI single keypress interface. The program contains no
viruses or trojans or RAT utilities. And it will not attempt to steal
nor collect any information about you or the software stored on your PC.
If you'd like to try out the program, or just want more information on
the program, you can visit http://www.coderz.net/Raid/rshack.htm Any
questions regarding the program will be answered as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
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Dalton
the program, you can visit http://www.coderz.net/Raid/rshack.htm Any
questions regarding the program will be answered as soon as possible.<<<
Heya RaiD ,
is it ok to post on my page as well?? (with full props of
course)
Dalt
Raid Slam
<1421145C07DA1EAD.07EEA2A8...@lp.airnews.net>,
TINLC#15...@utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) wrote:
> I believe you're about to find out what garnering trust means. Why
> should anyone believe you, the author of Toadie and other
> irritating viruses, when you say there's no malware imbedded in your
> program?
Good question Paul.
We'll see if I can answer it. Remember some time back (since you are a
regular here) when I said I'd do what I said? Well, that goes both
ways. If I tell you theres something in a program I've written, it's a
good bet their is. If I tell you a program i've written does NOT do
certain things, or contain certain items, real good bet it doesn't.
Of course, You could do what one of the Robert fellows here once did.
Accuse a legit program of mine of being something it isn't, then having
to admit you were wrong. :)
I've got no problem writing viruses as most of you know, but as I've
told you countless times, I do write other software too.
I suppose the bottom line is this. I've written a campaign editor for
rainbow six, so far it's the only one to exist, it'll always be the
first one (if you know of another, i'd love to hear about it). If you
wish to use it and take advantage of what it offers you, great. If
instead you'd rather be scared of it because of unrelated software i've
written, your loss.
I'm not making any money or anything off the program, I did it as a
freebie to the gamers amongst you. If you'd rather I not continue the
project and resume virus writing, I'd be happy to honor that request as
well.
Raid Slam
<P...@Ultimatechaos.org> wrote:
> Heya RaiD ,
> it ok to post on my page as well?? (with full
> props of course)
Sure man have at it.
David M. Chess
>Remember some time back (since you are a
>regular here) when I said I'd do what I said? Well, that goes both
>ways.
What about when you said, not all that long ago, that you
basically hate everyone but your cat, and that as long as
you lived, you would continue to cause harm to others?
Should we keep those statements in mind, also, when we
think about whether or not to download and use a program
of yours?
Or have you reconsidered those positions, and decided to
rejoin the *functional* part of the human race? I'd love
to hear that you have! *8)
DC
Anthony Simek
If you ever truly got that good at writing viruses you would have been
behind bars. Equally so, if you were truly that good at authoring ANYTHING,
you would be making money from it. In any event, you do serve up some
amusement here.
Thanks,
Tony
"Raid Slam" <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:023a5bf4...@usw-ex0107-042.remarq.com...
> Hello.
>
> I realize this post might be considered off-topic for this area. But,
> I'm posting it anyway.
>
> I've completed version 1.2 of the program known as RsHack. A campaign
> (apparently the only one to exist) editor for tom clancy's rainbow six
> rogue spear pc game. The program is released as freeware, and is no
> longer in beta testing. It has several features all easily selectable
> from a mini GUI single keypress interface. The program contains no
> viruses or trojans or RAT utilities. And it will not attempt to steal
> nor collect any information about you or the software stored on your PC.
>
> If you'd like to try out the program, or just want more information on
> the program, you can visit http://www.coderz.net/Raid/rshack.htm Any
> questions regarding the program will be answered as soon as possible.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
Yytrium
fool, than to open it, and prove them right. Thanks for proving us
right.
--
"The classroom is the last room to hear the truth."
-
Zack De La Rocha,
Rage Against the Machine
enztec
enztec
Yytrium
Anthony Simek
unrecognized. Well, you have given me something new to think about, and you
may be right.
"enztec" <enz...@berkshire.rr.com> wrote in message
news:38782E64...@berkshire.rr.com...
Anthony Simek
Let me have my fun, the guys last name is slam after all....
"Yytrium" <yytrium[rem@ove]satx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:01bf5a4c$78e437e0$1efd1a18@yytrium...
> It is better to keep your mouth shut, and let everyone think you are a
> fool, than to open it, and prove them right. Thanks for proving us
> right.
>
>
>
Tetractys
> edgar allan poe didn't make much $$$
He also died of alcoholic stomach disease
face down in a gutter. I'd take the $$$.
Dalton
behind bars. Equally so, if you were truly that good at authoring ANYTHING,
you would be making money from it. In any event, you do serve up some
amusement here.<<<<<
May I be so bold as to offer my comment here,
Firstly,If a virus makes the wild list and causes to type of infections that
some of RaiDs creations have then it can surley be regarded as a "well
written one" ie:It does exactly what it was intended to do..INFECT..
Second point :Ive seen some of RaiDs other work and can assure you that its
well written and functions far better than some bloatware that user happily
pay for..
finally :what gives you the idea that RaiD does not make money from his
other programming projects??
Regards Dalt
Dalton
Once again Tony may I correct you...SlaM is a Virus writers team..not a
persons name..=]
Dalton
enztec
than dying in a gutter
Raid Slam
<5AFAA9775F53E7A0.53709040...@lp.airnews.net>,
TINLC#15...@utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) wrote:
> Hahaha....somehow I doubt any opinion I express about your virus
> writing activities would either cause you to stop or resume that
> activity.
I find it truely disheartening to see the results I've gotten from this
newsgroup regarding a non-viral application.
On one hand, you bitch and piss and moan that we shouldn't write
viruses. Occasionally when we develop something that isn't a virus,
we're given the 3rd degree anyway. This said, Why bother complaining
that we should write other things, if your just going to piss and moan
when we do?
> As for the program you've written, the extent of my "gaming" is
> Minesweeper, Freecell and a few other simple things. I don't even
> know what rainbow six is, nor do I care to find out. Don't use
Rainbow six is a military combat sim type game, based off of the Books
written by Tom Clancy.
