New Bastardette - Oct.18, 2006
Marley Greiner
lainie....@gmail.com
And apparently, I think I'm God.
L.
kat
<lainie....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Damn, if one of the 'anonymous' responders was one of my bparents I would
run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that can't
respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience. I
am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
Kathy 1
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Robibnikoff
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> <lainie....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Marley Greiner wrote:
>> > A new Bastardette as arrived: Is Adoption Anti-Family.
>> >
>> > http://bastardette.blogspot.com
>> >
>> > Marley
>>
>> And apparently, I think I'm God.
>>
>> L.
>>
>
> Damn, if one of the 'anonymous' responders was one of my bparents I would
> run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that can't
> respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience.
> I
> am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
Uh oh - I sense Jackie right around the corner ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
#1557
Lilmtncbn
On Oct 19, 4:06 am, "kat" <katla...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <lainie.peter...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1161233507.5...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Marley Greiner wrote:
> > > A new Bastardette as arrived: Is Adoption Anti-Family.
>
> > >http://bastardette.blogspot.com
>
> > > Marley
>
> > And apparently, I think I'm God.
>
> > L.Damn, if one of the 'anonymous' responders was one of my bparents I would
> run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that can't
> respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience. I
> am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
>
> Kathy 1
Now now, you're sounding awfully "nazi-ish" there! Whatever the fuck
that means! LOL
kat
"Robibnikoff" <witc...@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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and/or Di ;)
Kathy 1
> --
> Robyn
> Resident Witchypoo
> Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
> #1557
>
>
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kat
"Lilmtncbn" <lilm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Well I am part German - on bmother's side -oh oh ;)
Robibnikoff
>
> "Lilmtncbn" <lilm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1161255651.1...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> On Oct 19, 4:06am, "kat" <katla...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <lainie.peter...@gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1161233507.5...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Marley Greiner wrote:
>> > > A new Bastardette as arrived: Is Adoption Anti-Family.
>>
>> > >http://bastardette.blogspot.com
>>
>> > > Marley
>>
>> > And apparently, I think I'm God.
>>
>> > L.Damn, if one of the 'anonymous' responders was one of my bparents I
> would
>> run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that
>> can't
>> respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience.
> I
>> am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
>>
>> Kathy 1
>
> Now now, you're sounding awfully "nazi-ish" there! Whatever the fuck
> that means! LOL
>
> Well I am part German - on bmother's side -oh oh ;)
So am I! Shit!
Ach du lieber ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
lainie....@gmail.com
kat wrote:
> Damn, if one of the 'anonymous' responders was one of my bparents I would
> run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that can't
> respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience. I
> am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
I've heard that some addiction specialists theorize that the addict's
maturity arrests at the time they begin abusing a substance. While this
is obviously a generalization, it makes me wonder if this phemomena
occurs in people who experience other types of trauma, particularly
when they are relatively young.
The behavior that I have seen in seriously damaged birthmothers (not
the majority of birthmothers!) has been that of catty, bullying,
manipulative girls in their mid-to-late teens, which, I imagine, is
about the age that many of these women relinquished. Again, MOST
birthmothers do not behave in this way. . .but those that have been
hanging around Bastardette's blog often do.
Food for thought.
L.
Lilmtncbn
On Oct 19, 8:21 am, lainie.peter...@gmail.com wrote:
> The behavior that I have seen in seriously damaged birthmothers (not
> the majority of birthmothers!) has been that of catty, bullying,
> manipulative girls in their mid-to-late teens, which, I imagine, is
> about the age that many of these women relinquished. Again, MOST
> birthmothers do not behave in this way. . .but those that have been
> hanging around Bastardette's blog often do.
>
> Food for thought.
>
> L.
I can't get my mind around the "adoptees as traitors in Nazi garb".
Whackadoo city.
Lilmtncbn
On Oct 19, 8:21 am, lainie.peter...@gmail.com wrote:
> Food for thought.
>
> L.
