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Philip Las Gourgues

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May 1, 2002, 10:48:47 PM5/1/02
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I was just wondering if there was any way to change the default view in the
open dialogue box in AutoCAD 2002 from 'Preview' to 'List'. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

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Best regards,

Philip Las Gourgues
Engineering Technician
Osborn Lane Consulting Engineers
Email: phil...@osbornlane.com
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jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid

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May 2, 2002, 4:46:34 PM5/2/02
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On Thu, 02 May 2002 02:48:47 GMT, "Philip Las Gourgues"
<phil...@osbornlane.com> wrote:

>I was just wondering if there was any way to change the default view in the
>open dialogue box in AutoCAD 2002 from 'Preview' to 'List'. Any help would
>be greatly appreciated.

I could be wrong here but -
It's a Windows Explorer setting.
If you like Explorer to show you icons, that's what you'll get.
Set Explorer to show Details in all windows.

John B


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Put the "at" in the gap.

Philip Las Gourgues

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May 2, 2002, 6:48:10 PM5/2/02
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<jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 02 May 2002 02:48:47 GMT, "Philip Las Gourgues"
> <phil...@osbornlane.com> wrote:
>
> >I was just wondering if there was any way to change the default view in
the
> >open dialogue box in AutoCAD 2002 from 'Preview' to 'List'. Any help
would
> >be greatly appreciated.
>
> I could be wrong here but -
> It's a Windows Explorer setting.
> If you like Explorer to show you icons, that's what you'll get.
> Set Explorer to show Details in all windows.

Thanks for the suggestion John. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work. I've
got windows set to view all folders as a list but AutoCAD is still showing
the icons as a preview. Any more ideas anyone?

Trey Monsour

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May 3, 2002, 10:55:53 AM5/3/02
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Philip. The "preview" option has nothing to do with whether autocad shows
you _details_ or _list_ view in your "open" dialog box. The "preview"
option just shows a thumbnail on the right side of the box... the other
options are more of a toggle between "list" and "details". If you prefer
the detail view, change it within the open dialog box (in the upper right
there is a "VIEWS" button) as well as un-checking the 'preview' option -
then open a drawing, zoom or something so that when you go to close autocad,
it will ask you to save the changes. Do so, and then re-open acad, and then
go to open a file. See what happens. You should come back to autocad with
an 'open' dialog that is set to the view you like, and without the preview
pane on the right.

hope this helps.

-Trey-

On Thu, 02 May 2002 22:48:10 GMT, "Philip Las Gourgues"

jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid

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May 4, 2002, 8:32:21 AM5/4/02
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On Fri, 03 May 2002 09:55:53 -0500, Trey Monsour
<NO_SPAM_...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Philip. The "preview" option has nothing to do with whether autocad shows
>you _details_ or _list_ view in your "open" dialog box. The "preview"
>option just shows a thumbnail on the right side of the box... the other
>options are more of a toggle between "list" and "details". If you prefer
>the detail view, change it within the open dialog box (in the upper right
>there is a "VIEWS" button) as well as un-checking the 'preview' option -
>then open a drawing, zoom or something so that when you go to close autocad,
>it will ask you to save the changes. Do so, and then re-open acad, and then
>go to open a file. See what happens. You should come back to autocad with
>an 'open' dialog that is set to the view you like, and without the preview
>pane on the right.

Nice one Trey - but I still can't get Acad to show icons in place of
file names in the file `open dialogue.

Philip, are you by any chance talking about the Design Centre?

Trey Monsour

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May 6, 2002, 9:54:05 AM5/6/02
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<snip>

>Nice one Trey - but I still can't get Acad to show icons in place of
>file names in the file `open dialogue.
<end snip>


I'm not sure what you mean by that... you mean LARGE icons? If so, you
wont be able to no matter what you do. You have two options... list and
details. The only other option is the preview pane, but that's independent
of the 'view' style.


-Trey-

jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid

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May 6, 2002, 3:57:53 PM5/6/02
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Neither am I. :-(
I'm referring to Phillip's second posting.
He's talking about icons; I'm saying I can't make Acad show icons.
Thanks for showing how to turn off the previews but I think I'll stick
to showing them.

Trey Monsour

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May 6, 2002, 5:12:24 PM5/6/02
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John, Now i'm totally confused.


Philip was the original poster here and this is what he asked:

<snip>


if there was any way to change the default view in the
open dialogue box in AutoCAD 2002 from 'Preview' to 'List'.

<end snip>

You then said:

<snip>


It's a Windows Explorer setting.
If you like Explorer to show you icons, that's what you'll get.
Set Explorer to show Details in all windows.