Raid Slam
Chess) wrote:
> What about when you said, not all that long ago, that you
> basically hate everyone but your cat, and that as long as
> you lived, you would continue to cause harm to others?
And I meant those words. Still do. Most of you aren't worth a fuck to
anybody, I just like to make sure you know this. :)
I fully intend to cause some more harm, but not with a non-viral
application. I have virus writing that serves for harm. I was thinking
of finishing the irok virus. Well, I am going to finish that one. I've
already promised that to someone.
Most people really aren't too offly bright, so whats the harm if I
exploit them for what they are? Useless imbreeds.
> Should we keep those statements in mind, also, when we
> think about whether or not to download and use a program
> of yours?
If you'll notice David, Every virus i've released on my site is clearly
marked as a virus. No misleading whatsoever. The rshack program is not
marked as a virus. So what makes you think it IS viral? And besides,
it's against coderz.net policy to host virus binaries of any kind.
> Or have you reconsidered those positions, and decided to
> rejoin the *functional* part of the human race? I'd love
> to hear that you have! *8)
> DC
The functional part of the human race? Ah shit man, don't make me puke.
Raid Slam
<dislik...@uswest.net> wrote:
> Raid,
> If you ever truly got that good at writing viruses you would have
> been behind bars.
Ehhh.. Your logic is lacking.
If your "good" at something, You don't serve jail time for doing it.
> Equally so, if you were truly that good at authoring ANYTHING,
> you would be making money from it.
Poor logic. What makes you think I don't make money from authoring
software? Oops, insert foot, and swallow eh Anthony? :)
The rshack program wasn't intended to "make money" it was intended as a
project. My viruses aren't intended to make money, but some of them
have paid off quiet nicely. The other applications I've written do make
money. I still collect royalities from one of them.
Tell me something Tony, does crow taste good?
Raid Slam
<dislik...@uswest.net> wrote:
> Hmm, good point. Sometimes there are execeptionally talented
> people who go unrecognized.
I'm hardly unrecognized. Hmm, So tony, does crow taste better with
ketchup or mustard? :)
> Well, you have given me something new to think
> about, and you may be right.
I won't hold my breath on your ability to think cognitively.
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
> "enztec" <enz...@berkshire.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:38782E64...@berkshire.rr.com...
> > edgar allan poe didn't make much $$$
> >
> > Anthony Simek wrote:
> > >
> > > Raid,
> > >
> > > If you ever truly got that good at writing viruses you would
> have been
> > > behind bars. Equally so, if you were truly that good at
> authoring
> ANYTHING,
> > > you would be making money from it. In any event, you do serve
> up some
> > > amusement here.
> > >
Raid Slam
Erm, No. My name is Raid (it's actually not my real name, but a handle)
the group I'm with is named SLAM.
Tony, a word of advice.
quit before the idiot pool swallows you as a member :)
Yytrium
Oh please, yourself. He never even addressed that, you idiot.
> And this surprises you? It's human nature to be wary of someone who
> has proven they have evil intentions toward oneself. Once your first
> successful virus infected a machine somewhere, you should not be the
> least bit surprised to find people treating you with great caution.
It's the most ignorant people who use this to somehow excuse
themselves. It's also no surprise hearing this from such an
unintelligent person. Had we all based our lives around basic human
instinct, we'd still be picking fleas out of each others hair and
throwing dung at passing lions.
Get a clue.
Raid Slam
<41D5F900737C7597.92CE8931...@lp.airnews.net>,
TINLC#15...@utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) wrote:
> Oh please. I doubt anything anyone here says has an effect on you.
Ahh, Your a bit over religious Paul. You don't know what I'm thinking
at any given point. Some things said here do get in the way of decision
making. Usually when it concerns a new viral method, a payload or
something.
> And this surprises you? It's human nature to be wary of someone
> who has proven they have evil intentions toward oneself.
Yes it surprises me. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You want
me and those like me to quit writing viruses and other malware don't
you? Then I'd suggest when we write something that doesn't qualify as
malicious, you don't bitch about it. Real simple concept.
Myself personally, I have no intention of quitting the VX scene anytime
soon. The rshack project is pretty much completed, and it's provided me
with interesting insights. One of those being, that no matter what I
write, it'll be called into question. The second, their is no benefit
whatsoever to stop writing viruses. Your damned if you do, and your
damned if you don't. Since your fucked both ways, you might as well
continue coding.
> Once your first successful virus infected a machine somewhere, you >
should not be the least bit surprised to find people treating you with
> great caution.
Caution is a good thing. Didn't have to be this way. But, certain
people annoyed me enough where I decided (selfish of me ain't it) that
many people should pay. Hey, I like playing god. heh And with
programming skills in this day and age, you CAN play god. :)
The difference being, I'm not quiet the asshole that religious fundies
are.
> Furthermore, this is an inappropriate group to announce the
> release of a gaming software package anyway.
It's not a gaming package. It's a campaign editor. Big difference. And
while it is off-topic, I'm not doing anything most of the antivirus
companies don't do. Advertising. Only, I'm being obvious about it. :)
> What reaction did you expect to get
> from people who are well aware of your other activities?
Your "well aware" of one other activity, which doesn't hold any regard
with me.
Yytrium
kurt wismer
> In article
> <5AFAA9775F53E7A0.53709040...@lp.airnews.net>,
> TINLC#15...@utdallas.edu (Paul Schmehl) wrote:
>
> > Hahaha....somehow I doubt any opinion I express about your virus
> > writing activities would either cause you to stop or resume that
> > activity.
>
> I find it truely disheartening to see the results I've gotten from this
> newsgroup regarding a non-viral application.
you've sewn the seeds of distrust, you can't undo that overnight...
i do think you can undo it though...
> On one hand, you bitch and piss and moan that we shouldn't write
> viruses. Occasionally when we develop something that isn't a virus,
> we're given the 3rd degree anyway.
some people just need an excuse to complain... i was glad to hear you
were working on something non-viral...