P.S. Dear Lainie--er--I mean God,
How about some help with the powerball numbers?
lainie....@gmail.com
Lilmtncbn wrote:
1 7 5 27 34 16
Rev. LainieGod
KL
Yikes....me too!!
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KL
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If those numbers work for her...can I please put in a request or two??
Robibnikoff
"KL" <klbj...@aohell.com> wrote in message
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Deary me. Goose step, anyone?
And a one and a two and a three - Schnell! :)
lainie....@gmail.com
KL wrote:
> Dear God,
>
> If those numbers work for her...can I please put in a request or two??
Only if you are very nice to the next birthmother you meet.
Rev. LainieGod
KL
my own.
Marley
my! What as Bastardette unleashed this time? As always, it's
"interesting." I'll probably make some replies tomorrow or Sat.
when I have more free time. I was actuall writing abouat the NJ bill.
I'd love some comments on it.
Marley
On Oct 18, 1:16 am, "Marley Greiner" <maddogmar...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
lainie....@gmail.com
Marley wrote:
> I[m in Washington DC for a few days and just checked Bastardette. Oh
> my! What as Bastardette unleashed this time? As always, it's
> "interesting." I'll probably make some replies tomorrow or Sat.
> when I have more free time. I was actuall writing abouat the NJ bill.
> I'd love some comments on it.
The anti-adoptionists remind me of the Revolutionary Communist Party
here in the USA. They insert themselves into every viable movement and
end up screwing the whole thing up.
L.
Jackie
> "kat" <katl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:11612524...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> > run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that can't
> > respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience.
> > I
> > am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
>
> Uh oh - I sense Jackie right around the corner ;)
> --
> Robyn
> Resident Witchypoo
> Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
> #1557
I really hate to disappoint you Robyn but I do not agree with those
women..
And I can not sort who frjack is. Or what he/she? is about..
Jackie
Robibnikoff
"Jackie" <Jackie...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Robibnikoff wrote:
>> "kat" <katl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:11612524...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> > would
>> > run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that
>> > can't
>> > respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's
>> > experience.
>> > I
>> > am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
>>
>> Uh oh - I sense Jackie right around the corner ;)
>
> women..
LOL! Don't worry - You didn't disappoint me in the least. I know you'd
reply to the post. Zing!
Robibnikoff
LOL - Looks like you have Crackangelo virus as well :)
Lilmtncbn
On Oct 20, 8:59 pm, "Jackie" <Jackiejda...@aol.com> wrote:
> > #1557I really hate to disappoint you Robyn but I do not agree with those
> women..
I know you don't.
>
> And I can not sort who frjack is. Or what he/she? is about..
>
> Jackie
FrJack is a reunited adoptee who works for/supports open records. I
think he's a priest, too.
Marley
On Oct 20, 10:15 am, lainie.peter...@gmail.com wrote:
> Marley wrote:
> > I[m in Washington DC for a few days and just checked Bastardette. Oh
> > my! What as Bastardette unleashed this time? As always, it's
> > "interesting." I'll probably make some replies tomorrow or Sat.
> > when I have more free time. I was actuall writing abouat the NJ bill.
> > I'd love some comments on it.The anti-adoptionists remind me of the Revolutionary Communist Party
> here in the USA. They insert themselves into every viable movement and
> end up screwing the whole thing up.
>
> L.
Exactly. The World Can't Wait of AdoptionLand. With an even more
pernicious ideology.
There is nothing wrong with being anti-adoption, but for pete's sake
use it tactically, and have a plan set up.
Marley
Marley
On Oct 20, 10:59 pm, "Jackie" <Jackiejda...@aol.com> wrote:
> Robibnikoff wrote:
> > "kat" <katla...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:11612524...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> > > Damn, if one of the 'anonymous' responders was one of my bparents I would
> > > run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Fuck bparents that can't
> > > respect an adoptee/an adoptee's adoptive family/the adoptee's experience.
> > > I
> > > am so sick of bparents who make it *all* about them and their loss.
>
> > Uh oh - I sense Jackie right around the corner ;)
> > --
> > Robyn
> > Resident Witchypoo
> > Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
> > #1557I really hate to disappoint you Robyn but I do not agree with those
> women..
