A very important message fro the Mankind - pls read.
Jacques Arongaus
"World message" CHANGE THE WORLD!
"DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!"
Sept 30 - 2003
I have seen UFOs for several years and I've had contacts with some ET
beings.
I am 42, with both a technical education (military jet pilot and air
traffic controller), economic (masters) and management (airport manager).
From the age of six, I've had various spiritual type experiences that are
continually taking on more shape and meaning.
Among the many types of phenomena that have manifested during the last
two years, for example when I received a message on the tri-dimensional
nature of time, while a UFO was hanging over my house and had 'announced'
its presence by a terrific noise, and then when an enormous triangular craft
flew over my house when I was in the process of moving, followed by an
aerial battle of lights lasting 25 minutes, and also multiple apparitions of
celestial lights and ethereal creatures in my house, and finally, after
having learned how to mentally project myself to a place in the presence of
benevolent extraterrestrials, I received the following message on behalf of
their hierarchy. Jean Ederman.
CHANGE THE WORLD!
"DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!"
Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and
should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this
message which matters !
Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience
happiness.
These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have
access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own
power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.
Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel
isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny.
Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.
It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you
choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your
answer as a ballot!
Who are we ?
Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak
unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has
witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it
without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.
A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new
knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your
civilisation is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny
part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.
What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become
possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware
that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as
well as the best.
Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that
some name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.
There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the
experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organised
structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based
upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy
that we turn to you.
Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore
we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic
Brotherhood.
Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us
humanoid-shaped.
Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive
it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. You
fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure
instruments most of the time.
We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this
collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this
message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally.
We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your
decision.
Why aren't we visible ?
At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities" discover new forms
of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured
dematerialisation and materialisation are part of them. This is what your
humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with
other "extra-terrestrial" creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises
that remain purposedly hidden from you by some of your representatives.
Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by
your scientific community, that you call 'UFOs, there are essentially
multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.Many
human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with
such ships, some of which are under occult powers that "govern" you. The
scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided
by the dematerialised state of these ships.
By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their
existence. We fully understand this.
The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so
as to touch the soul and not to modify any organised system. This is
deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons
and results.
For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise
of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their
will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.
For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will
that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach
technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind's entrance into the
family of galactic civilisations is greatly expected.
We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We
haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because
of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the
situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count
the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms
of objects when it is all about conscious beings.
Who are you ?
You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have
been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The same applies to
the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect
of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your
cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute it to your
deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle
nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes
the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.
You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it
for its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape makes us
love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists
in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.
To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are
decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would
reflect the image of what you are in reality.
What is your situation ?
Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little
incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions about
your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep
psychological mechanisms.
We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being
becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid
of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous,
brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially
maintained for the profit of a growing centralising power.
Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions.
But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the
growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the
earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely
losing your extraordinary capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience
will artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such
technologies exist that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans
are on their way.
This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even
if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This is the
reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish
should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to
come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.
But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ? Should you
anticipate or undergo pain ?
Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between
peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often
conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others.
Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still
conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and
intensity.
Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential
capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the
biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical.
There are several billion of you. The education of your children and
your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and
much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your
political, financial, military and religious representatives.
Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to
turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling that you
are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.
But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules
of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror.
Biasing information is a millenary strategy for human beings. Inducting
thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc
technologies is an even older a strategy.
Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and
destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you
can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources
is programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched.
Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The
scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which entry
price will rise day after day - will bring about fratricide fights at a
large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.
Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident
in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and
a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.
Human behaviours, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an
inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust these
problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well-being slowly
fades away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They
are always debating on the form but rarely on the content.
Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when
you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than
ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and
significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.
What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any
civilisation ? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come from,
that will stop this blind rushing ahead ?
Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and
interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human
family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.
A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very
positive but also very negative aspects.
Who are the "third party" ?
There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another
civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals
without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second
way brings awareness.