--
"when i ran i didn't feel like a runaway
when i escaped i didn't feel like i got away
there's more to living than only surviving
maybe i'm not there, but i'm still trying"
kurt wismer
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:13:33 -0800, Raid Slam
> <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> felt it essential to add to the
> discussion:
>
> [snip]
> >
> >I find it truely disheartening to see the results I've gotten from this
> >newsgroup regarding a non-viral application.
>
> Oh please. I doubt anything anyone here says has an effect on you.
yeah, right... you don't get to be as spiteful as raid has been by having
a thick skin...
kurt wismer
[snip]
> The rshack program wasn't intended to "make money" it was intended as a
> project.
and it seems to be an exercise in altruism... you're giving away effort,
and it's supposedly valuable (i can't attest to any real value since i
can't use it) results for free... that's a good thing...
Raid Slam
wismer <g9k...@cdf.toronto.edu> wrote:
> and it seems to be an exercise in altruism... you're giving away
> effort, and it's supposedly valuable (i can't attest to any real value
> since i can't use it) results for free... that's a good thing...
I'm not familiar with the word altruism. Yes, the RsHack program is
entirely free, and I fully intend to keep it that way, since I'm not
going to be putting my real name on it. ;p
I'd like to thank those of you who did try out the program and
contacted me concerning it. Those of you who have an axe to grind, or
are in this case.. overly paranoid, It's alright. You've provided me
with a good insight to how people are. As ungrateful as most are.
In fact, You've proven to me what assholes the majority of people are,
and why there is a need to remove the contents of their hard disks, for
the benefit of those of us who should be on pcs.
The RsHack program was never intended to cause anyone harm, yet some of
you tried to whitewash it as being something bad. This doesn't sit well
with me. And as a result, The rshack project probably will not be
updated in the future. RsHack was a test to see if my programs
(non-viral) would be accepted. While some of you didn't seem to have a
problem, others have voiced that they do indeed have a problem. Well,
your right. In a few weeks, IrOk (which is based off of Toadie) is
going to be completed. And I am going to lose it into the wild, on
purpose. YOu can quote me on that one this time Graham.
Irok will have a nice pleasant thank you note, which will give you
something to think about while your hunting for your backup tapes.
I had originally planned to stop writing viruses, and concentrate on
other things. This plan has changed as a result of the data I've
collected from the rshack project. People are not grateful for
anything, and they deserve nothing but a good fucking over.
I use the term people very loosly. Some of you are fine individuals,
but the rest of you aren't grateful for anything. All you seem to do is
bitch and moan.
RsHack is a fine program totally free, and completely harmless to your
computer. I've kept my part of the deal, I stopped writing for awhile
to see what would happen. What happened was what I had expected. Virus
writing is indeed something which more people should get into. Theres
too many people on this planet in need of a good ass beating, and I'm
but one author.
Anon
d00d do yourself a favor and put a bullet in your brain you
big cry baby AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
[...sniped a whole lot of mushy faggy shite...]
>Regards,
>Raid [SLAM]
Randy Abrams
Raid Slam <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
<snip>
> I'd like to thank those of you who did try out the program and
> contacted me concerning it. Those of you who have an axe to grind, or
> are in this case.. overly paranoid, It's alright. You've provided me
> with a good insight to how people are. As ungrateful as most are.
Let's see, you take an exceptionally small (statistically insignificant)
sample of the population and feel that you have been provided with an
insight to how people are? You are so exceptionally gullible Raid.
>
> In fact, You've proven to me what assholes the majority of people are,
> and why there is a need to remove the contents of their hard disks, for
> the benefit of those of us who should be on pcs.
Here you. Here's a bold faced lie for you. Since you can't tell where your
virus will end up after it leaves your PC, you can't target the ones that
only belong to the people who "should be on PCs". Of course no one proved
the above to you, it's just a cop out because you lack the spine to stick to
anything challenging, like quitting virus writing. What you really meant
above was that since you can't get even with the AV industry, it will be
your pleasure to attack the Make-a-wish foundation. I heard one of their
offices was hit with a virus recently. Hmm, interfering with an organization
that provides a little pleasure for a terminally ill kid. What a lofty goal
you have Raid.
> The RsHack program was never intended to cause anyone harm, yet some of
> you tried to whitewash it as being something bad. This doesn't sit well
> with me. And as a result, The rshack project probably will not be
> updated in the future. RsHack was a test to see if my programs
> (non-viral) would be accepted. While some of you didn't seem to have a
What a ridiculous test.Let's go out and prove we shouldn't be trusted, then
see if people will trust us because we say they should, rather than
demonstrating we should. A test?
> problem, others have voiced that they do indeed have a problem. Well,
> your right. In a few weeks, IrOk (which is based off of Toadie) is
> going to be completed. And I am going to lose it into the wild, on
> purpose. YOu can quote me on that one this time Graham.
Watch out Make-a-wish, Raid wants to interfere with you taking a dying child
to Disneyland. Maybe if you take Raid to Disneyland he'll decide people are
good?
> Irok will have a nice pleasant thank you note, which will give you
> something to think about while your hunting for your backup tapes.
>
> I had originally planned to stop writing viruses, and concentrate on
> other things. This plan has changed as a result of the data I've
> collected from the rshack project. People are not grateful for
> anything, and they deserve nothing but a good fucking over.
Yeah, and I had planned on getting Bill's job. Ha, you no more planned on
stopping the virus writing than you planned on revealing your identity.
Constructing little tests like the one above prove your real lack of
planning and commitment. You can't stick to anything that is challenging,
you are the ultimate quitter. When the going gets rough, Raid lights up.
> I use the term people very loosly. Some of you are fine individuals,
> but the rest of you aren't grateful for anything. All you seem to do is
> bitch and moan.
and this would be.... ummm.... do I hear a vote for bitching and moaning???
Let's tally the audiences votes. The audience agrees with Raid as he has
proven to be the expert in this field. If Raid doesn't know bitching and
moaning who does???
