False Allegations of CSA and Ken Pangborn
Michael Dobony
published, ONE report. It does not appear to be research as much as a
review of other research. His publication is available only from him.
Evidently nobody wants to publish it and is quite old.
Pangborn, K. (1980). Children at Risk: Summary of Findings &
Recommendations from a Study of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect
Treatment Projects. Children at Risk: Summary of Findings & Recommendations
from a Study of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment Projects,
Retrieved March 9, 2009, from SocINDEX with Full Text database.
It was very difficult to get any hard research on the subject, but one
review states somewhere between 2 and 8% of allegations of allegations of
CSA are false. This includes both blatant lies and illegitimate pressure
to get a conviction by prosecutors and investigators.
Mike D.
Greegor
Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
that you found one hit for Ken?
Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
publications?
Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
produced at the request of government?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.adoption/msg/f32849f6b61759c4?hl=en&dmode=source
Newsgroups: alt.adoption
From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:43:58 -0500
Local: Tues, Mar 10 2009 8:43 am
Subject: False Allegations of CSA and Ken Pangborn
krp
"Greegor" <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c8bd95f0-e260-4256...@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> Mike: Why is it that you posted widely that you didn't find
> Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
> that you found one hit for Ken?
> Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
> publications?
It it INFALLIBLE?
> Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
> it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
> produced at the request of government?
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.adoption/msg/f32849f6b61759c4?hl=en&dmode=source
> Newsgroups: alt.adoption
> From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:43:58 -0500
> Local: Tues, Mar 10 2009 8:43 am
> Subject: False Allegations of CSA and Ken Pangborn
Interesting trick AGAIN. Post shit where I can't read it and LOUDLY
PROCLAIM VICTORY.. Such INTEGRITY!
> Per EBSCO, it is technically true that a Ken Pangborn is published, SELF
> published, ONE report. It does not appear to be research as much as a
> review of other research. His publication is available only from him.
> Evidently nobody wants to publish it and is quite old.
> Pangborn, K. (1980). Children at Risk: Summary of Findings &
> Recommendations from a Study of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect
> Treatment Projects. Children at Risk: Summary of Findings &
> Recommendations
> from a Study of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment
> Projects, Retrieved March 9, 2009, from SocINDEX with Full Text database.
I wonder if our guy is willing to stake his life on it being "self
published?"
> It was very difficult to get any hard research on the subject, but one
> review states somewhere between 2 and 8% of allegations of allegations
> of CSA are false. This includes both blatant lies and illegitimate
> pressure to get a conviction by prosecutors and investigators.
No it isn't hard. The DATA is reported EVERY year to HHS through the
National Center on Child Abuse And Neglect. the 2% claim is BULLSHIT!
The STOP ASSAULT NOW address should tell anyone about a slight BIAS here.
krp
>> From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
Shall we look at MIKE'S website to catch a little idea of his OBJECTIVITY?
Because a woman is raped every 46 seconds somewhere in the U.S.
"My relatives talk about this boy who lived with my parents before that
fateful morning. I never knew this child. They talk about this outgoing,
carefree child that ceased to exist one early morning around my 5th birthday
before my parents got up. I heard the rustling in the other room and got up
quickly, thinking my abuser had returned as he promised, but it was my
father getting ready for work. My abuser, the "Big Bad Wolf," never
returned. That child my relatives talk about died that morning, not even
leaving me any memories of him. In his place was a very insecure, shy child
who could not relate well to others, desperate for attention, affection, and
approval."
Every 46 seconds Mike? Sounds like many in a country of about 300
MILLION, doesn't it?
Greegor
college and how far along are you?
Why did you post that Ken was not published
less than an hour after you posted that he was?
krp
Interesting if one is smugly suggesting great credibility and
contradicts himself in less than an hour. His "source" is at least somewhat
questionable in its completeness. But that issue is for another day as is
the FOR PROFIT nature of the publisher of that list of lists.
Dan Sullivan
> Mike: Why is it that you posted widely that you didn't find
> Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
> that you found one hit for Ken?
>
> Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
> publications?
>
> Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
> it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
> produced at the request of government?
>
>
> Newsgroups: alt.adoption
> From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:43:58 -0500
> Local: Tues, Mar 10 2009 8:43 am
> Subject: False Allegations of CSA and Ken Pangborn
>
> Per EBSCO, it is technically true that a Ken Pangborn is published,
> SELF
> published, ONE report. It does not appear to be research as much as
> a
> review of other research. His publication is available only from
> him.
> Evidently nobody wants to publish it and is quite old.
We've been thru this before, Mike.
kenny boy summarized the information from a few studies into one.
He did no research personally.
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1e54e506-7e80-4ae8...@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> Mike: Why is it that you posted widely that you didn't find
> Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
> that you found one hit for Ken?
>
> Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
> publications?
> Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
> it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
> produced at the request of government?
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.adoption/msg/f32849f6b61759c4?hl=e...
>
> Newsgroups: alt.adoption
> From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:43:58 -0500
> Local: Tues, Mar 10 2009 8:43 am
> Subject: False Allegations of CSA and Ken Pangborn
>
> Per EBSCO, it is technically true that a Ken Pangborn is published,
> SELF published, ONE report. It does not appear to be research as much as
> a review of other research. His publication is available only from
> him.Evidently nobody wants to publish it and is quite old.
What was gthe name of *MY* publishing company then??
DS> We've been thru this before, Mike.
Maybe 30 or 40 times in the past 3 years.
DS> kenny boy summarized the information from a few studies into one. He did
no research personally.
Not quite accurate Danny. Not EVEN accurate at all. We took the data
from the available states, broke them out, compiled them and subjected them
to analysis. Using a computer to compare the demographic data. A little
more than a CASUAL SUMMARY as YOU - who wasn't dere Charlie - want to
FALSELY CLAIM.
Tell me asswipe. What have YOU ever written/ Even self published? When
have YOU ever done even a SUMMARFY of anything but the number of sheets on a
roll of toilet paper on your NAPPER CRAPPER, Danny/ When have YOU - EVER
been asked by ANY branch of government to do ANYTHING for them? Whhen have
YOU been invited to testify before Congress on ANYTHING including your own
abundant flatulence? Whan have YOU - - the GREAT DAN SULLIVAN been
interviewed and quoted by ANY Newspaper including the weekly shopper, Danny?
Like WHO ARE YOU other than a jealous little TOAD?
> Pangborn, K. (1980). Children at Risk: Summary of Findings &
> Recommendations from a Study of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect
> Treatment Projects. Children at Risk: Summary of Findings &
> Recommendations
> from a Study of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment
> Projects, Retrieved March 9, 2009, from SocINDEX with Full Text database.
>
Danny tell us about all of YOUR great writings and academic work?????
WHAT have YOU done, beside be INSANELY JEALOUS of me? What fukkking
accomplishment do you have in life aside from being a STUPID PUNK? Where is
all YOUR GREAT WORK in the Library of Congress? Your problem, Sullivan is
that you are a ZERO in life. No contributions at all other than your
bellowing bullshit on Usenet. NADA! ZIP! ZILCH! Sullivan you are a NOTHING
and the ONLY thing you can do is to TRY to tear down the work of people who
HAVE done something.
Mikey is a "TRUE BELIEVER" semi-religious fanatic. He's not gonna like
me because TO HIM - I am the ENEMY - "SATAN." So he has to try to destroy
me. It's his Christian belief system. Buy YOU - Danny, by ANY objective
standard you have inscribed on your forehead "FAILURE" because in all the
years of your life you are a NOTHING! You have not contributed anything
POSITIVE
to society. ALL you have, ALL of what you have is your bullshit on Usenet.
That's ALL there is to you.
Michael Dobony
Here we go again, typical abuser behavior. You can't prove your position
so you attack other who exposed you.
Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased against abuse and abusers. I want
to help women and children avoid abuse. How much do I make doing this? I
have NEVER made a profit. What is your motivation?
Greegor
Is this what Jesus would do?
MD > You can't prove your position
MD > so you attack other who exposed you.