<end snip>

Philip then said:

<snip>


Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work. I've
got windows set to view all folders as a list but AutoCAD is still showing
the icons as a preview.

<end snip>

I said:

<snip>


The "preview" option has nothing to do with whether autocad shows
you _details_ or _list_ view in your "open" dialog box. The "preview"
option just shows a thumbnail on the right side of the box... the other
options are more of a toggle between "list" and "details". If you prefer
the detail view, change it within the open dialog box (in the upper right
there is a "VIEWS" button) as well as un-checking the 'preview' option -
then open a drawing, zoom or something so that when you go to close autocad,
it will ask you to save the changes. Do so, and then re-open acad, and then
go to open a file. See what happens. You should come back to autocad with
an 'open' dialog that is set to the view you like, and without the preview
pane on the right.

<end snip>

You then replied:

<snip>
Nice one Trey - but I still can't get Acad to show icons in place of
file names in the file `open dialogue.

Philip, are you by any chance talking about the Design Centre?
<end snip>

the rest is below here... but what I cant figure out is who is asking the
questions here, and what questions are being asked. As far as I know there
is NO setting in windows that causes explorer or 'my computer' or anything
of that nature to display icons with no text - the file name is ALWAYS
there, large icons, small icons, list, details, preview, thumbnail, etc.
Besides that, he explicitly mentioned the 'file open' dialog, not the design
center.

So, if you would be so kind, please explain what's going on here, and what
we are trying to accomplish... :)

thanks,
Trey

Philip Las Gourgues

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May 7, 2002, 1:39:06 AM5/7/02
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Hi Trey,

I see what you mean about the preview option having nothing to do with the
file viewing settings. My open dialogue seems to have three ways of showing
the files to be opened. The default view every time is large icons which is
I think what John was wanting. If I select either 'list' or 'details' from
the menu in the top right it changes to that view but only for that time
that the dialogue is open. Also if I toggle the preview option on and off it
defaults back to the large icons. I'd much rather either list or details
because you can see a lot more files in the window and it's easier to pick
the one you want.

Sorry for the delay in replying.

Thanks,

Phil

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Trey Monsour

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May 7, 2002, 10:11:19 AM5/7/02
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<snip>

>My open dialogue seems to have three ways of showing
>the files to be opened. The default view every time is large icons which is
>I think what John was wanting. If I select either 'list' or 'details' from
<end snip>

what version of acad are you using? I'm using 2002 and all i have is list
or details and the preview option (on or off). I've used every version
since r10 and I never remember having the option to view large icons in the
file-open dialog box.

-Trey-

jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid

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May 7, 2002, 3:51:32 PM5/7/02
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Trey -
I was quite happy as I was. It was Phillp's "but AutoCAD is still
showing the icons as a preview" that made me think I was missing
something.
His "if I toggle the preview option on and off it defaults back to the
large icons" now makes me think his "icons" are our "preview".

Cheers

Tim

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May 7, 2002, 3:59:31 PM5/7/02
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If you right click in the file display window like you would in explorer,
the options are there (thumbnails, tiles, icons, list, & details). That's
probably what he's referring to ???

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Trey Monsour

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May 7, 2002, 4:56:56 PM5/7/02
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Well, we are starting to get somewhere now, but I still have one problem. I
just opened my "file open" dialog, right clicked in a blank area and got the
little 'context menu' that you get in windows explorer... When I went to the
"view" flyout, my options were "large icons" "small icons" "list" "details"
"thumbnails"... I'm using Windows 2000 Pro, AutoCAD 2002 ... So I'm still
wondering what the "icons" are... It must be a Windows XP thing...

Either way, I think I might finally know what he means... the "file open"
dialog has it's OWN "view" menu... and that menu contains only two view
options - LIST and DETAILS... and then there's the preview toggle (on /
off). If he's right clicking to get to the "ICONS" view option, he's
actually accessing the windows operating system shell command menu which
does not have an association with AutoCAD's system settings. So, while
accessing that option within the open dialog, it's not going to retain that
setting because that dialog is not part of windows... it's part of AutoCAD.

You think that might be what is happening?

-Trey-

Philip Las Gourgues

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May 8, 2002, 12:44:21 AM5/8/02
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I've copied a few messages together here to try to explain what I'm getting
at. Thanks for all the help so far everyone. It's great to have so many
people willing to try and help you out.

"Trey Monsour" <NO_SPAM_...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> what version of acad are you using? I'm using 2002 and all i have is list
> or details and the preview option (on or off). I've used every version
> since r10 and I never remember having the option to view large icons in
the
> file-open dialog box.

