DeathSnow!!
Hidden Draggin
(Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
DeathSnow!!
(Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
(By specific direction, the is NOT a SNOWGASM)
Poor Wilson!! Will he survive? Will Obama come
and pull him out? Does he even have electricity?
It is the all singing, all dancing Blizzard of 2010!
All men, prepare to evacuate to your sheds!!
--
Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
CEO of the Brown and Mushy Corporation
http://hiddendraggin.posterous.com/
Wilson
"Hidden Draggin" <an...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DeathSnow!!!
> (Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
> DeathSnow!!
> (Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
>
> (By specific direction, the is NOT a SNOWGASM)
>
> Poor Wilson!! Will he survive? Will Obama come
> and pull him out? Does he even have electricity?
>
> It is the all singing, all dancing Blizzard of 2010!
>
> All men, prepare to evacuate to your sheds!!
Just to recap. We had 25"+ on ... God, I forget what day it was, but it
was the previous snow just a few days ago.
Now according to the TV we have another 20" reported locally and it's
still coming down. For added drama, we also have tropical storm force
winds (50+ mph gusts). And this is a dry snow so there have already been
reports of drifts over 6-ft high.
They have started shutting down some of the interstates in Pennsylvania
just north of me by pilling snow in front of the entrance ramps so
people can't get on. And Delaware just to the east has declared an
emergency and banned all travel on *ALL* roads.
It is a record breaking year for this area. More snow has fallen this
winter than any time since records have been kept. And there's still a
few weeks to go!
Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
--
Wilson
Lee Frank
"Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:6qednRRtTb4WuO7W...@supernews.com...
you apparently have no
respect for your dick.
Nobody in Particular
When it's *really* cold, there's no snow; the air can't hold much
moisture. As the temperature rises, not only can the air hold more
moisture, the evaporation from the ocean also increases. So you'll
get more precipitation and more powerful storms. Exactly what's
happening.
Hidden Draggin
I hope you are OK...there are reports of roofs collapsing in
Baltimore from the weight of snow...hope you keep your power.
My old home town in Jersey got a forecast of 16 inches today.
Last time we had snow like that was the late 70's.
Wilson
"Lee Frank" wrote...
>
> "Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote ...
>>
>> Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
>>
>
> you apparently have no
> respect for your dick.
It was a metaphor!
--
Wilson
Wilson
"Nobody in Particular" wrote...
> Wilson wrote:
>> Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
>
> When it's *really* cold, there's no snow; the air can't hold much
> moisture. As the temperature rises, not only can the air hold more
> moisture, the evaporation from the ocean also increases. So you'll
> get more precipitation and more powerful storms. Exactly what's
> happening.
It's been much colder around here this winter too, so there goes your
theory. Weather is not climate and not everything that happens is
evidence for global warming (or evidence against it either).
It's almost *never* too cold in this part of the country to snow. Our
big snows always start in the Gulf of Mexico and then move up the coast.
If they run too far west we don't get as much snow. If they run right
on the edge of the coast, they can pick up even more moisture from the
Atlantic and drag it inland as snow if it's cold enough. That's what
the last two did.
Big snowfall in this part of the country seems to run on approximately 7
year cycles. Someday I'll take the time to correlate it with El
Whatsits and see how it fits.
--
Wilson
Wilson
"Hidden Draggin" wrote...
> Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
>
> I hope you are OK...there are reports of roofs collapsing in
> Baltimore from the weight of snow...hope you keep your power.
> My old home town in Jersey got a forecast of 16 inches today.
> Last time we had snow like that was the late 70's.
I'm okay, just more grumpy than usual. It took me 6 hours to clear the
snow at my house from last storm. After I finish up here I'll have to
go down to do my business too. That will probably take a couple of days
unless I can find a skid loader to rent.
Maybe I'll just wait for it to melt.
--
Wilson
Keynes
Same as it ever was, eh?
Kirsten
>
> Just to recap. We had 25"+ on ... God, I forget what day it was, but it
> was the previous snow just a few days ago.
