Losing hope in Michigan {and not only there }
James
WYOMING, Mich. IT IS NO WONDER John McCain pulled the plug on his Michigan campaign this week when you listen to Scott Laskey. The 42-year-old regional manager for a compressed gas company was laughing at himself at his Wednesday bowling night in this suburb of Grand Rapids. Laskey voted for President Bush both times. The war and the economy has him voting for Democrat Barack Obama. "What was I thinking?" Laskey said. "How many times do I have to be hit over the head? Bush hasn't done anything." He said that with gasoline prices and other belt tightning, he had to put one of his three cars in the garage to afford car insurance for his son, and now Laskey, his wife, and their son have to share two cars in the suburbs. "The whole economy is out of control," Laskey said. "I think my insurance was like $45 when I was a teenager." Another bowler, Gerry Wojtaszek, a 49-year-old district manager for a furniture and appliance rental center, also voted both times for Bush. He, too, says he is voting for Obama. "The first time, I felt that the economy would step up under him," Wojtaszek said. "The second time, I was supportive of the war. But the economy's a hell in a handbasket. The war is still going on. I thought about voting for McCain on experience, but with all the time he's been in office, what has he done?" Michigan was assumed to be a battleground state after Democrat John Kerry won here in 2004 by only 165,000 votes out of 4.8 million cast. But with the nation's economic news being the gloomiest here, and September auto sales down over 30 percent at Ford and Chrysler, patience for McCain's experience is wearing thin. After a September where McCain had a small lead in two polls, now three polls show Obama with a double-digit lead for the first time. The day that McCain's campaign confirmed it was abandoning Michigan, Obama worked this Republican part of the state with an outdoor rally of about 16,000 people in downtown Grand Rapids. Grand Rapids is in Kent County, which Bush handily won. While Obama voters chanted for change, McCain supporters at the bowling lanes and other places wondered how much enthusiasm there was for their candidate. The Grand Rapids Press this week reported that compared with 2004, when Bush outraised Kerry in Kent County by four-and-a-half times, McCain has outraised Obama by only double. Three of Laskey's bowling buddies - Tom Buckowing, a 47-year-old office chair maker, Dan Potts, a 53-year-old director of an office supplies distribution company, and Rob Houck, a 46-year-old self-employed painter - are still supporting McCain, but Houck and Buckowing said that could change depending on the economy. Houck said he is now painting two houses for every seven he painted a couple of years ago. Potts recently watched 70 fellow workers, including his son, lose their jobs as his company was swallowed up in a merger. Buckowing has been going back and forth and is leaning toward McCain for his experience, though he is bothered by McCain's choice of Sarah Palin because of her inexperience. There were two other bowlers at the Laskey table. Scott Verhage, 23, bowls on the team in place of his father, who died four years ago. He is voting for Obama on the economy as he has watched his overtime be eliminated at his job as a gas station cashier. He has suffered many indignities of having people irate at the price of gasoline take it out on him verbally and knock merchandise at his feet. Ken Koster, a 50-year-old division supervisor for a food distributor, has not been a registered voter for 14 years. He says he's registering to vote for Obama. "I'm tired of killing myself for nothing," he said. "The $700 billion bailout is the final straw. When are they going to bail US out?" With that, it is easy to see why McCain bailed out of Michigan. Dr King was a Community Organizer!! George Wallace was a Governor!! |
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"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini
jimstaro
And if so, you're giving a really poor example, not only the user name
but if profile right Your Profession, but I doubt you see that, Others
Do!!!!!!!
On Oct 4, 9:55 am, grunt1...@aol.com wrote:
> voting for Democrat Barack Obama.
>
> Same as voting for Adolph,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <starj...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jim <jimst...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 7:15 am
> Subject: Losing hope in Michigan {and not only there }
>
> WYOMING, Mich.
