All freeware PC

joe..bee

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Jan 8, 2005, 5:52:33 PM1/8/05

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Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are they.
Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone has any
info to share I would be much appreciated to you.

Joe

Le Loup

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Jan 8, 2005, 5:58:38 PM1/8/05

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joe..bee a écrit :

> Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are they.
> Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone has any
> info to share I would be much appreciated to you.

Mandrake 10.1 official

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
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www.lelouptheatre.tk

Désormais, pour économiser l'énergie, la lumière au bout du tunnel
restera éteinte.

Mike Andrade

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Jan 8, 2005, 6:05:15 PM1/8/05

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Le Loup <adr...@invalide.fr> wrote in
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> joe..bee a écrit :
>> Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what
>> are they. Am looking to do the same but don't know where to
>> start, if anyone has any info to share I would be much
>> appreciated to you.
>
> Mandrake 10.1 official
>

Ditto.

--
Mike
The day after tomorrow is the third day of the rest of your life.
- George Carlin

joe..bee

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"joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in message
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Forgot to mention I am running Windows 98SE

Conor

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Jan 8, 2005, 6:36:30 PM1/8/05

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In article <mTZDd.110820$K7.6...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, joe..bee
says...

OK...

Browser...Mozilla Firefox
E-Mail/Usenet....Mozilla Thunderbird
Anti-Virus...AVG
Firewall....Sygate Personal Edition
Multimedia...Winamp
Office Suite...Open Office.
Zip/Rar etc utility...7-Zip.
Bittorent Client.....Azureus.
Instant Messaging....Trillian Basic.

Games:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
Chromium BSU
Clanbomber
Frozen Bubble

--
Conor

An imperfect plan executed violently is far superior to a perfect plan.
-- George Patton

Gordon Darling

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Jan 8, 2005, 6:38:14 PM1/8/05

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:18:42 +0000, joe..bee wrote:

>
> "joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in message
> news:RuZDd.110799$K7.7...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are
> they.

>> Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start.

>>
> Forgot to mention I am running Windows 98SE

http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+oxymoron

Regards
Gordon

Terry

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Jan 8, 2005, 6:47:01 PM1/8/05

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joe..bee wrote:

Slackware 10.0 Linux
Mozilla 1.7
D4X download manager
Jbidwatcher
Bibletime 1.4.1

Mike Andrade

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Jan 8, 2005, 6:45:17 PM1/8/05

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"joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in
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I dual boot with win98se and use mostly freeware in windows. However,
no Windows computer can be "all freeware" since the os is commercial.
Here's the freeware that I use on a regular basis:

Browser - kmeleon
Office suite - Open Office (though infrequently in Windows)
Firewall - kerio 3.15
Newsreader - Xnews
Email - Thunderbird
mp3 and streaming audio - XMPlay and QCD
File Manager - xplorer2, FMedit98, P3DO explorer
Anti Spyware - Adaware, Spybot
Email notification - Poptray
Time sync - neutron
RSS aggregator - Tristana
CD Burner - EAC, BurnAtOnce
Registry Cleaner - RegSeeker
Clipboard Utility - YCIII
Notepad - Editpad Lite
FTP - FTP Explorer
HTML editor - HTML Kit, (experimenting with Nvu)
Image Viewer - Irfanview
Image Manipulation - Photofiltre
Video - Real Alternative, Quick Time Alternative, Media Player Classic
File Eraser - Eraser
Zip Files - Ultimate Zip (freeware version) and Power Archiver (last
freeware version also)

I also use quick folders, WinPatrol, Cookie Master, EnditAll2,
EmptyTemp2, and TclockEx.

I routinely keep many other freeware programs with which to play and
experiment. I use a payware AV because I don't mess around with that.

I use win98se to play, Mandrake Linux to work.

--
Mike
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
- George Bernard Shaw

Space Madness

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Jan 8, 2005, 7:00:33 PM1/8/05

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Gordon is an idiot.

Karen

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========================
The only software I ever paid for was Norton System Works and donated $15
for mIRC in 1996. I don't think it's donateware anymore. Almost everything
else on my PC is freeware I learned about on this NG, or it came with my HP
PC or my Sony CDR/RW writer (Nero).

Karen...

Aussie Bomber

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Jan 8, 2005, 7:49:21 PM1/8/05

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Find the best of freeware here:-

http://www.pricelessware.org/thelist/index.htm

--
The Aussie Bomber
Carn The Dons!!

Freeware Fanatic

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Jan 8, 2005, 8:23:21 PM1/8/05

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>> joe..bee a écrit :
>>> Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what
>>

>> Mandrake 10.1 official
>>
> Ditto.
>

But can one get Mandrake for free, without paying for the membership?

FF

Mike Dee

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Jan 8, 2005, 8:27:15 PM1/8/05

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Freeware Fanatic <f...@acp.net> wrote in
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> But can one get Mandrake for free, without paying for the membership?

Yes

--
dee

Mike Andrade

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Freeware Fanatic <f...@acp.net> wrote in
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> Mike Andrade <m...@box.invalid> wrote in

Yes.

--
Mike
Abba...Dabba...Goo!
-- Pebbles' first words.

joe..bee

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"joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in message
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Thanks all for the effort and time taken to give me valuable advice, much
appreciated.

Chaos Master

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Jan 9, 2005, 12:16:04 AM1/9/05

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joe..bee stated:

> Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are they.
> Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone has any
> info to share I would be much appreciated to you.

The only things I've paid for, other than OS (98SE), were:

- mIRC (the ONLY IRC client that has the features I want)
- EAGLE (the schematics/PCB package I use for work - they have a limited
freeware edition)
- WinRAR (I need to create .RAR files)

Otherwise:

- Browser: Firefox
- e-mail: none... I read my e-mail on a UNIX shell account
- news: Gravity
- image editing: The GIMP
- audio player: foobar2000
- file sharing: Soulseek

Not much to say, really.

[]s
--
Chaos Master®, posting from Canoas, Brazil - 29.55° S / 51.11° W

"People told me I can't dress like a fairy.
I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want!"
-- Amy Lee

Running on: 300MHz Pentium, 128MB RAM, 8.4GB HD, 56k modem, Windows 98
SE
Mozilla Firefox 1.0, Gravity 2.70, Wget as downloader

Le Loup

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Jan 9, 2005, 3:40:23 AM1/9/05

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Freeware Fanatic a écrit :

> Mike Andrade <m...@box.invalid> wrote in
> news:Xns95D8B8B8024...@216.77.188.18:

> But can one get Mandrake for free, without paying for the membership?

Of course !

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
-=-=-
LE LOUP THEATRE
www.lelouptheatre.tk

Si deux personnes aboutissent au même résultat, alors elles ont
probablement commis la même erreur.

Le Loup

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Jan 9, 2005, 3:42:29 AM1/9/05

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Space Madness a écrit :
>>http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+oxymoron
> Gordon is an idiot.

No, he's just replying exactly to the question.

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
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LE LOUP THEATRE
www.lelouptheatre.tk

Tout ce qui commence bien finit mal.Tout ce qui commence mal finit
encore plus mal.

Le Loup

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Jan 9, 2005, 4:05:18 AM1/9/05

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joe..bee a écrit :

>>Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs.