>
> Now according to the TV we have another 20" reported locally and it's
> still coming down. For added drama, we also have tropical storm force
> winds (50+ mph gusts). And this is a dry snow so there have already been
> reports of drifts over 6-ft high.
>
> They have started shutting down some of the interstates in Pennsylvania
> just north of me by pilling snow in front of the entrance ramps so
> people can't get on. And Delaware just to the east has declared an
> emergency and banned all travel on *ALL* roads.
>
> It is a record breaking year for this area. More snow has fallen this
> winter than any time since records have been kept. And there's still a
> few weeks to go!
>
> Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
>
OK, so it might be...just might be...as bad as Canada there.
You may need to declare General Order 13 and evacuate. Is your
snowmobile prepared?
Best wishes
Kirsten
Kirsten
> DeathSnow!!!
> (Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
> DeathSnow!!
> (Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
>
> (By specific direction, the is NOT a SNOWGASM)
>
> Poor Wilson!! Will he survive? Will Obama come
> and pull him out? Does he even have electricity?
>
> It is the all singing, all dancing Blizzard of 2010!
>
> All men, prepare to evacuate to your sheds!!
>
You know, Mr "It's so cold the tropical lizards are dying", I suspect
you're enjoying this.
(Snow falling here too...)
Best wishes
Kirsten
Love
Wil...@nowhere.net says...
Yeah! Climate change -- bring it on!
So we gonna get some jpegs?
--
Love
May Shai-Hulud clear the path before you.
Love
>
>DeathSnow!!!
>(Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
>DeathSnow!!
>(Heavy Metal Jingle Bells)
>
>(By specific direction, the is NOT a SNOWGASM)
>
>Poor Wilson!! Will he survive? Will Obama come
>and pull him out? Does he even have electricity?
>
>It is the all singing, all dancing Blizzard of 2010!
>
>All men, prepare to evacuate to your sheds!!
Wilson should really develop and market the climate-change-era
equivalent of the cold-war-era bomb shelter. It would be a
shed with an extreme snow-load rating and enough insulation
to keep the inside warm by body heat alone, or cool by virtue
of not letting the air outside warm it up. It would also
be able to float like a boat.
Love
kir...@dontspamplz.com says...
>
>Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Just to recap. We had 25"+ on ... God, I forget what day it was, but it
>> was the previous snow just a few days ago.
>>
>> Now according to the TV we have another 20" reported locally and it's
>> still coming down. For added drama, we also have tropical storm force
>> winds (50+ mph gusts). And this is a dry snow so there have already been
>> reports of drifts over 6-ft high.
>>
>> They have started shutting down some of the interstates in Pennsylvania
>> just north of me by pilling snow in front of the entrance ramps so
>> people can't get on. And Delaware just to the east has declared an
>> emergency and banned all travel on *ALL* roads.
>>
>> It is a record breaking year for this area. More snow has fallen this
>> winter than any time since records have been kept. And there's still a
>> few weeks to go!
>>
>> Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
>>
>
>OK, so it might be...just might be...as bad as Canada there.
Actually I think the organisers in Vancouver are requesting that
snow be trucked up from the DC area.
Love
Key...@earthlinkspam.net says...
Letting the days go by, eh?
Lee Frank
your dick was a metaphor?
what the hell is it now?
Tang Huyen
Lee Frank wrote:
> your dick was a metaphor?
> what the hell is it now?
Late yesterday (Wednesday) afternoon, there
were reports in the New York Times,
Washington Post and Los Angeles Times about
the torture inflicted upon a prisoner (presumably,
of war) who spent time at Guantanamo. They
largely passed without much notice.
Washington Post:
<<The information, from a judge's summary of
a classified CIA report to British authorities
about Binyam Mohamed, said he was subjected
to "cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment
during interrogations in Pakistan in 2002 that
included him being shackled and deprived of
sleep while interrogators played upon "his fears
of being removed from United States custody
and 'disappearing.' "
Seven paragraphs of information were read in
court and posted on the [British] Foreign
Office's Web site.>>
<<Miliband said he spoke with Secretary of
State Hillary Rodham Clinton about the case on
Tuesday night, and that the British government
now "accepts" Wednesday's Court of Appeal
decision to release the information because a
similar version had already been made public
during a U.S. court hearing for Farhi Saeed bin
Mohammed, another detainee at Guantanamo
Bay, Cuba.