> RsHack is a fine program totally free, and completely harmless to your
> computer. I've kept my part of the deal, I stopped writing for awhile
> to see what would happen. What happened was what I had expected. Virus
> writing is indeed something which more people should get into. Theres
> too many people on this planet in need of a good ass beating, and I'm
> but one author.
Many would say you could have left the word author off, but no matter :) So
you're back to the blame the rest of the world for your actions lines. How
mature.
I've quit smoking longer than you've quit writing viruses. You're a weak
little man Raid. No number of attacks on the Make-a-wish foundation will
make you otherwise.
Regards,
Randy
--
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of the Microsoft Corporation.
Dalton
> contacted me concerning it. Those of you who have an axe to grind, or
> are in this case.. overly paranoid, It's alright. You've provided me
> with a good insight to how people are. As ungrateful as most are.<<<<<<<
RaiD,
Dont do it my friend...your better than that...you release Ir0k they
win...dont let them win...anyways i need stuff to stock up my freeware
page..=]
speak soon Dalt
David M. Chess
>If you'll notice David, Every virus i've released on my site is clearly
>marked as a virus. No misleading whatsoever. The rshack program is not
>marked as a virus. So what makes you think it IS viral? And besides,
>it's against coderz.net policy to host virus binaries of any kind.
I don't have any reason to think it's viral, but I also have no
reason to think it's not. You've shown, by both your statements
and your actions, that you intend harm to the world in general;
why should anyone trust anything that comes from you? Maybe
you've decided to use a new channel to cause harm today. Maybe
you've decided that you hate coderz.net, and will not respect
their policies. How are we to tell?
If you were to say that you've had second thoughts about damaging
the world, and show through your actions that you no longer wish
to harm people, people might start to have reason to trust you
again. But until you do that, you can't be *too* surprised when
people are somewhat reluctant to accept your "generosity". It
would, wouldn't it, be sort of stupid to believe someone who
says "usually I want to hurt as many people as possible, and
I think most people deserve to suffer, but this particular
action of mine isn't intended to do that, so trust me this
time"? C'mon: you'd call anyone who believed that a sucker,
wouldn't you?
It's great if you're starting to reach out in non-harmful ways
to people! But you can't expect it to happen instantly. You're
pretty far beyond the pale; I'm afraid it's going to take more
than releasing one non-viral program to win people's trust again.
>> Or have you reconsidered those positions, and decided to
>> rejoin the *functional* part of the human race? I'd love
>> to hear that you have! *8)
>> DC
>
>The functional part of the human race? Ah shit man, don't make me puke.
Yeah, the functional part of the human race. Lots of us are doing
very well, thank you, getting along at reasonable levels of trust
and benevolence, trying to make things better. We mostly get
along quite well! You could join us, you know. Just stop
writing malicious code (don't just claim after the fact that
you were going to stop but changed your mind), start trying to
help some of the people your viruses have damaged, start rejoining
the world again. It won't happen instantly, but I think it's
well within your abilities to reform. You could do a lot of good,
and have a lot more fun...
DC
AkHibby
>
> In fact, You've proven to me what assholes the majority of people are,
> and why there is a need to remove the contents of their hard disks, for
> the benefit of those of us who should be on pcs.
>
> The RsHack program was never intended to cause anyone harm, yet some of
> you tried to whitewash it as being something bad. This doesn't sit well
> with me. And as a result, The rshack project probably will not be
> updated in the future. RsHack was a test to see if my programs
> (non-viral) would be accepted. While some of you didn't seem to have a
> problem, others have voiced that they do indeed have a problem. Well,
> your right. In a few weeks, IrOk (which is based off of Toadie) is
> going to be completed. And I am going to lose it into the wild, on
> purpose. YOu can quote me on that one this time Graham.
>
> Irok will have a nice pleasant thank you note, which will give you
> something to think about while your hunting for your backup tapes.
>
> I had originally planned to stop writing viruses, and concentrate on
> other things. This plan has changed as a result of the data I've
> collected from the rshack project. People are not grateful for
> anything, and they deserve nothing but a good fucking over.
>
<snipped>
RAID, you see what you want to see, I'm not trying to piss you off but when
you release code under your psuedonim (SIC?) which is known for TOADIE etc
then people would have to be idiotic (I agee many are) to blindly download
and run it. Try creating a new persona & post anon under that and see if
you get a different reaction.
I probably would have tried it but I seldom game. What was the concept
behind IrOk again? I remember you described it a couple of months ago but
can't recall.
Ian
Rick Braddam
haven't downloaded your campaign editor it that I don't have the game.
With the time I spend reading virus, PGP,and crypto newsgroups, I don't
have time to play games. I have friends who do, though, and I'd be proud
to make your program available to my friends from my download page. If
that's OK with you, please email the link to me and I'll go get it.
Thank you, and best regards,
Rick
Dr Costas Giannakenas MD <an...@anon.net> wrote in message
news:n9lu7sg7l1333vvp1...@4ax.com...
| On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:10:55 -0000, "Dalton" <P...@Ultimatechaos.org>
| wrote:
[snip RaiDs post]
| RaiD,
| > Dont do it my friend...your better than that...you release
Ir0k they
| >win...dont let them win...anyways i need stuff to stock up my
freeware
| >page..=]
| >
| >speak soon Dalt
| >
| Raid,
|
| For what it's worth... I second Dalton's opinion.
|
| Regards,
| Costas
Raid Slam
Another Jed stroking ? :)
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
www.coderz.net/Raid
Raid Slam
<ran...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Let's see, you take an exceptionally small (statistically
> insignificant) sample of the population and feel that you have been >
provided with an insight to how people are?
How some people are yes. Specifically the antivirus personal, and some
of the users who use the products they write.
Actually Randy, it's the same people who whine I shouldn't write
viruses. These same people whine and moan when I wrote something that
isn't viral. Put that in your pipe and smoke on it, wiseass.
