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Kjell Pettersson
Jan 13, 2012, 3:46:22 AM1/13/12
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In 2010 I started a discussion on the fixed star Regulus. Well, sort
of started a discussion. Enamoured by a new toy, with which one could
make one’s own animated movies, I created an astrological news show
and posted the link to it. However, though it was a fun thing to play
with, the technique did not cooperate with me, and the show did not
work properly when put on a website. I guess showbiz is not for me!
I now return to the topic, but without fancy presentation that does
not work anyhow. One reason I want to give this topic some special
attention is that Regulus is prominently placed in the chart of our
newsgroup, right upon the Ascendant. Call me superstitious, but for
this reason I believe the star has a particular role to play with us,
and that we may only benefit from investigating it. And I must not be
shy: personally I want to be on record when for once daring to
prognosticate in a topic that interests me greatly.
The role of Regulus will not become apparent at once, but it does play
a part in the drama. I shall start with more ordinary astrology, and
make a prediction from such material, before moving on to Regulus,
that royal star par excellence.
However, true to Regulus, the subject matter is a royal family, and
the question of succession in a monarchy. I shall look into the
Bernadotte dynasty, now in their third century as rulers of the
Kingdom of Sweden. We start with the marriage chart of Crown Princess
Victoria and a once Swedish commoner, Daniel Westling, now Prince of
Sweden. An examination of this marriage chart shall be the subject of
my next post (coming very soon). In that post I am going make a
preliminary prediction regarding the Swedish succession.
Stay tuned!
of started a discussion. Enamoured by a new toy, with which one could
make one’s own animated movies, I created an astrological news show
and posted the link to it. However, though it was a fun thing to play
with, the technique did not cooperate with me, and the show did not
work properly when put on a website. I guess showbiz is not for me!
I now return to the topic, but without fancy presentation that does
not work anyhow. One reason I want to give this topic some special
attention is that Regulus is prominently placed in the chart of our
newsgroup, right upon the Ascendant. Call me superstitious, but for
this reason I believe the star has a particular role to play with us,
and that we may only benefit from investigating it. And I must not be
shy: personally I want to be on record when for once daring to
prognosticate in a topic that interests me greatly.
The role of Regulus will not become apparent at once, but it does play
a part in the drama. I shall start with more ordinary astrology, and
make a prediction from such material, before moving on to Regulus,
that royal star par excellence.
However, true to Regulus, the subject matter is a royal family, and
the question of succession in a monarchy. I shall look into the
Bernadotte dynasty, now in their third century as rulers of the
Kingdom of Sweden. We start with the marriage chart of Crown Princess
Victoria and a once Swedish commoner, Daniel Westling, now Prince of
Sweden. An examination of this marriage chart shall be the subject of
my next post (coming very soon). In that post I am going make a
preliminary prediction regarding the Swedish succession.
Stay tuned!
Kjell Pettersson
Jan 13, 2012, 12:55:42 PM1/13/12
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A Royal Marriage
Prediction
A prognosis can be made from the horoscope of the Swedish royal
marriage in June 2010, and it tells us that there will be a
significant change in the couple’s life in 2017. Knowing we have to do
with a royal couple, with one of the parties standing first in the
line of succession, succession seems to be one possible interpretation
of what the change might be about. Especially so since the nature of
the change indicated has to do with something reaching an extreme
culmination, and succeeding to the throne would certainly be a kind of
culmination in a Crown Princess’ life—, and probably for the spouse as
well. The indicator of change itself also has this one of its possible
interpretations.
So, my prediction is this: Crown Princess Victoria will succeed her
father on the throne in 2017.
Background: Succession in Sweden
The Bernadotte dynasty came into power by being elected to rule the
Kingdom by the Riksdag (Parliament) of Sweden in August 1810. The
Swedish Constitution from then on stipulated that the first-born
Bernadottean male should inherit the throne.
The Constitution was changed in 1979/1980, modernised if you will,
meaning the Crown Princess, born in 1977, was not Crown Princess until
the first of January 1980, then replacing her younger brother. Her
younger brother, Prince Carl Philip, born in 1979, was Crown Prince
for some seven months.
Tradition has the King staying on the throne until the day he dies. In
Sweden, the monarch does not ”retire” in old age, differing from, for
instance, the Netherlands. That the King should die during this decade
is, in my opinion, very unlikely. He will just have reached seventy
years old in 2017, hardly an age in which a healthy and fit man dies.
I consider it infinitely more likely that tradition will change.
A Change in Tradition?
For about two years there has been a campaign against the Royal Family
(antiroyalists have admitted such a thing is going on) which may,
perhaps, cause a change in tradition, due to a change in general
opinion about the King. Don’t get me wrong, everyone is entitled to
their opinion, but this has been something quite different. Faked
photography being produced to back up lies from a convicted criminal
(assault, black-mailing, tax evasion, weapons offenses, illegal
threats, narcotics... and so forth), in toto a very unsavoury business
and a press that really, *really*, should have known better than to
lend itself to participating in such a circus. Media has acted neither
honourably, nor with integrity, in this matter.
Anyhow, be that as it may. In spite of the methods and falsehoods of
the campaign, there has been a change in opinion about the King, and
the situation is now different from the mid-’noughties’ when the King
was held in very high esteem. This leads me to think there may be a
change in tradition, as the situation is now a new one. One such
change in tradition could be for the King to step down in favour of
the immensely popular Crown Princess, whose popularity has remained
unassaulted throughout this period. The Crown Princess has always been
extremely loved by the Swedes, and that has not changed. It is not
impossible to imagine the Royal Family seeing a change in tradition as
justifiable, given these circumstances.