Mohamed, 31, was born in Ethiopia and lives in
Britain.
Arrested in Pakistan in 2002, Mohamed claims
he was tortured by American authorities and
others under U.S. instruction there and in
Morocco. He says he was beaten with a leather
strap, subjected to a mock execution and sliced
with a scalpel on his chest and penis. Mohamed
claims Britain knew about his torture because,
he says, information used on him during his
questioning could have come only from British
intelligence. He spent seven years in detention,
four of them at Guantanamo.
U.S. officials said Mohamed had planned to
blow up American apartment buildings, but
those charges were later dropped. He was the
first person to be released from the U.S.
military prison at Guantanamo by the Obama
administration, and he returned to Britain last
February.>>
New York Times:
<<What was starkly new, however, was the
Foreign Office�s conclusion that the treatment
Mr. Mohamed endured, had it been carried out
at the behest of British officials, would have
amounted to a breach of Britain�s international
treaty commitments banning torture.
�Although it is not necessary for us to categorize
the treatment reported, it could readily be
contended to be at the very least cruel, inhuman
and degrading treatment by the United States
authorities,� the document posted on the Foreign
Office Web site said.>>
Los Angeles Times:
<<The seven paragraphs did not address more
serious torture allegations by Mohamed, who
says that he was severely beaten, left in stress
positions and his genitals were sliced with a
scalpel during repeated interrogations after his
arrest in Pakistan. His lawyers say those
sessions took place under U.S. auspices, but the
nationalities of the interrogators remain unclear.>>
Tang Huyen
Keynes
Wife said to fat husband,"You need to diet."
He said,"Omigawd. What color is it now?"
Wilson
"Love" wrote...
> kir...@dontspamplz.com says...
>>
>>OK, so it might be...just might be...as bad as Canada there.
>
> Actually I think the organisers in Vancouver are requesting that
> snow be trucked up from the DC area.
Lovely!
Actually it is kind of pretty outside this morning. The sun is shining,
I'm inside drinking my coffee and yes, YES it has stopped snowing.
I'll resume my grumpy mood shortly when I put on the insulated overalls
and boots and head out into the white death.
--
Wilson
Wilson
"Love" <pho...@address.for.spam> wrote in message
news:395e7$4b73ca6d$4038ecbe$18...@PRIMUS.CA...
Well shit, why don't you ask me to make it fly as well?
--
Wilson
DT
Good place to start:
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ensoyears.shtml
DT
DT
This is not my beautiful shed. Eh?
DT
DT
I was just about to suggest that...
DT
Benjamin
And I definitely did not dig out my beautfiul car this morning.
DT
From the age of the dinosaurs
Cars have run on gasoline...
DT
Benjamin
I really enjoyed it this morning as well doing almost exactly the same
thing. We didn't get the pummeling you all did last week, so I only had
to deal with 14 inches or so.
The walk to the train was nice though and sun was warm on my face.
Ben
Hidden Draggin
It should also have an attachment to give orgasms.
You should be able to sell the Orgasmo-shed rather
easily. (You make big money on the sale of moist
towellettes)
Lee Frank
"Tang Huyen" <tanghuyen{delete}@gmail.com[remove]> wrote in message
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during ww2 hitler's nazis would take a
slender glass tube and insert it into a prisoner's
urethra in his penis and then shatter it. fun for
the whole family.
Lee Frank
"Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
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henna color. henna
color at all.
Wally Chapman
Frozen, probably. A dicksicle.
Wally
Wally Chapman
And put really big tailfins on it!
Wally
Hidden Draggin
She told me it was cherry, but it tasted more like the pits.
Nobody in Particular
>
> during ww2 hitler's nazis would take a
> slender glass tube and insert it into a prisoner's
> urethra in his penis and then shatter it. fun for
> the whole family.