> Here you. Here's a bold faced lie for you. Since you can't tell
> where your virus will end up after it leaves your PC, you can't
target > the ones that only belong to the people who "should be on
PCs". Of > course no one
Again with lieing randy? How can I be lieing with what I've said? No, I
cannot be lieing, because I haven't told a lie. Oops, semantics, don't
ya just fucking love em? Btw, how's your job future with the Doj and
all? :) I have no plans to even try to design a targetting system for a
virus. If it gets you, the president, graham, nai fuckwads, ah well.
It's doing it's job one way or the other. viruses aren't suitable for
targetted attacks, and you know this.. MANNNN <g>
> proved the above to you, it's just a cop out because you lack the >
spine to stick to anything challenging, like quitting virus writing.
I haven't written any viral material since august of last year. Any
more thoughtful comments you'd like to make?
> What you really meant above was that since you can't get even with
the > AV industry, it will be your pleasure to attack the Make-a-wish >
foundation.
I never did care much for your half assed comparisons. How would I get
even with the antivirus industry? Do you realize how many people I'd
have to con? I'd have to convice them that the world is going to end
with the next virus to be released, and con them into paying 49.95 for
a deluxe #1 antivirus scanner, that'll protect you from everything*.
I just don't have it in me to lie so. Perhaps that's fine for you, but
it's not ok for me.
[Snipped your anal retentive comparison of myself harming a terminally
ill kid. On a personal note, I'd like 5 minutes alone in a room with
you, bitch.]
> have a What a ridiculous test.Let's go out and prove we shouldn't be
> trusted, then see if people will trust us because we say they should,
> rather than demonstrating we should. A test?
You are stupid, aren't you? It's ok. admit your an anal fuckwad, nobody
here will mind. You don't have to trust me randy, I've always been
straight with people here. My viruses have always been marked CLEARLY
as viruses, and the programs/utilities which aren't viruses, HAVE
ALWAYS BEEN MARKED, NON-VIRUS. That track record should fucking speak
for itself.
> Watch out Make-a-wish, Raid wants to interfere with you taking a
> dying child to Disneyland. Maybe if you take Raid to Disneyland he'll
> decide people are good?
Maybe if Randy got laid every so often, he wouldn't be the smartass
little bitch that he's become?
> stopping the virus writing than you planned on revealing your
> identity.
I have no plans to tell you or anyone else who I am, not now, not ever.
I have not written any virus material, nor consulting on the creation
of any since August of last year. You seem to think you know more about
me then you actually Do. I'd advise you not to make any more
ASSumptions in the future.
> Constructing little tests like the one above prove your real lack
> of planning and commitment.
How so?
> You can't stick to anything that is challenging, you are the ultimate
> quitter. When the going gets rough, Raid lights up.
Personal attacks.. I shouldn't have expected anything better from a
punkass bitch, now should I? Fuck you and the horse you road in on.
> Many would say you could have left the word author off, but no
> matter :)
And many would agree that Microsoft rights shitty applications, and
their employers generally are ignorant, etc etc etc. But no matter. :)
> I've quit smoking longer than you've quit writing viruses. You're
> a weak little man Raid.
Oh really? I stopped writing after toadie. How long ago did you quit
smoking?
> No number of attacks on the Make-a-wish
> foundation will make you otherwise.
And no matter how badly you want to get laid randy, No girl will ever
do you.
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
Randy Abrams
> In article <O6gFo4hX$GA.89@cpmsnbbsa04>, "Randy Abrams"
> <ran...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's see, you take an exceptionally small (statistically
> > insignificant) sample of the population and feel that you have been >
> provided with an insight to how people are?
>
> How some people are yes. Specifically the antivirus personal, and some
> of the users who use the products they write.
You really don't understand your stats at all. You get a small percentage of
anti-virus personnel here and a much smaller percentage of their users.
There are millions using AV software and I'd venture a guess that you see
the writings of much less than .001%. As I said you are dealing with a
statistically insignificant number and drawing conclusions based upon it.
> Actually Randy, it's the same people who whine I shouldn't write
> viruses. These same people whine and moan when I wrote something that
> isn't viral. Put that in your pipe and smoke on it, wiseass.
Poor Raid, if someone make a criticism of him it's "whining and moaning".
Perhaps you should read and think a bit. What you have been calling whining
and moaning are generally well thought out caveats.
> > Here you. Here's a bold faced lie for you. Since you can't tell
> > where your virus will end up after it leaves your PC, you can't
> target > the ones that only belong to the people who "should be on
> PCs". Of > course no one
>
> Again with lieing randy? How can I be lieing with what I've said? No, I
> cannot be lieing, because I haven't told a lie. Oops, semantics, don't
There's another lie. You've been caught all of the place telling lies. you
said you didn't delete messages, then you said you deleted duplicates. You
been caught in plenty of lies Raid.
> ya just fucking love em? Btw, how's your job future with the Doj and
> all? :)
Don't know, but from what the anaylists say my stock's going to triple :)
The only question is, if MS was separated, which part would I work for? I
don't think it's likely to happen though.
<snip>
> > proved the above to you, it's just a cop out because you lack the >
> spine to stick to anything challenging, like quitting virus writing.
>
> I haven't written any viral material since august of last year. Any
> more thoughtful comments you'd like to make?
>
Yeah, I've got to quit trusting what you say. You told us all that you were
working on a new virus. Not that you were going to begin work on one, but
that you were working on one. No semantics here, just your lies again.
>
> > What you really meant above was that since you can't get even with
> the > AV industry, it will be your pleasure to attack the Make-a-wish >
> foundation.
>
> I never did care much for your half assed comparisons.
No comparison. Read damn it, learn to read. At least one of the Make-a-wish
foundation offices was hit by a virus. You stated that you wanted your next
virus to be in the wild. I just showed a potential target that you are
obviously quite happy with risking. No comparison, no semantics, learn to
read.
