For Logitech MX1000 laser mouse owners
John Doe
I am mainly concerned about precision and physical ease of use. Is
it noticeably better than other mice you have owned? How much
better? Is picking up the mouse a problem? Do you have to pick up
the mouse less than with other mice?
And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?
Thank you.
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I am assuming you updated the drivers. In this thread, I am
inquiring about performance, not minor technical issues. System
issues come and go, and are very dependent on the user and his (or
her) computer.
Dave
jd...@usenet.love.invalid says...
> What is your experience with the Logitech MX 1000 laser mouse?
>
> I am mainly concerned about precision and physical ease of use. Is
> it noticeably better than other mice you have owned? How much
> better? Is picking up the mouse a problem? Do you have to pick up
> the mouse less than with other mice?
>
> And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?
>
> Thank you.
From the standpoint of ergonomics, tracking, and overall performance,
the MX1000 is the best mouse I have ever used. I like the shape, feel,
and weight compared to all others. I use one at work and at home. I
must add, however, that I do more mosuing at work than at home and
frequently discover that the battery is running low (red) after as
little as 4 days. I have to remember to put it in the charger before I
go home at night. The good news is that it recharges pretty past. I
can go off to a meeting for a couple hours and it will be nearly fully
recharged by the time I get back. As for "gaining" (er, gaming) I'm not
a gamer so cannot comment. For business graphics and such it is a great
mouse.
Dave
Chris Townsend
I used it less than a week and went back to my MX510 gaming mouse which is
superb for all uses, not just gaming. If you are looking for a gaming mouse
go with a 510 or the new 518 and live with a cord.
"John Doe" <jd...@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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Richard Dower
"John Doe" <jd...@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I am mainly concerned about precision and physical ease of use. Is
> it noticeably better than other mice you have owned? How much
> better? Is picking up the mouse a problem? Do you have to pick up
> the mouse less than with other mice?
>
> And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?
>
> Thank you.
Awesome, first class...best mouse ever, best i've ever used. Have the MX3100
desktop set with the latest 2.40 Setpoint software!!
BillL
"Richard Dower" <richar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Skipping in games is only a problem if you're somebody who lifts the mouse
to reposition it in use (I don't). I'd say if you want to go cordless in
games the MX1000 is the only way to go. Its certainly better than the MX700
and before that a MS cordless mouse that I've used in the past.
BillL
f r e e
no problems of any sort here, but its jsut a mouse like all the other
(quality) mouses ive owned.
my only complaint is that the wheel stands so far out of the body, my middel
finger hurts a bit after hours...
i dont use Logi's software, its crap
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F r e e
Hank the Rapper
> And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?
It's the first wireless mouse I've used and it's great. I have never had any
problems with it when I'm gaming. I can go one to two weeks between charges,
depending on how often I use it. Plus it has an internal battery so you
don't need to spend money with a supply of batteries.
Andrew
<fake...@comcast.net> wrote:
>The MX1000 sucks for gaming, lift it off the pad and it skips, I hate mine,
>I used it less than a week and went back to my MX510 gaming mouse which is
>superb for all uses, not just gaming. If you are looking for a gaming mouse
>go with a 510 or the new 518 and live with a cord.
Any halfway decent player has their mouse sensitivity up enough so
they never have to lift it. My mouse never moves more than about 3
inches in any direction.
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Shawk
"John Doe" <jd...@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I am mainly concerned about precision and physical ease of use. Is
> it noticeably better than other mice you have owned? How much
> better? Is picking up the mouse a problem? Do you have to pick up
> the mouse less than with other mice?
>
> And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
Still using and enjoying an old M$ Intellimouse Optical but I am looking at
the Logitech wireless keyboard *and* MX700 for £35 (the MX700 alone on the
same site is £41). Sounds like a good deal and I'm very tempted. The
MX1000 is £80-odd and I just dont see any mouse being worth that much money.
Jed
<sh...@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>The MX1000 is £80-odd and I just dont see any mouse being worth that much money.
Ouch. I got my MX1000 a couple of months ago for around US$55. Once
again you Brits are getting shafted on tech product prices.
