Former President Jimmy Carter said Republican presidential nominee John McCain has been "milking every possible drop of advantage" from the five years he was held in captivity as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.
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Taylorcofan
Aug 31, 2008, 4:42:22 PM8/31/08
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Jimmy Carter: McCain 'Milking' P.O.W. Experience
Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:47 PM
By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size
Former President Jimmy Carter said Republican presidential nominee
John McCain has been "milking every possible drop of advantage" from
the five years he was held in captivity as a prisoner of war in North
Vietnam.
Speaking Thursday at the Democratic National Convention in Denver,
Carter told USA Today reporters and editors that McCain uses his
P.O.W. experience as a crutch to deflect answering important questions
centering on his campaign for the White House.
Carter says he is puzzled by answers McCain gives on everything from
religion to domestic affairs to foreign policy.
"John McCain … weaves in his experience in a Vietnam prison camp, no
matter what the question [is]," says Carter. "It's much better than
talking about how he's changed his total character between being a
senator, a kind of a maverick at the time, and his acquiescence in the
last few months with every kind of lobbyist pressure that the right
wing Republicans have presented to him."
Carter, however, focused heavily on McCain. He said he was bewildered
by McCain's performance at the Saddleback Presidential Forum hosted by
pastor and author Rick Warren in Lake Forest, Calif., earlier this
month.
Carter said that whether he was asked about religion, domestic or
foreign affairs, every answer came back to McCain's 5½ years as a
POW.
Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:47 PM
By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size
Former President Jimmy Carter said Republican presidential nominee
John McCain has been "milking every possible drop of advantage" from
the five years he was held in captivity as a prisoner of war in North
Vietnam.
Speaking Thursday at the Democratic National Convention in Denver,
Carter told USA Today reporters and editors that McCain uses his
P.O.W. experience as a crutch to deflect answering important questions
centering on his campaign for the White House.
Carter says he is puzzled by answers McCain gives on everything from
religion to domestic affairs to foreign policy.
"John McCain … weaves in his experience in a Vietnam prison camp, no
matter what the question [is]," says Carter. "It's much better than
talking about how he's changed his total character between being a
senator, a kind of a maverick at the time, and his acquiescence in the
last few months with every kind of lobbyist pressure that the right
wing Republicans have presented to him."
Carter, however, focused heavily on McCain. He said he was bewildered
by McCain's performance at the Saddleback Presidential Forum hosted by
pastor and author Rick Warren in Lake Forest, Calif., earlier this
month.
Carter said that whether he was asked about religion, domestic or
foreign affairs, every answer came back to McCain's 5½ years as a
POW.
lebanonbornlebanonraised
Aug 31, 2008, 7:03:13 PM8/31/08
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And to thank that I use to have respect for Carter. How dare he, that
is like telling someone with no legs that they are milking it to get a
handicap parking spot.
is like telling someone with no legs that they are milking it to get a
handicap parking spot.
Taylorcofan
Aug 31, 2008, 7:09:47 PM8/31/08
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This may be one reason many P.O.W.'s have no respect for McCain
either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFhhvaIXA9A&feature=related
On Aug 31, 7:03 pm, lebanonbornlebanonraised
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either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFhhvaIXA9A&feature=related
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lebanonbornlebanonraised
Aug 31, 2008, 7:14:10 PM8/31/08
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Jimmy Carter was never a POW.Therefore he is talking out his ass.
On Aug 31, 7:09 pm, Taylorcofan <Taylorcodayandn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This may be one reason many P.O.W.'s have no respect for McCain
> either.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFhhvaIXA9A&feature=related
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
On Aug 31, 7:09 pm, Taylorcofan <Taylorcodayandn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This may be one reason many P.O.W.'s have no respect for McCain
Taylorcofan
Aug 31, 2008, 7:30:39 PM8/31/08
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I'd a lot of people are speaking from the same place when they talk
about McCains. I'd say that McCain has a lot of things to live with
IF YOU take the time to read his story. Of course I am sure it will
not fit into the right wing agenda or McCain's version..... but what
the heck.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-542277/How-war-hero-John-McCain-betrayed-Vietnamese-peasant-saved-life.html
How war hero John McCain betrayed the Vietnamese peasant who saved his
life
In all the tales of wartime courage peppering John McCain's
presidential campaign trail, perhaps the most outstanding example of
selfless heroism involves not the candidate but a humble Vietnamese
peasant.
On October 26, 1967, Mai Van On ran from the safety of a bomb shelter
at the height of an air raid and swam out into the lake where
Lieutenant Commander McCain was drowning, tangled in his parachute
cord after ejecting when his Skyhawk bomber was hit by a missile.
In an extraordinary act of compassion at a time when Vietnamese
citizens were being killed by US aerial bombardments, he pulled a
barely conscious McCain to the lake surface and, with the help of a
neighbour, dragged him towards the shore.
What followed, according to McCain, was five-and-a-half years of
torture and brutal beatings as a prisoner of war - an account that has
given a steely edge to his candidacy by establishing him as a true
American war hero.
But the story is at odds with the version uncovered by Vietnam veteran
Chuck Searcy, who lives in Hanoi and is in charge of the Vietnam
Veteran Memorial Fund.
In 1995, Mr On gave me a letter he wanted me to deliver to McCain,?
said Searcy.
'It said, 'I am the guy who pulled you out of the lake and I have
followed your progress over the years. I wish the best for you and
your family and I hope some day you will be president of the United
States.'