The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping
mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and
human emotional energy.
The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of
the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested
cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the
human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible
interests with their strategic vision.
That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves
without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to
those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness,
we propose it now to ... you!
Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise
of those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor
accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly
taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that
is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the
near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives
are fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against
you. It is difficult to recognize the truth !
How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is
so much manipulated ? What are you really free of ?
Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward
the harmony with civilisations other than yours.
That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want
to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over
those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate
mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature.
This message would be of no interest if these manipulators' tutorate
did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not
materialise in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind
will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.
To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you
need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.
As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those
dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the
dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is extremely
difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your
intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come.
Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you
to an alternative.
What can we offer ?
We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life,
constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal
relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of suffering,
controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new forms of energy
and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.
We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or
bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves,
individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit
of quest to new skies.
What would we receive ?
Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice
over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the
universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that
you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is
strongly sought in the universe for its energy is divine.
What is the question we ask you ?
"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"
How to can you answer this question ?
The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly
ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or
in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a
desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY
AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself
but thinking about the message.
This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their
context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way.
This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to
perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that
you answer right after another reading of this message.
Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free
will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are ! The problems that you may
have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel
the force that springs up in you. You are in control of yourselves !
A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near
future, in one way as in another.
Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up
on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us.
Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are
essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own
will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.
In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will
determine the future.
What is the lever effect ?
This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even
though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this
message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to
those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of
the future.
Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You
can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more
comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised
your free will.
Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been
transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that
can be asked to you. Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is
your right as well as your responsibility !
Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision
is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is
something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to
choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this
is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !
Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were
able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.
Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and
influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically
change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia
and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's birth to Brotherhood.
One of your thinkers once said: "Give me a hand-hold and I'll raise
the Earth".
Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we
will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ... raise
the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.
What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?
For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable decision
would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.
For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many
certitudes and beliefs.
A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on
your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organisation of
your societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in all fields of activity.
Power would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are
living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your values !
The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single
family in front of this "unknown" we would represent !
Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would
indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the "third party", to
show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same
roots: Mankind !
Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if
such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is fearful
cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to
such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an
inner light.
This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.
Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative
appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings,
collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts
of the galaxy.
Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide
by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external
and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We
would leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do.
Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world,
several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our "great
appearance", if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will
have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the
necessary support.
The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a
strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple : we
are technically equipped to materialise!
Why such a historical dilemma ?
We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they
embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will
generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.
How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your
collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been
already there for a long time at your level of existence ! If we are not
there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitely.
Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a
deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this
would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you
haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you
?
How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre
of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more
efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn't the
terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example ?
Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever
your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of human
representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore
everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without
your consent.
In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not
trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the
Pandora's box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever
your decision may be you will have to get out of it.
In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need
to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply
believe what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!
After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be
inevitable: choosing between two unknowns.
Why spread such a message among yourselves ?
Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your
future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of milleniums,
otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years
later, at least one generation, if it can survive.
Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not
informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is
contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one's
free will.
It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.
It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective
assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded.
Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.
Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural
shock in today's mankind's history. It will then be too late to regret about
not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be
irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about
it ! And decide !
The big medias will not be necessarely interested in spreading this
message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary
thinking and loving being, to transmit it.
You are still the architects of your own fate...
"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"
Pete Charest
> I am 42, with both a technical education (military jet pilot and air
>traffic controller), economic (masters) and management (airport manager).
>From the age of six, I've had various spiritual type experiences that are
>continually taking on more shape and meaning.
There are at least 6 bold-faced out and out lies in that paragraph.
I suggest you cease posting before you get yourself into serious
trouble.
---
Pete Charest
KookSpotter
If you're not insulted, you're not a kook.
Steve
>> I am 42, with both a technical education (military jet pilot and air
>>traffic controller), economic (masters) and management (airport manager).
>
>>From the age of six, I've had various spiritual type experiences that are
>
>>continually taking on more shape and meaning.