> Forgot to mention I am running Windows 98SE

Win 98 SE is not freeware. So your comp. is not running "solely on
freeware programs".

but :
- e-mail : Geminisoft Pimmy (+ Hotmail Popper old free version)
- browser : Firefox
- Office suite : Open Office
- simple word processor : Atlantis Nova
- news : MesNews
- security : ad-aware + spybot S&D + Outpost (firewall) + AVG (antivirus)
- time sync : neutron
- scheduler : ajour
- file splitter : chainsaw
- cleaner : crap cleaner + easy cleaner
- html editor : nvu
- pics viewer : irfanview
- pics manipulation : the gimp
- archive - compression : ultimate zip
- fonts manager : X-fonter
- multimedia : Color Picker, DupPicFinder, MS Gif Animator, MWSnap,
Allchar, WinFace, CDex, RealPlayer, vanBasco's Midi Player, Media Player
Classic
- system : aida32,
- others : File lister Pro, CK Rename, Frhed, A-PDF info changer, CSVdb,
mbtPDFAsm, Acrobat Reader, Copernic, burncdcc, etc etc etc

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
-=-=-
LE LOUP THEATRE
www.lelouptheatre.tk

Ce n'est pas parce que vous n'ętes pas paranoďaque qu'ils ne sont pas
vraiment tous contre vous.

Space Madness

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Christ and Almighty!
Gordon is an idiot.

El Gee

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"joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in
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My Primary PC (the one me and my wife use) is Win2K professional (I can
legally use this OS at home as long as I stay at my current job (but
that is very OT). It has all freeware on it except MS Office (again, I
can legally have it as long as I stay with my current job, but that too
is OT). You can see the list on my home page at the "tools of the
trade" link.

However, the server and our laptop (both of which are tired old 400 mhz
machines) run all "free" software utilizing Ubuntu Linux. I really like
that distro. Rather painless but still very configurable. I ordered 10
CD's and got them free (no postage or CD cost).

--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
El Gee

Boycott the American Civil Liberties Union.
Disband the United Nations.
Fight for the Freedom God gave you.
http://mcwtlg.blogspot.com/

Remove yourhat to reply ... but it may take a while.
Best to go to www (dot) mistergeek (dot) com and reply from there.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Jan 9, 2005, 7:55:19 PM1/9/05

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That's definitely not freeware, so you have already failed to reach
your goal. You will have to get rid of all Microsoft products just to
get started. Take a look at Knoppix. You can run it without installing
anything on your hard drive. I am in the process of switching
everything over to Slackware. I have three servers on it so far.

Bob McConnell
N2SPP

Freeware Fanatic

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Jan 9, 2005, 11:58:21 PM1/9/05

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Where? How?

Mike Dee

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Freeware Fanatic <f...@acp.net> wrote in

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Type/paste 'official/iso/10.1/i586' into Google, then choose a suitable
mirror site.

--
dee

coolchinchilla

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Jan 10, 2005, 1:05:38 AM1/10/05

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Where do you get Mandrake for free? (Dense head here, sorry)

coolchinchilla

joe..bee

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"Le Loup" <adr...@invalide.fr> wrote in message

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> joe..bee a écrit :
>
> >>Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs.
> > Forgot to mention I am running Windows 98SE
>
> Win 98 SE is not freeware. So your comp. is not running "solely on
> freeware programs".
>

I didn't say I was running freeware, but was asking the question if some
people were running all freeware on their comp. that's all.

joe..bee

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"Bob McConnell" <rmcc...@NOSPAM.lightlink.com> wrote in message
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As I said to a poster before, I was asking if some people were running all
freeware, I didn't say I was.

Le Loup

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coolchinchilla a écrit :

> Where do you get Mandrake for free? (Dense head here, sorry)

Australia
# ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Sydney)

Austria
# ftp://ftp.tugraz.at/mirror/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Graz)
# ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Vienna)

Belgium
# ftp://ftp.belnet.be/packages/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

Czech Republic
# ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Brno)
# ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Brno)
# ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
#
ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Prague)
# http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Brno)

Denmark
# http://klid.dk/homeftp/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Danish only)

Finland
# ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/mirrors/Mandrake-linux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Espoo)

Germany
#
ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Esslingen)
# ftp://ftp.fh-giessen.de/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Giessen)
#
ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Wolfenbuettel)
# ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Goettingen)
#
ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Chemnitz)
# ftp://ftp.uasw.edu/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Wolfenbuettel)
#
ftp://ramses.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mirrors/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Dresden)
#
ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Aachen)
#
http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Chemnitz)

