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Futuro Elettronica S.R.L. AKA www.futuroelettronica.com Scam Internet Website for Electronic Goods Who Takes Your Money and RUNS!!! Rome Italy

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Erica...@gmail.com

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Apr 19, 2007, 1:08:31 PM4/19/07
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I'm just a stay home mom trying to start a homebased business on
ebay. The hottest products selling quick happen to be Playstation 3
(60GB) and Nintento Wii consoles. I've been searching the internet
for honest wholesalers and dropshippers to purchase products from.

I come across www.futuroelettronica.com (Futuro Elettronica S.R.L.) in
Italy. After taking the time to read all the information this
"company" had to offer (About us Page, Terms and Conditions Page,
Contact Us Page), I made the bad business decision of attempting to
use this fake company.

Their website is excellently built and portrayed. Asking you to
become a member with userid and password, showing a page that contains
your so-called Order along with Order history, asking you to subscribe
to their newsletter for future pricing or products...the whole nine
yards. They are even up front and said they only accept Western Union
Wire Transfers for payments at this time on their terms and conditions
page. I figured any company that tells you this up front must be
legit. I WAS WRONG.

I sent and email to the company stating my hesitance, getting a
personal reply that they've been in business for 30 years and haven't
disappointed a customer yet. I sent them 851.03 via Western Union
with an additional cost of 71.00 for the wiring fees. Never heard
from them again. I constantly emailed them for 4 days
straight...Nothing. I called the listed phone number...Nothing.

I decided to see if they would answer another potential "buyer",
ordering a product under a fake name and address, and asked a question
regarding payment from a different email acct. They actually
responded to my fake question.

I'll admit it, I'm an idiot. I didn't do the homework and was taken
advantage of because of my inexperience. I'm completely embarrassed
for being so gullible. I now have customers who have already paid and
are waiting on a product that will not come. I have to some how find
922.03 which I don't have to get their product or to at least refund
their money.

I'm going to attempt to post this on every Blog and message board out
there, hoping they don't do this to anyone every again. It saddens
and disappoints me that a person trying to make an honest living is
taken by such a person. Buyers beware...stay away from www.futuroelettronica.com!

John Doe

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Apr 19, 2007, 9:56:48 PM4/19/07
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Erica.Sabo gmail.com wrote:

> I sent and email to the company stating my hesitance, getting a
> personal reply that they've been in business for 30 years and
> haven't disappointed a customer yet. I sent them 851.03 via Western
> Union with an additional cost of 71.00 for the wiring fees. Never
> heard from them again. I constantly emailed them for 4 days
> straight...Nothing. I called the listed phone number...Nothing.
>
> I decided to see if they would answer another potential "buyer",
> ordering a product under a fake name and address, and asked a
> question regarding payment from a different email acct. They
> actually responded to my fake question.
>
> I'll admit it, I'm an idiot. I didn't do the homework and was taken
> advantage of because of my inexperience.

Posting off-topic (probably to many other groups also), I guess you
aren't familiar with USENET either. Otherwise, you could have asked
around before you sent $1000 to accompany you know nothing about from
sources other than their web site. This is the age of information
sharing, try it.

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> Subject: Futuro Elettronica S.R.L. AKA www.futuroelettronica.com Scam Internet Website for Electronic Goods Who Takes Your Money and RUNS!!! Rome Italy
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Paul

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Apr 20, 2007, 2:08:51 AM4/20/07
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Erica...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm just a stay home mom trying to start a homebased business on
> ebay. The hottest products selling quick happen to be Playstation 3
> (60GB) and Nintento Wii consoles. I've been searching the internet
> for honest wholesalers and dropshippers to purchase products from.
>
> I come across www.futuroelettronica.com (Futuro Elettronica S.R.L.) in
> Italy. ...

> They are even up front and said they only accept Western Union
> Wire Transfers for payments

That is a big mistake. If you use a credit card, you have some protection.
Wiring somebody money is an invitation to being ripped off. With a
credit card, you can file a dispute with the credit card company,
and get your money back. There is no protection with a wire transfer.

*Never* do business with a company requiring a wire transfer!

If I do a search in groups.google.com , the first mention of that
"futuroelettronica" company, is in April of this year. So much for
existing for 30 years. If they existed for 30 years, there would be
idle chatter about them, either good or bad.

http://groups.google.ca/groups/search?q=futuroelettronica

You should rethink your business plan. You seem to be taking
all the risks in this business of yours. And it won't be long
before a customer of yours, finds a way to rip you off. Better
to stop now, before your losses mount up.

And chances are, that business is not in Italy.

Paul

mma...@optonline.net

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Apr 20, 2007, 6:41:33 PM4/20/07
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Here is John Doe's expertise (via roller blading):

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.skating.inline/browse_thread/thread/f202e71cf730b2b6/06c0d24518bfb623?hl=en#06c0d24518bfb623

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.skating.inline/browse_thread/thread/e3e21d46f356d406/13b2b48611665606?hl=en#13b2b48611665606

At:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt/browse_thread/thread/d59e8a2648c7a337/02074b31651a4afe?hl=en#02074b31651a4afe


John Doe wrote:
"This is the age of information sharing, try it."

What is the old saying, "People who live in glass houses shouldn't
throw stones."