First time i heard that story ascribed to the nazis. I always heard it
about Catherine the Great.
Lee Frank
"Wally Chapman" <shel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:HoednUzAI5W07unW...@bright.net...
so it's not only women
who can be frigid?
Lee Frank
> Wally Chapman wrote:
>> Lee Frank wrote:
>>>
>>> "Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ee2dnVZc9JPgyO7W...@supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Lee Frank" wrote...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck Al Gore! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you apparently have no
>>>>> respect for your dick.
>>>>
>>>> It was a metaphor!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wilson
>>>
>>> your dick was a metaphor?
>>> what the hell is it now?
>>
>> Frozen, probably. A dicksicle.
>
> She told me it was cherry, but it tasted more like the pits.
not only that but my GPS
went on the fritz from the
very first lick.
Nobody in Particular
Any data about correlation to snowfall?
Lee Frank
"Nobody in Particular" <nob...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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apparently a popular form
of recreational distraction.
Déjà Fu
The Chrysler Ressurection!
Déjà Fu
The corkscrew penis obviously evolved to prevent this,
hence the colloquial phrase, "fuck a duck".
Keynes
NASA is retiring the shuttles.
Now they're going to launch '57 Chebbies.
I so want one.
Déjà Fu
Mom had a Chrysler New Yorker 2dr - the fins started
at the headlights. Closest thing to an earth-shuttle
ever made.
Wilson
"Benjamin" wrote...
> Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Actually it is kind of pretty outside this morning. The sun is
>> shining, I'm inside drinking my coffee and yes, YES it has stopped
>> snowing.
>>
>> I'll resume my grumpy mood shortly when I put on the insulated
>> overalls and boots and head out into the white death.
>>
>
> I really enjoyed it this morning as well doing almost exactly the same
> thing. We didn't get the pummeling you all did last week, so I only
> had to deal with 14 inches or so.
>
> The walk to the train was nice though and sun was warm on my face.
A little adversity makes life sweeter. The 14 inches sounds like just
enough.
After clearing my driveway yet again, I put on my showshoes and hiked
the 30 feet up hill to the back yard and found that there is, in fact a
30 inch snowpack there. Considering that the first snow had time to
compact we probably got close to three feet in the last two storms
combined.
JPEGs coming. But not today, I'm tired.
--
Wilson
Kirsten
>
> A little adversity makes life sweeter. The 14 inches sounds like just
> enough.
>
> After clearing my driveway yet again, I put on my showshoes and hiked
> the 30 feet up hill to the back yard and found that there is, in fact a
> 30 inch snowpack there. Considering that the first snow had time to
> compact we probably got close to three feet in the last two storms
> combined.
>
> JPEGs coming. But not today, I'm tired.
>
Crikey, you are totally snowed in. Best get that helipad ready for when
the food runs out in (I'm assuming) 6 months
Best wishes
Kirsten
Love
Key...@earthlinkspam.net says...
Hell, I want a used shuttle. I know a woman who bought a
used sleeper car to use for a cottage. I could one-up
her with a shuttle.
--
Love
May Shai-Hulud clear the path before you.
Wilson
news:adCdneKX098HhejW...@giganews.com...
They had to bring in a big front-end-loader to get my road cleared of
drifts, which they did around 2:PM yesterday. So mobility has been
restored.
But if it doesn't warm up soon, we could be looking at glaciation.
--
Wilson
DT
Haven't located an easy graph or chart yet, but:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=21664
http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/nbh/2010/02/07-46/Blame-record-snowfall-on-El-Nino.html
Googling snowfall and "el nino" gets over a million hits. You might
look for historic snowfall data in your area, and just see how the
big/little years correspond with the red/blue years on the chart.
DT
Nobody in Particular
Thanks.
Love
Wil...@nowhere.net says...
I think we had a plan for that. Something like "everyone
run to Dale's place."
daletx
As they used to say on tv: "Come on down!" Just keep in mind that while
y'all've got blizzards, we're into the monsoon season. That two-year
drought started breaking in September; since the first of the year we're
getting 1-2" of rain a week. Walking across my yard is like walking on
a sponge.