Greece
# ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Athens)

Hungary
# ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
# ftp://ftp.prew.hu/pub/Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

Ireland
# http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/mandrake/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

Israel
# http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586

Italy
# ftp://bo.mirror.garr.it/pub/mirrors/Mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Bologna)

Japan
# ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/Linux/packages/Mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
# ftp://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/Linux/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
# ftp://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
# http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586

Netherlands
#
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Amsterdam)
#
ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Amsterdam)

New Zealand
# ftp://mirror.inspire.net.nz/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586

Norway
# ftp://ftp.uio.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Stockholm)
# ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Oslo)

Poland
# ftp://ftp.ps.pl/mirrors/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Szczecin)
# ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Gdansk)
# ftp://ftp.tpnet.pl/d2/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
# ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

Romania
#
ftp://ftp.craiova.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Craiova)
#
ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Iasi)

Russian Federation
# ftp://ftp.mrtech.ru/pub/mirror/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586 (Moscow)
# ftp://ftp.sibsutis.ru/pub/.1/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

Saudi Arabia
#
ftp://ftp.isu.net.sa/pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Riyadh)
#
http://ftp.isu.net.sa/pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Riyadh)

Singapore
# http://mirror.averse.net/pub/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

Spain
#
http://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Madrid)

Sweden
#
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Uppsala)

Switzerland
# ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
# ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Zurich)

Taiwan
# ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
# ftp://linux.ntcu.net/dists/mandrake/official/iso/10.1/i586
# http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586

United Kingdom
# ftp://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/Mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Coventry)
#
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/ftp/linux/mdl/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Canterbury)
# ftp://ftp.sunsite.org.uk/package/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(London)
#
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/ftp/linux/mdl/official/iso/10.1/i586
(Canterbury)
# http://www.sunsite.org.uk/package/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.1/i586
(London)

;-)

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
-=-=-
LE LOUP THEATRE
www.lelouptheatre.tk

Rien n'est perdu tant que vous n'avez pas commencé à vous en occuper.

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Jan 10, 2005, 12:34:32 PM1/10/05

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Bill a écrit :

> Et comment on l'!installe ???

on met le cd dans le lecteur et on boote

> Blague à part, s'y retrouver dans tous les fora et les groupes de
> discussion est épuisant pour quelqu'un qui a toujours utilisé Wintruc sans
> vraiment se demander comment cela fonctionne.
> J'ai essayé Knoppix pour me faire une idée:
> install sans problème
> mais ensuite différents plantages que je n'ai pu résoudre qu'en coupant le
> courrant.
> Plantages en changeant la résolution d'écran et en ouvrant un programme de
> jeu.
> Le desktop de Knoppix est ok, mais les fenêtres des différents programmes
> sont trop petites et illisibles, c'est en essayant de changer la résolution
> d'écran pour remédier à cela que mon PC (Shuttle Pentium IV - 1 GB de ram)
> s'est planté.

ça n'a rien d'étonnant (les causes possibles sont innombrables)

> J'ai essayé d'avoir de l'aide dans le forum de Knoppix: je me suis enfui,
> il semblerait que mon QI est malheureusement trop bas :'(

;-)
ça fait 2 ans que je m'y suis mis, avec des moments de découragement
monstrueux
y a pas longtemps, quelqu'un ici demandait un soft gratuit pour passer
le temps et se titiller les neurones : nombreux ont été ceux qui ont
répondu : Linux
Ca marche plutôt bien, sur des configs pas trop exotiques et si on
s'accroche. Il m'a quand même fallu 3 semaines avant de réussir à
configurer ma clé usb !

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
-=-=-
LE LOUP THEATRE
www.lelouptheatre.tk

De toute façon, tout s'arrange toujours, même très mal.

Bill

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Jan 10, 2005, 1:11:07 PM1/10/05

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[sorry for the french intrusion, it's only temporary]

Regards!