Then again, it could certainly be the case that a change could be
forthcoming for quite other reasons, reasons which I am not privy to.
This actually is not at all unlikely, as the majority of the
indicators we are looking at are situated within a time window of 2016—
2017. However, I can work only from information that is available when
constructing an interpretation, so I shall have to disregard that
possibility.
Changing traditions due to public opinion, however, is not unheard of
in the Royal House. The Royal Family adjusted to modern times through
changing of marriage customs to be more palpable to modern Swedish
sensitivities, for instance, so tradition does not always rule
supreme.
Technical background for the above in the next post!
On Jan 13, 9:46 am, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
Prediction
A prognosis can be made from the horoscope of the Swedish royal
marriage in June 2010, and it tells us that there will be a
significant change in the couple’s life in 2017. Knowing we have to do
with a royal couple, with one of the parties standing first in the
line of succession, succession seems to be one possible interpretation
of what the change might be about. Especially so since the nature of
the change indicated has to do with something reaching an extreme
culmination, and succeeding to the throne would certainly be a kind of
culmination in a Crown Princess’ life—, and probably for the spouse as
well. The indicator of change itself also has this one of its possible
interpretations.
So, my prediction is this: Crown Princess Victoria will succeed her
father on the throne in 2017.
Background: Succession in Sweden
The Bernadotte dynasty came into power by being elected to rule the
Kingdom by the Riksdag (Parliament) of Sweden in August 1810. The
Swedish Constitution from then on stipulated that the first-born
Bernadottean male should inherit the throne.
The Constitution was changed in 1979/1980, modernised if you will,
meaning the Crown Princess, born in 1977, was not Crown Princess until
the first of January 1980, then replacing her younger brother. Her
younger brother, Prince Carl Philip, born in 1979, was Crown Prince
for some seven months.
Tradition has the King staying on the throne until the day he dies. In
Sweden, the monarch does not ”retire” in old age, differing from, for
instance, the Netherlands. That the King should die during this decade
is, in my opinion, very unlikely. He will just have reached seventy
years old in 2017, hardly an age in which a healthy and fit man dies.
I consider it infinitely more likely that tradition will change.
A Change in Tradition?
For about two years there has been a campaign against the Royal Family
(antiroyalists have admitted such a thing is going on) which may,
perhaps, cause a change in tradition, due to a change in general
opinion about the King. Don’t get me wrong, everyone is entitled to
their opinion, but this has been something quite different. Faked
photography being produced to back up lies from a convicted criminal
(assault, black-mailing, tax evasion, weapons offenses, illegal
threats, narcotics... and so forth), in toto a very unsavoury business
and a press that really, *really*, should have known better than to
lend itself to participating in such a circus. Media has acted neither
honourably, nor with integrity, in this matter.
Anyhow, be that as it may. In spite of the methods and falsehoods of
the campaign, there has been a change in opinion about the King, and
the situation is now different from the mid-’noughties’ when the King
was held in very high esteem. This leads me to think there may be a
change in tradition, as the situation is now a new one. One such
change in tradition could be for the King to step down in favour of
the immensely popular Crown Princess, whose popularity has remained
unassaulted throughout this period. The Crown Princess has always been
extremely loved by the Swedes, and that has not changed. It is not
impossible to imagine the Royal Family seeing a change in tradition as
justifiable, given these circumstances.
Then again, it could certainly be the case that a change could be
forthcoming for quite other reasons, reasons which I am not privy to.
This actually is not at all unlikely, as the majority of the
indicators we are looking at are situated within a time window of 2016—
2017. However, I can work only from information that is available when
constructing an interpretation, so I shall have to disregard that
possibility.
Changing traditions due to public opinion, however, is not unheard of
in the Royal House. The Royal Family adjusted to modern times through
changing of marriage customs to be more palpable to modern Swedish
sensitivities, for instance, so tradition does not always rule
supreme.
Technical background for the above in the next post!
On Jan 13, 9:46 am, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
Kjell Pettersson
Jan 14, 2012, 8:00:05 AM1/14/12
to
As promised, technical details:
The marriage chart of TTRRHH Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel
has been posted to the newsgroup, for those who would like to take a
look: http://goo.gl/cFiQJ. One thing hinting at the "royalness" of the
marriage would be the Jupiter/Saturn antiscion, the Sun of the chart
also relatively close to the midpoint Jup/Sat. But that was an aside,
I was going to describe how I arrived at the idea of succession.
The idea that there was something to investigate came upon me when I
noted, a week after the marriage, that there was an eclipse. One of my
favourite methods is (secondary) progression, and I quickly arrived at
the idea that the eclipse would affect the marriage chart of the newly-
weds. Eclipses in themselves having the possible interpretation of
"change of head of state" it was an association that practically
presented itself.
I checked it out, and to time the effect of the eclipse was no hard,
and—as you have probably already understood—it pointed to some kind of
relatively big change in 2017.
This is the short version. The longer version includes checking out
against other astrological data whether my interpretation seemed
likely. For this post, I'll stay with the short version but will
return to post about the longer version.
/Kjell
Also:
The Crown Princess natal chart can be found at http://goo.gl/Th0w8.
The birth time of the Prince is not known, but he was born September
15, 1973, in Örebro, Sweden.
On Jan 13, 6:55 pm, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
The marriage chart of TTRRHH Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel
has been posted to the newsgroup, for those who would like to take a
look: http://goo.gl/cFiQJ. One thing hinting at the "royalness" of the
marriage would be the Jupiter/Saturn antiscion, the Sun of the chart
also relatively close to the midpoint Jup/Sat. But that was an aside,
I was going to describe how I arrived at the idea of succession.
