AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL ANSWERS ED CONRAD'S QUESTION
Supreme Bean
Here is Ed Conrad's question. The alien response follows.
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WHAT DO EXTRATERRESTRIALS WANT FROM US?
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< (An Editorial by Ed Conrad)
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Well, for sure, they wouldn't want our paper money.(too damn
contaminated, for one thing, transporting bacteria and germs around
faster than the Orient Express.)
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How about our manpower to serve as slave labor, our incredible work
force?
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Hmmm! Not really! Not when they know, at best, we
operate at only about 55- 65 percent efficiency (except in those U.S.-
outsourced factories overseas which pay 10-15 cents an hour. although
in rare cases as much as 35).
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Well. how about our advancement in knowledge?
Ridiculous! WHAT knowledge, compared to theirs?
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Okay, well, how about our gorgeous planet, with its fresh air, clean
water, spacious skies and mountains majesty?
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I'd hardly think so, not with our wildebeast tampede of pollution
(although, perhaps, an affirmative answer if we had asked that same
question 150-200 years ago).
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Could it be the visitors from outer space savor an education, desiring
to learn how we've made astounding progress in good will toward our
fellow man?
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Sorry, Charlie! Another negative, with wars and battles and
hostilities raging somewhere around the globe almost all the time?
And, just as bad, they've certainly noticed that most of us can't even
get along with our neighbors.
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I know! How about our democratic form of government, the concept that
all people are treated equal (wherever Democracy reigns)?
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Hmmm! That's got to be a strikeout, too. The extraterrestrials must
have noticed that the most dynamic changes in the legal system -- like
the current U.S. health insurance issue -- usually are rejected by
corrupt, deep-pocket politicians in order to continue to benefit the
filthy rich, to make them filty richer, but with absolutely no concern
for the hardship their infernal greed causes for the common man.
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To be perfectly honest, after our visitors from outer space get a
really good idea of who we are and what we're really all about, it's
rather obvious why they definitely would want NO part of us (not even
as a meal, since we undoubtedly would make them puke).
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In fact, when Captain Zorbar shakes his head in disgust and finally
announces, "OK, Xisbar, Turn the ship around because we're heading
home!" the entire crew will breathe a collective sigh of relief and
give a rousing cheer.
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< AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL RESPONDS
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Zinkag 41 (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64) has
written:
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There WAS a possibility that humans could contribute to civilizing the
universe but they have proven to be violent and shortsighted for that.
Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
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I speak only for the crew of my ship and necessarily in an unofficial
capacity, and as such the statements below should not be taken as
authoritative or their opinions being representative of official
policy.
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Historically, the policy towards Earthers within the galactic milieu
has been largely as you say. As you know, lengthly programs of
detailed observation were undertaken several hundred years ago.
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Nearly every academic extrapolated from the various terrestrial techno-
culture studies from that effort has concluded that Earthers, as a
self-organized species, would end poorly in some inevitable
global conflagration or religious conflict.
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As we know, it has happened before and will happen again countless
times among species whose biology fails to support reasoned thinking
with sufficient quality and rigor. Earthers have been shown to have
insufficient capacity within their brains for rational policy.
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In the unforgiving universe, they will pay the price sooner or
later.
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The caveat in all this comes from the possibility that these Earthers
might achieve inter-steller spaceflight capabilities. In that event,
the chances of these Earthers destroying themselves completely is
appreciably diminished with each successful colony.
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The local stellar group is unoccupied and is rich in raw materials,
and is therefore ripe for exploitation, if they get out there -- by
which time it would be too late for peaceful solutions.
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In the nineteen eighties it was clear that the US space program was
moribund with politics; so far, so good. But thirty years later we are
threatened with civilian access to LEO (low earth orbit), which in
some scenarios explodes into Space Renaissance, leading to non-trivial
solar-system expansion.
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Furthermore, Earthers have somehow muddled through many major crises
without a large incident and may in fact have developed geopolitical
talent sufficient to this minimal task. Barring accident, in fifty
years the Earthers could be pushing their first
generation ships out in the cometary halo or beyond.
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Of course they could still have a big nuclear accident but I am
beginning to think this is not assured, and hence becomes a matter of
some concern. What will we do if the Earthers bring their cultures of
insanity and violence to our space?
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In their current "form" they cannot even begin to communicate
meaningfully with our delegates, translators notwithstanding. Perhaps
they will develop artificial intelligences that exceed their
native capacities and which would therefore be capable, in principle,
of interface.
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Even in that case the problem shifts position only slightly if they
retain their delusional belief systems.
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I suppose the question of change must be revisted. Can these Earthers
make changes to their biology and improve the quality of their
reasoning?
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We'll ignore the issue of terrestrial politics for the moment and
simply consider whether their current level of technological progress
would allow it. I think the answer is a qualified "yes", but I am in
no way prepared to say whether they are capable of changing enough
within the time remaining.