DT
Kirsten
>> I think we had a plan for that. Something like "everyone
>> run to Dale's place."
>
> As they used to say on tv: "Come on down!" Just keep in mind that while
> y'all've got blizzards, we're into the monsoon season. That two-year
> drought started breaking in September; since the first of the year we're
> getting 1-2" of rain a week. Walking across my yard is like walking on
> a sponge.
>
> DT
Party at Dale's place! I'll stick it on Facebook - who is bringing the keg?
Best wishes
Kirsten
Kitty P
"daletx" <dal...@gnusguy.com> wrote in message
news:hl6be...@news6.newsguy.com...
Oregon, especially the N. coast, is experiencing a beautiful spring.
Flowers are blooming. There are even days when we don't need a rain coat. I
have hesitated mentioning it because of the all the weather woes elsewhere.
Kitty
Kitty
Kitty P
I'll bring tequilla. I am trying to imagine his GF's face if we all showed
up. Makes me giggle.
Kitty
Wilson
"Kitty P" <kitty...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>
> "daletx" <dal...@gnusguy.com> wrote ...
>>
>> As they used to say on tv: "Come on down!" Just keep in mind that
>> while y'all've got blizzards, we're into the monsoon season. That
>> two-year drought started breaking in September; since the first of
>> the year we're getting 1-2" of rain a week. Walking across my yard
>> is like walking on a sponge.
>>
>> DT
>
> Oregon, especially the N. coast, is experiencing a beautiful spring.
> Flowers are blooming. There are even days when we don't need a rain
> coat. I have hesitated mentioning it because of the all the weather
> woes elsewhere.
>
> Kitty
That reminds me to ask you: When does your spring usually start? Last
year I saw Washington Apples in the store in May or so, which kind of
blew my mind. I hadn't realized you guys were so temperate.
--
Wilson
Kitty P
Washington apples are picked all through the late summer and all through
fall (they need cold winters with some freezing to produce well believe it
or not) - I'm guessing you might be seeing ones that were stored correctly
and I'm afraid waxed. They are available year round now. But it is rare to
get snow or even a freeze after January 18 (in Oregon anyway). This year the
spring flowers like snow drops, crocus, and rhododendrons started blooming
in mid-January rather than February because it was extra temperate this
winter.
It was so warm the brown pelicans got confused and didn't bother to migrate
south and a lot of them have been dying from starvation because their rather
fussy diet is seasonal here. Climate changes are confusing the hell out of
nature.
Kitty
daletx
Greaaat! We finally get 'em off the Endangered Species List, and y'all
let 'em starve. ;-)
Whooping cranes aren't doing too well this winter, either. Between the
drought and the cities suckin' water out of the rivers, the bays are
saltier than usual, and blue crab (the crane's main diet) production was
way down last year.
DT
Love
kir...@dontspamplz.com says...
I will. Y'all don't wanna hafta drink no Murkin suds.
Love
says...
Tell nature it's just a hoax.
Kirsten
>
> Whooping cranes aren't doing too well this winter, either.
You may need to call on the spirit of Wematanye.
Sorry, an oblique King of the Hill joke there.
Best wishes
Kirsten
Kitty P
"Love" <pho...@address.for.spam> wrote in message
You know you can show a pelican grafts and charts but they just don't stay
told.
Kitty
Wilson
>
> "Love" <pho...@address.for.spam> wrote ...
>>
>> Tell nature it's just a hoax.
>
> stay told.
Soon the truth will be known. Pelican graft is behind the AGW hoax!
--
Wilson
leebert
You are now the man that knows too much.
/l
Wally Chapman
Jackie Chan's next flick - Grafting the Pelican.
Wally
Love
<1676848c-c447-4555...@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
sregd...@gmail.com says...
>
>On Feb 14, 9:58=A0am, "Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> "Kitty P" wrote...
>>
>> > "Love" <pho...@address.for.spam> wrote ...
>>
>> >> Tell nature it's just a hoax.