I thought it was endearing. I sent the letter to McCain's office and I
got back a sniffy response from some assistant saying, 'Mr McCain
isn't interested in these fanciful stories.'?
about McCains. I'd say that McCain has a lot of things to live with
IF YOU take the time to read his story. Of course I am sure it will
not fit into the right wing agenda or McCain's version..... but what
the heck.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-542277/How-war-hero-John-McCain-betrayed-Vietnamese-peasant-saved-life.html
How war hero John McCain betrayed the Vietnamese peasant who saved his
life
In all the tales of wartime courage peppering John McCain's
presidential campaign trail, perhaps the most outstanding example of
selfless heroism involves not the candidate but a humble Vietnamese
peasant.
On October 26, 1967, Mai Van On ran from the safety of a bomb shelter
at the height of an air raid and swam out into the lake where
Lieutenant Commander McCain was drowning, tangled in his parachute
cord after ejecting when his Skyhawk bomber was hit by a missile.
In an extraordinary act of compassion at a time when Vietnamese
citizens were being killed by US aerial bombardments, he pulled a
barely conscious McCain to the lake surface and, with the help of a
neighbour, dragged him towards the shore.
What followed, according to McCain, was five-and-a-half years of
torture and brutal beatings as a prisoner of war - an account that has
given a steely edge to his candidacy by establishing him as a true
American war hero.
But the story is at odds with the version uncovered by Vietnam veteran
Chuck Searcy, who lives in Hanoi and is in charge of the Vietnam
Veteran Memorial Fund.
In 1995, Mr On gave me a letter he wanted me to deliver to McCain,?
said Searcy.
'It said, 'I am the guy who pulled you out of the lake and I have
followed your progress over the years. I wish the best for you and
your family and I hope some day you will be president of the United
States.'
I thought it was endearing. I sent the letter to McCain's office and I
got back a sniffy response from some assistant saying, 'Mr McCain
isn't interested in these fanciful stories.'?
Foxtrot
Aug 31, 2008, 8:54:00 PM8/31/08
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lebanonbornlebanonraised. --- well stated.... because of loss of
credibility, does anybody even listen to Jimmy Carter any more? He's
done great things for Habitat for Humanity over the years which even
many Dem's have stated was his true calling. No doubt, hammer and
nail's are his best area of expertise. His days in the White House
were a disaster. Do you remember 22% inflation and interest rates? I
do very well....
On Aug 31, 7:14 pm, lebanonbornlebanonraised
credibility, does anybody even listen to Jimmy Carter any more? He's
done great things for Habitat for Humanity over the years which even
many Dem's have stated was his true calling. No doubt, hammer and
nail's are his best area of expertise. His days in the White House
were a disaster. Do you remember 22% inflation and interest rates? I
do very well....
On Aug 31, 7:14 pm, lebanonbornlebanonraised
rwhi...@elkcreek.net
Aug 31, 2008, 10:26:34 PM8/31/08
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Oh....And there was that small matter about a NOBEL PEACE
PRIZE....yeah I know...Just Liberals congratulating Liberals...
PRIZE....yeah I know...Just Liberals congratulating Liberals...
rwhi...@elkcreek.net
Aug 31, 2008, 10:30:58 PM8/31/08
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His days in the White House
were a disaster. Do you remember 22% inflation and interest rates? I
do very well....
Ignorance of History is no excuse Fox...That's like saying that
were a disaster. Do you remember 22% inflation and interest rates? I
do very well....
Richard Nixon was responsible for losing the Vietnam War...Oh by the
way...He was in charge of the peace treaty wasn't he??? Just how come
I don't hear you and your wacko neocon friends calling him and the
Republican Party out on that??? They were responsible weren't they???
cheshirecatldy
Sep 1, 2008, 8:58:37 AM9/1/08
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uh rw the inflation rate was higher during Carter's administration.
The Nobel prize didnt influence the white house, it was a personal
accomplishment. Hell, rw, he didnt get it until 2002, weeelll after
the white house gig. (no Iam not downing this monumental personal
award)
1979 11.3%
1980 13.5
1981 10.3
1982 6.2
1983 3.2
{ps I bet you remember Carter about like me RW, or are you now over
60???!!!!!!! My family was a Carter family too}
Nixon was a putz, a paranoid putz.
are there still people around that like him???? Couldnt we have
gotten Nixon for treason or something?
On Aug 31, 10:30 pm, "rwhitl...@elkcreek.net" <rwhitl...@elkcreek.net>
wrote:
The Nobel prize didnt influence the white house, it was a personal
accomplishment. Hell, rw, he didnt get it until 2002, weeelll after
the white house gig. (no Iam not downing this monumental personal
award)
1979 11.3%
1980 13.5
1981 10.3
1982 6.2
1983 3.2
{ps I bet you remember Carter about like me RW, or are you now over
60???!!!!!!! My family was a Carter family too}
Nixon was a putz, a paranoid putz.
are there still people around that like him???? Couldnt we have
gotten Nixon for treason or something?
On Aug 31, 10:30 pm, "rwhitl...@elkcreek.net" <rwhitl...@elkcreek.net>
wrote:
Jazzy-J
Sep 1, 2008, 10:49:44 AM9/1/08
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Lol
OMG CCL is starting to sound just like FR :) hahaha
"uh rw"
- Jazzy=J
cheshirecatldy
Sep 1, 2008, 3:20:45 PM9/1/08
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REEEEAAALLLYY? ( I hope that doesnt offend FR!!)
ALLLRIGHT!!
I did sorta there didnt I ?!!! Oh boy......
coolbeans
ALLLRIGHT!!
I did sorta there didnt I ?!!! Oh boy......
coolbeans
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