>
> And I can not sort who frjack is. Or what he/she? is about..
>
> Jackie
Jackie is taking hits for her opinion. As usual, Jackie isn't
politically correct by anyone's standards. People like Jackie and I
are natural outsider, even if we disagree on things. AdoptionLand is
built on lies and compliance, if nothing else, it distrusts free
thinking and conformity. You aren't anybody unless you can be labeled.
Marley
Jackie
Marley wrote:
> Jackie is taking hits for her opinion. As usual, Jackie isn't
> politically correct by anyone's standards. People like Jackie and I
> are natural outsider, even if we disagree on things. AdoptionLand is
> built on lies and compliance, if nothing else, it distrusts free
> thinking and conformity. You aren't anybody unless you can be labeled.
>
> Marley
I will never give up the term birthmother..
Recently I corresponded with a woman that is connected with Origins..
and went to that conference.. the conference that BJ Lifton decided not
to attend.
I asked her about BN stand on absolute open records (no one left out)..
She had no problem with allowing a few human beings being denied
information about his or her birth.. She made a comment about BN being
radical or something like that..
I thought.. darn.. These folks are so radical that a simple CUB
seventies term can not be used..
Also I find it amusing that some of these folks think that
relinquishing women (from my time) are victims..
>From Wake Up Little Susie.. Rickie Solinger
Page 32
There were, however, two personal decisions a white woman could make
that would queer her relatively protected status. She might decide to
forgo the sanctuary and services offered by the maternity home and
adoption agency in favor of an independent adoption, as approximately
39 percent of all unmarried mothers did in the late 1950's and early
1960's.. If she chose to pursue this route, guided perhaps by her
obstetrician or lawyer, she would be entering into the "black
market' dealings.
Social service providers, encouraged by Children's Bureau personnel
and policies, devoted an extraordinary amount of time and effort to
dissuading white women from this course while championing state
legislation to outlaw black market adoptions. The concern of many
professionals about improving the standards of community care for white
unwed mothers was supported by a belief that this was the only way to
induce some women to go the prescribed route. Katherine B. Oettinger,
head of the Children's Bureau, cited the black market in white babies
as one of the main concerns of the Bureau in the late 1950s: "The
unmistakable fact is that the unwed mother needs help....And until she
can get and use these services anywhere in the country, the black and
gray market placement of children for adoption will continue." A
Seattle program begun in 1951 was designed specifically as an antidote
to the allure of the black market.. New and higher-quality services
were provided to unwed mothers in order to protect those "who now get
into wrong hands and who are encouraged indeed obligated to give up
their babies in order to pay their own freight."
Notes on this at the back of the book..(John H Hall, "An Experimental
Program for Unmarried Mothers," Child Welfare (May, 1951))
When a woman made a black market deal for her baby, she was paid money
to cover her prenatal care and living costs, her delivery expenses, and
an additional sum, in exchange for the baby. The efforts of policy
makers and social service providers to curb the black market appears to
have been motivated by a sincere interest in eliminating cash, or
market values, from transactions involving human life.
End of quoting..
To me Solinger is saying that the reason why some women demanded better
maternity home service was that if they did not get that 'service'
they would head into the black market..
They would sell their baby for money... Oh horrors!
And Robyn the reason my post showed up twice was because I am posting
on google.. and the server quit on me while I was posting my message..
I hit refresh.. wrong move..
I do not like using google for posting on aa..
Jackie
Jackie
Marley wrote:
> Jackie is taking hits for her opinion. As usual, Jackie isn't
> politically correct by anyone's standards. People like Jackie and I
> are natural outsider, even if we disagree on things. AdoptionLand is
> built on lies and compliance, if nothing else, it distrusts free
> thinking and conformity. You aren't anybody unless you can be labeled.
>
> Marley
I will never give up the term birthmother..
Marley Greiner
I'm part German on both sides, but ta least it's southern Germany and
Catholic.
