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al_p...@my-deja.com

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Hi. New guy. So I'm reading "Comic Lives", which
has interviews with Seinfeld and Reiser and that
whole generation. (It was published in '87 and
has kind of a "Who are these creatures called
'stand-up comedians'?" theme.

Anyway, Paul Rodriguez says flat-out (and is the
first comedian I've ever heard do so) something to
the effect of, "You simply can't make it in this
business without kissing ass."

True? False?

Rodriquez then goes on to say something like,
"When I first started, I kissed all the important
asses in one night."

Those of you who think ass-kissing is a necessity:
How does one do it without being transparent
and/or repulsive? (Not an easy question to answer
briefly, of course.)


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Tim Mitchell

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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al_p...@my-deja.com wrote:
[snip]

> Those of you who think ass-kissing is a necessity:
> How does one do it without being transparent
> and/or repulsive? (Not an easy question to answer
> briefly, of course.)
>

I like to think that not only do talented people not have to kiss ass,
the act demeans both them AND the kissee. (It's like stating that the
kissee's ego is more important to them than their job, and that they're
too stupid to see through the pretense.)

Of course, I always try to be polite to them as is polite to me, which
is probably %99.99 percent of the people I've met doing comedy.

But, as Ferris Bueller put it, "you can't respect somebody who kisses
your ass."

--Tim Mitchell

Oppenhiem

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Mr. Michell Said:

>Of course, I always try to be polite to them as is polite to me, which
>is probably %99.99 percent of the people I've met doing comedy.
>
>But, as Ferris Bueller put it, "you can't respect somebody who kisses
>your ass."

Hear Hear Mr. Michell! And I don't mind talking about this
becuase heck! I have to say that some people here some
times have said that I kiss butt when I am not!

I am just showing respect and pride is all!

I respect alot of people here and have pride in there
accompalishments!!!

So to all those like Mr. Baldguy and Mr. Marmal and Miss
Kyria and Miss Heatplate and and Miss Judy and Miss Bean and Miss Normal and
Mr. Little and Mr. Silverberg and Mr.
Alfonso and Mr. Marztov and Mr. Palmer and Mr. Bronstein
and Mr. Copscotch and Brother Theadore and Mr. Amazing
and Mr. and Miss all the others to many to say,
if showing respect for all them is being a butt kisser,

THEN GET ME A YEARS SUPPLY OF WAX LIPS PLEASE
BECUASE I AM JUST WARMING UP!!!!!!!!!

Sinsereley,
Randy Oppenheimer

MLBRUNKER

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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In article <7miv6j$sns$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, al_p...@my-deja.com writes:

>Anyway, Paul Rodriguez says flat-out (and is the
>first comedian I've ever heard do so) something to
>the effect of, "You simply can't make it in this
>business without kissing ass."

With all due respect to Rodriguez, does he make it clear what he means by
"kissing ass" ? Some people think they're sucking up when all they're being is
tolerably civil; believe themselves to be hopeless sell-outs when they've
merely been cordial to someone they don't literally expect to fuck.

Ray Bradley

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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>al_p...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> Anyway, Paul Rodriguez says flat-out (and is the
>> first comedian I've ever heard do so) something to
>> the effect of, "You simply can't make it in this
>> business without kissing ass."
>>
>> True? False?
>


Paul Rodriguez? Where is he now? Last thing I saw him in was staring at the
picture of the Virgin Mary covering up the answering machine. That movie had
to have been 10 years ago.

My advice would to be sincere to people. If you sincerely ARE an ass-kisser,
smooch away. If you sincerely are a personable, nice fellow, there's no
reason to change. If you're sincerely an asshole, then you may want to turn
that down But don't be saccharine sugar-sweet. I hate people like that.

Doubt there's a magic bullet on this one...


RayB

Princess Normal

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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al_p...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Anyway, Paul Rodriguez says flat-out (and is the
> first comedian I've ever heard do so) something to
> the effect of, "You simply can't make it in this
> business without kissing ass."
>
> True? False?

False.

Princess Normal
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[to autoreply remove my SpamPants]

Jimmy Fingers

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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It's very simple.

If someone's funnier than me AND he's working a club that doesn't use me AND
and he's a nice guy, then he's not an ass kisser.

BUTT, if someone's act isn't as funny as mine AND they're working a club
that doesn't use me AND he's a nice guy, then, hey, he's obviously an ass
kisser.

(okay, funny ones, go ahead, be predictable, reply "oh, then nobody's an ass
kisser.")

Now, getting back to the original topic of this thread... how's Houston's
funniest going?

Special Ed

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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I can't stand any ass-kissers...Their faces smell like shit!

Special Ed..."Taking the short bus through life!"

al_p...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Hi. New guy. So I'm reading "Comic Lives", which
> has interviews with Seinfeld and Reiser and that
> whole generation. (It was published in '87 and
> has kind of a "Who are these creatures called
> 'stand-up comedians'?" theme.
>

> Anyway, Paul Rodriguez says flat-out (and is the
> first comedian I've ever heard do so) something to
> the effect of, "You simply can't make it in this
> business without kissing ass."
>
> True? False?
>

> Rodriquez then goes on to say something like,
> "When I first started, I kissed all the important
> asses in one night."
>

> Those of you who think ass-kissing is a necessity:
> How does one do it without being transparent
> and/or repulsive? (Not an easy question to answer
> briefly, of course.)
>

Writermss

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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Here's my take on kissing ass. You will never be accused of it if you treat
everyone with the same level of courtesy and dignity, always.

When you're an asshole to the person getting you drinks at the club but
charming and funny to the club owner, you are an unequivocal ass-kisser.

Just be genuinely nice to everyone. Or be an asshole to everyone. But don't be
an opportunistic asskisser. Nobody respects that.

Dr. Margo
"Now, kiss my ass!"

ReyD2T

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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Hey:

Some people would rather call it "paying dues", some would rather call it
playing by the rules. In almost any endeavor known to man, a certain amount of
compromise with the powers that be, at least until one is familiar with the way
the game is played is de rigeur. Kissing ass implies a complete abandonment of
self-respect and willingness to accept any abuse in order to further one's
position. There are those for whom that is not such an absolute evil, but I
think the truth is rather in the middle. So, you don't necessarily have to
kiss ass, just a little of the crack...

Rod Reyes

And IMPORTANT caveat! Kissing ass does not guarantee success, so all you might
end up with is a nose full of the heady aroma of the leather cheerio.

Bill Harper

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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I can't stand it when people are obviously "kissing arse" to get something they
normally get, and so I don't do it myself. I'll be friendly, offer a handshake and
a "G'day" if they recognise me in the crowd. But I'd rather be known as someone
who had to struggle to get where he is but kept his self-respect rather than
someone whose only talent the way he uses his tongue when kissing someone else's
butt.
Of course I haven't really gotten anywhere yet, but I'll hold on to my
ideal for as long as possible.

Bill.

Andy Shelton

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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ReyD2T <rey...@aol.com> wrote in message

"nose full of the heady aroma of the leather cheerio."

Are you, by any chance, Australian?

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