Looking for Guidance on learning TW related JS

[Eris of StrongHold [STRM]]

I am interested in learning Javascript - but I want to learn it in a
way that we will useful for Tiddlywiki.

Can anyone recommend some Book and Website combination's that will get
me started?
(I spend 50% of my life with no internet access)

Thanks,

Mike

[Antaeus Feldspar]

Mike --

The website that I can best recommend is http://www.w3schools.com/JS/default.asp
and the book that I'm finding quite helpful is O'Reilly's $10
"Javascript: The Pocket Reference" but it would help us answer, I
think, if you said what kind of languages/paradigms you're experienced/
comfortable with already.

-- AF

On Mar 5, 4:55 pm, "Eris of StrongHold [STRM]" <eris...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Saq Imtiaz]

I got into programming and JavaScript for the same reason: TiddlyWiki.
What I found useful was the now "Old JavaScript Pages" linked to in
this site map:
http://www.quirksmode.org/sitemap.html
(Start with the General, Core, and DOM sections)

Combined with reading small TiddlyWiki macros and plugins, and
eventually the TiddlyWiki core. The TiddlyWiki core can be a little
daunting, but once you've familiarized yourself with basic programming
concepts like variables and functions, start off by looking at the
macros in the core, most are quite simple. (search the source of an
empty TiddlyWiki for config.macros. )

Note that I'm assuming you aren't familiar with any programming
languages....

Around the same time that you start delving into the core you might
find it helpful to read a splendid series of blog posts that Michael
Mahemoff wrote explaining some of the basic concepts in the TiddlyWiki
core code: http://softwareas.com/tiddlywiki-internals-1-of-3-architectural-concepts

Lastly, don't hesitate to ask questions should you have any.
Cheers,
Saq

On Mar 5, 10:55 pm, "Eris of StrongHold [STRM]" <eris...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Alex Hough]

Mike,

I have avoided spending on books for a couple of years. I thought I
could learn from the web. Now I have a book - JavaScript the missing
manual [1] - and it is starting to make sense. The book quickly goes
goes off into extolling the use of jQuery. I am hedging that this
learning route will be most productive as my knowledge of javascript
and jQuery synchronize in the near future when TW becomes increasingly
jQuery-like.

While considering which javascript book to buy, I spent rather long
time reading another book in the bookshop , Javascript ; the good
parts[2]. I didn't buy it, but a couple of days later thought that I
would return to get it - it was sold out; clearly not a scientific
measure of the quality of the book. Its a thin book, and written in a
really nice tone. My time with it, although brief, gave me an overview
and removed some fear.

[1] http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596515898/
[2] http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517748/?CMP=AFC-ak_book&ATT=JavaScript%3A+The+Good+Parts

2009/3/5 Eris of StrongHold [STRM] <eri...@gmail.com>:

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[Mike]

Just to clarify - I do not know any programming languages . . .
I have begun to reverse engineer other plugins and macros, and I get
along ok until I come across some of the more advanced stuff (ELS,
Udo, Saq)

I have multiple Bible & Missing Manual reference books an my desk -
and typically I read through an entire, then go back and use it as a
reference.

Thank You for all of the input, I am hoping to jump into a book
sometime this month. Hopefully it will help me at least be able to
pick through other peoples creations and have a better understanding
of what I am looking at.

I have recently fallen in lust with fET, but also have begun to see
some of its limitations & quite a few examples from ELS on how you can
solve the same problems with just JS or inline JS in a more eloquent
manner.

Thanks,

Mike

On Mar 6, 3:38 am, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I have avoided spending on books for a couple of years. I thought I
> could learn from the web. Now I have a book - JavaScript the missing
> manual [1] - and it is starting to make sense.  The book quickly goes
> goes off into extolling the use  of jQuery. I am hedging that this
> learning route will be most productive as my knowledge of javascript
> and jQuery synchronize in the near future when TW becomes increasingly
> jQuery-like.
>
> While considering which javascript book to buy, I spent rather long
> time reading another book in the bookshop , Javascript ; the good
> parts[2]. I didn't buy it, but a couple of days later thought that I
> would return to get it - it was sold out; clearly not a scientific
> measure of the quality of the book. Its a thin book, and written in a
> really nice tone. My time with it, although brief, gave me an overview
> and removed some fear.
>
> [1]http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596515898/

> [2]http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517748/?CMP=AFC-ak_book&ATT=JavaScr...
>
> 2009/3/5 Eris of StrongHold [STRM] <eris...@gmail.com>: