Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
be considered on-topic in this group?
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc (who uses sock puppets)
for instance. No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware,
demoware, nagware, PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited
software, trialware, viruses or warez for me, please.
> should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
>
Yes
--
KeithS.
To reply directly, replace the first at with the second one
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is
> called for, please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing
> features that one is looking for in a freeware program, should
> discussion of nagware be considered on-topic in this group?
Yes.
--
Cheers,
Harvey
No.
Yes
John
>, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
NO
--
Stubbo of Oz
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
>
No
Nope.
>Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
>one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
>be considered on-topic in this group?
That's not voting, it's a straw poll, with no validity whatsoever
(unless you can explain who is entitled to vote, and how you plan to
stop people voting more than once).
--
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>Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
>please start another thread.
>
>Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
>one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
>be considered on-topic in this group?
Yes
--
To email me directly, remove CLUTTER.
On some exceptional occasions one might want to
give information to a nagware that is not abusive or irritating,
as the last alternative other than spending money or cracking a program.
John Corlis is mad because I told someone about www.995pdf.com
that is not exactly freeware. It opens a browser after you use it with a
sponsor.
I personally have used the pdf printer and I find it a fantastic product,
NOT some stupid nagware, and I dont mind pressing the close button on the
browser.
I mentioned this software because there is no other freeware in this
category for windows.
If it wasnt so good, I wouldnt have said anything.. I have no gain
whatsoever in talking about a program, nor do I have any wish to post in
this group irrelevant content all the time.
So what does he do? He starts a vote now, so he can then say to me, get lost
no one wants your contribution, you are off topic, bla bla bla....
I find this type of childlike action very disturbing... of troll and NetCop
calibre....
trying to create a climate of hate...
I do not regularly post anything else than freeware. On the rare occasion
that
I think I should mention something else, I do, and I do this to help,
without having any personal gain.
I suspect that he is a nice guy, but everyone can get overly enthusiastic
sometimes.
Peace
"John Corliss" <jcor...@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:125671t...@corp.supernews.com...
YES
YES
Lou
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
Yes
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
>
Yes.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
--
______________________________________________________________________________
Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know
whether you were up them with or not
- Barry Humphries
yes
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
Yes, nagware should be allowed as long as it is identified as
such.
Yes
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
No
NO!
--
The Seabat
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
No, but only if
A. Programs with splashscreens are not to be discussed
B. Program that makes shortcuts on the desktop are not discussed
Both things are not needed for any program.
--
Ivan V. Klattrup
http://www.klattrup.dk
Yes.
Whatever the result it is not valid.
John Jay Smith wrote:
> John Corlis is mad because I told someone about www.995pdf.com
> that is not exactly freeware. It opens a browser after you use it with a
> sponsor.
> I personally have used the pdf printer and I find it a fantastic product,
> I mentioned this software because there is no other freeware in this
> category for windows.
> If it wasnt so good, I wouldnt have said anything..
Thanks, good advice. And thanks for the explanation of this situation.
> I suspect that he is a nice guy,
No, he isn't.
--
Roger J.
I agree... I wanted to bring that up too, but I really dont want to start a
flame war here...
>> I suspect that he is a nice guy,
>
> No, he isn't.
I really dont know who this guy is... but his signature does seem
disturbing...
--
-Ken www.computerboom.com
If you call me a troll, lets go sunbathing and see who turns to stone. :-)
"Roger Johansson" <roge...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146322744.8...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called
> for, please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features
> that one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of
> nagware be considered on-topic in this group?
yes
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called
> for, please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features
> that one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of
> nagware be considered on-topic in this group?
I am slow and the question is hard to get my head around. Maybe there
has been a thread which has explored nagware recently.
I think nagware could be discussed in this group but not in the same way
or to the same level as shareware. For example, one might make a
passing reference to nagware applications or advise that they are free
although with annoying nag boxes.
>Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
>please start another thread.
>
>Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
>one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
>be considered on-topic in this group?
Yes.
No.
QV
>YES
It looks like the YES votes carry the question.
However, this is just a straw poll and not binding.
--
Slimes-Daily motto: 1) Tax and Spend, 2) Change the Constituion to make it easier to do (1).
No!
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
>
yes
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
yes
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.php
"Nagware: has a popup (nag) screen, asking you to purchase the software.
You must press a button to get past the nag screen."
We've been discussing Nagware apps for years AND selecting them for the
Pricelessware List - often with *inaccurate* ware descriptions. . .
Trillian was (finally) *identified* as Nagware during the PL2004
selection process. Trillian's nag started after 1000-2002 hours of use.
Note: Trillian was selected for PL2004 after winning a ware ballot.