MD >
MD > Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased
MD > against abuse and abusers. I want
MD > to help women and children avoid abuse.
And to hell with men or keeping families whole?
Even if you have to "bear false witness" about
stats to exaggerate your personal crusade?
MD > How much do I make doing this? I
MD > have NEVER made a profit.
MD > What is your motivation?
Tell us about your ministry.
You took a vow of poverty?
What's your degree program all about there in Joplin?
How many years along are you?
krp
"Michael Dobony" <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
news:1xtar3ajh0712.p...@40tude.net...
I can't prove MY position? You stumble all over yourself. One place
saying you could only find ONE article I wrote (BOOK) and then in another
"SWEARING" that there is nothing listed. I have given you way more of the
benefit of the doubty on this than you deserve. Which is it, ONE or NONE?
Pick a lane Mike? ONE OR NONE? Have you ever bothered to READ EBSCO'S
disclaimer on their database? ONLY YOY claim it is all inclusive and
infallible. THEY do NOT!
> Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased against abuse and abusers. I want
> to help women and children avoid abuse. How much do I make doing this? I
> have NEVER made a profit. What is your motivation?
You are a Christian fundamentalist extremist Mike. You see bogeymen
(SATAN) where he doesn't exist. In MY OPINION he has his hands on YOUR
throat. I have YET to find a "Fundie" that I found to be completely honest.
They are absolutists. They TRY to warp God's word to their own prejudices,
which is why for hundreds of years they PREACHED that Slavery was ordained
by GOD. I could go on. In this case you are a "TRUE BELIEVER" and there is
only ONE true path. YOURS!!!!
Mike - here's a FACT. While YOU don't do what you do for MONEY, do DO it
for something VASTLY more evil. Imposing your will on others. I, of course,
work to help the WRONGLY ACCUSED (you don't believe there are any such
people) and do it for money. Which of the two of us is more honest? I don't
hide what I do, my motives and the rest. YOU DO! You are DESPERATE to try to
find something to convince YOURSELF (and THAT is what this is REALLY all
about) that I am EVIL INCARNATE. You MUST believe it, or you'd have to look
at your whole belief system and you can't do that.
With your C*H*R*I*S*T*I*A*N belief system - there is ONLY ONE TRUE
PATH - that's the one YOU are on. It's the one YOU PREACH! Can we say A-MEN?
Praise JEEEEEEEEEZUZZZZ! Hallelujah!
What do you think you "EXPOSED" Mike? You can't even make up your mind.
None or one? One or none? Pick a lane, Mike.
krp
MD > Here we go again, typical abuser behavior.
GH> Is this what Jesus would do?
Of course not! What did he say about CASTING STONES??? Mike didn't get
that part.
MD > You can't prove your position
MD > so you attack other who exposed you.
MD >
MD > Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased
MD > against abuse and abusers. I want
MD > to help women and children avoid abuse.
GH> And to hell with men or keeping families whole?
GH> Even if you have to "bear false witness" about
GH> stats to exaggerate your personal crusade?
You are NOT suggesting "FALSE WITNESS" are you Greg? MIKE???? NEVER!!!
He's INFALLIBLE. In fact Mikle taught Jesus the walking on water trick.
MD > How much do I make doing this? I
MD > have NEVER made a profit.
MD > What is your motivation?
GH> Tell us about your ministry. You took a vow of poverty?
Yes, Mike sees this as his "MINISTRY" his "CALLING" for the Lord. Of
course he doesn't see his OWN "abuser" behavior.
krp
"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:76db2e53182275d7...@dizum.com...
> From: Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com>
> Mike: Why is it that you posted widely that you didn't find
> Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
> that you found one hit for Ken?
> Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
> publications?
> Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
> it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
> produced at the request of government?
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.adoption/msg/f32849f6b61759c4?hl=en&dmode=source
> Lying fucktard Grag. Pangborn's dumb shit was a review of other
> material that had been produced at the request of the government. The
> government didn't request that THAT piece of shit nobody nothing do any
> research. Why would they? He has never been to college, holds no real
> degree of any kind and doesn't even know how to do research. 90% of
> everything he says is wrong, made up or just outright lies. You are as
> stupid as he is.
Davey are you NOW claiming that you READ it???? Or are you LYING
again???????? Or is it STILL.
On what do your base your FACT CLAIM that it was merely a "REVIEW OF OTHER
MATERIAL?"
Are you as dumb as Sullivan who thinks it was done on a dime store
"CALCULATOR?"
Michael Dobony
You call a "government sponsored report" of 38 pages a book? If it was
indeed government sponsored it would be publicly available and NOT just
self-published. You still refuse to identify the mysterious journals you
have articles published in. They can't be found and you refuse to identify
the journal and date published.
>
>> Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased against abuse and abusers. I want
>> to help women and children avoid abuse. How much do I make doing this? I
>> have NEVER made a profit. What is your motivation?
>
> You are a Christian fundamentalist extremist Mike. You see bogeymen
> (SATAN) where he doesn't exist. In MY OPINION he has his hands on YOUR
> throat. I have YET to find a "Fundie" that I found to be completely honest.
> They are absolutists. They TRY to warp God's word to their own prejudices,
> which is why for hundreds of years they PREACHED that Slavery was ordained
> by GOD. I could go on. In this case you are a "TRUE BELIEVER" and there is
> only ONE true path. YOURS!!!!
>
> Mike - here's a FACT. While YOU don't do what you do for MONEY, do DO it
> for something VASTLY more evil. Imposing your will on others. I, of course,
> work to help the WRONGLY ACCUSED (you don't believe there are any such
> people) and do it for money.
You are imposing YOUR twisted agenda on us. You defend abusers and mock
those who want to stop abuse.
Which of the two of us is more honest? I don't
> hide what I do, my motives and the rest. YOU DO! You are DESPERATE to try to
> find something to convince YOURSELF (and THAT is what this is REALLY all
> about) that I am EVIL INCARNATE. You MUST believe it, or you'd have to look
> at your whole belief system and you can't do that.
If you don't hide what you do, give us the journal and date of your
publications. Government research on social issues is subject to OPEN
PUBLICATION! Maybe we should sue you and the government agency that
"hired" you to make this research public!
>
> With your C*H*R*I*S*T*I*A*N belief system - there is ONLY ONE TRUE
> PATH - that's the one YOU are on. It's the one YOU PREACH! Can we say A-MEN?
> Praise JEEEEEEEEEZUZZZZ! Hallelujah!
>
> What do you think you "EXPOSED" Mike? You can't even make up your mind.
> None or one? One or none? Pick a lane, Mike.
YOU are openly making false accusations against me. YOU are the one who
refuses to give simple evidence of your journal publications. YOU are the
one using typical abuser tactics.
krp
>>
>>>>> Mike: Why is it that you posted widely that you didn't find
>>>>> Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
>>>>> that you found one hit for Ken?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
>>>>> publications?
>>>>
>>>>> Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
>>>>> it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
>>>>> produced at the request of government?
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.adoption/msg/f32849f6b61759c4?hl=e...
>>>>>
>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.adoption
>>>>> From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:43:58 -0500
>>>>> Local: Tues, Mar 10 2009 8:43 am
>>>>> Subject: False Allegations of CSA and Ken Pangborn
>>>>>
>>>>> Per EBSCO, it is technically true that a Ken Pangborn is published,
>>>>> SELF published, ONE report. It does not appear to be research as much
>>>>> as
>>>>> a review of other research. His publication is available only from
>>>>> him.Evidently nobody wants to publish it and is quite old.
>>>>
NAME THE PUBLISHER MIKEY! Since now you are claiming to have READ it.
>>> Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased against abuse and abusers. I
>>> want
>>> to help women and children avoid abuse. How much do I make doing this?
>>> I
>>> have NEVER made a profit. What is your motivation?
>>
>> You are a Christian fundamentalist extremist Mike. You see bogeymen
>> (SATAN) where he doesn't exist. In MY OPINION he has his hands on YOUR
>> throat. I have YET to find a "Fundie" that I found to be completely
>> honest.