The MX1000 is a good mouse, accurate, sensitive, and, best of all,
rechargeable with a handy charge indicator. No batteries to deal with
which is the feature I was looking for. It is not, however, worth
80GBP (~US$145.00).
The only negative I see is the size of the mouse. It's big, wider and
taller, and takes some getting used to after switching from a smaller
mouse.
Shawk
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Hands up - my apologies - I'm talking crap. Read your post and thought -
'did I write £80-odd'? Overclockers UK are doing it for £47. £6 more than
the MX700. I'll now go stand in a corner with my dunce hat on.....
spodosaurus
Very few places here in Aus have it for less than $87.10USD (+
shipping). We also get shafted on warranty on a range of products: we
only get Australian warranty if we buy from the Australian
subsidiary/distributor of the products. This allows Canon and Creative,
to name just two companies, to price gouge Australian consumers. Don't
even get me started on the crap 'region 4' DVDs available here that
generally don't compare at all with 'region 1' DVDs in terms of price
AND quality+features...assuming the movies/tv shows are even released in
'region 4'!!!
ARGH~!!~#!@%$#@%&
Ari
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Walter Mitty
> The MX1000 sucks for gaming, lift it off the pad and it skips, I hate mine,
> I used it less than a week and went back to my MX510 gaming mouse which is
> superb for all uses, not just gaming. If you are looking for a gaming mouse
> go with a 510 or the new 518 and live with a cord.
>
What do you expect if you lift your mouse like that. I've used a mx700
optical cordless for ages with no issues whatsoever : fast & reliable.
You seem to be confused netween wireless and optical. A cord would make
zero difference if it was an optical wired wired mouse.
f r e e
> If that's what you are talking about, yes, that's crap.
>
no! :-)
i mean drivers... a resource dog, with sporadic errors (latest version gave
me errors in BF2 when clikicking the wheel)
without its own drivers it just works sooo good:-)
NightSky 421
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> The MX1000 sucks for gaming, lift it off the pad and it skips, I hate
> mine, I used it less than a week and went back to my MX510 gaming mouse
> which is superb for all uses, not just gaming. If you are looking for a
> gaming mouse go with a 510 or the new 518 and live with a cord.
>
I've heard this complaint a number of times from users of the MX1000. You
should be able to lift an optical mouse off the surface off your mouse pad
without experiencing any difficulties, but a lot of users are not
experiencing as such with the MX1000. I've used a few optical mice in my
time (Logitech MouseMan Dual Optical & MX510, Microsoft Intellimouse
Explorer 4.0 & Wheel Mouse Optical) and am able to lift all of those mice
off the mouse pad momentarily without any difficulties or issues.
TomC...@cox.com
the MX1000. In my opinion, it's by far the best mouse on the market - bar
none. I've read a lot about 'crap software' and 'skipping' and 'gaming
sucks on the MX1000' but I just don't get it. I've never had even the
slightest problem. This mouse is GREAT! As far as the sensitivity issue
goes, I was VERY surprised by the MX1000. To me, the MX700 was the ideal
mouse. I only considered one other mouse while I owned the MX700, and that
was the MX900 because of it's blue-toothe capability. The difference (in
sensitivity) between the MX700 and the MX1000 is phenominal. In fact, with
the MX700 I used a mouse pad simply because it was a little easier to move
the mouse around. I had to ditch the mouse pad, however, because the MX1000
is so sensitive it was a little jumpy because of the physical texture of the
pad itself (cloth pads - eh).
That's my 2-cents.
Tom Clymer
"John Doe" <jd...@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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My MX1000 has no difficulties or issue when I left it up.
Best mouse I ever owned. It works perfect on any surface I've tried it
on. I'm using it on top of my head to send this. I have to admit it
did have a rough time when I run it over my ear though.
John Doe
>> The MX1000 sucks for gaming, lift it off the pad and it skips,
>> I hate mine, I used it less than a week and went back to my
>> MX510 gaming mouse which is superb for all uses, not just
>> gaming. If you are looking for a gaming mouse go with a 510 or
>> the new 518 and live with a cord.