The idea that there was something to investigate came upon me when I
noted, a week after the marriage, that there was an eclipse. One of my
favourite methods is (secondary) progression, and I quickly arrived at
the idea that the eclipse would affect the marriage chart of the newly-
weds. Eclipses in themselves having the possible interpretation of
"change of head of state" it was an association that practically
presented itself.
I checked it out, and to time the effect of the eclipse was no hard,
and—as you have probably already understood—it pointed to some kind of
relatively big change in 2017.
This is the short version. The longer version includes checking out
against other astrological data whether my interpretation seemed
likely. For this post, I'll stay with the short version but will
return to post about the longer version.
/Kjell
Also:
The Crown Princess natal chart can be found at http://goo.gl/Th0w8.
The birth time of the Prince is not known, but he was born September
15, 1973, in Örebro, Sweden.
On Jan 13, 6:55 pm, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
Kjell Pettersson
Jan 18, 2012, 1:37:13 PM1/18/12
to
On Jan 14, 2:00�pm, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
The reason for predicting a change for the married couple was that one
week after their wedding, there was an eclipse. Eclipses are powerful
indicators of change, and one occurring so soon indicates a
significant change coming up in the life of the Crown Princess Couple.
How soon after the wedding the eclipse was helped to determine when to
expect the change, seven days later equalling roughly seven years
later; in 2017.
The Lunar Eclipse
Many, perhaps most, astrological aspects are quite invisible to the
lay person and can be seen and understood only by the astrologically
educated. There are exceptions to this, and I think in particular on
the cycle of the Moon. Eclipses are special cases of the lunar cycle,
solar eclipses occurring always at New Moon, lunar eclipses at the
Full Moon, and they are particularly visible. The eclipse occurring
one week after the marriage was a lunar eclipse; an occultation of the
Moon. Throughout history eclipses have been held to signify great
changes.
Interpreting This Particular Eclipse
Looking into the effects of this eclipse of the Moon, we are at an
advantage insofar as we are looking back in time upon it, and we can
look at what effects it had during the year following the eclipse. In
my opinion, the effects of the eclipse in the marriage chart are
likely to be similar to those that occurred in the world during the
year after the eclipse, but expressed in a specific and personalised
way. Thus, by interpreting the eclipse and the eclipse year, we may
get a feeling for what might be in store for the couple.
The year following the eclipse was a tumultuous one, including among
other things the Arabian Spring. A great many heads of state were
replaced. This is also, I think, in agreement with an interpretation
of the astrological factors of the eclipse. If a solar eclipse would
indicate a completely new start, a lunar eclipse is not as thorough
and more indicates a replacement than completely starting over. Solar
eclipses are at the juncture of the old and the new while lunar
eclipses occur mid-cycle.
(It should be noted that several past solar and lunar eclipses are
always active at the same time, among all the other myriad factors in
the skies, and I am sort of streamlining the argument to make it more
accessible. However, I am certain the case can be made that the lunar
eclipse of June 2010 indeed had a very strong connection with what has
been called the Arabian spring.)
The above is not strange, astrologically, as eclipses have in their
symbolism the exchange of the head of state. What is of interest to
note is that it happened to such a great extent, and that with a lunar
eclipse.
In My Next Post
To go from general to personal, we must look at how the personal
charts connect with the eclipse. In my next post I shall take a look
at the chart of the Crown Princess. It would be of interest to look at
the chart of Prince Daniel as well, but I do not have his birth-time,
so that cannot be done. However, if my prediction is correct, the
chart of Crown Princess Victoria is likely to be more telling, as she
is the one that would succeed her father on the Swedish throne.
Eclipse Data
The Capricorn Lunar Eclipse occurs on June 26, 2010 at 11:31am GMT/
7:31am EDT/ 4:31am PDT.
It was not a complete darkening of the Moon, but the eclipse was
heavily involved with a majority of the planets in the chart, so it
still would have a pretty strong effect.
/Kjell
> As promised, technical details:
>
> The marriage chart of TTRRHH Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel
> has been posted to the newsgroup, for those who would like to take a
> look:http://goo.gl/cFiQJ. One thing hinting at the "royalness" of the
> marriage would be the Jupiter/Saturn antiscion, the Sun of the chart
> also relatively close to the midpoint Jup/Sat. But that was an aside,
> I was going to describe how I arrived at the idea of succession.
>
> The idea that there was something to investigate came upon me when I
> noted, a week after the marriage, that there was an eclipse. One of my
> favourite methods is (secondary) progression, and I quickly arrived at
> the idea that the eclipse would affect the marriage chart of the newly-
> weds. Eclipses in themselves having the possible interpretation of
> "change of head of state" it was an association that practically
> presented itself.
>
> I checked it out, and to time the effect of the eclipse was no hard,
> and�as you have probably already understood�it pointed to some kind of
> relatively big change in 2017.
>
> This is the short version. The longer version includes checking out
> against other astrological data whether my interpretation seemed
> likely. For this post, I'll stay with the short version but will
> return to post about the longer version.
>
> /Kjell
>
> Also:
> The Crown Princess natal chart can be found athttp://goo.gl/Th0w8.
wrote:
The reason for predicting a change for the married couple was that one
week after their wedding, there was an eclipse. Eclipses are powerful
indicators of change, and one occurring so soon indicates a
significant change coming up in the life of the Crown Princess Couple.
How soon after the wedding the eclipse was helped to determine when to
expect the change, seven days later equalling roughly seven years
later; in 2017.
The Lunar Eclipse
Many, perhaps most, astrological aspects are quite invisible to the
lay person and can be seen and understood only by the astrologically
educated. There are exceptions to this, and I think in particular on
the cycle of the Moon. Eclipses are special cases of the lunar cycle,
solar eclipses occurring always at New Moon, lunar eclipses at the
Full Moon, and they are particularly visible. The eclipse occurring
one week after the marriage was a lunar eclipse; an occultation of the
Moon. Throughout history eclipses have been held to signify great
changes.