>> They are absolutists. They TRY to warp God's word to their own
>> prejudices,
>> which is why for hundreds of years they PREACHED that Slavery was
>> ordained
>> by GOD. I could go on. In this case you are a "TRUE BELIEVER" and there
>> is
>> only ONE true path. YOURS!!!!
>>
>> Mike - here's a FACT. While YOU don't do what you do for MONEY, do DO
>> it
>> for something VASTLY more evil. Imposing your will on others. I, of
>> course,
>> work to help the WRONGLY ACCUSED (you don't believe there are any such
>> people) and do it for money.
> You are imposing YOUR twisted agenda on us. You defend abusers and mock
> those who want to stop abuse.
You KN OW that we defend the GUILTY, Mike? HOW??? Name your source.
Name the GUILTY people we have defended. By your statements you claim you
CAN. Let's see it Mike. NAME THEM.
> Which of the two of us is more honest? I don't
>> hide what I do, my motives and the rest. YOU DO! You are DESPERATE to try
>> to
>> find something to convince YOURSELF (and THAT is what this is REALLY all
>> about) that I am EVIL INCARNATE. You MUST believe it, or you'd have to
>> look
>> at your whole belief system and you can't do that.
> If you don't hide what you do, give us the journal and date of your
> publications. Government research on social issues is subject to OPEN
> PUBLICATION! Maybe we should sue you and the government agency that
> "hired" you to make this research public!
BY all means SUE Mike. It was the Utah legislature's judiciary committee. I
am CERFTAIN the state of Utah will be THRILLED for you to file your
MILTI-BILLION dollar lawsxuit.
>
>> With your C*H*R*I*S*T*I*A*N belief system - there is ONLY ONE
>> TRUE
>> PATH - that's the one YOU are on. It's the one YOU PREACH! Can we say
>> A-MEN?
>> Praise JEEEEEEEEEZUZZZZ! Hallelujah!
>> What do you think you "EXPOSED" Mike? You can't even make up your
>> mind.
>> None or one? One or none? Pick a lane, Mike.
> YOU are openly making false accusations against me. YOU are the one who
> refuses to give simple evidence of your journal publications. YOU are the
> one using typical abuser tactics.
What accusations? That this whole child saving routine is your
"MINISTRY?" Do you deny it???
Michael Dobony
> "Greegor" <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:558f7e31-fbee-4026...@q18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> MD > Here we go again, typical abuser behavior.
>
> GH> Is this what Jesus would do?
>
> Of course not! What did he say about CASTING STONES??? Mike didn't get
> that part.
Who is casting stones, that is, executing sentencing? All I am doing is
exposing abusive behavior typical of abusers.
>
> MD > You can't prove your position
> MD > so you attack other who exposed you.
> MD >
> MD > Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased
> MD > against abuse and abusers. I want
> MD > to help women and children avoid abuse.
>
> GH> And to hell with men or keeping families whole?
>
> GH> Even if you have to "bear false witness" about
> GH> stats to exaggerate your personal crusade?
Excuse me? What exaggeration? Maybe you don't think it is wrong that an
estimated 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys will be sexually assaulted before
reaching age 18? Even the modest estimate of 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 7 boys
is way too high! An estimated 1 in 4 female college residents experience
sexual abuse while in college. Maybe I should ignore this?
>
> You are NOT suggesting "FALSE WITNESS" are you Greg? MIKE???? NEVER!!!
> He's INFALLIBLE. In fact Mikle taught Jesus the walking on water trick.
Again, typical abuser tactics.
>
> MD > How much do I make doing this? I
> MD > have NEVER made a profit.
> MD > What is your motivation?
>
> GH> Tell us about your ministry. You took a vow of poverty?
Can you show me a vow of poverty requirement in the Bible? A vow of
poverty is an invention of the Roman Catholic Cult. My ministry is to give
women and children the power to escape abuse, to help survivors become
victors, and to help organizations dealing with children implement
effective child protection strategies. So what do you see wrong with this?
>
>
> Yes, Mike sees this as his "MINISTRY" his "CALLING" for the Lord. Of
> course he doesn't see his OWN "abuser" behavior.
Describe my abuser behavior. You make false statement attributed to me.
You refuse to give simple information to support your claims of journal
publication. Your claimed government sponsored research is illegally not
publicly published and available. Your defense is limited to an offense
against those challenge you to prove your claims of publication in
journals. This is typical abuser diversion.
krp
>> MD > Here we go again, typical abuser behavior.
>>
>> GH> Is this what Jesus would do?
>>
>> Of course not! What did he say about CASTING STONES??? Mike didn't
>> get
>> that part.
> Who is casting stones, that is, executing sentencing? All I am doing is
> exposing abusive behavior typical of abusers.
And the mob told Jesus that all THEY were doing was stoning an
adultress,
>> MD > You can't prove your position
>> MD > so you attack other who exposed you.
>> MD >
>> MD > Am I biased? YOU BET!!!! I am biased
>> MD > against abuse and abusers. I want
>> MD > to help women and children avoid abuse.
>>
>> GH> And to hell with men or keeping families whole?
>>
>> GH> Even if you have to "bear false witness" about
>> GH> stats to exaggerate your personal crusade?
> Excuse me? What exaggeration? Maybe you don't think it is wrong that an
> estimated 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys will be sexually assaulted before
> reaching age 18? Even the modest estimate of 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 7 boys
> is way too high! An estimated 1 in 4 female college residents experience
> sexual abuse while in college. Maybe I should ignore this?
The every 46 seconds a women is being raped.
>> You are NOT suggesting "FALSE WITNESS" are you Greg? MIKE????
>> NEVER!!!
>> He's INFALLIBLE. In fact Mike taught Jesus the walking on water trick.
> Again, typical abuser tactics.
Yeah right, you are so HOLIER THEN THOU!
>> MD > How much do I make doing this? I
>> MD > have NEVER made a profit.
>> MD > What is your motivation?
>>
>> GH> Tell us about your ministry. You took a vow of poverty?
>
> Can you show me a vow of poverty requirement in the Bible? A vow of
> poverty is an invention of the Roman Catholic Cult. My ministry is to
> give
> women and children the power to escape abuse, to help survivors become
> victors, and to help organizations dealing with children implement
> effective child protection strategies. So what do you see wrong with
> this?
Yeah where Jesus told the apostles to not take purse or script with them
as they preached.
>> Yes, Mike sees this as his "MINISTRY" his "CALLING" for the Lord. Of
>> course he doesn't see his OWN "abuser" behavior.
> Describe my abuser behavior. You make false statement attributed to me.
> You refuse to give simple information to support your claims of journal
> publication. Your claimed government sponsored research is illegally not
> publicly published and available. Your defense is limited to an offense
> against those challenge you to prove your claims of publication in
> journals. This is typical abuser diversion.
I just QUOTE you verbatim Mike. And I comment on your sanctimony. NOW
quote from my article since you CLAIM to have read it.
krp
On Mar 11, 11:39 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:dfd16a0c-d558-4b27...@s38g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 10, 7:23 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > DS> kenny boy summarized the information from a few studies into one. He
> > did
> > no research personally.
>
> > Not quite accurate Danny. Not EVEN accurate at all.
>
> DS> Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment Projects."
>
> DS> That's from the title... a "summary of findings" from "federally
> DS> funded... projects."
>
> DS> You want us to believe the TITLE you placed on YOUR summary is "not
> DS> even accurate at all!!!!!!"
>
> Danny - tell me. Just HOW stupid can YOU GET?
DS> YOU want the public to believe the TITLE you placed on your summary
DS> isn't accurate, and I'M supposed to be stupid????
Danny answer the question and quit dishonestly SNIPPING it. Tell us
where you got your copy of my article???? You will snip and LIE again Danny
because you don't really have it, do ya?
krp
>>>
>>> > DS> kenny boy summarized the information from a few studies into one.
>>> > He
>>> > did
>>> > no research personally.
>>>
>>> > Not quite accurate Danny. Not EVEN accurate at all.
>>>
>>> DS> Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment Projects."