This is a good one where John Doe is providing pure SPAM when he says,
"Visit
http://youbanking.com::
http://groups.google.com/group/free.spam/browse_thread/thread/a18d3d69b7933f00/e59e3d1af6f81ab5?hl=en#e59e3d1af6f81ab5

Another SPAM generated by the pot calling the kettle black. See:
http://groups.google.com/group/free.spam/browse_thread/thread/4de7f3a0f26e26b/71ad733e9cb324e1?lnk=st&q=&rnum=7&hl=en#71ad733e9cb324e1
Where Doe boy says, "search all the books you like using their ISBN
NUMBER-check out this its really genuine"

>From Non Spammer,
Martin Markoe

John Doe

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Apr 20, 2007, 10:30:49 PM4/20/07
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The malicious misfit Martin Markoe's only USENET activity is spamming
the speech users group, filling the archives with his advertising, and
driving other regular authors away.

If you deal with the spammer, check a price comparison web site before
you get ripped off.

Following are a few quotes from others directed to the chronic liar
and malicious troll Martin Markoe. They help illustrate the annoyance
and frustration that unrestrained advertising causes for real users
looking for help on unmoderated USENET groups.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/3becc9fa6c340ffc?

You are not a technologist. You sell microphones.

Marty, how come whenever someone disagrees with you, you get into this
high school urinating contest mode? Actually I can't find your
credentials anywhere either, except as a guy selling something.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/473a2b3f9dd6a0f0?

Man you really are full of yourself! Just leave me alone. I asked you
a question. Silly me, I wanted to know what I was buying before I
bought it. How absurd! I then get email after email after email from
you telling me that you won't answer my question and trying to justify
it. Lets cut the crap. You won't answer my question. I won't buy from
you. So now go away and let me get USEFUL information from someone who
will be honest with me instead of evasive, devisive and insulting!

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/d256b8b7563712e9?

More importantly I am not here touting my business. A position which
makes anything you say suspect, doesn't it.

I have been watching this group for a long time and you have managed
to turn it into the eMicrophones, Inc. mail list. Almost no one with
expertise posts here any longer.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/6014c0e38032578f?

Is anyone else beyond annoyed with the two pathetically desperate
"small business owners" that have driven this group into the ground?

I subscribed 6 months ago hoping to learn something about the
"state-of-the-art" in voice recognition from the user's perspective.

All I've managed to learn is that most users are apparently being
ripped off by over-charging slimy weaseloid microphone hawkers.

Martin Markoe and Mr. "speaktoyourpc.com", I beg you to consider the
number of potential customers you're pissing off before you further
demonstrate your witlessness by posting again. Your childish
King-of-the-Group games should've stopped a loooong time ago.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/3b57c2d47a1d5994?

Well said...Refreshing.

[That in response to the prior message.]

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/ce73180162c1d199?

... dealing with you on the newsgroups is not an easy thing and most
always turns into some type of flaming war.

... you do get into fights with many regarding microphones and you do
wave your website around more often than necessary and you don't
always tell the truth about competitive products.

I didn't respond because I simply did not want to get into another
fight which is the reason my posts have been very light in the last
few months.

Here are my qualifications. Certified and trained for Philips
SpeechMagic, IBM ViaVoice, IBM Medspeak, Kurzweil VoiceMed, Dragon
NaturallySpeaking Enterprise & L&H VoiceXpress... So please, don't
call me a "Charlatan" because it is simply not true.

And believe me when I tell you that some users actually get better
recognition from $20 headsets than with $100 headsets.

I see vendors posting all the time and as long as you are not a member
of the newsgroup, there aren't constant one-up battles.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/ba6cc5fd879272fd?

After getting caught with his pants down regarding his so called
privacy policy, Martin continues to make a complete ass out of
himself.

With this pattern of behaviour, the next step is usually
stalking--email stalking (... to menacingly spread deceit)

[Coincidentally, Martin Markoe did exactly that recently.]

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/84f362b69d93a460?

... you don't see the authors in all the newsgroups in a constant
battle. Only with you Marty.

You have left such a bad taste in my mouth about your constant
bickering...

I can't believe you are talking about spamming. I have seen posts from
you that link to as many as 8 direct links to your website (all in one
post) and your signatures fall within 5 or 10 lines long. In my book,
that's called SPAMMING.

... about 2 weeks ago, you claimed to have sold thousands of GN MPA
Satellites. I know for a fact that is not true.

This has become a game and if the flaming stops, perhaps we can get
this group active again.

Guess what Marty.... I have a life. I don't have time to live on the
newsgroups as you do.

This is the 2nd time you have mentioned me being moderated on user
groups. Last time, you apologized about confusing me with someone
else. YOU ARE OUT OF CONTROL MARTY MARKOE.

Marty, your constant abuse on these newsgroups... must come to an end.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.speech.users/msg/5585a5e972b1cc1c?

I give up. I've dealt with delusional people like you before, and it
leads to nowhere... you continue attacking people who are FAR more
experienced and qualified than you, not to mention professional...

See also:
"Martin Markoe" <martin emicrophones.com>
... <mmarkoe bestweb.net>
... <martin speechcontrol.com>
... <mmarkoe optonline.net>
"Michael Mendick" <michael emicrophones.com>


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> STFU

Go hug your imaginary kill file friend.

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