Le Loup <adr...@invalide.fr> wrote in

news:41e2bcb5$0$6381$8fcf...@news.wanadoo.fr:

> Bill a écrit :
>
>> Et comment on l'!installe ???

> on met le cd dans le lecteur et on boote

j'y avais pas pensé 8-[

pourtant j'en ai reçus deux avec mon PC Shutle -> Mandrake Linux mais sans
indication de version sur les CD's (achat en Juin 2004)

je suppose donc que c'est du hardware compatible

C'est assez décourageant. Avec wintruc j'ai pas vraiment de problèmes: les
instructions sur la manière d'utiliser certains progs (video, photo, audio)
se trouvent facilement sur le net et sont souvent claires et sans ambiguïté

d'un autre côté, rien que par PRINCIPE, je préfèrerais utiliser Linux
mais je me demande si le temps consacré, ou perdu, en vaut vraiment la
peine

> Cordialement,
> Hervé LOTH
> -=-=-
> LE LOUP THEATRE
> www.lelouptheatre.tk

> De toute façon, tout s'arrange toujours, même très mal.

Murphy' law ?

@+

Le Loup

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Jan 10, 2005, 6:34:37 PM1/10/05

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Bill a écrit :

> pourtant j'en ai reçus deux avec mon PC Shutle -> Mandrake Linux mais sans
> indication de version sur les CD's (achat en Juin 2004)
> je suppose donc que c'est du hardware compatible

voui
plus, y a pas, sauf knoppix
pour info, la Mandrake, c'est 3 cd

> C'est assez décourageant. Avec wintruc j'ai pas vraiment de problèmes: les
> instructions sur la manière d'utiliser certains progs (video, photo, audio)
> se trouvent facilement sur le net et sont souvent claires et sans ambiguïté

par essence, les contributions sont plus nombreuses pour Win, puisqu'il
y a plus d'utilisateurs

> d'un autre côté, rien que par PRINCIPE, je préfèrerais utiliser Linux

c'est pour ça que je l'utilise en partie (et parce que ça m'amuse)

> mais je me demande si le temps consacré, ou perdu, en vaut vraiment la
> peine

non
mais entre ça ou un shoot'em up, je trouve que c'est un poil plus
enrichissant intellectuellement

>>De toute façon, tout s'arrange toujours, même très mal.
> Murphy' law ?

yep !

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH
-=-=-
LE LOUP THEATRE
www.lelouptheatre.tk

Ça ne marchera pas.

Adrian Try

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Jan 11, 2005, 4:06:36 AM1/11/05

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>>>> But can one get Mandrake for free, without paying for the
>>>> membership?

I typed mandrake into Google, and I think it was the second official site
listed that offered me a free download. (Basically it asked me whether I
was already a member, or was willing to consider becoming one in the near
future.)

Also it's currently on the cover of one of the Linux magazines.

Adrian

Richard Steven Hack

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Jan 12, 2005, 11:43:48 PM1/12/05

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:52:33 GMT, "joe..bee"
<joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote:

>Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are they.
>Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone has any
>info to share I would be much appreciated to you.

Yes, I do - well, unless you count ad-supported Opera and Eudora
(which I'm hoping to convert to FireFox and Thunderbird).

Pretty much everything else I use is freeware (well, I got an alarm
clock program which is unpaid-for shareware - but I have some alarm
clock programs I haven't gotten around to replacing it with.)

I use IrfanView for image viewing, Winamp for media viewing (well, I
view my DVDs on the WinDVD I got with a drive) and music playing,
TextPad (more unpaid-for shareware I haven't gotten around to
replacing with the half-dozen other freeware editors I have - except
jEdit which I'm using more of) for text editing, OpenOffice for the
office suite (which I actually use very little so far), yProxy and
Free Agent for newsreading (which I may replace at some point), WS-FTP
Lite for FTP, freeware version of WallMaster for wallpaper management,
puTTY for Telnet/SSH, PowerDesk for desktop management (hoping to
replace that with something that irritates me less), ZipGenius for
archive management, AVG for AV, Kerio Personal Firewall, Ad-Aware for
spyware control (I get very little), CDBurnerXP Pro for burning CDs
and DVDs (when I don't use the Nero that came with the drives) plus
literally hundreds of freeware utilities for things like file
renaming when I need it.