>>>
>>> DS> That's from the title... a "summary of findings" from "federally
>>> DS> funded... projects."
>>>
>>> DS> You want us to believe the TITLE you placed on YOUR summary is "not
>>> DS> even accurate at all!!!!!!"
>>>
>>> Danny - tell me. Just HOW stupid can YOU GET?
>>
>> DS> YOU want the public to believe the TITLE you placed on your summary
>> DS> isn't accurate, and I'M supposed to be stupid????
>>
>> Danny answer the question and quit dishonestly SNIPPING it. Tell us
>> where you got your copy of my article???? You will snip and LIE again
>> Danny
>> because you don't really have it, do ya?
>
>
> It isn't necessary to go any further than your title to prove you're
> lying, kenny boy.
WEASEL WORDS. You've been CAUGHT DANNY! AGAIN!! You LIED when you claimed
to have a copy. Now you are doing your TYPICAL weasel act to get out of
having to admit you LIED. too late Danny - EVERYONE now KNOWS you are lying
your ass off.
krp
> >>> > DS> kenny boy summarized the information from a few studies into
> >>> > one. He
> >>> > did
> >>> > no research personally.
>
> >>> > Not quite accurate Danny. Not EVEN accurate at all.
>
> >>> DS> "Summary of Findings & Recommendations from a Study of Federally
> >>> DS> Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment Projects."
>
> >>> DS> That's from the title... a "summary of findings" from "federally
> >>> DS> funded... projects."
>
> >>> DS> You want us to believe the TITLE you placed on YOUR summary is
> >>> "not
> >>> DS> even accurate at all!!!!!!"
>
> >>> Danny - tell me. Just HOW stupid can YOU GET?
>
> >> DS> YOU want the public to believe the TITLE you placed on your summary
> >> DS> isn't accurate, and I'M supposed to be stupid????
>
> >> Danny answer the question and quit dishonestly SNIPPING it. Tell us
> >> where you got your copy of my article???? You will snip and LIE again
> >> Danny
> >> because you don't really have it, do ya?
>
> > This has been discussed a number of times before, kenny boy.
>
> > It isn't necessary to go any further than your title to prove you're
> > lying, kenny boy.
>
> WEASEL WORDS.
DS> Now you want everyone to believe your title is "WEASEL WORDS!!!"
HILARIOUS!!! LOL!!!
YOUR claims are WEASEL WORDS Danny. You claim you HAVE a copy of my
article. YOU ARE A LIAR - YOU DO NOT! - IF you REALLY had a copy and were
not LYING your ass off AGAIN, you'd know the title is "CHILDREN AT RISK" and
that "Summary of Findings & Recommendations from a Study of Federally Funded
Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment Projects." was EBSCO's SYNOPSIS of the
content of it. BUT you continue to LIE claiming you HAVE a copy of it. You
and Mike. Danny you have NO idea how you are destroying your credibility!
You're just TOO damn STUPID to realize it.
krp
DS> It's from your title, kenny boy.
NO - Danny it is NOT. And IF you wedrem't a low life LYING scumbag you'd
know that it is NOT part of MY Title. It is EBSCO'S SYNOPSIS of the content.
BUT you are LYING Danny!
> You claim you HAVE a copy of my article.
DS> I don't believe you can substantiate your claim, kenny boy.Post all the
proof you have.
What claim is that Danny boy? YOU are the one making claims. When I ask
YOU to post PROOF that you actually HAVE a copy - you WEASEL, That's DANNY
SULLIVAN!!
Michael Dobony
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
You discredit victims. You claim they are liars.
>
>> Which of the two of us is more honest? I don't
>>> hide what I do, my motives and the rest. YOU DO! You are DESPERATE to try
>>> to
>>> find something to convince YOURSELF (and THAT is what this is REALLY all
>>> about) that I am EVIL INCARNATE. You MUST believe it, or you'd have to
>>> look
>>> at your whole belief system and you can't do that.
>
>> If you don't hide what you do, give us the journal and date of your
>> publications. Government research on social issues is subject to OPEN
>> PUBLICATION! Maybe we should sue you and the government agency that
>> "hired" you to make this research public!
>
>
> BY all means SUE Mike. It was the Utah legislature's judiciary committee. I
> am CERFTAIN the state of Utah will be THRILLED for you to file your
> MILTI-BILLION dollar lawsxuit.
Okay, now we have a source. Let's see if they acknowledge you.
>>
>>> With your C*H*R*I*S*T*I*A*N belief system - there is ONLY ONE
>>> TRUE
>>> PATH - that's the one YOU are on. It's the one YOU PREACH! Can we say
>>> A-MEN?
>>> Praise JEEEEEEEEEZUZZZZ! Hallelujah!
>
>>> What do you think you "EXPOSED" Mike? You can't even make up your
>>> mind.
>>> None or one? One or none? Pick a lane, Mike.
>
>> YOU are openly making false accusations against me. YOU are the one who
>> refuses to give simple evidence of your journal publications. YOU are the
>> one using typical abuser tactics.
>
> What accusations? That this whole child saving routine is your
> "MINISTRY?" Do you deny it???
No, I do not deny wanting to protect children from abusers. Why are you
condemning saving children from abuse?
Michael Dobony
I never claimed to have read what doesn't exist. I claimed you have no
article published in any journal found on EBSCO or ProQuest. You also do
NOT quote anything that makes me an abuser. Why do you refuse to prove any
of your claims?
Dan Sullivan
"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4OTtl.2491$gm6....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
Your claim was the following "You claim to HAVE a copy of my article."
Post all the proof you have that I claimed to have a copy.
Michael Dobony
You get a F- for reading comprehension. I originally claimed and still
claim that you are technically correct in that you are SELF-published.
Evidently the government agency you claimed to have done the research for
failed to properly publish the article you did so you had to publish it
yourself. Why didn't they publish it? Didn't it meet basic research
standards? I also claimed to have failed to find your name on any journal
article. You still refuse to provide your credentials, your published
JOURNAL articles!
These lists of lists have been used for decades (extension of printed
lists) as a source of locating previous research on selected topics. If
you were a legitimate researcher you would understand this as these are
universally used as a starting point in research (review of existing
research) to better formulate the research question(s). It's
questionableness is only questionable to you because your claimed
publications in journals is not there. So, please prove your claims of
journal publication by providing the names and dates of these journal
articles you authored.
krp
>>>>>> own abundant flatulence? When have YOU - - the GREAT DAN SULLIVAN
>> NAME THE PUBLISHER MIKE! Since now you are claiming to have READ
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
You claim to have the INFO, Mike. SHiuld be NO problem naming WHO the
publisher is. Does it state "KEN PANGBORN COMPANY?"
>> You KNOW that we defend the GUILTY, Mike? HOW??? Name your source.
>> Name the GUILTY people we have defended. By your statements you claim you
>> CAN. Let's see it Mike. NAME THEM.
> You discredit victims. You claim they are liars.
WHERE did I SAY that Mike? You say I said it. WHERE IS IT? Look out
Mike, YOUR credibilkity is in the same toilet bowl as Sullivan's. PUT UP.
>>> Which of the two of us is more honest? I don't
>>>> hide what I do, my motives and the rest. YOU DO! You are DESPERATE to
>>>> try
>>>> to
>>>> find something to convince YOURSELF (and THAT is what this is REALLY
>>>> all
>>>> about) that I am EVIL INCARNATE. You MUST believe it, or you'd have to
>>>> look
>>>> at your whole belief system and you can't do that.
>>> If you don't hide what you do, give us the journal and date of your
>>> publications. Government research on social issues is subject to OPEN
>>> PUBLICATION! Maybe we should sue you and the government agency that
>>> "hired" you to make this research public!
>> BY all means SUE Mike. It was the Utah legislature's judiciary committee.
>> I
>> am CERFTAIN the state of Utah will be THRILLED for you to file your
>> MILTI-BILLION dollar lawsxuit.
> Okay, now we have a source. Let's see if they acknowledge you.
CALL AND ASK Mike. Do you think anyone will remember that far back?