Marley
Sea Side
hobby..you know, the triad in the sunday morning comics;hashing it out ,
with humor? just to finish the thot that Birthmothers supposedly think
its all about them.....
does anyone know what the variations are on the Primal Wound?
Sandy Castle
all about..taking no prisoners. anyway, I have called myself a
birthmother since day 1 ..never occurred to me to be upset or
offended...i have been called many things recently IMO much worse than
Birthmother; one thing i agree on; if i had to consider and worry all
the time about what to refer to myself or someone else as in a mere emal
or conversation, i would say someone was looking for drama instead of
dealing with or working on an issue. my court papers refer to me as the
*natural mother* and the only other thing i can think of to be called
is real mother or first mom or life mom. does that cover it all?
truthfully i am angry about having to worry about stuff like that when i
have worse things to iron out. the only time i give a darn about labels
(what to be called) is when and if it concerns the stinking adoptive
parents (how utterly thotless and immature of me for saying THAT)and
THEY are the only ones in the world who, i should expect to have learned
by now, to address me, the Birthmother as *your highness* or anything
else they dont want to do.
and why are you amused that the relinquishing moms of the era you
mentioned consider themselves victims? i am confused about the way
communication is contradicted here. i thot that that is what has been
rocking the house like you said, was and is the fact that forced
relinqueshent creates victims, and unnecessarily separates families;
disruption of the entire circle of life , obviously , of all the
hundreds of blogs, websites, groups; so understand you are making some
confusing contradictions, no, oh well, just my imagination; its just all
so gothic.
just needed to vent. watched the hallmark channel Naomi Judd Sunday,
and it was all about adoption i mean reunion. Seems that both Birthmom
and Adoptee were working in the same dayspa and didnt know it; but when
they came to discovery, both the adoptee and the BM were addressed at
how wonderful everything was including adoption especially because the
BM was so unselfish to do such a thing to give her child away to a
complete stranger in love because she obviously didnt have enuf love or
resources or deserving to raise her herself. (sos)
Kathy
Sandy Castle wrote:
> taking hits for an opinion? this is what i was told the this board was
> all about..taking no prisoners. anyway, I have called myself a
> birthmother since day 1 ..never occurred to me to be upset or
> offended...i have been called many things recently IMO much worse than
> Birthmother; one thing i agree on; if i had to consider and worry all
> the time about what to refer to myself or someone else as in a mere emal
> or conversation, i would say someone was looking for drama instead of
> dealing with or working on an issue. my court papers refer to me as the
> *natural mother* and the only other thing i can think of to be called
> is real mother or first mom or life mom. does that cover it all?
> truthfully i am angry about having to worry about stuff like that when i
> have worse things to iron out. the only time i give a darn about labels
> (what to be called) is when and if it concerns the stinking adoptive
> parents
Stinking adoptive parents?
What, they don't validate you enough?
Snip the rest of the usual CB blah............
Kathy
_________mom (you fill in the blank; who gives a flying fig?
Robibnikoff
"Sandy Castle" <Poc...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> taking hits for an opinion? this is what i was told the this board was
> all about..taking no prisoners. anyway, I have called myself a
> birthmother since day 1 ..never occurred to me to be upset or
> offended...i have been called many things recently IMO much worse than
> Birthmother; one thing i agree on; if i had to consider and worry all
> the time about what to refer to myself or someone else as in a mere emal
> or conversation, i would say someone was looking for drama instead of
> dealing with or working on an issue. my court papers refer to me as the
> *natural mother* and the only other thing i can think of to be called
> is real mother or first mom or life mom. does that cover it all?
> truthfully i am angry about having to worry about stuff like that when i
> have worse things to iron out. the only time i give a darn about labels
> (what to be called) is when and if it concerns the stinking adoptive
> parents
Oh my. Shall I tell my amom I have a new nick name for her? Stinking?
Somehow I don't think she'll care for it.