(Trillian was also selected for PL2002, PL2003.)
There were "It's not *really* Nagware" posts during the recent
Pricelessware ware ballots for PowerDesk (PL2006x, PL2005, PL2004,
PL2003, PL2002, PL2001) and AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic (PL2006x,
PL2005, PL2004, PL2003).
"It's not *really* Nagware" is fuzzy thinking. If it meets the ACF
definition of Nagware it IS Nagware and it should be labeled as such.
OTOH a Nagware label does not tell the whole story - all nags are NOT
alike.
ISTM good ware descriptions are one of ACF's greatest accomplishments
Censorship encourages fuzzy thinking and bad ware descriptions. IMO
attempting to censor discussion of Nagware is step in the wrong direction.
Susan
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Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):
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Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)
> Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
yes
--
Maria Luisa C - 29/04/2006 21.08.08
He was dull in a new way, and that made many think him great.
Samuel Johnson
thanx
--
-Ken www.computerboom.com
If you call me a troll, lets go sunbathing and see who turns to stone. :-)
"Susan Bugher" <sebu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4bhr4eF...@individual.net...
Perhaps he's never told you to drink drain cleaner, stalked you to other
newsgroups, or made implicit threats of violence against you. Yet...
--
Andy Mabbett
Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: <http://www.no2id.net/>
Free Our Data: <http://www.freeourdata.org.uk>
Yes
--
"When I am right, No one remembers
When I am wrong, No one forgets"
No
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
> be considered on-topic in this group?
Yes.
Yes.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Yes
But I also think that those discussing nagware should be frank about the
severity of its nagging. The similar thing goes for crippleware, etc.
I'm not sure that this thread can be considered a "vote", but I consider it
to be an interesting "opinion poll".
// Bjorn A
Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php
>
> Yes, but this voting is not arranged by our point person, it is not
> arranged by us as a collective, it is an irregular voting started by a
> person who has a hidden agenda.
>
> Whatever the result it is not valid.
>
> John Jay Smith wrote:
>
> > John Corlis is mad because I told someone about www.995pdf.com
> > that is not exactly freeware. It opens a browser after you use it
> > with a sponsor.
> > I personally have used the pdf printer and I find it a fantastic
> > product,
>
> > I mentioned this software because there is no other freeware in this
> > category for windows.
> > If it wasnt so good, I wouldnt have said anything..
>
> Thanks, good advice. And thanks for the explanation of this situation.
>
>
> > I suspect that he is a nice guy,
>
> No, he isn't.
You are going the best way for a right-radical State. In my holy
opinion :-)
America is getting better than you. I would shit on such policies, as I
shit here on the same policies.
Best Regards,
Daniel Mandic
No
No!
--
Zo
!CAUTION! Taglines may be hazardous to your disk space!
>> 'John Corliss' wrote:
>>
>>>Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
>>>please start another thread.
>>>
>>>Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
>>>one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
>>>be considered on-topic in this group?
>
>Yes
>
>But I also think that those discussing nagware should be frank about the
>severity of its nagging. The similar thing goes for crippleware, etc.
I agree that would be very helpful. It's irritating to be led to a
piece of s/w only to find out later that it's nagware or whatever.
But it's always possible that the user might still decide it's the
best program for the job.
>I'm not sure that this thread can be considered a "vote", but I consider it
>to be an interesting "opinion poll".
I think John Corliss lives in a parallel universe...
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
> please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that one
> is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware be
> considered on-topic in this group?
YES
Regards,
Colin
>Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
>please start another thread.
>
>Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
>one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
>be considered on-topic in this group?
No.
>> 'John Corliss' wrote:
>>
>>>Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called for,
>>>please start another thread.
>>>
>>>Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
>>>one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware
>>>be considered on-topic in this group?
>
>Yes
>
>But I also think that those discussing nagware should be frank about the
>severity of its nagging. The similar thing goes for crippleware, etc.
Yes, certainly.
>
>I'm not sure that this thread can be considered a "vote", but I consider it
>to be an interesting "opinion poll".
That's more accurate.
--
Slimes-Daily motto: 1) Tax and Spend, 2) Change the Constituion to make it easier to do (1).
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features that
> one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of nagware be
> considered on-topic in this group?
Yes.
Loren
...
no
No.
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Yes
>
> I think John Corliss lives in a parallel universe...
Parallel with what ? Not mine.
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features
> that one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion
> of nagware be considered on-topic in this group?
*no*
--
dee
> Please just answer yes or no. If you feel that discussion is called
> for, please start another thread.
>
> Question (rephrased): Except in the context of describing features
> that one is looking for in a freeware program, should discussion of
> nagware be considered on-topic in this group?
No
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