>>>> With your C*H*R*I*S*T*I*A*N belief system - there is ONLY ONE
>>>> TRUE PATH - that's the one YOU are on. It's the one YOU PREACH! Can we
>>>> say
>>>> A-MEN? Praise JEEEEEEEEEZUZZZZ! Hallelujah!
>>>> What do you think you "EXPOSED" Mike? You can't even make up your
>>>> mind.
>>>> None or one? One or none? Pick a lane, Mike.
>>> YOU are openly making false accusations against me. YOU are the one who
>>> refuses to give simple evidence of your journal publications. YOU are
>>> the
>>> one using typical abuser tactics.
>> What accusations? That this whole child saving routine is your
>> "MINISTRY?" Do you deny it???
> No, I do not deny wanting to protect children from abusers. Why are you
> condemning saving children from abuse?
I'm NOT except in your SICK mind. Gotta tell you Mike - with over 30
years in this field. 90% of the time, in my experience, people like YOU have
turned out to be the REAL abusers. Oh I can remember a CRUSADING Judge in
Indiana who BELLOWED much of the same bullshit you do. He created the CASA
program in Indiana. He was the HERO to all TRUE BELIEVERS, that is until his
secretary walked in to catch him in the act of getting a blow job by a 10
year old boy who was staying at the attached juvenile detention center. He
had been "CHECKING OUT" young boys for his "interventions" for years. Or
we could discuss, if you like, a Detective in the "Crimes Against Children
unit" of the Pinellas County, Florida Sheriff's Department who was a
firebrand CHRISTIAN fanatic, much like you, against Child Pornography until
he was BUSTED by the FBI as one of America's biggest kiddie porn
traffickers. Oh YEAH, Mike I listen to the shit you say and all your LOUD
self-righteousness (PRAISE JEEEEZUZZ) and wonder.
No Mike - I by NO means approve of the abuse of children, and we do NOT,
as YOU claim, defend the abusers. We defend the WRONGLY accused. And we have
ways of KNOWING they are wrongly accused.
Now - Mike - let's have you QUOTE from the TEXT of my article. I'll
wait. Sullivan is crashing on the rocks. You are right behind him.
krp
Funny thing Mike. You make that claim LOUDLY in ASCPS, and ADRU, and YET
in Alt.Adoption you claim you found ONE. PICK A LANE Mike. Is it one or
none?
If it is NONE, why did you list one in the adoption newsgroup? Which is it?
One face for one place, another for the other?
krp
Oh NOW you admit you do NOT???? Danny - that was OBVIOUS from the
beginning of your claims. SO, Danny now that you ADMIT that you do NOT Have
a copy, HOW do you KNOW what MY title was??? You see, Danny boy, no matter
which way you step, you are standing in your own BULLSHIT. Either you HAVE
a copy, or you LIED about knowing the TITLE of my work. I just want to know,
WHICH LIE are you NOW admitting to, Danny??
krp
>>>> Mike, What are you studying in
>>> college and how far along are you?
>>>
>>> Why did you post that Ken was not published
>>> less than an hour after you posted that he was?
>> Interesting if one is smugly suggesting great credibility and
>> contradicts himself in less than an hour. His "source" is at least
>> somewhat
>> questionable in its completeness. But that issue is for another day as is
>> the FOR PROFIT nature of the publisher of that list of lists.
> You get a F- for reading comprehension. I originally claimed and still
> claim that you are technically correct in that you are SELF-published.
Self published? How? What was the NAME of the publisher you CLAIM I
used? Name and PLACE of publication will do.
> Evidently the government agency you claimed to have done the research for
> failed to properly publish the article you did so you had to publish it
> yourself. Why didn't they publish it? Didn't it meet basic research
> standards? I also claimed to have failed to find your name on any journal
> article. You still refuse to provide your credentials, your published
> JOURNAL articles!
You are making shit up again Mike.
> These lists of lists have been used for decades (extension of printed
> lists) as a source of locating previous research on selected topics. If
> you were a legitimate researcher you would understand this as these are
> universally used as a starting point in research (review of existing
> research) to better formulate the research question(s). It's
> questionableness is only questionable to you because your claimed
> publications in journals is not there. So, please prove your claims of
> journal publication by providing the names and dates of these journal
> articles you authored.
The DATABASE you copy comes with a DISCLAIMER, Mike. Want to post it?
You claim NONE, then ONE but claim it is SELF PUBLISHED. PROOF????
Dan Sullivan
> DAN SULLIVAN dumber than a box of rocks"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
That isn't what I said at all.
You're claiming that I said I had a copy and I asked you to post the
proof that I said I had a copy.
Is that too difficult for you to understand, kenny boy?
Michael Dobony
> "Michael Dobony" <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
> news:16kg7sakfaxr1.10at79jsc9w6n$.dlg@40tude.net...
>
>
>>>>> Mike, What are you studying in
>>>> college and how far along are you?
>>>>
>>>> Why did you post that Ken was not published
>>>> less than an hour after you posted that he was?
>
>>> Interesting if one is smugly suggesting great credibility and
>>> contradicts himself in less than an hour. His "source" is at least
>>> somewhat
>>> questionable in its completeness. But that issue is for another day as is
>>> the FOR PROFIT nature of the publisher of that list of lists.
>
>> You get a F- for reading comprehension. I originally claimed and still
>> claim that you are technically correct in that you are SELF-published.
>
> Self published? How? What was the NAME of the publisher you CLAIM I
> used? Name and PLACE of publication will do.
>
Look up SELF in the dictionary.
>
>> Evidently the government agency you claimed to have done the research for
>> failed to properly publish the article you did so you had to publish it
>> yourself. Why didn't they publish it? Didn't it meet basic research
>> standards? I also claimed to have failed to find your name on any journal
>> article. You still refuse to provide your credentials, your published
>> JOURNAL articles!
>
> You are making shit up again Mike.
You are the one refusing to (incapable of) naming the journals you claim to
have been published in.
>
>> These lists of lists have been used for decades (extension of printed
>> lists) as a source of locating previous research on selected topics. If
>> you were a legitimate researcher you would understand this as these are
>> universally used as a starting point in research (review of existing
>> research) to better formulate the research question(s). It's
>> questionableness is only questionable to you because your claimed
>> publications in journals is not there. So, please prove your claims of
>> journal publication by providing the names and dates of these journal
>> articles you authored.
>
> The DATABASE you copy comes with a DISCLAIMER, Mike. Want to post it?
> You claim NONE, then ONE but claim it is SELF PUBLISHED. PROOF???
Cut and paste:
Notes:
Availability: Kenneth Pangborn (Privately Published), 80 M St. #12,
Salt Lake City, UT 84103 ; Policy Information Center, OASPE, Rm. 438F, HHH
Bldg., 200 Independence Avenue, SW, Washington, DC 20201, Phone: (202)
690-6445, Fax: (202) 401-6228, E-mail: p...@osaspe.dhhs.gov
Contains Extensive Bibliography On Father's Rights
Duration: September 1977 - November 1980
Porgrammes evaluated: ACF-Child Welfare Services-Research and
Demonstration
Project No.: ACYF 77-22
Grant Number: 105-77-1047
Numbers: 1722 [PIC ID]
Address: Abt Associates, Inc., 55 Wheeler Street, Cambridge MA 02138
Sponsoring Organization: ACF-ACYF.
If in fact this was a government sponsored research project it would NOT be
privately published. Who did you pay to do this project? Why did you need
to do an "extensive bibliography on father's rights?"
krp
DS>That isn't what I said at all.
Well Danny - it's simple Do you or do you NOT (and EVERYONE by now KNOWS
it is NOT) have a copy of my "Article?"
krp
>>>>>> Mike, What are you studying in
>>>>> college and how far along are you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did you post that Ken was not published
>>>>> less than an hour after you posted that he was?
>>
>>>> Interesting if one is smugly suggesting great credibility and
>>>> contradicts himself in less than an hour. His "source" is at least
>>>> somewhat
>>>> questionable in its completeness. But that issue is for another day as
>>>> is
>>>> the FOR PROFIT nature of the publisher of that list of lists.
