Lascelles/Velez Robledo engagement

[Michael Rhodes]

The engagement has been announced between the Hon Benjamin George
Lascelles (b 23 Nov 1978), scion of the Earls of Harewood, and a
descendant of HM King George V and Queen Mary, 1st son of David Henry
George Lascelles, styled Viscount Lascelles (born 21 October 1950), by
his 1st wife the former Margaret Rosalind Messenger (b 1948); &
Carolina Velez Robledo.

Benjamin and Carolina's marriage received the "Declaration of Consent"
from The Queen during a meeting of the Privy Council in February,
2009.

http://www.privy-council.org.uk/files/word/Council%20List%20February%202009.doc

Benjamin Lascelles was born prior to the marriage of his parents and
was legitimated when they married in 1979. He remains excluded from
the succession to the Throne and from the succession to the earldom of
Harewood. His older sister, Lady Emily Shard (reported to have wed
last year and is the mother of twins) born in 1976, is also excluded
from the line of succession to the Crown. His next brother,
Alexander, born in 1980, is in line to the Throne and to the earldom
of Harewood, and is said to be father of an illegitimate son.

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[Michael Rhodes]

Typo: Benjamin's sister, Emily, as daughter of a courtesy viscount is
styled "The Honourable"
and not Lady.......

On 18 Mar, 22:10, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> The engagement has been announced between the Hon Benjamin George
> Lascelles (b 23 Nov 1978), scion of the Earls of Harewood, and a
> descendant of HM King George V and Queen Mary, 1st son of David Henry
> George Lascelles, styled Viscount Lascelles (born 21 October 1950), by
> his 1st wife the former Margaret Rosalind Messenger (b 1948); &
> Carolina Velez Robledo.
>
> Benjamin and Carolina's marriage received the "Declaration of Consent"
> from The Queen during a meeting of the Privy Council in February,
> 2009.
>

> http://www.privy-council.org.uk/files/word/Council%20List%20February%...

[Shinjinee]

On Mar 19, 3:10 am, Michael Rhodes <mig73allenford2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> The engagement has been announced between the Hon Benjamin George
> Lascelles (b 23 Nov 1978), scion of the Earls of Harewood, and a
> descendant of HM King George V and Queen Mary, 1st son of David Henry
> George Lascelles, styled Viscount Lascelles (born 21 October 1950), by
> his 1st wife the former Margaret Rosalind Messenger (b 1948); &
> Carolina Velez Robledo.
>
> Benjamin and Carolina's marriage received the "Declaration of Consent"
> from The Queen during a meeting of the Privy Council in February,
> 2009.
>

> http://www.privy-council.org.uk/files/word/Council%20List%20February%...


If Benjamin and his elder sister are both illegitimate (for purposes
of succession to the Throne), why do they need Royal consent? Is this
to ensure that their rights aren't denied in case the Act of
Succession is changed, or is this a matter of form (and pride) for the
Lascelles family?

Did Mark (Hon. Mark?) Lascelles ask for permission to marry as well?
He is the youngest (illegitimate) son of the 7th Earl by his 2nd wife,
born before their marriage.

Shinjinee

[Michael Rhodes]

I raised this question last year when HM gave consent for the marriage
of Emily Tsering Lascelles and Matthew Shard:-


http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Peerage-News/browse_thread/thread/4fd596582b04b2cb/b77bfa3c948d3f65?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=shard#b77bfa3c948d3f65

I do not recall seeing Mark Lascelles seeking the Sovereign's approval
when he married Andrea Kershaw back in 1992.