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Rather than wait for the actual specialists to weigh in, I would still
like to consider what this means.
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Their major obstacles are political and sociological. The politics
driving their general socio-economic systems is unable to handle these
issues properly; the entrenched conservatism rejects nearly everything
non-epsilon with respect to their vector of now.
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On the side of sociology, the majority of Earther individuals are
peasant-level, therefore capable of contributing little more than the
work from their physical labors. This inefficiency allows nearly
unconstrained growth in established fields of
science and technology which are useful to the political economy but
only influences fundamental change as a function of its
unpredictablity in deployment.
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I can't even begin to guess where an impetus to improve their
biological thinking basis would arise
-- or could arise. The concept is several big jumps from the orthodoxy
in any of their religions.
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In this light I suggest that the threat of Earther off-planet
expansion is imminent and that we should begin to discuss what we are
going to do about it
if we cannot interfere directly.
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Sincerely,
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Zinky (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64)
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> Here is Ed Conrad's question. The alien response follows.
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> WHAT DO EXTRATERRESTRIALS WANT FROM US?
> <
> < (An Editorial by Ed Conrad)
> <
> Well, for sure, they wouldn't want our paper money.(too damn
> contaminated, for one thing, transporting bacteria and germs around
> faster than the Orient Express.)
> <
> How about our manpower to serve as slave labor, our incredible work
> force?
> <
> Hmmm! Not really! Not when they know, at best, we
> operate at only about 55- 65 percent efficiency (except in those U.S.-
> outsourced factories overseas which pay 10-15 cents an hour. although
> in rare cases as much as 35).
> <
> Well. how about our advancement in knowledge?
> Ridiculous! WHAT knowledge, compared to theirs?
terrestrial philosophy is kinda interesting but not the mainstream
version of course.
The other interesting thing here is to observe and study spiritually
underdeveloped man use relatively advanced technology without killing
themselves. Statistically we are like a life time alcoholic 130 years
old still drinking whole bottles of Gin every day. We are the
embodiment of sickness that refused to die. This alone offers a
miraculous study object. Something truly unique you wont see again.
> <
> Okay, well, how about our gorgeous planet, with its fresh air, clean
> water, spacious skies and mountains majesty?
> <
> I'd hardly think so, not with our wildebeast tampede of pollution
> (although, perhaps, an affirmative answer if we had asked that same
> question 150-200 years ago).
> <
> Could it be the visitors from outer space savor an education, desiring
> to learn how we've made astounding progress in good will toward our
> fellow man?
> <
> Sorry, Charlie! Another negative, with wars and battles and
> hostilities raging somewhere around the globe almost all the time?
> And, just as bad, they've certainly noticed that most of us can't even
> get along with our neighbors.
> <
> I know! How about our democratic form of government, the concept that
> all people are treated equal (wherever Democracy reigns)?
> <
>
> Hmmm! That's got to be a strikeout, too. The extraterrestrials must
> have noticed that the most dynamic changes in the legal system -- like
> the current U.S. health insurance issue -- usually are rejected by
> corrupt, deep-pocket politicians in order to continue to benefit the
> filthy rich, to make them filty richer, but with absolutely no concern
> for the hardship their infernal greed causes for the common man.
lol, the pharma boys are ephoric over their swineflue swindle
profiteering.
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> To be perfectly honest, after our visitors from outer space get a
> really good idea of who we are and what we're really all about, it's
> rather obvious why they definitely would want NO part of us (not even
> as a meal, since we undoubtedly would make them puke).
> <
> In fact, when Captain Zorbar shakes his head in disgust and finally
> announces, "OK, Xisbar, Turn the ship around because we're heading
> home!" the entire crew will breathe a collective sigh of relief and
> give a rousing cheer.
We are much more funny than that.
Using hypnosis, neurolinguistics and basic lies the humaans can be
made to do just about anything not limited to taking their own lives.
In fact they favor adopted lies over rational thought and self
interest.
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> < AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL RESPONDS
> <
> Zinkag 41 (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64) has
> written:
> <
> There WAS a possibility that humans could contribute to civilizing the
> universe but they have proven to be violent and shortsighted for that.
> Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
Yes, fascinating. The rare occasion where the prime directive doesn't
prevent interaction.
You cant go wrong teaching the humaaans anything new. I mean, look at
them?
Most humaans are quite to insist there is no intelligent life
throughout the galaxies after seeing a single photo from Billy.
They say it is true, they assert it.
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> MAN AS OLD AS COAL
> and
> PROOF OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
> Ed Conradhttp://www.edconrad.com
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> DEATH DOES NOT EXISThttp://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpghttp://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath
> <
Ah, this is that guy selling human body parts on Ebay?
:-)
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http://blog.go-here.nl/propaganda
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