Interpreting This Particular Eclipse
Looking into the effects of this eclipse of the Moon, we are at an
advantage insofar as we are looking back in time upon it, and we can
look at what effects it had during the year following the eclipse. In
my opinion, the effects of the eclipse in the marriage chart are
likely to be similar to those that occurred in the world during the
year after the eclipse, but expressed in a specific and personalised
way. Thus, by interpreting the eclipse and the eclipse year, we may
get a feeling for what might be in store for the couple.
The year following the eclipse was a tumultuous one, including among
other things the Arabian Spring. A great many heads of state were
replaced. This is also, I think, in agreement with an interpretation
of the astrological factors of the eclipse. If a solar eclipse would
indicate a completely new start, a lunar eclipse is not as thorough
and more indicates a replacement than completely starting over. Solar
eclipses are at the juncture of the old and the new while lunar
eclipses occur mid-cycle.
(It should be noted that several past solar and lunar eclipses are
always active at the same time, among all the other myriad factors in
the skies, and I am sort of streamlining the argument to make it more
accessible. However, I am certain the case can be made that the lunar
eclipse of June 2010 indeed had a very strong connection with what has
been called the Arabian spring.)
The above is not strange, astrologically, as eclipses have in their
symbolism the exchange of the head of state. What is of interest to
note is that it happened to such a great extent, and that with a lunar
eclipse.
In My Next Post
To go from general to personal, we must look at how the personal
charts connect with the eclipse. In my next post I shall take a look
at the chart of the Crown Princess. It would be of interest to look at
the chart of Prince Daniel as well, but I do not have his birth-time,
so that cannot be done. However, if my prediction is correct, the
chart of Crown Princess Victoria is likely to be more telling, as she
is the one that would succeed her father on the Swedish throne.
Eclipse Data
The Capricorn Lunar Eclipse occurs on June 26, 2010 at 11:31am GMT/
7:31am EDT/ 4:31am PDT.
It was not a complete darkening of the Moon, but the eclipse was
heavily involved with a majority of the planets in the chart, so it
still would have a pretty strong effect.
/Kjell
> As promised, technical details:
>
> The marriage chart of TTRRHH Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel
> has been posted to the newsgroup, for those who would like to take a
> look:http://goo.gl/cFiQJ. One thing hinting at the "royalness" of the
> marriage would be the Jupiter/Saturn antiscion, the Sun of the chart
> also relatively close to the midpoint Jup/Sat. But that was an aside,
> I was going to describe how I arrived at the idea of succession.
>
> The idea that there was something to investigate came upon me when I
> noted, a week after the marriage, that there was an eclipse. One of my
> favourite methods is (secondary) progression, and I quickly arrived at
> the idea that the eclipse would affect the marriage chart of the newly-
> weds. Eclipses in themselves having the possible interpretation of
> "change of head of state" it was an association that practically
> presented itself.
>
> I checked it out, and to time the effect of the eclipse was no hard,
> and�as you have probably already understood�it pointed to some kind of
> relatively big change in 2017.
>
> This is the short version. The longer version includes checking out
> against other astrological data whether my interpretation seemed
> likely. For this post, I'll stay with the short version but will
> return to post about the longer version.
>
> /Kjell
>
> Also:
> The birth time of the Prince is not known, but he was born September
> 15, 1973, in �rebro, Sweden.
Kjell Pettersson
Jan 20, 2012, 5:04:30 AM1/20/12
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The Eclipse of 2010
The eclipse that influences the marriage also has an impact upon the
birth horoscope of the Crown Princess. We may therefore infer that, at
least during the year after the wedding, she would be the one of the
couple most affected by the eclipse. I think it is reasonable to also
infer that this carries over into the later manifestation of the
eclipse, in 2017.
Why was there not a Swedish version of the ’Arabian Spring’? If the
eclipse signified peoples ridding themselves of autocrats—and a
monarch would be a kind of autocrat—, why not in Sweden? (Let us
disregard for the moment the ’democratic difference’ between Sweden
and the Arabian countries that liberated themselves in 2011, and that
monarchs in constitutional monarchies are not really autocrats.)
Looking at this from the viewpoint of this investigation, the
following can be said:
1. The eclipse occurred over the Pacific, where the newly-weds were on
their honeymoon. That is, they were in the area where one would be the
most affected by the eclipse, in contradistinction to the people of
Sweden. The Crown Princess being first in the line of succession, it
makes sense that she would be strongly affected by the eclipse.
However, had the eclipse been speaking of Sweden going republic, the
people would have been as affected as the Crown Princess. This was not
the case, so I side with a change that is about succession rather than
a change in constitution.
2. The eclipse aspects the Moon in the Crown Princess’ natal chart
(the eclipse Sun conjoins the natal Moon). The Moon is placed in her
own sign, Cancer, and we may therefore consider it the stronger party.
It therefore seems unlikely with an interpretation that would see the
Crown Princess loose the throne. With her position the strongest, it
seems to me that she would effectively stand her ground against any
anti-monarchist rising.
The first year after a lunar eclipse is when to expect changes that
have to do with the eclipse. We have seen how the eclipse affected the
Crown Princess during the year after the eclipse. It does not seem
reasonable to me that the eclipse should have a greater strength in a
progressed marriage chart than when interacting directly with a
personal and natal chart, so the impact upon the marriage will, I
think, not be greater than it was upon the Crown Princess.
Are There Other Factors?