>>
>>> You get a F- for reading comprehension. I originally claimed and still
>>> claim that you are technically correct in that you are SELF-published.
>>
>> Self published? How? What was the NAME of the publisher you CLAIM I
>> used? Name and PLACE of publication will do.
> Look up SELF in the dictionary.
Had to be printed somewhere, Mike. WHERE?????
>>> Evidently the government agency you claimed to have done the research
>>> for
>>> failed to properly publish the article you did so you had to publish it
>>> yourself. Why didn't they publish it? Didn't it meet basic research
>>> standards? I also claimed to have failed to find your name on any
>>> journal
>>> article. You still refuse to provide your credentials, your published
>>> JOURNAL articles!
>>
>> You are making shit up again Mike.
> You are the one refusing to (incapable of) naming the journals you claim
> to
> have been published in.
Why should I post them when YOU claimj to posess ALL THE FACTS, Mike?
> Cut and paste:
GOLLY Mike - I actually OWN The POLICY INFORMATION CENTER? It's MINE?
Pleas emike TELL ME all about YOUR GRANTS???? Dan Sullivan will shortly tell
us all about HIS.
So in YOUR world - your EXPERT world - "Privately Published" means SELF
PUBLISHED? Or just NOT published by the Feds???
> If in fact this was a government sponsored research project it would NOT
> be
> privately published. Who did you pay to do this project? Why did you
> need
> to do an "extensive bibliography on father's rights?"
So they are LYING then? Since you HAVE a copy, you'd know WHY the
bibliography existed. I am having so much fun with you Mikey. And what's
this Salt Lake City address AND Cambridge,
Massachusetts? I guess I must be a Publishing Magnate with printing places
in BOTH Utah AND Massachusetts, huh? Is ABT Associates MY company, Mike???
Now just give us some of the TEXT of the article from YOUR COPY of it.
Michael Dobony
I just went to the DHHS site and you are not there, nor is your report.
So, again, where are you published?
krp
YAWN... Take it up with EBSCO.
Michael Dobony
Take it up with the website listed and the federal government and the DHHS.
Okay, you still have nothing published. You could easily drop us into the
dirt if you would simply post the names and dates of the journals you claim
to have articles published in. But you can't provide evidence of what does
not exist. Your only evidence is your lies.
krp
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Have fun chasing your own dick all over the block
Mike.
Greegor
about whether or not you read Ken's article?
Greegor
MD > claimed and still claim that you are technically
MD > correct in that you are SELF-published.
Self published on a government grant?
Are you smoking crack?
Greegor
had no hits on EBSCO when you had posted just
57 minutes earlier that he had one hit on EBSCO?
What's that disclaimer on the EBSCO site?
Why won't you post it Mike?
Greegor
G > Ken using EBSCO but then you posted ONLY in alt.adoption
G > that you found one hit for Ken?
57 minutes after you acknowleded the 1 item you
proceeded to deny there were any hits on EBSCO.
How was that not bearing false witness, Mike?
G > Does your EBSCO search cover INTERNATIONAL
G > publications?
Mike?
G > Why did you badmouth what you did find as if
G > it was "vanity press" junk when it was in fact
G > produced at the request of government?
MD > Per EBSCO, it is technically true
Technically true? What do you mean by that?
And in your attempt to dismiss or discount it
you pretended that something written for a
government grant was a "vanity press" publication?
How was that not "bearing false witness"?
DS > kenny boy summarized the information from a few
DS > studies into one. He did no research personally.
What was the actual (full) TITLE, Dan?
Please be very clear on this.
Did you rely on the title to presume what it actually was?
Children at Risk: Summary of Findings & Recommendations from a Study
of Federally Funded Child Abuse & Neglect Treatment Projects.
Are you saying that was the title that Ken gave it?
MD > Here we go again, typical abuser behavior.
MD > You can't prove your position so you
MD > attack other who exposed you.
Mike, You outright LIED!
Posted one hit then 57 minutes later posted "no hits".
Are you really a Christian?
MD > If you don't hide what you do, give us the journal
MD > and date of your publications. Government
MD > research on social issues is subject to OPEN
MD > PUBLICATION! Maybe we should sue you
MD > and the government agency that "hired" you
MD > to make this research public!
Is it secret or is it just a 29 year old government report?
Greegor
What is the title that Ken actually gave it?
Greegor
Kent Wills
"Greegor" <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ae293165-8002-402e...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> college and how far along are you?
>
> Why did you post that Ken was not published
> less than an hour after you posted that he was?
Pangborn has never had a book published. This is in dirrect conrast
to his claims that he has.
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, or proving he's so
stupid he thinks I'm Asian.
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8-8ddd-d77bccfc6...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/395db830731df54a
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Kent Wills
> Mike, Are you some idealogue retard or what?
This from the guy who was convicted of OWI!
Greegor
Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services, misc.legal,
soc.men, alt.support.foster-parents, alt.adoption
From: "Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:06:14 -0600
KW > Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
KW > (DOB 05/22/1959)
KW > CRIMINAL COMPLAINT
KW > 04/10/1996 Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
Kent posted a FRAUD that I had an OWI (Drunk Driving).
I've only tried to get drunk once in my entire life.
Except for that and a few Rum/Pepsi (social drinks)
I do not drink alcohol.
Of course, I never had any accusation, charge
or conviction for OWI.
Like your Vodka there comrade Willenski?
WILLS, KENT B [ Collected March 7, 2009]
Age: 40
Rogers, AR
Ankeny, IA
Marshalltown, IA
Bartlett, IL
Villa Park, IL
And from another source: Hanover Park, IL
WILLS, FREDERICK ALFRED (Kent's Dad)
WILLS, MICHAEL A (Kent's son??)
WILLS, JANET RAE (Kent's Mom)
HARTWIG,TIFFANY JEANNE (Kent's sister AKA Tiffany J Wills)
From another source: Kelly M Wills Kent's wife ?? )
Pay close attention to past owners of 202 NW College Ave.
Kent made affirmative claims about the property online.
Kent's folks sold it in 1994 and he lived there!
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
[ As Collected March 7, 2009 ]
Seller: WILLS, FRED A. & JANET R.
Buyer: THE SWEENEY REVOCABLE GRANTOR TRUST
04/26/1994 135,000 D/Deed 7010/188
-
Seller: SHELDAHL, ERIC A.
Buyer: WILLS, FRED
01/02/1990 130,500 D/Deed 6189/972
A Larger photo:
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Do It Yourself Instructions to look up Kent's record
Iowa Department of Corrections records for Kent
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Name Kent Bradley Wills [ As Collected March 7, 2009 ]
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 40
Location
Offense
County Of Commitment
Commitment Date
Duration
TDD/SDD *
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 12/16/2008
Probation C Felony Polk 12/16/2008
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003
Iowa Courts Docket and Disposition web site
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Wills Kent B
02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
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(See filings text if attached further down below)
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20050506/04-0202.asp?Printable=true
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005
STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.
Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.
Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.
Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.
Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.
WIGGINS, Justice.
Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.
I. Background Facts and Proceedings.
Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
II. Scope of Review.
Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.
In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).
III. Analysis.
To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).
In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.
The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:
[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.
Id. § 702.12.
Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.
Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.
The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).
Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.
Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:
The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:
1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .
2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.
3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...
4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.
5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.
If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.
(Emphasis added.)
Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.
Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).
IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.
AFFIRMED.
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[ As Collected March 7, 2009 ]
Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Event Filed By Filed Create Date Last Updated Action Date
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
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whitevamp
You avoided the request yet again Kennie. He wanted a list of what
articles and so forth that were published that you wrote.
IOW to prove your claim you actually wrote anything reputable enough
to be published in legitimate sources.
As a supposed trial consultant you would regularly be asked to
provide your CV for court analysis as to your credibility.
Your self-publicity appearances on trash radio and TV talk shows
don't count Kenny.
Michael, I don't know how long you have met Ken Pangburn online but
he has a long history of being the usenet kook with a number of
credibility problems.