>>
>> > You know you can show a pelican grafts and charts but they just don't
>> > stay told.
>>
>
>You are now the man that knows too much.
Or from "The Arrival": "and now you're dead"
DT
A wonderful bird is a pelican,
His bill will hold more than his belican.
He can take in his beak
Food enough for a week;
But I'm damned if I see how the helican.--Dixon Lanire Merritt
DT
(which I've evidently been misattributing to Ogden Nash all these years)
DT
Hadda go google that one up on the wiki, I tell you what.
We of the Order of the Straight Arrow call upon the spirit Wematanye,
protector of the sacred ground that brings us cool water to drink and
energy-efficient clean-burning propane gas for all our sacred heating
and cooking needs. Wematanye says, respect the earth! She's ours, by
God, our taxes pay for Her. Also, it says here you gotta love all Her
creatures. Let's see...oh, here we go: Though we walk through the valley
of the shadow of death, you're gonna recommend us to the spirit in the
sky, with liberty and justice for all. Wematanye is with you, and with
Texas. Amen.
Hell, yeah!
DT
Kirsten
Hell yeah!
Best wishes
Kirsten
Tang Huyen
Tang Huyen wrote: <<>>
Yesterday the Justice Department issued a final
report on the "torture memos" written by high
official formerly in the same Department under
Bush. In it was this passage, between a questioner
and John Yoo (now Professor of Law at
Berkeley), as posted by Hufffington Post (the
square brackets belong to the report):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/19/
justice-department-report_n_469608.html
Q: What about ordering a village of resistants to
be massacred? ... Is that a power that the
President could legally -
A: Yeah. Although let me say this. So, certainly
that would fall within the Commander-in-Chief's
power over tactical decisions.
Q: To order a village of civilians to be
[exterminated]?
A: Sure.
****** End of quote.
Also, a week ago, the Washington Post had an
article on two online pages:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/
article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204911.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/
article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204911_2.html?sid
=ST2010021301326
<<The government also relied on Hatim's
interrogations and his testimony at military
hearings, during which he is said to have admitted
to training at an al-Qaeda military camp. Judges
have been skeptical of such statements unless the
government provides evidence that the men were
not seriously mistreated. In Hatim's case, the
Justice Department did not dispute his contention
that he was tortured in U.S. custody and that he
made those admissions to avoid further
mistreatment.>>
<<Musa'ab al-Madhwani had admitted to
interrogators and testified before military hearings
that he had trained at an al-Qaeda camp and
traveled with its members in Afghanistan and
Pakistan, records show.
But the detainees' attorneys argued that the
statements were tainted because their client was
brutally tortured while in U.S. custody before
his arrival in Cuba. He confessed only to prevent
further mistreatment, they argued. The
government did not contest Madhwani's claims.>>
<<Binyam Mohamed...provided the government
its most sensational allegation: He told
interrogators that the Algerian trained at an
al-Qaeda camp in Afghanistan. Kessler wrote
that she could not credit Mohamed's allegations
because he had been mistreated in foreign and
U.S. custody. The government did not dispute his
well-publicized accounts of torture.>>
So the US government did not dispute claims of
torture against prisoners of war.
Tang Huyen
Lee Rudolph
>So the US government did not dispute claims of
>torture against prisoners of war.
The best part is, they managed to achieve this without (as
far as I know) the involvement of any Zen masters, Japanese
or otherwise!
Where there's a will there's a way, I always say.
Lee Rudolph
Tang Huyen
Lee Rudolph wrote:
> Tang Huyen:
>
> >So the US government did not dispute claims
> >of torture against prisoners of war.
>
> The best part is, they managed to achieve this
> without (as far as I know) the involvement of
> any Zen masters, Japanese or otherwise!
>
> Where there's a will there's a way, I always
> say.
There's nothing new under the sun, Jewish
wisdom says. Besides, any Japanese Samurai
and especially any Japanese Samurai trained
by a Japanese Zen Master in a Japanese
Zendo would never be caught dead only
(partially) slicing a man's penis with a scalpel.
Tang Huyen