Apart from the eclipse, the stars seem to indicate that the Crown
Princess will go from ’minor’ to ’major’ royalty in 2017 or
thereabouts. (Her natal Sun is conjunct Pollux. In 2017 her progressed
Sun conjoins Regulus.)
Coming Up
The Crown Princess would succeed the King, and so her chart is of
major interest. Of course, so must the chart of the King himself be,
and I shall therefore take a look at his chart next time, and relate
it to what we already know. Certainly, there can be no succession
unless the throne has been vacated. Could that happen?
/Kjell
P.S.
I a trying to write these posts in an accessible manner, to make them
understandable to non-pros as well as astrologers. Should you want
more technical detail than what is given, shout out! /K
On Jan 18, 7:37 pm, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
The eclipse that influences the marriage also has an impact upon the
birth horoscope of the Crown Princess. We may therefore infer that, at
least during the year after the wedding, she would be the one of the
couple most affected by the eclipse. I think it is reasonable to also
infer that this carries over into the later manifestation of the
eclipse, in 2017.
Why was there not a Swedish version of the ’Arabian Spring’? If the
eclipse signified peoples ridding themselves of autocrats—and a
monarch would be a kind of autocrat—, why not in Sweden? (Let us
disregard for the moment the ’democratic difference’ between Sweden
and the Arabian countries that liberated themselves in 2011, and that
monarchs in constitutional monarchies are not really autocrats.)
Looking at this from the viewpoint of this investigation, the
following can be said:
1. The eclipse occurred over the Pacific, where the newly-weds were on
their honeymoon. That is, they were in the area where one would be the
most affected by the eclipse, in contradistinction to the people of
Sweden. The Crown Princess being first in the line of succession, it
makes sense that she would be strongly affected by the eclipse.
However, had the eclipse been speaking of Sweden going republic, the
people would have been as affected as the Crown Princess. This was not
the case, so I side with a change that is about succession rather than
a change in constitution.
2. The eclipse aspects the Moon in the Crown Princess’ natal chart
(the eclipse Sun conjoins the natal Moon). The Moon is placed in her
own sign, Cancer, and we may therefore consider it the stronger party.
It therefore seems unlikely with an interpretation that would see the
Crown Princess loose the throne. With her position the strongest, it
seems to me that she would effectively stand her ground against any
anti-monarchist rising.
The first year after a lunar eclipse is when to expect changes that
have to do with the eclipse. We have seen how the eclipse affected the
Crown Princess during the year after the eclipse. It does not seem
reasonable to me that the eclipse should have a greater strength in a
progressed marriage chart than when interacting directly with a
personal and natal chart, so the impact upon the marriage will, I
think, not be greater than it was upon the Crown Princess.
Are There Other Factors?
Apart from the eclipse, the stars seem to indicate that the Crown
Princess will go from ’minor’ to ’major’ royalty in 2017 or
thereabouts. (Her natal Sun is conjunct Pollux. In 2017 her progressed
Sun conjoins Regulus.)
Coming Up
The Crown Princess would succeed the King, and so her chart is of
major interest. Of course, so must the chart of the King himself be,
and I shall therefore take a look at his chart next time, and relate
it to what we already know. Certainly, there can be no succession
unless the throne has been vacated. Could that happen?
/Kjell
P.S.
I a trying to write these posts in an accessible manner, to make them
understandable to non-pros as well as astrologers. Should you want
more technical detail than what is given, shout out! /K
On Jan 18, 7:37 pm, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
Kjell Pettersson
Jan 23, 2012, 1:36:49 AM1/23/12
to
The Chart of the King
Prognostication
First, the chart of the King tells us that a change related to his
status as monarch seems to be in the wings, forthcoming probably
between mid-May 2016 and mid-May 2017. (Conversely progressed Sun
opposes Regulus.)
Secondly, comparing his chart with his daughter’s chart we also see
that this change of status seems to be related to her, personally,
which is again an indicator that we are speaking of succession rather
than a Swedish republic.
Thirdly, if one looks at how his chart is affected by how the skies
look during this time (transits!), there are plenty of indications
that could be interpreted as pointing towards him wanting to leave his
rôle as a monarch behind.
A Confluence of Factors
When there is a confluence of factors, like we have here, and they all
point in the same direction, to my mind that is a sign that a well-
founded decision is about to break through, stimulated both from
within and from without. One single indication might be disregarded,
but if one looks at one person from a multitude of angles and still
sees the same picture emerge, the confluence does give a reasonable
interpretation to go with.
What Next?
Having looked at the individual charts of the two major players in
this drama, and relating them to one another, we are still getting
consonant results. Still, so far we have only been looking at
horoscopes that are inherently personal. Next post will be about a
horoscope that is not personal in the same sense as the ordinary birth
chart.
More in the next post!
/Kjell
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Prognostication
First, the chart of the King tells us that a change related to his
status as monarch seems to be in the wings, forthcoming probably
between mid-May 2016 and mid-May 2017. (Conversely progressed Sun
opposes Regulus.)
Secondly, comparing his chart with his daughter’s chart we also see
that this change of status seems to be related to her, personally,
which is again an indicator that we are speaking of succession rather
than a Swedish republic.
Thirdly, if one looks at how his chart is affected by how the skies
look during this time (transits!), there are plenty of indications
that could be interpreted as pointing towards him wanting to leave his
rôle as a monarch behind.
A Confluence of Factors
When there is a confluence of factors, like we have here, and they all
point in the same direction, to my mind that is a sign that a well-
founded decision is about to break through, stimulated both from
within and from without. One single indication might be disregarded,
but if one looks at one person from a multitude of angles and still
sees the same picture emerge, the confluence does give a reasonable
interpretation to go with.