>
>
> There are at least 6 bold-faced out and out lies in that paragraph.
>
> I suggest you cease posting before you get yourself into serious
> trouble.
Maybe it's just me, but the thought of an air traffic controller having
profound spiritual experiences is very disturbing (I speak as a pilot).
For the same reason I prefer not to fly on the flag airlines of
predominantly Buddhist countries: it doesn't raise my confidence when
the pilot believes in reincarnation.
God
NG's posted by other people.
I find it an interesting document as it left me without any questions. Every
question that occurred as I was reading it, appeared in the next paragraph,
answered. I can't say I remember that ever happening to me before.
I'd like for the intelligent out there to go through this document and tell
me why it should be dismissed as either a rambling of a mentally ill patient
or other. My mind is eerily closed on this one and I admit I answered as
instructed in the document. I don't expect anyone else to admit it but I
would appreciate it if someone would point out why I am a fool for doing
this. I like to laugh at myself on occasion.
Please discuss this document other than the credibility of the purported
original poster.
My only question would be the instruction to translate it into other
languages and distribute it. Why not post it in every language? Why not use
a contact from each language like the English speaking one that has been
used here? Surely one man cannot be responsible for it's initial
distribution.
Let's have a heated debate!
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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Harlow
> He'll not see your reply. It's a cross-post. I'm sure I've seen it in other
> NG's posted by other people.
>
> languages and distribute it. Why not post it in every language? Why not use
> a contact from each language like the English speaking one that has been
> used here? Surely one man cannot be responsible for it's initial
> distribution.
>
> Let's have a heated debate!
Request Denied
You are a faggot.
God
But I'll let it pass as your anal fixation kinda makes me feel sorry for
you.
"Harlow" <agodshotat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Pete Charest
>He'll not see your reply. It's a cross-post. I'm sure I've seen it in other
>NG's posted by other people.
>
>I find it an interesting document as it left me without any questions.
That's just because you are simply and profoundly stupid. The document
you mention is full of bullshit and is not factual in any way.
>Please discuss this document other than the credibility of the purported
>original poster.
Both are identically insignificant. Both are collections of lies.
>
>Let's have a heated debate!
Take your homosexual offers elsewhere.
God
> >I find it an interesting document as it left me without any questions.
>
> That's just because you are simply and profoundly stupid. The document
> you mention is full of bullshit and is not factual in any way.
You must have questions then to render me "profoundly stupid"? This is what
I mean. I want examples. I actually want to find holes in this. That's why I
asked. Nothing in there is easily dismissed bullshit as far as I could tell
but if you know better AND can provide examples then I want to know.
Calling me a homo only displays your own limitations (maybe you and Harlow
have something special in common there) . If you would rather not discuss
this issue... then please do not discuss this issue.
I prefer women as it happens and they prefer me... It all works out quite
nicely here for the record.
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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God
It's not an immediate decision. Hypothetically, if this was a genuine
instruction and the questions posed here were valid and you sat and thought
about your vote. You would way it up. What does it mean? Massive changes to
everything. Absolutely everything. Upheaval and a lot of upset to the
current situation. Everything we depend on right now will become immediately
invalid and outdated. It's not easy to say YES because of this factor alone.
It's easy to say YES from the heart because we all want fairness and
equality but the mind has to vote as well and the mind is very much
programmed to evaluate on a financial level as this is what depicts our
current survival rate with our current systems. Money = Survival. Our brain
is there to extend our survival rate primarily. Survival has become money
now rather than avoidance of other animals higher on the food chain.
This is why we have a lot of gray over this issue rather than black or
white. It needs to be thought through. It doesn't matter how many times I
ask myself this question, I always hesitate in answering it.
"Charles D. Bohne" <Charle...@PasoSchweiz.de> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:38:08 +0100, "God" <H...@ven.net> wrote:
>
> >Please discuss this document other than the credibility of the purported
> >original poster.
