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Budikka666
Nov 23, 2012, 12:06:52 PM11/23/12
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Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
gospel!
That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
fantatically when it suits them to do that.
You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
Budikka
the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
gospel!
That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
fantatically when it suits them to do that.
You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
Budikka
Eve
Nov 23, 2012, 1:01:57 PM11/23/12
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they do vicious.
--
Adam & Eve
Besque
Nov 23, 2012, 6:28:07 PM11/23/12
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Besque
Nov 23, 2012, 6:31:09 PM11/23/12
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On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
from _YOU_!
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 23, 2012, 6:31:54 PM11/23/12
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But that's all you fundamentalists have.
>> Demons certainly have a way of making their puppets sound as crazy as
>> they do vicious.
But that's all you fundamentalists have.
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 23, 2012, 6:33:14 PM11/23/12
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You aggressively stupid, in-your-face morons who can't live and let
live merely reap what you sow.
And then turn into whining hypocrites.
Besque
Nov 23, 2012, 6:35:52 PM11/23/12
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On 11/23/2012 6:31 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:28:07 -0500, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>>
>> along with all
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Lie noted.
>
So, are you asserting the above is _not_ a kindergarten version? I'm
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:28:07 -0500, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>>
>> along with all
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Lie noted.
>
surprised.
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 23, 2012, 6:44:11 PM11/23/12
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not surprised.
It is simply how non-Christians react to Christians who hide behind
the Bible.
Ralph
Nov 23, 2012, 6:54:24 PM11/23/12
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such as conservative fundamentalists.
Budikka666
Nov 23, 2012, 7:06:26 PM11/23/12
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with it.
But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
time I bring up the topic?
Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
who are hypocrites.
Budikka
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 23, 2012, 7:25:30 PM11/23/12
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The problem is that this subset (at least half in the USA) imagine the
Bible is an accurate history and expect everybody else to, as well.
They're usually the same ones that insist the obvious contradictions
aren't there, that there is evidence outside Christianity that is
never provided, and insist that atheists hold positions which we don't
which they use as ad hominems to avoid addressing points raised.
But even too many non-fundamentalists get un-necessarily defensive
when they discover somebody is an atheist. They seem to feel that
ignoring their beliefs is actively dissing them.
Jope
Nov 23, 2012, 11:18:28 PM11/23/12
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On Nov 23, 7:25 pm, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
wrote:
If you know of any contradictions in the bible,bring them on, so that
they may be explained to you.The bible is rather difficult for the
pagan to understand.
The world existed before mankind .Since man's abilities are the
products of what existed before him,he cannot possibly understand
what existed before him.
There is another realm called spiritual, which is beyond the
senses.That realm originated this world.That realm can only be
apprehended through spiritual means.
"But the nonspiritual man does not accept the revelations of the
Spirit of God, for they are meaningless nonsense to him; and he is
incapable of knowing them, because they are spiritually discerned .
But the spiritual man discerns all things "
1 Corinthians 2 v14-15
wrote:
they may be explained to you.The bible is rather difficult for the
pagan to understand.
The world existed before mankind .Since man's abilities are the
products of what existed before him,he cannot possibly understand
what existed before him.
There is another realm called spiritual, which is beyond the
senses.That realm originated this world.That realm can only be
apprehended through spiritual means.
"But the nonspiritual man does not accept the revelations of the
Spirit of God, for they are meaningless nonsense to him; and he is
incapable of knowing them, because they are spiritually discerned .
But the spiritual man discerns all things "
1 Corinthians 2 v14-15
Zacharias Mulletstein
Nov 24, 2012, 12:42:44 AM11/24/12
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"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
Evidence that God had a beard?
> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Nov 24, 2012, 12:43:25 AM11/24/12
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"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Zacharias Mulletstein
Nov 24, 2012, 12:44:33 AM11/24/12
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100% of athiests hate God so much they're about to pop. There is no
question of this.
question of this.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Nov 24, 2012, 12:45:33 AM11/24/12
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Devils Advocaat
Nov 24, 2012, 2:37:35 AM11/24/12
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On 24 Nov, 05:44, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
Atheists say god doesn't exist.
How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
That would be crazy.
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
That would be crazy.
Joe Bruno
Nov 24, 2012, 6:24:53 AM11/24/12
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On Friday, November 23, 2012 9:06:52 AM UTC-8, Budikka666 wrote:
> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>
> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>
> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
>
> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>
> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
Source?????????????????????
> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>
> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>
> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
>
> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>
> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>
>
>
> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>
> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>
> gospel!
Source??????????????????????????
>
>
> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>
> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>
> gospel!
>
>
>
Caranx latus
Nov 24, 2012, 8:16:40 AM11/24/12
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absolutely pointless to hate that which most likely does not exist.
Caranx latus
Nov 24, 2012, 8:24:16 AM11/24/12
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statement that has no supporting evidence in *exactly* the same way that
"God exists" has no supporting evidence. When an atheist says that God
doesn't exist, they generally know that it is a statement of opinion,
the same way that "God exists" is an opinion.
> How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
>
> That would be crazy.
Devils Advocaat
Nov 24, 2012, 8:28:17 AM11/24/12
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position.
I'm just a simple pragmatic agnostic.
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 8:53:13 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 23, 10:18 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you know of any contradictions in the bible,bring them on, so that
> they may be explained to you.The bible is rather difficult for the
> pagan to understand.
I'll take you up on that offer as long as you agree to formally debate
> If you know of any contradictions in the bible,bring them on, so that
> they may be explained to you.The bible is rather difficult for the
> pagan to understand.
them with me right here in this thread. Your position will be the
assertive for "There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible" I will
take the con.
Do you agree?
Budikka
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 8:54:07 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 23, 11:42 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
You bring your objective independent evidence that there ever was a
creator god and I'll beard you in your layer. Got it now?
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
creator god and I'll beard you in your layer. Got it now?
Budikka
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 8:57:32 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 23, 11:44 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
Once again your mouth exceeds the capacity of yout brain. I hate no
Christians. I pity them, especially the brain-washed losers on
Usenet I detest what they're doing and trying to do to society. I
detest their lies and fraud. I detest their free pass from criticism
in all too many areas. That's what I'm solidly against, and you have
my cast-iron guarantee that I will fight the theist disease until it's
cured. Gott that straight now?
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
Christians. I pity them, especially the brain-washed losers on
Usenet I detest what they're doing and trying to do to society. I
detest their lies and fraud. I detest their free pass from criticism
in all too many areas. That's what I'm solidly against, and you have
my cast-iron guarantee that I will fight the theist disease until it's
cured. Gott that straight now?
Budikka
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 8:59:20 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 24, 5:24 am, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, November 23, 2012 9:06:52 AM UTC-8, Budikka666 wrote:
> > Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
> > the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
> > with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
> > life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
> > sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>
> Source?????????????????????
The Bible. Go look up the meaning of "firmament" numbnuts.
> On Friday, November 23, 2012 9:06:52 AM UTC-8, Budikka666 wrote:
> > Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
> > the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
> > with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
> > life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
> > sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>
> Source?????????????????????
> > The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
> > Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
> > gospel!
>
> Source??????????????????????????
Chrsitian means, jackass. You really are as stupid as you look.
Budikka
Besque
Nov 24, 2012, 10:29:45 AM11/24/12
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On 11/23/2012 7:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
> On Nov 23, 5:28 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>
>> >
>> along with all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>>>> Budikka
>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
> with it.
>
No, this is your strawman concept which you lambast.
> On Nov 23, 5:28 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>
>> >
>> along with all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>>>> Budikka
>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
> with it.
>
>
> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
> time I bring up the topic?
>
If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
> time I bring up the topic?
>
we could hold a discussion. But your infantile understanding
of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room. As I said my
4 year old ask more intelligent questions than you do.
>
> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
>
I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you. I don't know
> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
>
you, I don't care about you, so, why should I try to convert you??
I'm only defending my religion against unwarranted, uncalled for and
unjust attacks.
>
> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
> who are hypocrites.
>
What is real hypocrisy is trying to judge Christians by their own values
> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
> who are hypocrites.
>
when you hold none of these values yourself.
>
> Budikka
>
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 24, 2012, 11:12:16 AM11/24/12
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>> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
>> time I bring up the topic?
> >
>If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
>we could hold a discussion. But your infantile understanding
>of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room. As I said my
>4 year old ask more intelligent questions than you do.
You are incapable of discussing anything because you insist it is from
the presumption that your religion is the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth, to people in the real world outside it.
>> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
>> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
>> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
>> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
> >
>I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you. I don't know
>you, I don't care about you, so, why should I try to convert you??
>I'm only defending my religion against unwarranted, uncalled for and
>unjust attacks.
You are here talking as if your bullshit were the truth in the real
world outside your religion.