At least she communicates with me, unlike my birthmother who has not
responded to the three-page letter I wrote her back in December 2005. Guess
she's been busy with her kept kids that she likes to go on and on about. I
especially loved when she told me how close they all are and how lucky she
is that they all live in the same town. Yuck, yuck :P
Jackie
On Oct 24, 1:42 pm, Poc...@webtv.net (Sandy Castle) wrote:
> anyway, I have called myself a
> birthmother since day 1 ..never occurred to me to be upset or
> offended...i have been called many things recently IMO much worse than
> Birthmother; one thing i agree on; if i had to consider and worry all
> the time about what to refer to myself or someone else as in a mere emal
> or conversation, i would say someone was looking for drama instead of
>dealing with or working on an issue.
For the life of me I can not sort why the drama is really going on..
I do not think anyone is going to stop adoption in the US.. I think
that is what Origins US is about.. or if I am wrong maybe someone can
help me out and explain.. I have been to the web page and I think I
remember quoting or reading the part that says adoption must go in the
US.
Jackie who hopes google will not post this twice..
lainie....@gmail.com
Jackie wrote:
> For the life of me I can not sort why the drama is really going on..
> I do not think anyone is going to stop adoption in the US.. I think
> that is what Origins US is about.. or if I am wrong maybe someone can
> help me out and explain.. I have been to the web page and I think I
> remember quoting or reading the part that says adoption must go in the
> US.
>
> Jackie who hopes google will not post this twice..
I'm all for stopping adoption in the USA, but I want to see adoption
stopped because nobody gets pregnant when they don't want to be and/or
can't care for a child.
I fail to see why this is so difficult for people (not you, Jackie) to
comprehend. No forced pregnancy= no adoption.
L.
Jackie
On Oct 24, 6:29 pm, lainie.peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>I'm all for stopping adoption in the USA, but I want to see adoption
> stopped because nobody gets pregnant when they don't want to be and/or
> can't care for a child.
>
> I fail to see why this is so difficult for people (not you, Jackie) to
> comprehend. No forced pregnancy= no adoption.
>
>L
Wise words Lainie..
And as I wrote I do not think this is going to happen any time soon in
the US.
And what I have been looking at is how do we deal with what we have..
How do we sort the situation at hand.. What is a good
adoption/relinquishment..
How do we give the pregnant woman the power she needs to do what she
wants to do.. not what others want her to do..
I have recently corresponded with some women who had adopted a baby
from a man and a woman who they knew before the birth.
Who had a relationship with the father and mother.. Who continue to
have a relationship with the birthfather and birthmother of the child
they adopted..
Its down to human consideration for me.. and anti aborts and balloons
(red ones are best) are not going to cut it IMO.
There is so much control going down..
Jackie who again hopes that this will only be posted once..
.
J.
Kathy wrote:
"Stinking adoptive parents?"
What is this, a remake of Treasure of the Sierra Madre? I get to be
Bogart.
J.
Lilmtncbn
On Oct 24, 11:42 am, Poc...@webtv.net (Sandy Castle) wrote:
> taking hits for an opinion? this is what i was told the this board was
> all about..taking no prisoners.
Uh, what were you expecting? Did you think we'd like eat you or
something?
>anyway, I have called myself a
> birthmother since day 1 ..never occurred to me to be upset or
> offended...i have been called many things recently IMO much worse than
> Birthmother; one thing i agree on; if i had to consider and worry all
> the time about what to refer to myself or someone else as in a mere emal
> or conversation, i would say someone was looking for drama instead of
> dealing with or working on an issue.
Ok. You can call yourself the Queen of Sheba. Really, nobody minds!
>my court papers refer to me as the
> *natural mother* and the only other thing i can think of to be called
> is real mother or first mom or life mom. does that cover it all?
See above. Call yourself whatever you want. Just don't expect anyone
else to to lock-step into place.
> truthfully i am angry about having to worry about stuff like that when i
> have worse things to iron out. the only time i give a darn about labels
> (what to be called) is when and if it concerns the stinking adoptive
> parents (how utterly thotless and immature of me for saying THAT)and
> THEY are the only ones in the world who, i should expect to have learned
> by now, to address me, the Birthmother as *your highness* or anything
> else they dont want to do.