> I've heard this complaint a number of times from users of the
> MX1000.
Where? I did a significant amount of research and did not find those
comments.
> You should be able to lift an optical mouse off the surface off
> your mouse pad without experiencing any difficulties, but a lot
> of users are not experiencing as such with the MX1000. I've
> used a few optical mice in my time (Logitech MouseMan Dual
> Optical & MX510, Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0 & Wheel
> Mouse Optical) and am able to lift all of those mice off the
> mouse pad momentarily without any difficulties or issues.
Maybe you just do not like cordless devices?
Fred is back
> Where?
That's your problem.
> I did a significant amount of research and did not find those comments.
Do you still do a significant amount of research?
> Maybe you just do not like cordless devices?
Don't be so hesitant.
John Doe
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Fred is back
You fucking stupid retard. Learn to use your newsreader.
Clyde
> I own a MX1000. Before this mouse, I had the MX700. I am very pleased with
> the MX1000. In my opinion, it's by far the best mouse on the market - bar
> none. I've read a lot about 'crap software' and 'skipping' and 'gaming
> sucks on the MX1000' but I just don't get it. I've never had even the
> slightest problem. This mouse is GREAT! As far as the sensitivity issue
> goes, I was VERY surprised by the MX1000. To me, the MX700 was the ideal
> mouse. I only considered one other mouse while I owned the MX700, and that
> was the MX900 because of it's blue-toothe capability. The difference (in
> sensitivity) between the MX700 and the MX1000 is phenominal. In fact, with
> the MX700 I used a mouse pad simply because it was a little easier to move
> the mouse around. I had to ditch the mouse pad, however, because the MX1000
> is so sensitive it was a little jumpy because of the physical texture of the
> pad itself (cloth pads - eh).
>
> That's my 2-cents.
>
> Tom Clymer
>
Ah, get a leather mouse pad. They are the best I've ever used. I run my
MX700 on one and love it.
Clyde
relic
Welcome back Fred.
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pcbutts1 wrote:
>> Let's get this right, eh. You, pcbutthead, a total fuckwit,
>> a confirmed techo-retard, known netloon and proven plagiarist cunt
> Yes I am.
John Doe
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Fisher
wrote:
>Maybe you just do not like cordless devices?
Any "gamer's" mouse comes with a cord - for a reason. I just dumped my
MX700 for the MX518.
JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:24:58 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenet.love.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Maybe you just do not like cordless devices?
>
> Any "gamer's" mouse comes with a cord - for a reason.
so it can tangle, get hooked,cat can grab it and wreck a jump,shot,or move?
Fred is back
> so it can tangle, get hooked,cat can grab it and wreck a jump,shot,or
> move?
Lets go and destroy something.
Chris Townsend
Here is an 861 post thread with opinions from both sides, lots of people
having problems, lots not.
http://3dgpu.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=310&hl=MX1000
Stupid comment about not liking cordless/wireless devices.
Why would anyone have anything against cordless as long as it performs well
for them?
I have the MX700, MX1000, Mediaplay and a Gyration Gyro mouse for cordless.
Still, for gaming give me the MX510 and I was also a big fan of Logi's dual
optical. The Gyro mouse is great for HTPC use as it works in air and has
incredible range but I prefer the Mediaplay due to its built in functions,
and does track on my couch and pants leg when using the multimedia interface
but is fine for gaming when I use the mousepad on the coffee table. Gyration
does make a HTPC specific in-air mouse but it is more money than I wish to
spend.
I have no wired keyboards.
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Chris Townsend
bare desk.
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John Doe
> Hmm, you didn't look very hard.
But in fact I did.
You seem to be an exception with a loud voice.
> Here is an 861 post thread with opinions from both sides, lots
> of people having problems, lots not.
I like to gather opinions from real people in unmoderated forums
like Usenet.
This is where everyone comes, especially after they get spanked
for saying something the moderator did not like on some moderated
forum. Then they come here and whine like a baby about it.
> http://3dgpu.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=310&hl=MX1000
> Stupid comment about not liking cordless/wireless devices.
That said out of ignorance.