Because (quoting Robert Heinlein) you are too stupid to realise that
"one man's religion is another man's belly laugh".
But instead of realising this, you try to "defend" it using more
inside-the-religion stupidity that gets laughed at. - and expect us to
take it seriously.
>> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
>> who are hypocrites.
> >
>What is real hypocrisy is trying to judge Christians by their own values
>when you hold none of these values yourself.
We're not the ones who proclaim that we are supposed to act according
to those values, lying hypocrite.
>> Budikka
What have we done to deserve the current crop of stupid, dishonest,
in-your-face, ignorant Liars For God?
Jope
Nov 24, 2012, 1:28:33 PM11/24/12
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Jope
Nov 24, 2012, 2:10:52 PM11/24/12
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On Nov 24, 12:45 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Ralph" <mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I beg to differ.
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Ralph" <mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 7:15:07 PM11/24/12
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easy one:
Exodus 20:8 demands ""Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy"
But Paul insists in Romans 14:5: "One man esteemeth one day above
another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully
persuaded in his own mind."
So are we supposed to take what is claimed as god's word from one of
his comandments, or do we take Paul's word as very nearly all modern
Christians do - indeed to the extent of favoring it over Jesus's word.
Who is the authority here and how do we *know8 they are the
authority? The knee-jerk reaction is to say that god is, and Paul is
wrong, in which case, why do so-called Christians prefer Paul?
However, we have no evidence whatsoever that any god had anything to
do with what's written in the Bible, so the real issue is do we take
what is purported to be Paul's word over some anonymous scribe who
penned the OT, or what?
Budikka
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 7:28:29 PM11/24/12
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or so years old Earth? Get an education. Before you embarrass
yourself any more, go and get an education - an education as to what's
*really* going on around you; an education about what Christians in
the USA really believe and how they really behave.
> If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
demands and you will not even acknowledge your rejection of the very
god you hypocritically claim to worship.
> we could hold a discussion.
you are flatly refusing to condemn scum like J Young.
> But your infantile understanding
> of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room
DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO GO THE EXTRA MILE OR DOES IT NOT?
DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU NOT TO JUDGE OR DOES IT NOT?
DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO SHAKE OFF THE DUST AND DEPART OR DOES IT
NOT?
ARE YOU IN COMPLETE DENIAL ABOUT WHAT YOUR GOD HAS TOLD YOU TO DO OR
ARE YOU NOT?
Answer the questions instead of running from *every* *single* *one*
*that* *I've* *asked* *of* *you*, you worthless, lowlife, pathetic,
hypocritical coward for Christ. This is not rocket science, These
things are either in the Bible or they are not. Which is it? This is
***according to you*** the word of your own god which *you* are
proudly ignoring.
> I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you
post here. It's that simple. If you were any more dense you'd be a
heavy metal. You're already as toxic as one.
Budikka
Besque
Nov 24, 2012, 7:29:21 PM11/24/12
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On 11/23/2012 6:33 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>
Can you point to one Christian who is a vicious as MS Budkkka666
>
> You aggressively stupid, in-your-face morons who can't live and let
> live merely reap what you sow.
>
I find you on alt.talk.creationism attacking Christians, not the other
way around!
>
> And then turn into whining hypocrites.
>
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:31:09 -0500, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!) along with all
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Demons certainly have a way of making their puppets sound as crazy as
>>> they do vicious.
>>>
>> Most viciousness, one finds is coming _not_ from Christians! It's coming
>>from _YOU_!
>
> Lie noted.
>>> they do vicious.
>>>
>> Most viciousness, one finds is coming _not_ from Christians! It's coming
>>from _YOU_!
>
>
Can you point to one Christian who is a vicious as MS Budkkka666
>
> You aggressively stupid, in-your-face morons who can't live and let
> live merely reap what you sow.
>
I find you on alt.talk.creationism attacking Christians, not the other
way around!
>
> And then turn into whining hypocrites.
>
Besque
Nov 24, 2012, 7:38:30 PM11/24/12
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On 11/23/2012 7:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
> On Nov 23, 5:28 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>
>> >
>> along with all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>>>> Budikka
>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
> with it.
>
No, you have erected your own concept of a god who you are attacking.
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>
>> >
>> along with all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>>>> Budikka
>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
> with it.
>
That's OK with me.
>
> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
> time I bring up the topic?
>
No, I don't care if you attack your own strawman god.
> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
> time I bring up the topic?
>
>
> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
>
Again I'm not proselytizing, you are here on alt Christian religion. So
> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
>
who is engaged in this endeavor!
>
> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
> who are hypocrites.
>
Obviously, you don't know the meaning of hypocrisy! Look it up!
> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
> who are hypocrites.
>
You criticize Christians using their values of honesty, trustworthy,
sincere, kindness, but you don't hold any of those values yourself.
That's hypocracy.
>
> Budikka
>
Budikka666
Nov 24, 2012, 7:39:42 PM11/24/12
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On Nov 24, 6:29 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you point to one Christian who is a vicious as MS Budkkka666
J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
> Can you point to one Christian who is a vicious as MS Budkkka666
to support him and go after those who do condemn him. In my book that
makes you no better than he is. Now do you understand why I think
you're filth? because if you don't, I'll be more than happy to ram it
down your ignorant hypocritical throat until the cows come home.
That's why you're a worthless mess of festering scum.
Got that straight now Besquet case?
Budikka
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 24, 2012, 8:03:48 PM11/24/12
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>> You aggressively stupid, in-your-face morons who can't live and let
>> live merely reap what you sow.
> >
>I find you on alt.talk.creationism attacking Christians, not the other
>way around!
hypocrisy.
It's not my problem so many Christians exhibit those attributes.
And I'm responding to your own dishonesty, stupidity and hypocrisy in
alt.atheism.
Jope
Nov 24, 2012, 8:17:38 PM11/24/12
to
outlined in the old testament, included the mosaic law , animal
sacrifice as well as the observation of the sabbath.Jesus Christ came
first to sabbath observing jews.Even though the new alliance no longer
obliged sabbath keeping ,some jews were having a hard time ,letting
go of the practice .Paul is prescribing tolerance,because that person
is doing it to please God.In the the same spirit Paul discourges
fellow christians from judging those that eat only vegetables.
" He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that
regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that
eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that
eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks."Romans
14v6
Paul also wrote in the book of Colossians :"Let no man therefore
judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holiday, or of the
new moon, or of the sabbath days:Which are a shadow of things to come;
but the body is of Christ."
Colossians 2v 16-17
Christians are saved by virtue of a new alliance that God has made
through Jesus Christ ,which longer include sabbath keeping.because
once in for all the believer enters into the rest of God.
"Again He sets a new day, Today, saying through David after so long a
time in the words already quoted, Today, if you would hear His voice
and when you hear it, do not harden your hearts.
For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not speak afterward about
another day.
So then, there is still awaiting a full and complete Sabbath-rest
reserved for the people of God;
For he who has once entered God’s rest also has ceased from the
weariness and pain of human labors, just as God rested from His
labors .''
Hebrews 4v7-10
That rest mentioned there is that of the soul.When you accept Christ
your soul finds rest and you enter into the true sabbath.
Besque
Nov 24, 2012, 9:32:40 PM11/24/12
to
up anything!
Zacharias Mulletstein
Nov 24, 2012, 9:40:38 PM11/24/12
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"Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Atheists say god doesn't exist.
>
> How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
>
> That would be crazy.
IKR?
>
> How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
>
> That would be crazy.
Smiler
Nov 24, 2012, 10:11:50 PM11/24/12
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--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Budikka666
Nov 25, 2012, 12:38:28 PM11/25/12
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On Nov 24, 7:17 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 7:15 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > Exodus 20:8 demands ""Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy"
>
> > But Paul insists in Romans 14:5: "One man esteemeth one day above
> > another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully
> > persuaded in his own mind."
>
> > So are we supposed to take what is claimed as god's word from one of
> > his comandments, or do we take Paul's word as very nearly all modern
> > Christians do - indeed to the extent of favoring it over Jesus's word.
>
> > Who is the authority here and how do we *know8 they are the
> > authority? The knee-jerk reaction is to say that god is, and Paul is
> > wrong, in which case, why do so-called Christians prefer Paul?
>
> > However, we have no evidence whatsoever that any god had anything to
> > do with what's written in the Bible, so the real issue is do we take
> > what is purported to be Paul's word over some anonymous scribe who
> > penned the OT, or what?
>
> > Budikka
>
> The bible doctrine is divided into two covenants:The old covenant
> outlined in the old testament, included the mosaic law , animal
> sacrifice as well as the observation of the sabbath.