What Next?
Having looked at the individual charts of the two major players in
this drama, and relating them to one another, we are still getting
consonant results. Still, so far we have only been looking at
horoscopes that are inherently personal. Next post will be about a
horoscope that is not personal in the same sense as the ordinary birth
chart.
More in the next post!
/Kjell
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Jan 23, 2012, 2:16:48 AM1/23/12
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It seems the post I made yesterday has been swallowed up by the great
void that is between the Internet and the Usenet, so I repost it.
On Jan 20, 11:04 am, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
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void that is between the Internet and the Usenet, so I repost it.
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Kjell Pettersson
Jan 23, 2012, 5:12:41 AM1/23/12
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I apologize for the double posting. I hope the moderator does not shut
me out, as repeat postings are not allowed according to the Charter.
In case he will, I hurry to make another post before he does so!
(Please mr Moderator, I promise to behave from now on.)
Back to topic.
The Science of Origins
One basic idea in astrology is the idea that origins matter. The
starting point encapsulates the story that will be told. Ultimately,
our fates are tied up with where and when we were born, as if we were
extensions of the planet itself.
However, origins matter not only to people. Events have origins too,
and the origin of an event can tell us about the history that follows
from that particular event. Take, for instance, the event of someone
becoming a monarch. That event will speak of the subsequent era of
that monarch. In the case of the monarch also being the first of a
dynasty, the event will speak of the entire era of that dynasty.
The Bernadottean Era
The first Bernadotte monarch was Charles XIV John, King of Sweden and
Norway. He effectively became the new king upon the 1818 death of his
successor, Charles XIII. The event chart for this moment should speak
to us about the Bernadottean dynasty following upon Holstein-Gottorp,
which Charles XIII was the last of.
The event chart itself is interesting since it is a New Moon chart.
The Moon has passed the Sun by just a few degrees. That the New Moon
makes sense since the chart is supposed to describe the beginning of
something entirely new. It is also symbolically adequate that the Moon
is past the Sun, as the Crown Prince Bernadotte had already been
ruling the country de facto.
Confirmation or Not?
However, we shall not dwell upon this chart but look upon what it
might say about the time frame we are interested in; 2016—2017. Doing
so we find something I consider highly relevant; the progressed Sun of
the chart for 1818 is in mid-2016 at about 29°30 LEO. Incidentally,
this is the same position as the progressed Sun of HRH Crown Princess
Victoria, the difference only a fraction of a degree.
This also means that the progressed Sun will reach Regulus (current
position) about the same time as the progressed Sun of the Crown
Princess does so. If the progressed Sun of the Bernadottean era itself
reaches Regulus that does not in itself speak of a change of ruler.
However, it seems to me to speak of some kind of elevation of status
to the dynasty itself. I do not know how to interpret this, but it
does not seem to go against my earlier interpretation.
Conclusion
My conclusion: whatever the exact meaning of this is, it does seem to
point to something important and of royal character coming up within
our time-frame.
/Kjell
P.S.
An interesting note on the side:
1. As the progressed Sun of the 1818 chart is ’synchronized’ with the
progressed Sun of the Crown Princess, it follows that when the Crown
Princess was born, the progressed Sun of the 1818 chart, ’the dynastic
chart’, was conjunct her natal Sun.
This position is also the position of the radical Sun of the 1319
chart for Sweden.
/K
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me out, as repeat postings are not allowed according to the Charter.
In case he will, I hurry to make another post before he does so!
(Please mr Moderator, I promise to behave from now on.)
Back to topic.
The Science of Origins
One basic idea in astrology is the idea that origins matter. The
starting point encapsulates the story that will be told. Ultimately,
our fates are tied up with where and when we were born, as if we were
extensions of the planet itself.
However, origins matter not only to people. Events have origins too,
and the origin of an event can tell us about the history that follows
from that particular event. Take, for instance, the event of someone
becoming a monarch. That event will speak of the subsequent era of
that monarch. In the case of the monarch also being the first of a
dynasty, the event will speak of the entire era of that dynasty.
The Bernadottean Era
The first Bernadotte monarch was Charles XIV John, King of Sweden and
Norway. He effectively became the new king upon the 1818 death of his
successor, Charles XIII. The event chart for this moment should speak
to us about the Bernadottean dynasty following upon Holstein-Gottorp,
which Charles XIII was the last of.
The event chart itself is interesting since it is a New Moon chart.
The Moon has passed the Sun by just a few degrees. That the New Moon
makes sense since the chart is supposed to describe the beginning of
something entirely new. It is also symbolically adequate that the Moon
is past the Sun, as the Crown Prince Bernadotte had already been
ruling the country de facto.
Confirmation or Not?
However, we shall not dwell upon this chart but look upon what it
might say about the time frame we are interested in; 2016—2017. Doing
so we find something I consider highly relevant; the progressed Sun of
the chart for 1818 is in mid-2016 at about 29°30 LEO. Incidentally,
this is the same position as the progressed Sun of HRH Crown Princess
Victoria, the difference only a fraction of a degree.
This also means that the progressed Sun will reach Regulus (current
position) about the same time as the progressed Sun of the Crown
Princess does so. If the progressed Sun of the Bernadottean era itself
reaches Regulus that does not in itself speak of a change of ruler.
However, it seems to me to speak of some kind of elevation of status
to the dynasty itself. I do not know how to interpret this, but it
does not seem to go against my earlier interpretation.
Conclusion
My conclusion: whatever the exact meaning of this is, it does seem to
point to something important and of royal character coming up within
our time-frame.
/Kjell
P.S.