<snip>
> here will mind. You don't have to trust me randy, I've always been
> straight with people here. My viruses have always been marked CLEARLY
Not hardly. Read on. You tell us you quit, you tell us you have been writing
a virus (since toadie).... You claim that you never said you were an OEM, I
proved you did, you are beginning to look psychopathic. You really don't
know that you are telling lies when you do, do you?
> as viruses, and the programs/utilities which aren't viruses, HAVE
> ALWAYS BEEN MARKED, NON-VIRUS. That track record should fucking speak
> for itself.
You web page and NFO say files are viruses, the viruses do not clearly say
they are viruses. You wanted to play semantics, put that in your pipe...
> > Watch out Make-a-wish, Raid wants to interfere with you taking a
> > dying child to Disneyland. Maybe if you take Raid to Disneyland he'll
> > decide people are good?
>
> Maybe if Randy got laid every so often, he wouldn't be the smartass
> little bitch that he's become?
Maybe if Raid could support his arguments he wouldn't have to leave the
subject for stupid innuendos that leave us with the impression I've been
arguing with someone who has the mental maturity of a 14 year old.
> > stopping the virus writing than you planned on revealing your
> > identity.
>
> I have no plans to tell you or anyone else who I am, not now, not ever.
> I have not written any virus material, nor consulting on the creation
> of any since August of last year. You seem to think you know more about
> me then you actually Do. I'd advise you not to make any more
> ASSumptions in the future.
Like assuming you told the truth when you said you were working on a virus.
What, another lie? I am sooo shocked.
<snip>
> > You can't stick to anything that is challenging, you are the ultimate
> > quitter. When the going gets rough, Raid lights up.
>
> Personal attacks.. I shouldn't have expected anything better from a
> punkass bitch, now should I? Fuck you and the horse you road in on.
No, that was an observation. You didn't get hugs from everyone you tried to
infect so you threw a tizzy and claimed you were going to complete a virus
you were writing that you later said you weren't writing, or something. Face
it. You weren't happy with not having the world trust that a person who says
he hates them all was being altrustic, so, it got tough and you said you
would go back to writing viruses.
<snip>
Regards,
Randy
--
Raid Slam
<ran...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> You really don't understand your stats at all.
*yawn*
> Poor Raid, if someone make a criticism of him it's "whining and
> moaning". Perhaps you should read and think a bit. What you have been
> calling whining and moaning are generally well thought out caveats.
Well thought out? Oh really? Well let me clue you in one something. If
rshack WAS a virus, don't you think somebody from some antivirus firm
would be jumping all over me by now? I'm sure by now, somebody
someplace has sent some antivirus researcher a copy or two. Unless your
going to say that it's possible to hide self replicating code from the
experts? (No, I didn't put anything funny inside rshack)
> said you didn't delete messages, then you said you deleted
> duplicates. You been caught in plenty of lies Raid.
I see where this has been going. It's a simple case of
misunderstanding. The media reports, and the claims I've read from a
few people here tend to lead the reader into thinking I deleted
originals to somehow cover my tracks. I've maintained that I didn't do
so, and I didn't. Copies are not originals, And the material is not in
any way affected by deleting them. Deleting copies cuts down on wasted
bandwidth, which is an asset to myself, you and everyone else. Now,
suck on it, asshole.
> The only question is, if MS was separated, which part would I work
> for? I don't think it's likely to happen though.
I'd be laughing my ass off if MS was split into tiny fragments. More
choice for the users that way.
> Yeah, I've got to quit trusting what you say. You told us all that
> you were working on a new virus.
Answer the question Randy, when did you stop smoking? I quit writing
viral material in august, I do have plans to continue working on irok I
stopped working on it in august to finish Toadie, does that CLARIFY for
you?
> Not that you were going to begin work on
> one, but that you were working on one. No semantics here, just your >
lies again.
Nah, Your MS business tactics are failing you. It's apparent a case of
miscommunication has occured, but I haven't lied to you or anybody else
with regard to when I stopped coding. Now, for the 4th time, when did
you quit smoking? :)
> No comparison. Read damn it, learn to read. At least one of the
> Make-a-wish foundation offices was hit by a virus.
Which has nothing to do with myself or my viruses. Hence an invalid
comparison, with innuendo comments intended to rile and piss me off.
> I just showed a potential target that you
> are obviously quite happy with risking. No comparison, no semantics,
> learn to read.
1st, get your head out of your ass.
2nd, I never said I was happy to risk infecting any company/corp known
as make-a-wish
3rd, Stop fucking ASSuming shit about people.
> Not hardly. Read on. You tell us you quit, you tell us you have
> been writing a virus (since toadie).... You claim that you never said
Nope, I said I was working on a virus, and planned to continue working
on it. I was developing Irok at the same time as Toadie, toadie got
finished, irok did not. Does this clarify the concept ?
> you were an OEM, I proved you did, you are beginning to look >
psychopathic. You really don't know that you are telling lies when you
> do, do you?
I am *not* an OEM, I don't own a business. I work for an OEM, one of
many thousands of them.
> You web page and NFO say files are viruses, the viruses do not
> clearly say they are viruses. You wanted to play semantics, put that
> in your pipe...
Toadie v1.0 initializing... OK!
Files in current directory have been infected, it is not recommended
that you execute any of them.
- Mighty good smoke, thanks Randy. :)
> Maybe if Raid could support his arguments he wouldn't have to
> leave the subject for stupid innuendos that leave us with the >
impression I've been arguing with someone who has the mental maturity >
of a 14 year old.
I don't seem to have trouble supporting my arguments. You tend to leave
little details out. Ie: the difference between an original message
being deleted, and a copy of it, with the original remaining.
> Like assuming you told the truth when you said you were working on
> a virus.
I was, at the time I was working on toadie.
Randy Abrams
> In article <uvzsopQY$GA.312@cpmsnbbsa03>, "Randy Abrams"
> <ran...@microsoft.com> wrote:
<snip>
> > Poor Raid, if someone make a criticism of him it's "whining and
> > moaning". Perhaps you should read and think a bit. What you have been
> > calling whining and moaning are generally well thought out caveats.