How has this changed in the NT? They still had animal sacrifice in
> On Nov 24, 7:15 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > Exodus 20:8 demands ""Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy"
>
> > But Paul insists in Romans 14:5: "One man esteemeth one day above
> > another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully
> > persuaded in his own mind."
>
> > So are we supposed to take what is claimed as god's word from one of
> > his comandments, or do we take Paul's word as very nearly all modern
> > Christians do - indeed to the extent of favoring it over Jesus's word.
>
> > Who is the authority here and how do we *know8 they are the
> > authority? The knee-jerk reaction is to say that god is, and Paul is
> > wrong, in which case, why do so-called Christians prefer Paul?
>
> > However, we have no evidence whatsoever that any god had anything to
> > do with what's written in the Bible, so the real issue is do we take
> > what is purported to be Paul's word over some anonymous scribe who
> > penned the OT, or what?
>
> > Budikka
>
> The bible doctrine is divided into two covenants:The old covenant
> outlined in the old testament, included the mosaic law , animal
> sacrifice as well as the observation of the sabbath.
the synagogues. Jesus himself said he had not come to change one jot
or tittle of the (Mosaic) law.
>Jesus Christ came
> first to sabbath observing jews.Even though the new alliance no longer
> obliged sabbath keeping ,some jews were having a hard time ,letting
> go of the practice
as you go in the other thread. But if we pretend for a second or two
that what you're inventing here is the truth, why do we read this: "He
went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day
he went into the synagogue, as was his custom." in Luke 4:16?
I snipped the rest of what you posted because it's nothing but
proselytizing Bible quoting and does not even address the challenge I
posed. But here's a better one: why on Earth would an omniscient god
insist that people observe the sabbath and then confusingly change his
mind thereby getting his son into trouble with the law? Why would
Jesus faithfully observe the sabbath as Luke claims, if it were not
important under his "new covenant"?
This is a mixed message at *best* and a clear contradiction at worst.
Here's the next one:
"The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his
works." Psalm145:9
"And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the
sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have
mercy, but destroy them." Jeremiah 13:14
Clearly he isn't "good to all" when people suffer and eventually, if
they do not agree to his eternal enslavement, are sent to rot in hell
*for* *eternity*. These are not the works of a benificent god.
Clearly all his works are not good when people die in floods,
hurricanes, tornadoes, and earthquakes, and when they suffer and die
from the very diseases your creator created, according to Bible
fiction.
Budikka
Jope
Nov 25, 2012, 1:06:01 PM11/25/12
to
impunity,not even once .In order to give mankind a second chance ,God
had to send Jesus into the world.But if you miss that chance ,nothing
can be done anymore to save you.
Even though your body is fragile and temporary .Inside ,you have a
spirit that lasts forever.
Your spirit is the part that will experience eternal torments.
Evil came from the devil and his angels.He was created a powerful and
wise being whom being led by pride ,thought that he was wiser and more
powerful than God himself.He led a third of the angels into a revolt
against his own creator.God smote him and condemned him to hell.
Man was created, in a way ,to eventually fill a void in the
heavenlies .His childlike condition in the garden of eden was
transitory.The devil entered into a serpent and convinced man that God
was lying to him and that it was safe to disobey.Thus evil came into
the world and man came into knowledge, prematurely and full of
questions.
Because the devil has acquired dominion over this world,pain and
suffering abound.
Because man keeps choosing to believe the devil instead of God ,hell
has become an unavoidable destination for many.
Because evil resides in the heart of man ,God hides himself and
requires man to believe and seek while not yet seeing him .
"Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man, and death as
the result of sin, so death spread to all men, because all men
sinned."
Romans 5v12
If a murderer says to a judge: "I am sorry ,I lost my temper,forgive
me ,I will not do it again".Will that judge forgive him?
If a thief says to a judge :" I am sorry ,I was broke,forgive me ,I
will not do it again"Will that judge forgive him?
How then can you expect God ,the righteous judge to simply disregard
crimes?
When man commited the first sin,a profound transformation occured in
his nature.
Because he lusted after that fruit,he became lustful.Because he
wanted to be like gods ,he became proud.Because he did not believe God
who had said to him that he would die,he became an unbeliever and a
sceptic.And because he believed the devil instead of God ,he became
prone to accepting any alternative to the truth.
Yet he is not aware of his condition.
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly
perverse and corrupt and severely, mortally sick! Who can know it?"
Jeremiah 17v9
Even though God is in control, he is powerful enough to create free
will. And it is by using that free will that man brought evil into the
world.