>
> The contradiction is in "them" claiming to be able to read our
> minds/thoughts but, nevertheless, we should "vote". ... Why would
> "they" need a ballot while having ALL the data about our wants,
> likes and problems?
> HTH.
> C.
Pete Charest
>OK well examples would help your argument. .
>
>> >I find it an interesting document as it left me without any questions.
>>
>> That's just because you are simply and profoundly stupid. The document
>> you mention is full of bullshit and is not factual in any way.
>
>You must have questions then to render me "profoundly stupid"?
Nope, no question about it. You are most definitely a profoundly
stupid person.
>This is what
>I mean. I want examples. I actually want to find holes in this. That's why I
>asked. Nothing in there is easily dismissed bullshit as far as I could tell
Then there is a perfect example of your profound stupidity. A normally
intelligent person has no difficulty dismissing the bullshit of that
so-called document.
>but if you know better AND can provide examples then I want to know.
No, you don't. You would prefer to wallow in your igorance, like most
of your kook brethren.
>Calling me a homo only displays your own limitations
Not really...it's just that I find it funny.
>(maybe you and Harlow
>have something special in common there) . If you would rather not discuss
>this issue... then please do not discuss this issue.
The issue is that you are a profoundly stupid person, and I am happy
to provide further examples if you wish.
God
came up with one which you didn't.. You are a troll and you have the ability
of providing examples to match!
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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Pete Charest
>You can't even muster up one example? More examples makes it sound like you
>came up with one which you didn't.. You are a troll and you have the ability
>of providing examples to match!
Here's another example. Profoundly stupid persons are often
top-posters and scumbags.
You appear to be both.
Harlow
> OK well examples would help your argument. .
>
> > >I find it an interesting document as it left me without any questions.
> >
> > That's just because you are simply and profoundly stupid. The document
> > you mention is full of bullshit and is not factual in any way.
>
> I mean. I want examples. I actually want to find holes in this. That's why I
> asked. Nothing in there is easily dismissed bullshit as far as I could tell
I would say that you are "profoundly" queer.
How much dick do you suck per day?
On average.....
God
realise the significance of quotation marks yea?
"Harlow" <agodshotat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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God
before and never got a reply as to why. As for scumbag? well you have given
a lot away about yourself in that statement and I thank you for not having
to provide anymore. Goodbye.
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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God
given us. We need to take a leap of faith on this issue. I feel that if this
were a genuine question then that leap would be YES.
I am personally happy to be a follower than a leader if the leader looks
honest and genuine. That doesn't happen here right now ever. Our leaders are
rarely honest or genuine. I can trust anyone who can prove to me they can be
trusted and that is yet to happen. I have to think of all the people that
have investments to look out for like mortgages and or loans etc.
Commitments etc. There will be tremendous upheaval if this were to really
happen and there is NO easy path to switch over that I can see if it were to
happen. Those people with those commitments will be a voting majority I
suspect and that is the bigger issue on this subject right now. I don't
think I would gamble with that much to lose if I was commited like that. I
would gamble though without hesitation without that commitment.
This is the question that everyone needs to ask themselves I think.
Commited is how a few people would prefer me I suspect!
Bohne" <Charle...@PasoSchweiz.de> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:26:21 +0100, "God" <H...@ven.net> wrote:
>
> >It's a gray area though. Excuse the pun!
> >It's not an immediate decision. Hypothetically, if this was a genuine
> >instruction and the questions posed here were valid and you sat and
thought
> >about your vote. You would way it up. What does it mean? Massive changes
to
> >everything. Absolutely everything. Upheaval and a lot of upset to the
> >current situation. Everything we depend on right now will become
immediately
> >invalid and outdated. It's not easy to say YES because of this factor
alone.
> >It's easy to say YES from the heart because we all want fairness and
> >equality but the mind has to vote as well and the mind is very much
> >programmed to evaluate on a financial level as this is what depicts our
> >current survival rate with our current systems. Money = Survival. Our
brain
> >is there to extend our survival rate primarily. Survival has become money
> >now rather than avoidance of other animals higher on the food chain.