>
Larry Wilson
Larry
Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid. --President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1954 (source: Eisenhower Presidential Papers, Document #1147; November 8, 1954 The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV - The Presidency: The Middle Way Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954,) Chapter 13: "A new phase of political experience"
jimstaro
that places You with the Group wanting an Imperial Presidency and
little legislative power, thus Making You A Wanna-Be Facist, certainly
not Barack nor those Dems and Indies like me an 'Adolf' follower!!!!
You should Really Think before typing, as hard as that is for you
all!!!
>
> Same as voting for Adolph,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <starj...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jim <jimst...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 7:15 am
> Subject: Losing hope in Michigan {and not only there }
>
> WYOMING, Mich.
>
jimstaro
more likely an (I), Thanks a heap to All You Little freepers!!!
But keep posting your little crap responses, debate is a foreign word
for you idiots, I Love Getting Folks Switched And It's So Easy With
The Wealth Of Stupidity Posted From You Folks!!!!
BD
Iraq and Afghanistan, or at least to his goons in the VFP.
BD
lexicon means a loyal member of the CPUSA.
BD
perversion as in "spanking" or is he talking about gender exchange?
Larry Wilson
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ProudL...@aol.com
James,It's actually just a projection by the Reich-wing. They are, unconsciously, ashamed of their racist, Fascist party (and, btw, turd - Hitler wasn't a Fascist like Mussolini and Bush I & II.).After all, who would the KKK, Stormfront, Aryan Nations, etc. etc. join up with? The Rethuglicans or the Dems?One thing's for sure; they'd NEVER join the Dems. All that 'equality' and 'human dignity' stuff is repulsive to them.
They'd join their white, Xian brethern in the Grand Old Phucks party.
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:02 AM, jimstaro <star...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Same as voting for Adolph,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "
Adolf who, there grunt, but something tells me you're Not!!!!!!
And if so, you're giving a really poor example, not only the user name
but if profile right Your Profession, but I doubt you see that, Others
Do!!!!!!!
On Oct 4, 9:55 am, grunt1...@aol.com wrote:
> voting for Democrat Barack Obama.
>
> Same as voting for Adolph,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <starj...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jim <jimst...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 7:15 am
> Subject: Losing hope in Michigan {and not only there }
>
> WYOMING, Mich.
>
>
> IT IS NO WONDER John McCain pulled the plug on his Michigan campaign this week when you listen to Scott Laskey. The 42-year-old regional manager for a compressed gas company was laughing at himself at his Wednesday bowling night in this suburb of Grand Rapids. Laskey voted for President Bush both times. The war and the economy has him voting for Democrat Barack Obama.
>
> "What was I thinking?" Laskey said. "How many times do I have to be hit over the head? Bush hasn't done anything."
>
> He said that with gasoline prices and other belt tightning, he had to put one of his three cars in the garage to afford car insurance for his son, and now Laskey, his wife, and their son have to share two cars in the suburbs. "The whole economy is out of control," Laskey said. "I think my insurance was like $45 when I was a teenager."
>
> Another bowler, Gerry Wojtaszek, a 49-year-old district manager for a furniture and appliance rental center, also voted both times for Bush. He, too, says he is voting for Obama.
>
> "The first time, I felt that the economy would step up under him," Wojtaszek said. "The second time, I was supportive of the war. But the economy's a hell in a handbasket. The war is still going on. I thought about voting for McCain on experience, but with all the time he's been in office, what has he done?"
>
> Michigan was assumed to be a battleground state after Democrat John Kerry won here in 2004 by only 165,000 votes out of 4.8 million cast. But with the nation's economic news being the gloomiest here, and September auto sales down over 30 percent at Ford and Chrysler, patience for McCain's experience is wearing thin. After a September where McCain had a small lead in two polls, now three polls show Obama with a double-digit lead for the first time.