Because God's law cannot be violated,not even once,manking was headed
for eternal darkness and death.
But through Jesus Christ,God has made a way ,by which we can escape
our lawful punishment by becoming identified with his death and
ressurection.
If however we miss this opportunity ,no other option is left.
"How shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? This
salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us
by those who heard him. God also testified to it by signs, wonders
and various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed
according to his will."
Hebrews 2v3-4
"When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to
Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name
of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive
the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children
and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
Acts 2v37-39
Jope
Nov 25, 2012, 2:22:06 PM11/25/12
to
woman,BORN UNDER THE LAW, to redeem those under the law, that we
might receive the full rights of sons." Galatians 4v4-5
In order to redeem mankind,Jesus had to fulfill all the requirements
of the law.He was put to death ,even though he was guiltless.Now he is
able to confer that guiltlesness from the law to those who become
identified with his death.The law of God is unviolable.
sbalneav
Nov 25, 2012, 3:51:15 PM11/25/12
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of slavery, and is petty, spiteful, and generally dickish. Not worth
worshipping, even if he *did* exist.
--
__ _ | If you're rich you can buy books. If you're poor,
(_ |_) | you need a library.
__)|_) | -- John Kenneth Galbraith
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 25, 2012, 4:15:58 PM11/25/12
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nastily wipes in our faces day in and day out.
Budikka666
Nov 25, 2012, 6:51:13 PM11/25/12
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what i said. You lied that the law changed with Jesus which is why
the sabbath wasn't important any more, but that fact is, as I showed
using your own Bible, that the sabbath had not changed. it was
routinely observed by Jesus (according to NT fiction that is), jesus
came to uphld Mosaic law, and therefore you lied.
Here's the next contradiction:
God's word (so-called) in Ecclesiastes1:4 unambiguously states: "...
the earth abideth for ever."
Paul, who founded the very Christianity to which you adhere,
disagrees: "... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth
also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." (2 Peter
3:10)
Another outright contradiciton. Quite obviously, just form these few
Bible quotes, there is a massive gulf between the OT and the NT.
You have, as of now, failed to explain why your god chose to portray
completely opposing views of himself between the two testaments. Why
did he not defeat these criticisms before they could begin by insuring
that the two testaments were in harmony?
You know why? because neither testament is the word of any god, nor
was either inspired by any god.
Budikka
Budikka666
Nov 25, 2012, 7:14:33 PM11/25/12
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thousands of men, women and children so the Hebrews can occupy their
land in any way just? How is creating death-dealing floods,
tornadoes, hurricanes, and earthquakes just? How is creating disease,
predators, and parasites just? How is creating famine just?
If your god wanted the Hebrews to have their own land, then why not
create it especially in the middle of the Pacific and give it solely
to the Israelites? Why not give them their own planet?
Your god as portrayed in the OT is a vicious barbarian god who deals
deal and misery, and that's *all* he is. Don;t imagine for a minute
that any thinking person would want to spend eternity with such a god.
>.The law of God cannot be violated with
> impunity,not even once
exercise thereof will be met with torture and death formy oru loving
god! lol!
> In order to give mankind a second chance
(supposedly) created humans has according to you, condemned thousands
of people to eternal torture in hell. if your god had created no one,
then *no one* would be in hell. Your god is entirely and solely
responsinle for every soul in hell. Fortunately for your crazy
beliefs, there is no such place.
> ,God
> had to send Jesus into the world.
initiating 2,000 years of religious wars - wars which would never have
taken place had there been no Jesus. How is someone supposed to
portray love by being crucified? And how was it even a sacrifice
since he was the son of a god and couldn't die anyway? How was anyone
supposed to know he had "overcome death" if he snuck around afterwards
hiding from everyone?
None of your story makes any sense whatsoever - if you actually think
*outside* the box that you have blindly trapped yourself in.
> But if you miss that chance ,nothing
> can be done anymore to save you.
believed your god was real I would reject him. I do not wish in any
way at all to spend eternity with the likes of you, or with scum like
Dumb-ass Duke, or Andrew-a-Blank or with J Young. You need to
understand that. If I were offered free passage to heaven I would
refuse it. Who wants to spend eternity in slavery? That, to me, is
hell.
