I've learned so much from this group already....so thanks in advance!
Take Care, Carley
"Carley" <Car...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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The Rough collie is the collie like Lassie--with a long, heavy mane.
There's also a Smooth collie (same breed here in the US, different variety,
like 13 and 15 inch Beagles, or the different Doxies) that has a coat like a
German Shepherd and the build of the rough.
~Emily
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This seems to be culture thing. Around here (Ulster) a rough collie is a
border collie with very long hair indeed. Our first Tudor was like that, a
black an white ball of dense fur that hated to be dis-entangled.
A long haired collie is a black and white dog that has a nice mane but is
somewhat more restrained in the growth of bodily decoration.
A smooth haired collie is a wee devil that pretends to have short hair but
in fact fills two or three vacuum cleaners a week with black and white
hair and generally pretends to look more tidy than the rest of his
devilish breed.
It is all very complicated and the terms seem to depend upon where you
live.
Jochen
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Actually, rough collie is probably referring to the typical "Lassie" collie.
In the British Isles the term "collie" generally means the border collie,
but in the US "collie" generally means the "Lassie type".
There are actually several different types of "collies"
The Border Collie (which includes a long-haired, rough-coat, and smooth coat
variety)
The Scotch Collie which is separated out as "Rough Collie" and "Smooth
Collie" for the coat variety.
and the Bearded Collie, which sort of looks like an old English Sheep dog
with a tail and a bit smaller in size.
Hope that helps.
Marla Belzowski
& the LegendHold Collie Clan (that's US for Rough collie)
Carley <Car...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Correct
> In the British Isles the term "collie" generally means the border collie,
correct
> but in the US "collie" generally means the "Lassie type".
>
> There are actually several different types of "collies"
> The Border Collie (which includes a long-haired, rough-coat, and smooth
coat
> variety)
correct
> The Scotch Collie which is separated out as "Rough Collie" and "Smooth
> Collie" for the coat variety.
UK don't refer to Scotch Collie, we call it the Rough or the Lassie, [in
fact
most English people will say Lassie collie as the breed name instead of
Rough !] , and the Smooth Coat Rough [ !! ] [ to separate it from Smooth
Border Collie}.
> and the Bearded Collie, which sort of looks like an old English Sheep dog
> with a tail and a bit smaller in size.
And a different coat type altogether,[ and, happily, a lot more Old English
Sheep dogs are getting to keep their tails in UK nowadays !!]
We also recognise, as collies, the Welsh collie which is smaller, and
silkier haired, than a Border Collie, and the Sheltie [correct breed name,
Shetland Sheepdog] which looks a lot like a miniature Rough [ or Lassie !! ]
collie, and often are mistaken as Rough Collie pups here.
We [UK] also recognise many other breeds as sheepdogs but without the
"collie" tag, including Alsatian, Belgian Shepherd, Corgi, Australian Sheep
Dog, Anatolian Shepherd dog, Borzoi, Briard,Maremma Sheepdog, Polish
Sheepdog, Rottweiler, but they don't get to do sheep work here, at last none
I`ve come across as yet.
Hope that clarifies the UK terms.
Regards, Patch.
make that four colors. It also comes in white with various color heads.
a Border Collie is a separate breed all of it's own.
Poster meant sable WITH white. US has white with various colour heads, UK
[ where the breed originates], has Sable WITH white, Tri-colour [ the most
common] and Blue Merle.
Patch
Not around here. No-one talks of border collies, just of collies as in:
"Man Sir, that's a nice coalie doog you have there". When people talk
about what Americans call a collie they generally say Lassy type collie,
or something like that.