Back away from the beer. Please. Anyone who uses the word "thot" and
expects to be taken seriously must be shit-faced.
>
> and why are you amused that the relinquishing moms of the era you
> mentioned consider themselves victims?
Who in the hell are you talking to? Who is this "you"? If you've
spent any time lurking or reading the archives, you'd see that this is
a pretty diverse group of posters...all who have their own opinions.
>i am confused about the way
> communication is contradicted here.
Uh, I'm getting the feeling that you just might be confused in general.
i thot that that is what has been
> rocking the house like you said, was and is the fact that forced
> relinqueshent creates victims, and unnecessarily separates families;
> disruption of the entire circle of life , obviously , of all the
> hundreds of blogs, websites, groups; so understand you are making some
> confusing contradictions, no, oh well, just my imagination; its just all
> so gothic.
Come again? In English this time?
>
> just needed to vent. watched the hallmark channel Naomi Judd Sunday,
> and it was all about adoption i mean reunion.
Typical feel-good adoption crapola.
>Seems that both Birthmom
> and Adoptee were working in the same dayspa and didnt know it; but when
> they came to discovery, both the adoptee and the BM were addressed at
> how wonderful everything was including adoption especially because the
> BM was so unselfish to do such a thing to give her child away to a
> complete stranger in love because she obviously didnt have enuf love or
> resources or deserving to raise her herself. (sos)
Well, if I were you, I'd dump the BM reference. But that's just me.
Jackie
>On Oct 24, 11:42!m, Poc...@webtv.net (Sandy Castle) wrote:
snipped some.
>> and why are you amused that the relinquishing moms of the era you
>> mentioned consider themselves victims?
>
>Who in the hell are you talking to? Who is this "you"? If you've
>spent any time lurking or reading the archives, you'd see that this is
>a pretty diverse group of posters...all who have their own opinions.
I tried to get some of them to come over here from Marley's blog.. and
actually discuss.. No such luck.. they want to sit over there and take
pot shots and not actually participate in a discussion.
snipped some.
>>Seems that both Birthmom
>> and Adoptee were working in the same dayspa and didnt know it; but when
>> they came to discovery, both the adoptee and the BM were addressed at
>> how wonderful everything was including adoption especially because the
>> BM was so unselfish to do such a thing to give her child away to a
>> complete stranger in love because she obviously didnt have enuf love or
>> resources or deserving to raise her herself. (sos)
>
>Well, if I were you, I'd dump the BM reference. But that's just me.
The term birthmom is verboten.. and BM is very rude!
Jackie
Lilmtncbn
On Oct 26, 7:00 am, Jackie <jackiejda...@w3connex.ca> wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2006 23:56:33 -0700, "Lilmtncbn" <lilmtn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 24, 11:42!m, Poc...@webtv.net (Sandy Castle) wrote:snipped some.
>
> >> and why are you amused that the relinquishing moms of the era you
> >> mentioned consider themselves victims?
>
> >Who in the hell are you talking to? Who is this "you"? If you've
> >spent any time lurking or reading the archives, you'd see that this is
> >a pretty diverse group of posters...all who have their own opinions.
>I tried to get some of them to come over here from Marley's blog.. and
> actually discuss.. No such luck.. they want to sit over there and take
> pot shots and not actually participate in a discussion.
I saw that, Jackie. Good on you! Hang in there.
>
> snipped some.
>
> >>Seems that both Birthmom
> >> and Adoptee were working in the same dayspa and didnt know it; but when
> >> they came to discovery, both the adoptee and the BM were addressed at
> >> how wonderful everything was including adoption especially because the
> >> BM was so unselfish to do such a thing to give her child away to a
> >> complete stranger in love because she obviously didnt have enuf love or
> >> resources or deserving to raise her herself. (sos)
>
> >Well, if I were you, I'd dump the BM reference. But that's just me.
>The term birthmom is verboten.. and BM is very rude!
I agree.
>
> Jackie
Kathy
You don't have to show me no stinking badges! ;-O
Kathy
(last time I checked I was still a mother)