And of course on the other side of the machine I have Red Hat 7.3
(soon to be upgraded to more current status, then replaced with
something like Fedora Core 3 or Mandrake 10 or SUSE 9.2) - and I have
five or ten GIG of free software to try out on that OS - not counting
thirty or more CDs and DVDs from Linux Format magazine full of Linux
software!

Getting the time to USE - or even REVIEW - this stuff is my
problem...:-) And I've got only a fraction (but the best fraction) of
the stuff that's out there!

--
Richard Steven Hack
"Whatever does not kill me makes me stronger" -
and YOU have not killed me!

Richard Steven Hack

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Jan 12, 2005, 11:51:32 PM1/12/05

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:52:33 GMT, "joe..bee"
<joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote:

>Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are they.
>Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone has any
>info to share I would be much appreciated to you.

Oh, I forgot - all my Windows OS (Windows 98, Windows 2000, and
Windows XP) didn't cost me a dime - and it was all (mostly) legal.

I got the 98 and 2000 from a developer who pays for ten seats - and he
gave me one of those seats. I got the XP from Microsoft's Academic
program via City College of San Francisco. I also got Microsoft
Project, Visio, and Windows Server 2003 that way - none of which I
use.

Find a community college near you that participates in the Windows
Academic program, sign up for a computer course (they only give the
freebies to computer students) and get yourself Windows XP
(Professional version, no less, not Home) for free!

For any snide remarks from others, I do PC tech support - I have to
have Windows on my machines. Otherwise I'd ditch them all for
Linux...

Space Madness

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Jan 13, 2005, 9:17:11 PM1/13/05

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"joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in message

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OIC; UC, U R S2PID.

Space Madness

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Jan 13, 2005, 9:20:25 PM1/13/05

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"Richard Steven Hack" <richards...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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You are scum.

/3iff //ullins

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Jan 13, 2005, 10:54:40 PM1/13/05

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:52:33 GMT, "joe..bee"
<joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote:

>Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are they.
>Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone has any
>info to share I would be much appreciated to you.
>

http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

>Joe
>

joe..bee

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Jan 14, 2005, 3:52:35 AM1/14/05

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"Space Madness" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Another trollboy comes out of the woodwork, what a clever UCk witt.

Space Madness

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Jan 15, 2005, 9:05:04 PM1/15/05

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"joe..bee" <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote in message

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NAZI!

Space Madness

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Jan 15, 2005, 9:08:27 PM1/15/05

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"/3iff //ullins" <biff.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bad link. Don't go there.
It installs tons of bad stuff you really don't need.

El Gee

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Jan 16, 2005, 9:37:52 AM1/16/05

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"Space Madness" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in

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Not if you use 'Zilla :-)

No pop's, no install crap for me...

Peter Seiler

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Jan 16, 2005, 6:14:23 AM1/16/05

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Space Madness - 16.01.2005 03:05 :

> NAZI!

why unnecessary quoting ~ 70 quoting lines again only to post this
single word? Same with other postings of yours (Re: Who wants a copy of
the PL2005 CD? for example). Grrr.

--
by(e) PS

spam will be killed

/3iff //ullins

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Jan 16, 2005, 11:20:52 AM1/16/05

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:08:27 -0700, "Space Madness" <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

liar. oh wait... let me guess... you use internet explorer?
*smirk*

http://mozilla.org is for you then.