I'm using AutoCAD 2002 running under Windows XP Pro. I don't have the option
for icons in my menu either. The just seem to come up by default. The view
changes to 'Details' or 'List' if I select it from the menu that is part of
the AutoCAD open dialogue but it defaults back to the icons again every
time.

> Well, we are starting to get somewhere now, but I still have one problem.
I
> just opened my "file open" dialog, right clicked in a blank area and got
the
> little 'context menu' that you get in windows explorer... When I went to
the
> "view" flyout, my options were "large icons" "small icons" "list"
"details"
> "thumbnails"... I'm using Windows 2000 Pro, AutoCAD 2002 ... So I'm still
> wondering what the "icons" are... It must be a Windows XP thing...

I think it must have changed in XP. Now there's "Thumbnails", "Tiles",
"Icons", "List" and "Details". Anyway it doesn't seem to matter which on is
selected in windows or either of the menus available from the AutoCAD open
dialogue it defaults back to "Icons" (which is equivalent to the old "Large
Icons" btw) Windows remembers my settings fine (it stays on the list view
that I've selected) it's just the AutoCAD open dialogue that won't and it's
more important to me than the windows settings.

> Either way, I think I might finally know what he means... the "file open"
> dialog has it's OWN "view" menu... and that menu contains only two view
> options - LIST and DETAILS... and then there's the preview toggle (on /
> off). If he's right clicking to get to the "ICONS" view option, he's
> actually accessing the windows operating system shell command menu which
> does not have an association with AutoCAD's system settings. So, while
> accessing that option within the open dialog, it's not going to retain
that
> setting because that dialog is not part of windows... it's part of
AutoCAD.

I was actually using the AutoCAD menu but it doesn't seem to matter which
one I use. Neither of them will remember my setting. It's driving me nuts
:-)

<jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid> wrote:
>I was quite happy as I was. It was Phillp's "but AutoCAD is still
>showing the icons as a preview" that made me think I was missing
>something.
>His "if I toggle the preview option on and off it defaults back to the
>large icons" now makes me think his "icons" are our "preview".

Sorry, that was just my bad wording. I'm just getting large icons in the
open dialogue instead of the list of names.

What I was getting at by the "if I toggle the preview option on and off it
defaults back to the large icons" comment was that it won't save the
settings of viewing the files as a list instead of large icons. Either
toggling the preview window on the side of the open dialogue on and off or
going up and down folder levels causes the view to default back to large
icons. I can't get rid of the stupid things :-)

Any further help would be greatly appreciated.

Phil


Trey Monsour

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May 8, 2002, 10:36:28 AM5/8/02
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Philip... try this. Open Windows Explorer. Set your current 'view' on
DETAILS. Then, on the "tools" menu, choose "folder options". In there, you
should be able to se the 'view' options for windows... the things like "hide
file extensions for known file types", "hide protected operating system
files", etc. - Set these things as you like. Then, on the top of that tab
there should be a button that you can hit to make all of your windows look
"like current folder" - Hit that button.

My thinking is that the AutoCAD open dialog is acting like a "windows
explorer" and at one time the default view in WinXP was set to "Icons"...
and since there's not a "real" view menu in that dialog, it's never letting
go of the "icons" view. So, if you set Details view in explorer, then tell
all folders to look like that folder, the open dialog in AutoCAD might
change to be "stuck" in detail view. It's worth a try, right?

hope this helps.

-Trey-

Trey Monsour

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May 8, 2002, 12:39:49 PM5/8/02
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I forgot.. there's one more setting that you NEED to make sure to set. The
one that says "remember each folders settings" (or whatever) needs to be set
on so that windows lets EACH folder have it's OWN view settings. I think
this is the thing that's going to make sure that the file-open dialog
remembers to stay at details...

Philip Las Gourgues

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May 12, 2002, 3:20:58 PM5/12/02
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Thanks for the further suggestions. I've tried these things also and it
still won't work. I'm just about ready to re-install AutoCAD out of
frustration.

Phil

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Philip Las Gourgues

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May 12, 2002, 3:22:27 PM5/12/02
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately it didn't seem to work either. I'm
just about ready to re-install AutoCAD and see if that does any good.

Phil

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> Sorry to come into this late but maybe this will work for you.
>
> Right-click Start , click Explore , and then click drive C.
>
> On the View menu, click Details .
>
> Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold down the CTRL
> key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking Close in the upper-right
> corner of the screen.
>
> Release the CTRL key.
>
> Restart your computer.
>
> NOTE : You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For
> example, do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File menu.
>
> This has sorted problems for me before.
>
> Good luck
>
> D. Taylor
>


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