> Even though your body is fragile and temporary .Inside ,you have a
> spirit that lasts forever.
but to classify as lies, since you obviously cannot provide an ounce
of support for your nonsense despite several requests for some. This
is why I abuse Christians because I have yet to meet one who can make
a supported case for what you claim, and every last one of you insults
my intelligence by insisting without any evidence whatsoever, that all
this bullshit is true and I will rot in hell if I don't take *your*
word - nto any gods word, but *your* word for it. LOL!
> Your spirit is the part that will experience eternal torments.
with lowlife scum like J Young.
[Rest of your proselytizing deleted unread]
You post one more vacuous bullshit response like this, failing to
support your claims, and ignoring what I've posted in response in
order that you can preach some more, and this exchange is over and you
go on the trrash heap alogn wiht those scum I listed above. This is
your final warning. Got that? How are you going to covert me if I'm
no longer listening to you because you have FAILED dismally as a
witness? Huh? Think about that.
Support it or abort it.
Budikka
Besque
Nov 27, 2012, 4:34:32 PM11/27/12
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>> Can you point to one Christian who is as vicious as MS Budkkka666
support of someone I've never heard of.
I believe either you are making stuff up or confusing me with someone
else. I suspect the latter.
>
> J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
> to support him and go after those who do condemn him.
>
Who is J. Young and what have I said in support of him?
> J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
> to support him and go after those who do condemn him.
>
>
In my book that
> makes you no better than he is. Now do you understand why I think
> you're filth? because if you don't, I'll be more than happy to ram it
> down your ignorant hypocritical throat until the cows come home.
>
> That's why you're a worthless mess of festering scum.
>
Your whole case here is based on something I supposedly said or did in
In my book that
> makes you no better than he is. Now do you understand why I think
> you're filth? because if you don't, I'll be more than happy to ram it
> down your ignorant hypocritical throat until the cows come home.
>
> That's why you're a worthless mess of festering scum.
>
support of someone I've never heard of.
I believe either you are making stuff up or confusing me with someone
else. I suspect the latter.
Budikka666
Nov 27, 2012, 4:56:25 PM11/27/12
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On Nov 27, 3:34 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/2012 7:39 PM, Budikka666 wrote:> On Nov 24, 6:29 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Can you point to one Christian who is as vicious as MS Budkkka666
>
> > J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
> > to support him and go after those who do condemn him.
>
> >
> Who is J. Young and what have I said in support of him?
That fact that you have to ask means you are well and truly beyond
> On 11/24/2012 7:39 PM, Budikka666 wrote:> On Nov 24, 6:29 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Can you point to one Christian who is as vicious as MS Budkkka666
>
> > J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
> > to support him and go after those who do condemn him.
>
> >
> Who is J. Young and what have I said in support of him?
stupid.
Try opening your eyes you worthless piece of hypocritical trash.
PS I don't give a flying fuck what you believe, just don't try
peddling it here, dimwit.
Budikka
Besque
Nov 27, 2012, 5:23:14 PM11/27/12
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age of the earth is 4.6^9 years old.
Get an education. Before you embarrass
> yourself any more, go and get an education - an education as to what's
> *really* going on around you; an education about what Christians in
> the USA really believe and how they really behave.
>
>
>> If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
>
> Everyone has now noted that you have flatly rejected your god's
> demands and you will not even acknowledge your rejection of the very
> god you hypocritically claim to worship.
>
>> we could hold a discussion.
>
> Not when you're LYING and running from your transgressions. Not when
> you are flatly refusing to condemn scum like J Young.
>
I know nothing at all about J. Young. Maybe I agree with him or maybe I
>> If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
>
> Everyone has now noted that you have flatly rejected your god's
> demands and you will not even acknowledge your rejection of the very
> god you hypocritically claim to worship.
>
>> we could hold a discussion.
>
> Not when you're LYING and running from your transgressions. Not when
> you are flatly refusing to condemn scum like J Young.
>
don't. I searched for J. Young's post in both alt.talk creationism and
alt.christian religion and I didn't find anything. I think this is
typical of you to dishonestly attack someone on the basis of something
you just made up whole cloth. It's a despicable tact.
>
>> But your infantile understanding
>> of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK OR DOES IT NOT?
>
It does
>> But your infantile understanding
>> of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK OR DOES IT NOT?
>
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO GO THE EXTRA MILE OR DOES IT NOT?
>
It does
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO GO THE EXTRA MILE OR DOES IT NOT?
>
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU NOT TO JUDGE OR DOES IT NOT?
>
It does
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU NOT TO JUDGE OR DOES IT NOT?