>
> rshack WAS a virus, don't you think somebody from some antivirus firm
> would be jumping all over me by now? I'm sure by now, somebody
> someplace has sent some antivirus researcher a copy or two. Unless your
> going to say that it's possible to hide self replicating code from the
> experts? (No, I didn't put anything funny inside rshack)
You are far to clueless to clue me in. I neither said nor implied that
rshack was viral, bad, malicious, or anything at all. The caveat I referred
to was that the program was written by a person who declares that he wants
to cause harm to people. The fact is that only a fool would think they could
write viruses for years, and then one day say "I quit" and have the trust of
the whole world. You might not have noticed that I made no comments
what-so-ever when you came out with your announcement about the campaign
editor. I didn't say "watch out world", I didn't say "maybe there's a
virus", nothing. I didn't even complain about the off-topic post. The fact
remains that regardless of quality or content, you would have to be a fool
to think that in one day, one week, or one month you would gain the trust of
those who know what you have been up to for years. You'd have to be a weak
little quitter to go back to writing viruses because those who know of your
activities don't trust you right now.
> > said you didn't delete messages, then you said you deleted
> > duplicates. You been caught in plenty of lies Raid.
>
> I see where this has been going. It's a simple case of
> misunderstanding. The media reports, and the claims I've read from a
> few people here tend to lead the reader into thinking I deleted
> originals to somehow cover my tracks. I've maintained that I didn't do
> so, and I didn't. Copies are not originals, And the material is not in
> any way affected by deleting them. Deleting copies cuts down on wasted
> bandwidth, which is an asset to myself, you and everyone else. Now,
> suck on it, asshole.
I don't buy your claims. You disappeared for a while right after the Melissa
caper and then several of your originals vanished as well. Coincidence? I
doubt it.
> > The only question is, if MS was separated, which part would I work
> > for? I don't think it's likely to happen though.
>
> I'd be laughing my ass off if MS was split into tiny fragments. More
> choice for the users that way.
I don't know if it would equal more choice for users. I do know that the
analysts keep saying it will be better for my stock if it happens. Hmmm,how
about a role playing game Raid? You are the Justice department. Do you leave
MS as is, or break it up and make Gates richer?
>
> > Yeah, I've got to quit trusting what you say. You told us all that
> > you were working on a new virus.
>
> Answer the question Randy, when did you stop smoking?
Did you see Austin Powers 2? Remember the scene where they had to ask the
guy the same question three consecutive times :)
> I quit writing
> viral material in august, I do have plans to continue working on irok I
> stopped working on it in august to finish Toadie, does that CLARIFY for
> you?
Hmm, you tell Mr. Chess that you are going to finish irok, you tell me you
have plans to. Nope, not clear. Is it definite, or just planned?
> > Not that you were going to begin work on
> > one, but that you were working on one. No semantics here, just your >
> lies again.
>
> Nah, Your MS business tactics are failing you.
Ahh, the marquis with the wording "Raid's out of intelligent comments". You
bring in MS. I speak for my self, I use my own tactics, you run out of
intellect and resort to that garbage, Mr. Microsoft OEM.
> It's apparent a case of
> miscommunication has occured, but I haven't lied to you or anybody else
> with regard to when I stopped coding.
You most certainly have. You tell me you've stopped coding, you tell Jed
you're finishing Storm Trouper and not retiring after all. What is it?
> Now, for the 4th time, when did
> you quit smoking? :)
No it only counts as one instance when it's in the same message :)
> > No comparison. Read damn it, learn to read. At least one of the
> > Make-a-wish foundation offices was hit by a virus.
>
> Which has nothing to do with myself or my viruses. Hence an invalid
> comparison, with innuendo comments intended to rile and piss me off.
No, actually this one wasn't to piss you off, it was an attempt to get you
to think for just a fraction of a second. EVERY virus you write and allow in
to the public domain has the potential to end up screwing up data at the
Make-A-Wish foundation. You said in one of your emails that you'd put a nice
little message in it right before it trashes the hard drive. This is a no
brainer, you either have no problems deliberately placing code that is
designed to be destructive in a place where it can easily be used to target
Make-a-Wish, or you don't do it. There's no comparison, there's no piss off
factor intended, it's only pointing out the fact that if your not happy with
you code screwing with charitable organizations, then do something about it.
Of course if the prospect pleases you then leave it as is. It doesn't matter
who pisses you off, or how much, you still are the one calling the shots
with what you choose to do with your code and whether or not the potential
results of your actions are worth performing the actions. If you think that
trashing hard drives at Make-A-Wish is an acceptable risk, then you'll
finish your Storm Trouper, irok, or whatever and make it so. If it's not an
acceptable risk, you know how to prove it.
<snip
> 3rd, Stop fucking ASSuming shit about people.
Hmmm when you wrote the following...
"On a personal note, I'd like 5 minutes alone in a room with you, bitch"
I ASSumed you meant you wanted to harm me. I see now that I shouldn't assume
that and I must tell you thank you, but I'm happily married and won't
require your services.
<snip>
>
> > You web page and NFO say files are viruses, the viruses do not
> > clearly say they are viruses. You wanted to play semantics, put that
> > in your pipe...
>
> Toadie v1.0 initializing... OK!
> Files in current directory have been infected, it is not recommended
> that you execute any of them.
Ahem...details. You said ", Every virus i've released on my site is clearly
marked as a virus". This is but one virus. Even at that it is only clear
after it has infected a person.
> - Mighty good smoke, thanks Randy. :)
Certainly. After we normalize relations with Cuba, might I offer you a
Havana?
Oct. 1,1999. If you truly quit writing viruses, despite all the words you've
said about continuing, then I was wrong, you've quit longer than I have quit
smoking. It's a pretty safe bet that I'll be more successful in my quitting
than you are in yours. You're to easy to get riled. once that happens you
lose your control and you'll be writing viruses to wage an anonymous attack
against those you don't know to get even with someone you won't affect. What
a battle plan.