Ken, it should be no problem for you to post what you published and
articles and so forth by you.
And yet you seem to be not willing to do that simple thing.
Wonder why.....
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
whitevamp
> /> Newsgroups: alt.adoption
>
> >> From: Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net>
>
> Shall we look at MIKE'S website to catch a little idea of his OBJECTIVITY?
>
> Because a woman is raped every 46 seconds somewhere in the U.S.
>
> "My relatives talk about this boy who lived with my parents before that
> fateful morning. I never knew this child. They talk about this outgoing,
> carefree child that ceased to exist one early morning around my 5th birthday
> before my parents got up. I heard the rustling in the other room and got up
> quickly, thinking my abuser had returned as he promised, but it was my
> father getting ready for work. My abuser, the "Big Bad Wolf," never
> returned. That child my relatives talk about died that morning, not even
> leaving me any memories of him. In his place was a very insecure, shy child
> who could not relate well to others, desperate for attention, affection, and
> approval."
>
> Every 46 seconds Mike? Sounds like many in a country of about 300
> MILLION, doesn't it?
As an alleged sexual abuse expert Ken you know the rape statistics.
One in ten rape victims report their rapes. And child rapists do it
over 100 times before they get caught on average.
And how nice of you to mock Michael who clearly told about child
rape.
You are a disgusting sonofabitch Ken.
Here is a boy who lost his childhood innocence to a sex pervert and
you MOCK him?
Disgusting doesn't even begin to describe you Pangborn.
krp
"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cdd8b615-c4a7-487a...@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> Shall we look at MIKE'S website to catch a little idea of his OBJECTIVITY?
>
> Because a woman is raped every 46 seconds somewhere in the U.S.
>
> "My relatives talk about this boy who lived with my parents before that
> fateful morning. I never knew this child. They talk about this outgoing,
> carefree child that ceased to exist one early morning around my 5th
> birthday
> before my parents got up. I heard the rustling in the other room and got
> up
> quickly, thinking my abuser had returned as he promised, but it was my
> father getting ready for work. My abuser, the "Big Bad Wolf," never
> returned. That child my relatives talk about died that morning, not even
> leaving me any memories of him. In his place was a very insecure, shy
> child
> who could not relate well to others, desperate for attention, affection,
> and
> approval."
> Every 46 seconds Mike? Sounds like many in a country of about 300
> MILLION, doesn't it?
MOE> As an alleged sexual abuse expert Ken you know the rape statistics.
MOE> One in ten rape victims report their rapes. And child rapists do it
MOE> over 100 times before they get caught on average.
Nice statistics Moe. Bullshit, but interesting.
krp
MOE> As a supposed trial consultant you would regularly be asked to
MOE> provide your CV for court analysis as to your credibility.
REALLY? Is that based on your VAST legal experience Moe? What is is that
you believe a Trial Consultant does? Here is a CLUE - it is in the word
CONSULTANT" in other words to "CONSULT." I know you have problems with
words. For example, the word "SOME" totally confused you. You thought it
mean "ALL."
MOE> Your self-publicity appearances on trash radio and TV talk shows don't
count Kenny.
Have you been asked to appear on any TRASH shows Moe? Too bad you didn't
notice news shows like the BBC, and the others.
MOE> Ken, it should be no problem for you to post what you published and
MOE> articles and so forth by you. And yet you seem to be not willing to do
that simple thing. Wonder why.....
Don't wonder - I am just feeding rope out to your pals Sullivan and
Moore who try to CLAIM intimate familiarity with what I have ort have not
written. In due time Moe.
Greegor
Moe > to post what you published and
Moe > articles and so forth by you. And yet
Moe > you seem to be not willing to do
Moe > that simple thing. Wonder why.....
KRP > Don't wonder - I am just feeding rope out to
KRP > your pals Sullivan and Moore who try to
KRP > CLAIM intimate familiarity with what I
KRP > have [or] have not written. In due time Moe.
Hey Moe! Dan must have figured it out too!
Didn't you notice how he did the "ot" thing
to try to bury this?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/0002789969a02c84
Kent Wills
>TWO of Kent Wills' usenet newsgroup identities:
[...]
Thank you for admiting I was and am correct about your OWI conviciton.
It's accepted that when I'm correct and you can no longer lie your way
out of what I've proved, you try to disctract from the truth of my post(s).
It's one of the ways you admit the contents of the post was and is 100%
accurate.
Have you paid any of the over $8000.00 you owe the state due to your
convictions for beating your ex-wife?
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Any better than YOUR stats of up to 70 percent of rape victims lie,
Kennie?
Did your ex wife lie about her alleged gang rape or did you lie about
it to hide behind like a coward?
If your daughter was raped would you call her a liar?
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42d3e80f-70c5-48da...@e38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> As a supposed trial consultant you would regularly be asked to
> MOE> provide your CV for court analysis as to your credibility.
>
> REALLY? Is that based on your VAST legal experience Moe? What is is that
> you believe a Trial Consultant does? Here is a CLUE - it is in the word
> CONSULTANT" in other words to "CONSULT." I know you have problems with
> words. For example, the word "SOME" totally confused you. You thought it
> mean "ALL."
Nice rant. Even so its bullshit.
I question your CV because of what you've been claiming about BWS and
how up to 70 percent of rape victims lie. If you actually WERE the
sexual abuse expert you pretended to be for years, you would know how
rape traumatizes the victim and how women are beaten into submission.
You would have known about the " date rape" drug some males use to
take advantage of females they want to violate.
Interestingly your "studies" seem to end some years ago and your
ignorance and misogyny is sadly obvious.
I'm starting to thing you went into this " sexual abuse" field
because you wanted to jack off with stories of women being violated
and abused. It would fit your personality.
>
> MOE> Your self-publicity appearances on trash radio and TV talk shows don't
> count Kenny.
>
> Have you been asked to appear on any TRASH shows Moe? Too bad you didn't
> notice news shows like the BBC, and the others.
I noticed you were on Morton Downey Jr's show, Not exactly high
quality, but hey for a publicity whore like you you went anywhere they
let you on. BTW been on any of these shows lately? They don't call you
anymore?
As for me appearing on any " trash" shows or whatever, I am fortunate
in that I am not the publicity whore you obviously were. Your
boasting reminds me of another media whore, Bob Larson, who now bills
himself as the "real exorcist". He has a credibility problem just like
you do.
>
> MOE> Ken, it should be no problem for you to post what you published and
> MOE> articles and so forth by you. And yet you seem to be not willing to do
> that simple thing. Wonder why.....
>
> Don't wonder - I am just feeding rope out to your pals Sullivan and
> Moore who try to CLAIM intimate familiarity with what I have ort have not
> written. In due time Moe.
Yeah promises promises. You did the same act with Moore years ago
Kennie. Lotta noise but no proof.
whitevamp
Nice doggie, Eat your Kennie treat now Fido.
(( Sound of Ken Pangburn upchucking his cookies after a drinking
binge followeed by a dog whining and lapping up the spill ))
Good doggie, Too cheap to get your booze, ahem, unprocessed.
(( laughing))
krp
MOE> Did your ex wife lie about her alleged gang rape or did you lie about
MOE> it to hide behind like a coward?
Absolutely NOT. She didn't have to rely on externals to validate herself
or her story. She IS a VERY strong woman.
MOE> If your daughter was raped would you call her a liar?
ONLY if, in fact she DID lie.
Oh and More - IF you weren't blowing so much feminist bullshit out of
your ass, you might know that the Journal article that I currently have IN
PRESS is about correcting problems in forensic interviews of child sexual
abuse victims so that their testimony will survive challenges.
Greegor
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Isn't that something, Moe?
That it's a TWO WAY street?
Getting rid of the liars strengthens the REAL cases.
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
So you claim,but I've seen you lie many times.
Considering your level of language usage, I'm betting IF you
actually submitted an article to a presumable professional periodical
( " journal is not specific), to make your verbage acceptable to to
the professionals, you used the words of others. :-D
You're full of it Ken.
whitevamp
Nice doggie, good doggie, do your master's bidding.
freedom
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, whitevamp <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Mar 17, 3:02=A0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cdd8b615-c4a7-487a...@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Shall we look at MIKE'S website to catch a little idea of his OBJECTIVI=
>TY?