> >This is why we have a lot of gray over this issue rather than black or
> >white. It needs to be thought through. It doesn't matter how many times I
> >ask myself this question, I always hesitate in answering it.
>
>
> If you're not a member of the lucky few who own everything on this
> planet, you should not hesitate to want a change like that. And even
> though I am, my heart longs for this change ever since my first
> birthday.
> HTH.
> C.
>
> P.S.: Money= Suppression of the masses
Harlow
> Nice one.. you even highlighted the word you stole in quotations? You DO
> realise the significance of quotation marks yea?
Yes....It means that you suck more dick than the average queer.
Pete Charest
>I don't know what a top poster is as it happens.
There's another example of profound stupidity on your part. There
seems to be lots of things "you don't know", isn't there?
> I've been called that
>before and never got a reply as to why.
That's because you have been too profoundly stupid to discern either
the reason or the explanation. You are a scumbag dumbass.
Oh...by the way, your name sucks.
> As for scumbag? well you have given
>a lot away about yourself in that statement
Presume what you will, it doesn't increase your level of stupidity
from the depths of profundity.
> and I thank you for not having
>to provide anymore. Goodbye.
Ahhh...a top-posting chickenshit sky pixie who is profoundly stupid.
Not surprising, really.
Pete Charest
>I am personally happy to be a follower than a leader
I thought you homo's called it 'catcher' and 'pitcher'?
Ancient Star
of Africa," theme -- but with a nice little change, i.e., "we respect
you equally with ourselves ("golden Rule")," and not the "better than
thou, go cover your naked bodies" routine -- but "be naked if you want
to."
But not withstanding, everything stated is true, and correct, and sounds
very much like an "old," over-used, worn-out message from the 70's. I
also, keep wondering why, anyone, with such high spiritual, mental, and
physical endowments and development, would even consider 'wasting' their
precious time on such 'primitive animal' mentalities, as found in human
form here, on this planet -- some even in this very group.
Unfortunately, none of us can help in the development of someone else's
'brain.' This is done by an individual himself, with much conscious
effort, and control -- thereby 'training,' and 'developing' the grey
matter -- actually a 'state of the art,' electronic 'muscle,' which sits
in the control room of the 'electro-magnetic' soul-house. A "desire"
is the actual activator, motivator, and "controller" here.
Anyway, what would be the point of hundreds of space craft appearing in
mass formation in the heavens over any city (no matter how many
"votes")? Wouldn't it only put gross 'fear' and hysteria into the
hearts of the thousands, and millions of uninformed, and unenlightened,
worldwide. Yes -- everybody would indeed "unite" -- but against our
"aliens." Those deceptive, ulterior-motive, "invaders" -- you
know.
Kat
"What" past Earthmen have really done:
http://community.webtv.net/Katsscan/AncientMoons
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
God
You are cheap by a long way.
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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God
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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God
Beaches! Steaks! you poor sucker!
"Pete Charest" <Big...@SharpTeeth.com> wrote in message
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Pete Charest
>Let you entertain us. Thank you and I didn't have to even pay for the clown.
>You are cheap by a long way.
Obviously English is not your first language, or are you this
profoundly stupid in your native language as well?
Merl Turkin
>> You must have questions then to render me "profoundly stupid"? This is
>> what I mean. I want examples. I actually want to find holes in this.
>> That's why I asked. Nothing in there is easily dismissed bullshit as far
>> as I could tell but if you know better AND can provide examples then I
>> want to know. Calling me a homo only displays your own limitations
>
> I would say that you are "profoundly" queer.
>
> How much dick do you suck per day?
>
> On average.....
You have a real big obsession with dick sucking it seems.
You seem to have "issues".
Harlow
> > I would say that you are "profoundly" queer.
> >
> > How much dick do you suck per day?
> >
> > On average.....
>
>
> You have a real big obsession with dick sucking it seems.
So what? You got a problem with that Earl ?
It's my job to spot the faggots here. Seems like I've spotted another one.