An interesting note on the side:
1. As the progressed Sun of the 1818 chart is ’synchronized’ with the
progressed Sun of the Crown Princess, it follows that when the Crown
Princess was born, the progressed Sun of the 1818 chart, ’the dynastic
chart’, was conjunct her natal Sun.
This position is also the position of the radical Sun of the 1319
chart for Sweden.
/K
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Jan 23, 2012, 11:21:53 AM1/23/12
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Eclipses
The impetus to investigate a variety of horoscopes came from noting an
eclipse one week after the wedding of TTRRHH Crown Princess Victoria
and Prince Daniel. I made a tentative prediction, but felt it needed
to be qualified. Investigating the transits of 2016 and 2017 I found
out there is an eclipse that may be related to my prediction.
In August, 2017, there will be an eclipse in late Leo, where most now
living have their Regulus placed, natally. It is a solar eclipse,
occurring at a New Moon. The eclipse itself is of some interest to the
newsgroup since it is in the same Saros series as the eclipse of 1998
which decided the Ascendant of our chart. It stands to reason that an
eclipse on our Ascendant will have some effect on the group!
However, our topic is succession in the Swedish monarchy. From what we
have seen, during 2016—2017 three progressed Suns are strongly
relating to Regulus. The King of Sweden has his conversely progressed
Sun opposing Regulus, the Crown Princess has her progressed Sun
conjunct Regulus, and so is the ’dynastic’ progressed Sun too.
I have come across the idea that eclipses don't really *change*
anything or add anything to a situation that is not already there.
They merely get things moving, but the things moving are already in
place. I have no authority to refer to and do not know if this is an
idea embraced by consensus but IF it is so, it seems reasonable to
assume that the eclipse of 2017 will lead to things happening. That
is, if they have not already done so.
The eclipse of 2010, visible in the progressed marriage chart,
culminates in mid-May 2017. (On the birthday of HRH Prince Charles
Philip!) It seems reasonable to assume that no matter how many
indicators we have before that date, nothing will change with regards
to succession before this date. Something need to activate the whole
situation, a ’trigger’.
In principle, I guess the trigger could activate the eclipse of 2010,
present in the marriage chart, but it seems more likely that an
activation should relate directly to the charts involved, rather than
indirectly.
If that assumption is correct, it is the late Leo/early Libra versus
late Aquarius/early Pisces-axis and Regulus that stand first in line.
This position relates to both the King, the Crown Princess, the
dynasty and the subject matter (Regulus being connected with royalty).
The first activation after mid-May IS the eclipse of August 2017.
However, eclipses in themselves need to be activated for the changes
they speak of to become visible. That happens quite soon though, with
transiting Mars conjoining the eclipse degree within a very short
time.
I will return with an interpretation of the above, and the preceding,
in the next post.
/Kjell
On Jan 23, 11:12 am, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
> > > > Looking into the...
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The impetus to investigate a variety of horoscopes came from noting an
eclipse one week after the wedding of TTRRHH Crown Princess Victoria
and Prince Daniel. I made a tentative prediction, but felt it needed
to be qualified. Investigating the transits of 2016 and 2017 I found
out there is an eclipse that may be related to my prediction.
In August, 2017, there will be an eclipse in late Leo, where most now
living have their Regulus placed, natally. It is a solar eclipse,
occurring at a New Moon. The eclipse itself is of some interest to the
newsgroup since it is in the same Saros series as the eclipse of 1998
which decided the Ascendant of our chart. It stands to reason that an
eclipse on our Ascendant will have some effect on the group!
However, our topic is succession in the Swedish monarchy. From what we
have seen, during 2016—2017 three progressed Suns are strongly
relating to Regulus. The King of Sweden has his conversely progressed
Sun opposing Regulus, the Crown Princess has her progressed Sun
conjunct Regulus, and so is the ’dynastic’ progressed Sun too.
I have come across the idea that eclipses don't really *change*
anything or add anything to a situation that is not already there.
They merely get things moving, but the things moving are already in
place. I have no authority to refer to and do not know if this is an
idea embraced by consensus but IF it is so, it seems reasonable to
assume that the eclipse of 2017 will lead to things happening. That
is, if they have not already done so.
The eclipse of 2010, visible in the progressed marriage chart,
culminates in mid-May 2017. (On the birthday of HRH Prince Charles
Philip!) It seems reasonable to assume that no matter how many
indicators we have before that date, nothing will change with regards
to succession before this date. Something need to activate the whole
situation, a ’trigger’.
In principle, I guess the trigger could activate the eclipse of 2010,
present in the marriage chart, but it seems more likely that an
activation should relate directly to the charts involved, rather than
indirectly.
If that assumption is correct, it is the late Leo/early Libra versus
late Aquarius/early Pisces-axis and Regulus that stand first in line.
This position relates to both the King, the Crown Princess, the
dynasty and the subject matter (Regulus being connected with royalty).
The first activation after mid-May IS the eclipse of August 2017.
However, eclipses in themselves need to be activated for the changes
they speak of to become visible. That happens quite soon though, with
transiting Mars conjoining the eclipse degree within a very short
time.
I will return with an interpretation of the above, and the preceding,
in the next post.
/Kjell
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Jan 23, 2012, 2:11:15 PM1/23/12
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Pinpointing the Moment
Starting with a single indication in a single chart, seeking
confirmation in other charts I have sought to go from a general time
window into one particular and specific point in time. A final and
revised prediction should not simply point to the date when the
progressed wedding chart reaches the eclipse. Having taken other
charts into consideration, and looking into how these charts fit with
the transiting stars at the time, in my last post I arrived at a date
soon after the solar eclipse in late Leo, 2017.