Raid Slam
<ran...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> You are far to clueless to clue me in. I neither said nor implied
> that rshack was viral, bad, malicious, or anything at all.
Personal attack ignored. Rshack comment acknowledged.
> The caveat I referred to was that the program was written by a person
> who declares that he wants to cause harm to people.
Fair enough. However, Writing viruses isn't all I program. I've written
other things too. I just felt like sharing rshack. and to be honest, I
was impressed that I had written the first campaign editor for a game
that people actually enjoy playing.
> The fact is that only a fool would think
> they could write viruses for years, and then one day say "I quit" and
> have the trust of the whole world.
Careful now. I haven't said "I quit". I've just stopped.. for now.
And while I have been writing viruses for years (shrug, time flies)
I've also been writing other legit applications as well. I don't know
if I'm going to continue coding viruses in the future or not. It
depends on my schedule.
> The fact remains that regardless of quality or content, you would
have > to be a fool to think that in one day, one week, or one month
you > would gain the trust of those who know what you have been up to
for > years.
You make it sound as If I've done some very bad/cruel things, and I
haven't. I've only written some software which some (not all) consider
to be bad. the software being computer viruses of course. It's not
trust i'm concerned with. if you trust what I say, fine. if not, I'm
not really going to lose any sleep over it. Unless, I consider your
opinion valuable, then I'll go out of my way to prove what I've said
isn't bs.
I've been upto many things in years time Randy, virus writing is but a
small part of my life.
> You'd have to be a weak little quitter to go back to writing viruses
> because those who know of your activities don't trust you right now.
As I said before, I can't go back to something I haven't officially
quit doing. I've just taken some time off. Since august of last year.
If and when I resume writing viral material doesn't mean I'm weak nor a
quitter, as I've only taken a break from them.
> I don't buy your claims. You disappeared for a while right after
> the Melissa caper and then several of your originals vanished as well.
> Coincidence? I doubt it.
You don't have to buy my "claims". I know first hand where I was during
the melissa bs, and I know first hand more about what happened with
that then you do, considering I at the time hosted codebreakers.org,
and it was one of my servers that got taken by the fbi.None of my
original messages has ever "vanished" far as I can tell. I've told you
once, and I'll tell you one last time, I do not know how to delete
messages from dejanews.com. I deleted copies from my news client at the
time. But I haven't used a newsclient in months, I've been using
remarq, and I don't know how, nor care to learn how to delete messages
from it either.
Suffice to say, I had moved out of state shortly after Melissa anyways
randy, so much for your "vanishing" act, eh smartass?
> I don't know if it would equal more choice for users. I do know
> that the analysts keep saying it will be better for my stock if it >
happens.
Sure it would equal more choice. How can microsofts stock go up, if
they aren't selling winshit anymore? Do you realize how many people
were in one way or another fucked over by the creation of win95 series?
win98 should have been given away for free, to make up for the lost
time with win95 problems.
> Hmmm,how about a role playing game Raid? You are the Justice >
department. Do you leave MS as is, or break it up and make Gates >
richer?
I'd break MS up, and tax the livid shit out of bill gates. I'd then
overturn the blanket software disclaimers, and allow users who have
lost time/wages due to windows related system failures to sue for
damages. I'd make an example out of MS.
> Did you see Austin Powers 2? Remember the scene where they had to
> ask the guy the same question three consecutive times :)
I've got a fairly large asf movie collection. :) I've seen the first 20
seconds of austin powers 2, and then it got deleted. The movie was just
too damn corny for me.
> Hmm, you tell Mr. Chess that you are going to finish irok, you
> tell me you have plans to. Nope, not clear. Is it definite, or just >
planned?
plans to finish irok, yes. It is currently planned, as are a few other
things that I might/might not finish. One of those does include storm
trooper. But, Vecna 29a beat me to the punch with upgrading technology.
> Ahh, the marquis with the wording "Raid's out of intelligent
> comments". You bring in MS. I speak for my self, I use my own
tactics, > you run out of intellect and resort to that garbage, Mr.
Microsoft
Hey, I sold a fellow a copy of win2000 pro (I have advanced server too,
and they aren't the RC series. :)) to a friend of mine for $30. OEM at
work, that's all fine, on my own time, I wouldn't pay for ms software
if it was the only software on earth. And the oem I work for doesn't
have win2000, I got it from a leak at ms. In fact, it's the same build
that's on it's way (or already is) being mastered on cdroms for sale
now. Due out in feburary isn't it? Build 2165 I think it is.
win2000 is interesting, and free. :)
> You most certainly have. You tell me you've stopped coding, you
> tell Jed you're finishing Storm Trouper and not retiring after all.
I told you that I haven't written viral material nor consulted on the
creation of it since August of last year, and that's true. However, I
have not told you that I've stopped coding for good. I'm taking a
break. I might resume coding viruses, I might not. It depends on a
number of things. I picked up an older assembler book, so I have to
admit, my interest in viruses has increased.
> No, actually this one wasn't to piss you off, it was an attempt to
> get you to think for just a fraction of a second. EVERY virus you >
write and allow in to the public domain has the potential to end up >
screwing up data at the Make-A-Wish foundation.
Are you admitting that my viruses are well enough written to do this?
Raid Slam
wrote:
> What was the concept behind IrOk again?
IRoK is based off of the toadie engine. Which supports mirc and pegasus
worm functions. The primary difference will be (If I ever get enough
time to resume working on it) destructive payloads of various degress,
and possibly 1st series ftp communication for later esponaige enabled
virus designs.
akh...@my-deja.com
Raid Slam <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <387f3...@news.gci.net>, "AkHibby" <ianb...@gci.net>
> wrote:
> > What was the concept behind IrOk again?
>
> IRoK is based off of the toadie engine. Which supports mirc and
pegasus
> worm functions. The primary difference will be (If I ever get enough
> time to resume working on it) destructive payloads of various degress,
> and possibly 1st series ftp communication for later esponaige enabled
> virus designs.
>
> Regards,
> Raid [SLAM]
>
Ian
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