> Why would anyone have anything against cordless as long as it
> performs well for them?
Do the research.
And please post in context if you want me/others to follow the
conversation.
>
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Fisher
wrote:
>so it can tangle, get hooked,cat can grab it and wreck a jump,shot,or move?
>
No, because the MX518 and the Razor Diamondback are the most
responsive mouses money can buy and that's what a gamer wants.
Plus no more having to recharge the damn things. I got rid of my
wireless keyboard for that reason too. I had the keyboard die on me a
couple of times while playing BF1942 online, not fun when the only
recourse is to reach for the reset button on the front of your PC -
that's if your lucky enough to have a reset button. I went for a
Saitek Eclipse keyboard and dumped all my wireless devices.
John Doe
That sounds odd.
There is a recent thread in the homebuilt PC group which mentions
that wireless keyboards under heavy use go for at least a year
between battery replacement. So we use alkaline batteries instead
of rechargeable.
If your gaming is such that one interruption per year causes
distress, you are a very serious gamer.
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JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
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Chris Townsend
"John Doe" <jd...@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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no...@home.net
>Any "gamer's" mouse comes with a cord - for a reason.
what's the reason ?
no...@home.net
>
>No, because the MX518 and the Razor Diamondback are the most
>responsive mouses money can buy and that's what a gamer wants.
>Plus no more having to recharge the damn things. I got rid of my
>wireless keyboard for that reason too. I had the keyboard die on me a
>couple of times while playing BF1942 online, not fun when the only
>recourse is to reach for the reset button on the front of your PC -
>that's if your lucky enough to have a reset button.
Here's an alternative to the reset button
PUT SOME BATTERIES IN THE KEYBOARD ;)
guess
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guess
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Fred is back
guess
you'll learn more in KINDERGARTEN!!!!
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Fred is back
> Wow fred, you incredible use of the english language just floors me.
German is a strange language. It was invented only to allow chermans to spit
on people under the guise of polite conversation.
> Maybe you'll learn more in KINDERGARTEN!
You don't sound too sure.
Paul
"
> Wow fred, you incredible use..........
John Doe
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Fisher
wrote:
>That sounds odd.
>
>There is a recent thread in the homebuilt PC group which mentions
>that wireless keyboards under heavy use go for at least a year
>between battery replacement. So we use alkaline batteries instead
>of rechargeable.
>
>If your gaming is such that one interruption per year causes
>distress, you are a very serious gamer.
Then there is something wrong with my Logitech wireless keyboard
because it would need new batteries every few months, or I use my PC
*much* more than you do. Take your pick.
Fisher
wrote:
>great opinion you have there..............that's all it is
Facts, just the facts. Look it up sometime. Explain to me why
Logitech's "GAMER'S" mouse (518) is corded, explain to me why Razor
"GAMER'S" mice are corded, explain to me why Saitek's "GAMER'S"
keyboard is corded? Think about it, wireless will always have a slight
delay by it's very nature and will never match a corded device. Send
an email to Logitech and ask them for their "opinion", they didn't
call the MX518 corded mouse a "gamers" mouse just for the hell of it.
Fisher
>Here's an alternative to the reset button
>PUT SOME BATTERIES IN THE KEYBOARD ;)
Batteries cost money. I killed two birds with one stone, bought an
MX518, now I don't need batteries and I have a more responsive mouse.
Fisher
Zero lag. Anything wireless has a bit of lag, although I admit the
MX700 mouse was quite fast but no wireless keyboard and mouse will
match a corded keyboard and mouse for responsiveness.
John Doe
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:05:44 GMT, John Doe
>>That sounds odd. There is a recent thread in the homebuilt PC
>>group which mentions that wireless keyboards under heavy use go
>>for at least a year between battery replacement. So we use
>>alkaline batteries instead of rechargeable. If your gaming is
>>such that one interruption per year causes distress, you are a
>>very serious gamer.
> Then there is something wrong with my Logitech wireless keyboard
> because it would need new batteries every few months, or I use
> my PC *much* more than you do. Take your pick.
Do you use your PC more than about 12 hours per day, at least six
days per week?