Extra-Astrological Information
Ultimately, an interpretation, especially so a prediction, must always
take into account the lives and stories of the people involved in the
prediction. Had the analysis we have been doing been about quite other
people, none of them royal, no amount of aspects to Regulus would have
led to a prediction regarding succession. A prediction must depend
upon what is possible in the lives of those concerned. It need not
seem likely, but it must be within the realm of the possible.
So far I have said that I predict a succession, and I have pinpointed
relatively exactly when I think things will happen. But, exactly what
is it that I predict will happen at this time? Here we need to look at
the real-life context. And in a real-life context, succession does not
happen from one day to the next (unless there is a death involved,
which I specifically do not think will be the case here).
The Alternatives
If we look back to when Charles XVI Gustaf succeeded the previous
monarch, his grandfather Gustave VI Adolf, we see that there were
really two points in time. One when the old King died, one when he
formally ascended to the throne. We may meet a similar thing in 2017;
the King stepping down at one point in time, or announcing that he
will do so, and the Crown Princess ascending to the throne at another
point in time. As the tradition has been to have succession with death
and I predict a change in tradition, we do not really know how such a
change will look. But this is what I think will happen:
1. The King announces his retirement. This will happen soon after the
eclipse that conjuncts Regulus in 2017. The chart events that occur
before this will happen in the private sphere, perhaps only in the
King's own mind even.
2. The actual stepping down and the Crown Princess ascending to the
throne will however not, I believe, happen at this time. And now I
rely upon extra-astrological information. In 2018 it will be 200 years
since the first Bernadotte, Charles XIV John, ascended to the throne,
and I believe the Royal Court will choose to let this year be the year
when the Crown Princess becomes queen. (Royals are very much for
combining dates like this. The 2010 marriage was obviously planned to
coincide with the 1810 arrival of the first Bernadotte to Sweden.)
Also, besides the wishes and the protocol of the Royal Court, there is
also that this is a state matter. Things like these are not done away
with from one day to the next.
And this is really my take on it. We will have the *announcement* of
the stepping down in our time window, and the astrological processes
we have looked into are about that stepping down, and the mental and
emotional preparations for that, for all concerned. The machinery, or
mechanics, so to speak. When things are finally made public, all the
mental and emotional processing is already past.
To summarize my idea about the actual succession; the Crown Princess,
I believe, wont actually ascend to the throne until in 2018, which is
the jubilee of Karl Johan XIV ascension to the throne. That makes the
most sense from an extra-astrological perspective, taken into
consideration how I believe a Royal House is likely to think and plan
about a matter such as this. But if I am correct, that is another
story, yet to be investigated, yet to be told!
/Kjell
On Jan 23, 5:21 pm, Kjell Pettersson <kjelle...@kjellpettersson.com>
wrote:
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Starting with a single indication in a single chart, seeking
confirmation in other charts I have sought to go from a general time
window into one particular and specific point in time. A final and
revised prediction should not simply point to the date when the
progressed wedding chart reaches the eclipse. Having taken other
charts into consideration, and looking into how these charts fit with
the transiting stars at the time, in my last post I arrived at a date
soon after the solar eclipse in late Leo, 2017.
Extra-Astrological Information
Ultimately, an interpretation, especially so a prediction, must always
take into account the lives and stories of the people involved in the
prediction. Had the analysis we have been doing been about quite other
people, none of them royal, no amount of aspects to Regulus would have
led to a prediction regarding succession. A prediction must depend
upon what is possible in the lives of those concerned. It need not
seem likely, but it must be within the realm of the possible.
So far I have said that I predict a succession, and I have pinpointed
relatively exactly when I think things will happen. But, exactly what
is it that I predict will happen at this time? Here we need to look at
the real-life context. And in a real-life context, succession does not
happen from one day to the next (unless there is a death involved,
which I specifically do not think will be the case here).
The Alternatives
If we look back to when Charles XVI Gustaf succeeded the previous
monarch, his grandfather Gustave VI Adolf, we see that there were
really two points in time. One when the old King died, one when he
formally ascended to the throne. We may meet a similar thing in 2017;
the King stepping down at one point in time, or announcing that he
will do so, and the Crown Princess ascending to the throne at another
point in time. As the tradition has been to have succession with death
and I predict a change in tradition, we do not really know how such a
change will look. But this is what I think will happen:
1. The King announces his retirement. This will happen soon after the
eclipse that conjuncts Regulus in 2017. The chart events that occur
before this will happen in the private sphere, perhaps only in the
King's own mind even.
2. The actual stepping down and the Crown Princess ascending to the
throne will however not, I believe, happen at this time. And now I
rely upon extra-astrological information. In 2018 it will be 200 years
since the first Bernadotte, Charles XIV John, ascended to the throne,
and I believe the Royal Court will choose to let this year be the year
when the Crown Princess becomes queen. (Royals are very much for
combining dates like this. The 2010 marriage was obviously planned to
coincide with the 1810 arrival of the first Bernadotte to Sweden.)
Also, besides the wishes and the protocol of the Royal Court, there is
also that this is a state matter. Things like these are not done away
with from one day to the next.
And this is really my take on it. We will have the *announcement* of
the stepping down in our time window, and the astrological processes
we have looked into are about that stepping down, and the mental and
emotional preparations for that, for all concerned. The machinery, or
mechanics, so to speak. When things are finally made public, all the
mental and emotional processing is already past.
To summarize my idea about the actual succession; the Crown Princess,
I believe, wont actually ascend to the throne until in 2018, which is
the jubilee of Karl Johan XIV ascension to the throne. That makes the
most sense from an extra-astrological perspective, taken into
consideration how I believe a Royal House is likely to think and plan
about a matter such as this. But if I am correct, that is another
story, yet to be investigated, yet to be told!
/Kjell
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