>
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO SHAKE OFF THE DUST AND DEPART OR DOES IT
> NOT?
>
it does
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO SHAKE OFF THE DUST AND DEPART OR DOES IT
> NOT?
>
>
> ARE YOU IN COMPLETE DENIAL ABOUT WHAT YOUR GOD HAS TOLD YOU TO DO OR
> ARE YOU NOT?
>
No. This is in reference to treatment of other human beings. You're not
> ARE YOU IN COMPLETE DENIAL ABOUT WHAT YOUR GOD HAS TOLD YOU TO DO OR
> ARE YOU NOT?
>
human!
>
> Answer the questions instead of running from *every* *single* *one*
> *that* *I've* *asked* *of* *you*, you worthless, lowlife, pathetic,
> hypocritical coward for Christ. This is not rocket science, These
> things are either in the Bible or they are not. Which is it? This is
> ***according to you*** the word of your own god which *you* are
> proudly ignoring.
>
>> I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you
>
> Then quit posting to a.a. and quit supporting scum like J Young who do
> post here. It's that simple. If you were any more dense you'd be a
> heavy metal. You're already as toxic as one.
>
I respond to what I find on alt christian religion and alt.talk
> Answer the questions instead of running from *every* *single* *one*
> *that* *I've* *asked* *of* *you*, you worthless, lowlife, pathetic,
> hypocritical coward for Christ. This is not rocket science, These
> things are either in the Bible or they are not. Which is it? This is
> ***according to you*** the word of your own god which *you* are
> proudly ignoring.
>
>> I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you
>
> Then quit posting to a.a. and quit supporting scum like J Young who do
> post here. It's that simple. If you were any more dense you'd be a
> heavy metal. You're already as toxic as one.
>
creationism. Here is where I find your crap!
>
> Budikka
>
Besque
Nov 27, 2012, 5:54:06 PM11/27/12
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On 11/27/2012 4:56 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
> On Nov 27, 3:34 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/24/2012 7:39 PM, Budikka666 wrote:> On Nov 24, 6:29 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Can you point to one Christian who is as vicious as MS Budkkka666
>>
>>> J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
>>> to support him and go after those who do condemn him.
>>
>> >
>> Who is J. Young and what have I said in support of him?
>
> That fact that you have to ask means you are well and truly beyond
> stupid.
>
So, this an admission that you just made up this poster? I thought so!
> On Nov 27, 3:34 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/24/2012 7:39 PM, Budikka666 wrote:> On Nov 24, 6:29 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Can you point to one Christian who is as vicious as MS Budkkka666
>>
>>> J Young, whom you have *flatly* *refused* to condemn, choosing instead
>>> to support him and go after those who do condemn him.
>>
>> >
>> Who is J. Young and what have I said in support of him?
>
> That fact that you have to ask means you are well and truly beyond
> stupid.
>
>
> Try opening your eyes you worthless piece of hypocritical trash.
>
> PS I don't give a flying fuck what you believe, just don't try
> peddling it here, dimwit.
>
Where is here, I'm on two christian NGs and alt.talk.creationism. It's
> Try opening your eyes you worthless piece of hypocritical trash.
>
> PS I don't give a flying fuck what you believe, just don't try
> peddling it here, dimwit.
>
here where I find your crap! This is another typical tactic of yours,
accuse Christians of what you yourself is guilty of.
It's you who cross-post to other NGs inviting responses, then attacking
them by engaging in slander, false accusations and character
assassination. That's what you think is debating: you really don't have
the intellectual capacity to carry on a serious, substantive discussion.
Another cowardly way you engage in a "debate", is to desert an old
thread, then start a new thread. You then hide behind the new thread and
lash out at other for "running away", when in reality this is your
escape. It's happened to others, its happened to me, I was being
verbally assaulted and insulted by you in another thread without knowing
it for days.
>
> Budikka
>
Besque
Nov 28, 2012, 12:29:53 PM11/28/12
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Jope
Nov 28, 2012, 6:22:31 PM11/28/12
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Keeping you away from hell is nearly impossible,since you have
expressed a strong desire to go there.
At this point,only prayer can help.
Father Haskell
Nov 28, 2012, 6:24:36 PM11/28/12
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On Nov 28, 6:22 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Keeping you away from hell is nearly impossible,since you have
> expressed a strong desire to go there.
Simple. Just stay away from churches.
>
> Keeping you away from hell is nearly impossible,since you have
> expressed a strong desire to go there.
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