Apparently you do not really know what you are talking about.
For at least six months, I have been using speech recognition to
do much of my keyboard work, command and dictation. But I have had
a cordless keyboard for years.
Again. The Cordless Desktop Pro keyboard batteries last for at
least one year. There must've been something wrong with your
setup, or your perception.
Others report equally long keyboard battery life.
>
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John Doe
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:24:36 -0700, "JAD"
>>great opinion you have there..............that's all it is
> Facts, just the facts. Look it up sometime. Explain to me why
> Logitech's "GAMER'S" mouse (518) is corded,
Because it is connected to the computer with a wire.
> explain to me why Razor "GAMER'S" mice are corded,
Because they are not sophisticated enough or because they want to
keep the cost down.
> explain to me why Saitek's "GAMER'S" keyboard is corded?
Because a wired connection costs less than a wireless connection.
> Think about it, wireless will always have a slight delay by it's
> very nature and will never match a corded device.
You are guessing. You do not really know the difference in speed
of communication between a corded and cordless device.
Communication speed makes no difference beyond a certain point
which probably has already been passed.
What matters is responsiveness of the mouse itself.
> Send an email to Logitech and ask them for their "opinion", they
> didn't call the MX518 corded mouse a "gamers" mouse just for the
> hell of it.
To keep the cost down.
Because they think you cannot handle setting up a cordless device?
I mean seriously. If you had so much trouble with your cordless
keyboard which required inserting two AA batteries into the
battery compartment, you might be totally stumped by a cordless
mouse.
Good luck
>
>
>
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Xocyll
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
No, so you don't get the mouse equivalent of:
http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=305
Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:24:36 -0700, "JAD" <kapa...@earthcharter.net>
> wrote:
>
> >great opinion you have there..............that's all it is
>
> Facts, just the facts. Look it up sometime. Explain to me why
> Logitech's "GAMER'S" mouse (518) is corded, explain to me why Razor
> "GAMER'S" mice are corded, explain to me why Saitek's "GAMER'S"
>
JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
your opinion again
JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
and that is an annoyance(exaggerated) for you, not for everyone else. By
the way, let go of the trigger once and awhile. running and shooting when no
opponents are present, will drain the batteries.
or I use my PC
> *much* more than you do. Take your pick.
now an assumption...........your battin' 1000
your preferences, opinions, and whining are just that, nothing more.
JAD
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Fisher
wrote:
>Do you use your PC more than about 12 hours per day, at least six
>days per week?
Yes.
>Apparently you do not really know what you are talking about.
The usual argument of the weak minded fuckwits.
>For at least six months, I have been using speech recognition to
>do much of my keyboard work, command and dictation. But I have had
>a cordless keyboard for years.
And your point is?
>Again. The Cordless Desktop Pro keyboard batteries last for at
>least one year. There must've been something wrong with your
>setup, or your perception.
No, the fact is a corded keyboard and mouse are lag free. End of
discussion.
>Others report equally long keyboard battery life.
As I said, there was either something wrong with my keyboard or I use
the PC far more than the average person. And for the record, I hate
speech recognition software. Yes, I'm a luddite.
Fisher
wrote:
>your preferences, opinions, and whining are just that, nothing more.
>
>
What I think *and know* is all that matters to me. What you *think*
means fuck all.
Fisher
wrote:
>
>To keep the cost down.
>
>Because they think you cannot handle setting up a cordless device?
>
>I mean seriously. If you had so much trouble with your cordless
>keyboard which required inserting two AA batteries into the
>battery compartment, you might be totally stumped by a cordless
>mouse.
>
>Good luck
Keep talking out of your arse, that's all you're good at.
Fisher
wrote:
>becuase people like you believe thier own BS and buy them....sucker
Do some research dillweed and put the copy of PCMag down - it's for
junior office boys who know sweet fuck all about gaming.
JAD
"
take yourself back to the weenie group , if I spent a ton of money on
something for no reason, I guess I would defend it to the limit.... you've
done your duty...now go back to pac man and ....f*ck all?