Are you from Texas, Earl?
> You seem to have "issues".
And YOU seem to have "tissues".
Boo-fucking-hoo
Otis Reed
(Harlow) wrote:
>"Merl Turkin" <Te...@astroburp.net> wrote in message news:bmdu9v$nhs$0...@216.221.129.15...
>> > I would say that you are "profoundly" queer.
>> >
>> > How much dick do you suck per day?
>> >
>> > On average.....
>>
>>
>> You have a real big obsession with dick sucking it seems.
>
>So what? You got a problem with that Earl ?
>
>It's my job to spot the faggots here. Seems like I've spotted another one.
>
Harlow has a PHD in faggotry.
He has a masters degree in cock sucking.
Typical athiest. First thing he does after denying
god is to shove a big cock up his ass. Go figure.
Did you spot your buddy Pete trying to do the 'backstroke'
with Penny the Poem ? I bet you are jealous with Pete
cheating on you and all.
When are you going to get that promotion ?
You work so hard at fag spotting ,when do you
get to be the official sperm catcher for the group ?
Let me know so I can have my DSL cancelled.
Harlow
> Typical athiest. First thing he does after denying
> god is to shove a big cock up his ass. Go figure.
God is gay...I proved that using precise imperial logic.
PS- How bout you, Rick....If god demanded it, would you let him
fuck you up the ol tailpipe ?
sockp...@nowhere.net
>It's a gray area though.
sockpuppet says: Greys don't "matter".
>Excuse the pun!
sockpuppet says: We love punch.
>It's not an immediate decision.
sockpuppet says: It's not YOUR decision, at all.
>Hypothetically, if this was a genuine
>instruction ....
sockpuppet says: ...which it is not.
>and the questions posed here were valid
sockpuppet says: ... what they are not.
> and you sat and thought
>about your vote.
sockpuppet says: ... instead of waiting for "Godot".
>You would way it up.
sockpuppet says: It's always been here.
>What does it mean?
sockpuppet says: Absolutely nothing.
>Massive changes to
>everything.
sockpuppet says: Au contraire.
>Absolutely everything.
sockpuppet says: No.
>Upheaval and a lot of upset to the
>current situation.
sockpuppet says: One cannot worsen the current situation.
>Everything we depend on right now will become immediately
>invalid and outdated.
sockpuppet says: There is nothing that "we" depend on. You would
simply change the currency, like you did in Europe and you do in Iraq.
>It's not easy to say YES because of this factor alone.
sockpuppet says: Your masters will be exchanged. This happened
very often in your history. Have you ever been asked?
>It's easy to say YES from the heart because we all want fairness and
>equality but the mind has to vote as well and the mind is very much
>programmed to evaluate on a financial level as this is what depicts our
>current survival rate with our current systems. Money = Survival.
sockpuppet says: There will be an exchange of currency. The color will
change from green to red.
>Our brain
>is there to extend our survival rate primarily.
sockpuppet says: It didn't work out very well.
>Survival has become money
>now rather than avoidance of other animals higher on the food chain.
sockpuppet says: The most dangerous animals are still on the top.
>This is why we have a lot of gray over this issue rather than black or
>white.
sockpuppet says: You could as well "gray over the issue" whether the
sun should shine.
>It needs to be thought through. It doesn't matter how many times I
>ask myself this question, I always hesitate in answering it.
>
sockpuppet says: That's why nobody will ever ask you.
>
>"Charles D. Bohne" <Charle...@PasoSchweiz.de> wrote in message
>news:s7fiovc2rs3op2qbs...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:38:08 +0100, "God" <H...@ven.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Please discuss this document other than the credibility of the purported
>> >original poster.
>>
>> The contradiction is in "them" claiming to be able to read our
>> minds/thoughts but, nevertheless, we should "vote". ... Why would
>> "they" need a ballot while having ALL the data about our wants,
>> likes and problems?
>> HTH.
>> C.
>
sockpuppet says: YOU ARE "THEM".