>
> The day that McCain's campaign confirmed it was abandoning Michigan, Obama worked this Republican part of the state with an outdoor rally of about 16,000 people in downtown Grand Rapids. Grand Rapids is in Kent County, which Bush handily won. While Obama voters chanted for change, McCain supporters at the bowling lanes and other places wondered how much enthusiasm there was for their candidate.
>
> The Grand Rapids Press this week reported that compared with 2004, when Bush outraised Kerry in Kent County by four-and-a-half times, McCain has outraised Obama by only double.
>
> Three of Laskey's bowling buddies - Tom Buckowing, a 47-year-old office chair maker, Dan Potts, a 53-year-old director of an office supplies distribution company, and Rob Houck, a 46-year-old self-employed painter - are still supporting McCain, but Houck and Buckowing said that could change depending on the economy. Houck said he is now painting two houses for every seven he painted a couple of years ago. Potts recently watched 70 fellow workers, including his son, lose their jobs as his company was swallowed up in a merger. Buckowing has been going back and forth and is leaning toward McCain for his experience, though he is bothered by McCain's choice of Sarah Palin because of her inexperience.
>
> There were two other bowlers at the Laskey table. Scott Verhage, 23, bowls on the team in place of his father, who died four years ago. He is voting for Obama on the economy as he has watched his overtime be eliminated at his job as a gas station cashier. He has suffered many indignities of having people irate at the price of gasoline take it out on him verbally and knock merchandise at his feet. Ken Koster, a 50-year-old division supervisor for a food distributor, has not been a registered voter for 14 years. He says he's registering to vote for Obama.
>
> "I'm tired of killing myself for nothing," he said. "The $700 billion bailout is the final straw. When are they going to bail US out?"
>
> With that, it is easy to see why McCain bailed out of Michigan.
>
> Dr King was a Community Organizer!! George Wallace was a Governor!!
Larry Wilson
Larry Wilson
grun...@aol.com
grunty - still have a gun? kill yourself, now...
Wow, terrific discourse,,,,,,,,,,,,only cowards kill themselves,,,,,,,,,,,,I kill the enemy,,,,,,,,,,,,,Art
grun...@aol.com
little grunt, as to using the name Adolf, if the one I think, than that places You with the Group wanting an Imperial Presidency and little legislative power, thus Making You A Wanna-Be Facist, certainly not Barack nor those Dems and Indies like me an 'Adolf' follower!!!! You should Really Think before typing, as hard as that is for you
I used to think I was not too smart until I started to read the thoiughts on this asshole thread,,,,,,,,,,,,
jimstaro
With replys like that you should than stop replying, talk about Not To
Smart, little one!!!!!
On Oct 5, 1:03 pm, grunt1...@aol.com wrote:
> little grunt, as to using the name Adolf, if the one I think, than
> that places You with the Group wanting an Imperial Presidency and
> little legislative power, thus Making You A Wanna-Be Facist, certainly
> not Barack nor those Dems and Indies like me an 'Adolf' follower!!!!
>
> You should Really Think before typing, as hard as that is for you
>
> I used to think I was not too smart until I started to read the thoiughts on this asshole thread,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimstaro <starj...@yahoo.com>
> To: Open Debate Political Forum IMHO <OpenDeb...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:36 am
> Subject: Re: Losing hope in Michigan {and not only there }
>
> little grunt, as to using the name Adolf, if the one I think, than
> that places You with the Group wanting an Imperial Presidency and
> little legislative power, thus Making You A Wanna-Be Facist, certainly
> not Barack nor those Dems and Indies like me an 'Adolf' follower!!!!
>
> You should Really Think before typing, as hard as that is for you
> all!!!
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
jimstaro
Well to answer at the Level you'll better understandm I take it your's
hasn't finished yet, or did they screw it up and you're caught in the
Halfway!!!!!
jimstaro
and rate the replys, their stupidity up, anyone who disagress with
their stupidity down, Ain't That Cute, from these Big Tough
Guys!!!!! ;o]