Fisher
wrote:
>your opinion again
Up to 1600 DPI at the push of a button. That's a fact, not an opinion.
John Doe
> ... Yes, I'm a luddite.
Then why consider your opinion on this subject worthwhile reading?
>
>
>
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no...@home.net
I use my PC EVERYDAY for hours and I have not changed it's batteries
in almost a year now.
no...@home.net
>No, the fact is a corded keyboard and mouse are lag free. End of
>discussion.
And there is no lag with the newer cordless devices.
no...@home.net
Look up the word "marketing" you seem to have fallen for it hook line
and sinker baby! Here is a hint for you: Yes they would call it a
"gamers" mouse just for the hell of it.
If Logitech comes out with a cordless laser mouse tomorrow and calls
it the "Super Gamers Deluxe mouse " what will you do ? Probably the
same thing you would do if someone stuck you in a round room and told
you to piss in the corner.
Personally I worry more about the lag from the net far more than the
9999999 milliseconds if perceived lag from my mouse.
NightSky 421
> Troll
>
LOL, you should talk.
As for the MX1000, my observation about the MX1000 is based on what I have
read on various Internet tech forums. To be fair, not everyone experiences
the issue, but a lot of people have.
And no, I don't like cordless mice, but my original post was not based on
that.
no...@home.net
Your key board cost money and your mouse isn't any more responsive
than a MX1000.
NightSky 421
news:33zxe.10639$302....@fe04.lga...
>
> so it can tangle, get hooked,cat can grab it and wreck a jump,shot,or
> move?
What I have done to combat this sort of problem is I have created a short
loop with the cord on my desk. I agree it can be annoying when you need to
tug the mouse cord, but this gets around the problem. Also, when I hook up
the wires to my computer, the mouse is usually the last thing I plug in.
This way, it doesn't get entangled with the rest of the rat's nest. :-)
no...@home.net
http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20040924/logitech-08.html
"Now for the tests, to see whether all this technology really makes a
difference in real life. We compared the laser mouse with the MX 510,
the most precise mouse available as of today. We tried both models on
the latest FPS games - UT 2004, Doom 3 and FarCry. First off, I gave
the mouse to several players to try with these games and the reaction
was unanimous: the MX 1000 is better. It's not just a matter of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
precision in movement, but overall precision. This mouse reacts to
your every movement. Your hand movements correspond very exactly to
those of the character on the screen. The traditional test - making a
half-turn followed by aiming through the scope in FarCry - confirms
the impression. You gain in speed because targeting a point just after
a rapid movement is astoundingly easy. We then tested the MX 1000 on
retouching a picture in Photoshop, and the conclusion is the same.
Zeroing in on a spot with millimeter precision is uncannily easy.
And Faster To Boot
An interesting corollary of this diabolical precision is that it's
possible to use a higher resolution than with another mouse. As soon
as you increase the pointer speed (CPI), the mouse moves across the
screen faster, but you lose preciseness on small movements. But since
the MX is fundamentally more precise, you can move faster without
problems. I moved the cursor almost to the maximum (not far from 800
CPI) with a 1280x1024 resolution. Compared to other mice, you'll have
less physical distance to cover while maintaining the same precision.
This means you'll be faster on games and other graphics-based
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
applications.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The verdict is clear. Not only is the laser mouse more precise than
the preceding generation, but its general handling is exceptional.
Everybody who tried it wants one. And that's in comparison with the
best LED optical mouse on the market, the MX 510.
If you compare with a standard mouse, the difference is like night and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
day.
Fisher
wrote:
>
>"
>take yourself back to the weenie group , if I spent a ton of money on
>something for no reason, I guess I would defend it to the limit.... you've
>done your duty...now go back to pac man and ....f*ck all?
>
That was a pointless troll.
Fisher
wrote:
>Fisher <fisher@no_email.here> wrote:
>
>> ... Yes, I'm a luddite.
>
>Then why consider your opinion on this subject worthwhile reading?
Because I own an MX700 and I own speech recognition software - I
rejected both and for good reasons. Both have weaknesses. A corded
mouse is superior to a cordless mouse when it comes to preciseness and
speed, speech recognition software is not 100% fault free which makes
it 100% useless. My opinion is of merit.