/3iff //ullins

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Jan 16, 2005, 11:22:42 AM1/16/05

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:37:52 -0600, El Gee <mcwtlg....@gmail.com>
wrote:

>"Space Madness" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
>news:34u129F...@individual.net:
>
>> "/3iff //ullins" <biff.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5kgeu0hhsn3eokhug...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:52:33 GMT, "joe..bee"
>>> <joe...@inthedogskennel.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does anyone run their comp. solely on freeware programs. And what are
>>>>they.
>>>>Am looking to do the same but don't know where to start, if anyone
>>>>has any info to share I would be much appreciated to you.
>>>>
>>> http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>>
>> Bad link. Don't go there.
>> It installs tons of bad stuff you really don't need.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Not if you use 'Zilla :-)
>

lol! i wondered what the heck that maroon was talking about. then i
realized she/he/it was still using msie. rofl!

>No pop's, no install crap for me...
>

the very reasons i use firefox :)

»Q«

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Jan 16, 2005, 11:59:33 AM1/16/05

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El Gee <mcwtlg....@gmail.com> wrote in
<news:Xns95E057B8C430...@216.196.97.136>:

> "Space Madness" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:34u129F...@individual.net:
>

>>> http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

>>
>> Bad link. Don't go there.
>> It installs tons of bad stuff you really don't need.
>
> Not if you use 'Zilla :-)
>
> No pop's, no install crap for me...

Not if you use any browser, actually. The page is fine, just a
table with links to liveCDs. There's a Google pagead script
embedded at the bottom, but nothing that installs anything.

The genius Space Monkey has hit upon the never-before-tried
technique of posting lies to get people to respond. We can only
wait with bated breath for its next innovation.

--
»Q«

»Q«

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Jan 16, 2005, 12:02:18 PM1/16/05

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»Q« <box...@gmx.net> wrote in
<news:MrQ95E06FD2D...@QsFQDN.dyndns.org>:

> The genius Space Monkey

Or Space Madness.

--
»Q«

Space Madness

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Jan 16, 2005, 5:07:59 PM1/16/05

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"Peter Seiler" <pspr...@despammed.com> wrote in message
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My "Great HopE" is that the time you spend counting quoting lines bursts a
vessel.

Space Madness

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Jan 16, 2005, 5:11:01 PM1/16/05

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"/3iff //ullins" <biff.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Resting safely in your cocoon.

Space Madness

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Jan 16, 2005, 5:13:02 PM1/16/05

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"»Q«" <box...@gmx.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for the "genius" part. :)

Space Madness

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Jan 16, 2005, 5:19:34 PM1/16/05

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"/3iff //ullins" <biff.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Mozilla sucks. Internet Explorer sucks. Opera sucks. Every browser sucks.
Linux sucks. All alternate OS's suck.
Life sucks. We're all doomed.

Joining the mainstream are you, /3iff //ullins? ;)

Peter Seiler

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Jan 17, 2005, 5:10:12 AM1/17/05

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Space Madness - 16.01.2005 23:07 :

>
> My "Great HopE" is that the time you spend counting quoting lines bursts a
> vessel.
>
>

THX for your kind general understanding of the principles/substance of
my remark.

BTW: My client suddenly shows the number of quoted lines so I have not
to count.

mcs

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Jan 17, 2005, 6:34:41 AM1/17/05

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Moments before spontaneously combusting Peter Seiler
<pspr...@despammed.com> was heard to squeal:

>Space Madness - 16.01.2005 03:05 :
>
>> NAZI!
>
>why unnecessary quoting ~ 70 quoting lines again only to post this
>single word?

Because it's a troll. That's what it does.

Space Madness

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Jan 18, 2005, 11:41:13 PM1/18/05

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"Peter Seiler" <pspr...@despammed.com> wrote in message

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My new "Great HopE" is the time you spend looking at how your "client"
counts quoting lines bursts a vessel.
BTW, what does "so I have not to count" mean?

Space Madness

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Jan 18, 2005, 11:42:28 PM1/18/05

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"mcs" <mcs...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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*I* *beg* *your* *pardon*?!