>>
>> > Because a woman is raped every 46 seconds somewhere in the U.S.
>>
>> > "My relatives talk about this boy who lived with my parents before that
>> > fateful morning. I never knew this child. They talk about this outgoing=
>,
>> > carefree child that ceased to exist one early morning around my 5th
>> > birthday
>> > before my parents got up. I heard the rustling in the other room and go=
>t
>> > up
>> > quickly, thinking my abuser had returned as he promised, but it was my
>> > father getting ready for work. My abuser, the "Big Bad Wolf," never
>> > returned. That child my relatives talk about died that morning, not eve=
>n
>> > leaving me any memories of him. In his place was a very insecure, shy
>> > child
>> > who could not relate well to others, desperate for attention, affection=
>,
>> > and
>> > approval."
>> > Every 46 seconds Mike? Sounds like many in a country of about 300
>> > MILLION, doesn't it?
>>
>> MOE> As an alleged sexual abuse expert Ken you know the rape statistics.
>> MOE> One in ten rape victims report their rapes. And =A0child rapists do =
>it
>> MOE> over 100 times before they get caught on average.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Nice statistics Moe. Bullshit, but interesting.
>
> Any better than YOUR stats of up to 70 percent of rape victims lie,
>Kennie?
>
> Did your ex wife lie about her alleged gang rape or did you lie about
>it to hide behind like a coward?
>
> If your daughter was raped would you call her a liar?
>
He probably would. He seems to have a very condescending attitude toward
ALL women.
Did you know that his daughter was involved in the adult film industry?
And, Ken humiliated her by posting her stage name to usenet?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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whitevamp
Actually in a post in the last 24 hours in response to me he damn near
DID say that.
Lovely father, huh?
>
> Did you know that his daughter was involved in the adult film industry?
> And, Ken humiliated her by posting her stage name to usenet?
From what I understand women who get involved in the adult film
industry start naively thinking they can make a lot of money from the
bet go. They find out that to the industry they are nothing more than
fresh meat to be used up and cast aside.
For Ken to have a daughter in the porn industry doesn't say much for
how he raised her. As in prostitution, some women go into video porn
because of how they were sexually abused.
Ken doesn't strike me as much of a father, to be honest.
>
> http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
> criminals
>
> "[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
> Association or AN Y connection to them."
> - --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
> with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
> is disproved here:http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/expert...
> x.shtml
>
> "Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
> that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
> - --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
> <jOp3l.292$Es4....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
Kent Wills
[...]
>> > Take it up with the website listed and the federal government and the
>> > DHHS.
>> > Okay, you still have nothing published. You could easily drop us into
>> > the
>> > dirt if you would simply post the names and dates of the journals you
>> > claim
>> > to have articles published in. But you can't provide evidence of what
>> > does
>> > not exist. Your only evidence is your lies.
>>
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Have fun chasing your own dick all over the block
>> Mike.
>
> You avoided the request yet again Kennie. He wanted a list of what
>articles and so forth that were published that you wrote.
>
I want to know the title of the *book* he wrote and the name he used.
There is NO record of Kenny-Bob having a book published under any title.
To date, Pangborn has refused to name the book or the name he used to
have it published.
> IOW to prove your claim you actually wrote anything reputable enough
>to be published in legitimate sources.
According to all available records, Pangborn self pubished two issues
of a newsletter. That's it.
>
> As a supposed trial consultant you would regularly be asked to
>provide your CV for court analysis as to your credibility.
And seeing that he BOUGHT his degrees from a diploma mill...
>
> Your self-publicity appearances on trash radio and TV talk shows
>don't count Kenny.
Especially since the appearances were nothing more than his calling in
to speak to the people being interviewed.
>
> Michael, I don't know how long you have met Ken Pangburn online but
>he has a long history of being the usenet kook with a number of
>credibility problems.
>
> Ken, it should be no problem for you to post what you published and
>articles and so forth by you.
>
> And yet you seem to be not willing to do that simple thing.
>
> Wonder why.....
Short answer: Pangborn lied.
Longer answer: Pangborn's mental illness, which he has claimed on at
least two occasions is a result of his alcoholism, prevents him from being
honest much of the time.
Kent Wills
>Moe> Ken, it should be no problem for you
>Moe > to post what you published and
>Moe > articles and so forth by you. And yet
>Moe > you seem to be not willing to do
>Moe > that simple thing. Wonder why.....
>
>KRP > Don't wonder - I am just feeding rope out to
>KRP > your pals Sullivan and Moore who try to
>KRP > CLAIM intimate familiarity with what I
>KRP > have [or] have not written. In due time Moe.
>
>Hey Moe! Dan must have figured it out too!
>Didn't you notice how he did the "ot" thing
>to try to bury this?
Is that like how you try to distract from the truth by posting
information you KNOW isn't true?
Have you caught on that when you do that, you actually draw attention
TO the truth you desperately want hidden?
Kent Wills
On Mar 17, 1:25 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>>
>> Hey Moe! Dan must have figured it out too!
>> Didn't you notice how he did the "ot" thing
>> to try to bury this?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> Nice doggie, Eat your Kennie treat now Fido.
G'Tard the dancing chimp is an obedient lap dog.
>
> (( Sound of Ken Pangburn upchucking his cookies after a drinking
>binge followeed by a dog whining and lapping up the spill ))
>
>Good doggie, Too cheap to get your booze, ahem, unprocessed.
>
>(( laughing))
BOKE! :-)
Greegor
Kent Bradley Wills DOB Jan 8 1969 Felony Garage Burglar used teen as
accomplice
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42d3e80f-70c5-48da...@e38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> >> > Take it up with the website listed and the federal government and the
> >> > DHHS.
> >> > Okay, you still have nothing published. You could easily drop us into
> >> > the
> >> > dirt if you would simply post the names and dates of the journals you
> >> > claim
> >> > to have articles published in. But you can't provide evidence of what
> >> > does
> >> > not exist. Your only evidence is your lies.
>
> >> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Have fun chasing your own dick all over the block
> >> Mike.
>
> > You avoided the request yet again Kennie. He wanted a list of what
> >articles and so forth that were published that you wrote.
>
> I want to know the title of the *book* he wrote and the name he used.
> There is NO record of Kenny-Bob having a book published under any title.
> To date, Pangborn has refused to name the book or the name he used to
> have it published.
Gee wonder why? If he did " publish" a book it would be via a vanity
press, which in most cases ( not all) means said book sucks badly.
>
> > IOW to prove your claim you actually wrote anything reputable enough
> >to be published in legitimate sources.
>
> According to all available records, Pangborn self pubished two issues
> of a newsletter. That's it.
Sheeit, self-publishing a newsletter is what damn near anyone can do!
Fan clubs do that all the time.
>
>
>
> > As a supposed trial consultant you would regularly be asked to
> >provide your CV for court analysis as to your credibility.
>
> And seeing that he BOUGHT his degrees from a diploma mill...
Among other things that would put into question his actual
credibility and expertise.
>
>
>
> > Your self-publicity appearances on trash radio and TV talk shows
> >don't count Kenny.
>
> Especially since the appearances were nothing more than his calling in
> to speak to the people being interviewed.
(( laughter)) Talk about leeching! He wasn't even asked to BE the
guest interviewed!!
>
>
>
> > Michael, I don't know how long you have met Ken Pangburn online but
> >he has a long history of being the usenet kook with a number of
> >credibility problems.
>
> > Ken, it should be no problem for you to post what you published and
> >articles and so forth by you.
>
> > And yet you seem to be not willing to do that simple thing.
>
> > Wonder why.....
>
> Short answer: Pangborn lied.
Obviously.
> Longer answer: Pangborn's mental illness, which he has claimed on at
> least two occasions is a result of his alcoholism, prevents him from being
> honest much of the time.
Also his massive ego.