Fisher
>And there is no lag with the newer cordless devices.
All wireless devices have some lag. Whether you notice it or not is
another matter.
Fisher
> I use my PC EVERYDAY for hours and I have not changed it's batteries
>in almost a year now.
Which keyboard? I bought the MX700 Duo and my keyboard doesn't last
anymore than a few months on the batteries. Maybe I got a duff
keyboard, I've already suggested that.
Fisher
>Look up the word "marketing" you seem to have fallen for it hook line
>and sinker baby! Here is a hint for you: Yes they would call it a
>"gamers" mouse just for the hell of it.
>
>If Logitech comes out with a cordless laser mouse tomorrow and calls
>it the "Super Gamers Deluxe mouse " what will you do ? Probably the
>same thing you would do if someone stuck you in a round room and told
>you to piss in the corner.
>
>Personally I worry more about the lag from the net far more than the
>9999999 milliseconds if perceived lag from my mouse.
No. You look up the MX518 and read what it can do for a gamer then get
back to me.
Fisher
Bollocks! I was talking the MX518 which can do 1600DPI. The 510 can
only do 800DPI. And I'm reading lots of complaints of skipping
problems with the MX1000 so Tom's Hardware talks shit, once again.
With the MX518 I can change the DPI setting at will which allows me to
adjust the sensitivity during gameplay so that I can use various
settings for sniper mode etc. That's what makes it the best gaming
mouse on the market, and the fact it is cordless means no more
recharging crap and added weight due to batteries.
John Doe
That expression sounds obscure as "suck filter"
John Doe
Fisher
>Your key board cost money and your mouse isn't any more responsive
>than a MX1000.
>
You're comparing an MX510 to an MX1000. Compare 518 not 510. MX1000
has skipping issues going by what I read at that forum posted in this
thread. With 518 I can run it at various DPI settings on the fly up to
1600 DPI, 510 only does 800 DPI. Different games are sometimes better
at lower or higher DPI settings, when sniping you may want to lower
the DPI for more finer control. That's why it's called a "gamer's"
mouse. I can get the 510 for $29.99 CAD right now, the 518 goes for
$59.99 CAD. There's a reason it costs more.
JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
How many times have you been knocked out of the sky, off a ledge, out of a
foxhole, lazered, or headshot by a cordless mouse? None I'm sure..... and
the 'bat' makes the hitter....... dude its your OPINION, furthest from fact
as any statement can be... marketing monkey
John Doe
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:08:44 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenet.love.invalid>
>>Do you use your PC more than about 12 hours per day, ...
> Yes.
And where do spend the other two hours?
troll
John Doe
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John Doe
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:10:20 -0400, no...@home.net wrote:
>>Your key board cost money and your mouse isn't any more
>>responsive than a MX1000.
> You're comparing an MX510 to an MX1000. Compare 518 not 510.
> MX1000 has skipping issues going by what I read at that forum
> posted in this thread.
So your dozens of troll posts in this thread "For Logitech MX1000
laser mouse owners" are based on zero experience.
I guess you are just begging to be sold on the mouse.
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> From: Fisher <fisher no_email.here>
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> Subject: Re: For Logitech MX1000 laser mouse owners
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See also: James Calivar
no...@home.net
If you can't notice it what's the problem? And BTW this thread is
about the mx1000 not all wireless devices.
Maybe you could help me out here and give me some FACTS on this lag
that all wireless devices have ? Then tell me the lag of the mx1000.
no...@home.net
It's their latest (what ever they call it) my old one took batteries
far more often though.
Maybe you bought crap batteries?
no...@home.net
I have and all it does is change DPI on the fly...BIG WOOOOOP!
But what does that have to do with marketing ? (That's a trick
question BTW)
no...@home.net
But the thread is about the MX 1000 NOTG THE MX510 DUH!!!!
You obviously aren't concerned with facts so have fun playing with
your corded mouse. But if you're going to talk bad about a product (Mx
1000) at least know what you're talking about first.
>With the MX518 I can change the DPI setting at will which allows me to
>adjust the sensitivity during gameplay so that I can use various
>settings for sniper mode etc. That's what makes it the best gaming
>mouse on the market, and the fact it is cordless means no more
>recharging crap and added weight due to batteries.
You must be one weak dude if you can't push a cordless mouse around.
no...@home.net
wrote:
>no...@home.net wrote:
It must have hit him one to many times in the head. Good thing it
wasn't one of those damn heavy ass cordless ones or he might be dead.
sbb78247
> Tough guy wanna-be troll
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>> John Doe <jd...@usenet.love.invalid> wrote:
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>> You fucking stupid retard. Learn to use your newsreader.
bitch and whine john, bitch and whine you fucktoad
no...@home.net
>On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:10:20 -0400, no...@home.net wrote:
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>
>>Your key board cost money and your mouse isn't any more responsive
>>than a MX1000.
>>
>
>You're comparing an MX510 to an MX1000. Compare 518 not 510.
Actually I didn't compare them Tom did. Maybe I'm mistaken here but
the tread is about the MX 1000 not the MX 510.
I think if you think a little you would see that the MX 1000 was
compared to the 510 because it was the current "gamers" mouse at the
time. You said that "gamer" mice had to better for a reason because
they called it a "Gamers mouse" and they would do that for no good
reason. Has you can see from the article that isn't always true.
I say just wait and we'll see a laser with the same ability in the
future and it to will be better than the 518. The fact is that your
opinions are just that.
>MX1000
>has skipping issues going by what I read at that forum posted in this
>thread. With 518 I can run it at various DPI settings on the fly up to
>1600 DPI, 510 only does 800 DPI. Different games are sometimes better
>at lower or higher DPI settings, when sniping you may want to lower
>the DPI for more finer control. That's why it's called a "gamer's"
>mouse. I can get the 510 for $29.99 CAD right now, the 518 goes for
>$59.99 CAD. There's a reason it costs more.
LOL
Yes it cost more because its the latest model, period.
John Doe
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Lord Gazwad of Grantham
and coffin maker, jabbered:
> Troll
Thanks, I will!
Now that we have established that you're a kiddie-fiddler and we have access
to your records, what do you propose to do?
--
For my own part, I have never had a thought which I could not set down
in words with even more distinctness than that with which I conceived
it. There is, however, a class of fancies of exquisite delicacy which
are not thoughts, and to which as yet I have found it absolutely
impossible to adapt to language. These fancies arise in the soul, alas
how rarely. Only at epochs of most intense tranquillity, when the
bodily and mental health are in perfection. And at those weird points
of time, where the confines of the waking world blend with the world of
dreams. And so I captured this fancy, where all that we see, or seem,
is but a dream within a dream.
John Doe
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Fisher
>If you can't notice it what's the problem? And BTW this thread is
>about the mx1000 not all wireless devices.
>Maybe you could help me out here and give me some FACTS on this lag
>that all wireless devices have ? Then tell me the lag of the mx1000.
I don't know the *exact* figures but use your fucking noggin' and use
some common sense. ALL WIRELESS DEVICES HAVE SOME LAG. Learn it now.
Fisher
>
>I have and all it does is change DPI on the fly...BIG WOOOOOP!
>But what does that have to do with marketing ? (That's a trick
>question BTW)
The question is "what does that do for a gamer?", marketing has
nothing to do with it.
Fisher
>Maybe you bought crap batteries?
Possible. I bought a big bundle of Everlast batteries and they may
well have been crap.
Fisher
>I think if you think a little you would see that the MX 1000 was
>compared to the 510 because it was the current "gamers" mouse at the
>time. You said that "gamer" mice had to better for a reason because
>they called it a "Gamers mouse" and they would do that for no good
>reason. Has you can see from the article that isn't always true.
The 510 was never marketed as a "gamer's" mouse.
>Yes it cost more because its the latest model, period.
No, also because it is better - period.
JAD
"Fisher" <fisher@no_email.here> wrote in message
if there is such a lag.....hey nanosecond counter get over yourself..you'll
believe anything I guess