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Top McCain aide says McCain won't die during his
first term in office, and admits Palin isn't ready to be commander in
chief
John Aravosis (DC) · 8/29/2008 11:15:00 PM ET · Link
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Putting aside the creepiness of a top McCain adviser having to reassure the nation that McCain, at 72 years of age with four bouts of cancer, won't die in office, what Charlie Black said today was particularly damning of McCain's VP choice, Sarah Palin:
(*We had the two hour lunch with Bill Clinton two years ago, and when I worked on the Hill I attended a private sit down meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin in the early 90s. At the Rabin meeting, were only 8 or so of us in the room, and not enough chairs, so I was standing up against a wall, Rabin saw me, scooched over, and made me share the chair with him. I was mortified, and very impressed.)
John Aravosis (DC) · 8/29/2008 11:15:00 PM ET · Link
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Putting aside the creepiness of a top McCain adviser having to reassure the nation that McCain, at 72 years of age with four bouts of cancer, won't die in office, what Charlie Black said today was particularly damning of McCain's VP choice, Sarah Palin:
Mr. McCain’s advisers said Friday that Mr. McCain was well aware that Ms. Palin would be criticized for her lack of foreign policy experience, but that he viewed her as exceptionally talented and intelligent and that he felt she would be able to be educated quickly.So Black, the guy who said another 9/11-style attack on America would help McCain's campaign, is saying that McCain's VP doesn't know a thing about national security, but she can learn on the job over the next four years, you know, like night school. We're at war. And they're admitting that Palin may be our next commander in chief on day one, if McCain were to die or fall ill in office, yet she knows nothing about national security, and has never met a world leader. I, a blogger, have met more world leaders than McCain's VP.* Chew on that.
“She’s going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the next four years, and most doctors think that he’ll be around at least that long,” said Charlie Black, one of Mr. McCain’s top advisers, making light of concerns about Mr. McCain’s health, which Mr. McCain’s doctors reported as excellent in May.
(*We had the two hour lunch with Bill Clinton two years ago, and when I worked on the Hill I attended a private sit down meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin in the early 90s. At the Rabin meeting, were only 8 or so of us in the room, and not enough chairs, so I was standing up against a wall, Rabin saw me, scooched over, and made me share the chair with him. I was mortified, and very impressed.)
Conservatives preach about liberty and freedom. Liberals put them into
practice.
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Aug 30, 2008, 10:47:25 AM8/30/08
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Picture this: THE OVAL OFFICE........Obama sitting behind the
desk. Across from him.....Rev Wright, Ayers, Resco and
Michelle ........."laughing" at your stupidity and blindness.
On Aug 29, 11:51 pm, ProudLiber...@aol.com wrote:
> _Top McCain aide says McCain won't die during his first term in office, and
> admits Palin isn't ready to be commander in chief_
> (http://www.americablog.com/2008/08/top-mccain-aide-says-mccain-wont-d...)
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> McCain_
> (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR200...) 's campaign, is saying that McCain's VP doesn't know a thing
> deal here.
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desk. Across from him.....Rev Wright, Ayers, Resco and
Michelle ........."laughing" at your stupidity and blindness.
On Aug 29, 11:51 pm, ProudLiber...@aol.com wrote:
> _Top McCain aide says McCain won't die during his first term in office, and
> admits Palin isn't ready to be commander in chief_
> (http://www.americablog.com/2008/08/top-mccain-aide-says-mccain-wont-d...)
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> 8/29/2008 11:15:00 PM ET · _Link_
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>
> Putting aside the creepiness of a top McCain adviser having to reassure the
> nation that McCain, at 72 years of age with four bouts of cancer, won't die
> in office, what _Charlie Black said today_
> Putting aside the creepiness of a top McCain adviser having to reassure the
> nation that McCain, at 72 years of age with four bouts of cancer, won't die
> (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/29palin.html?_r=1&hp&or...) was particularly damning of
> McCain's VP choice, Sarah Palin:
> Mr. McCain’s advisers said Friday that Mr. McCain was well aware that Ms.
> Palin would be criticized for her lack of foreign policy experience, but that
> he viewed her as exceptionally talented and intelligent and that he felt she
> would be able to be educated quickly.
>
> “She’s going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the
> next four years, and most doctors think that he’ll be around at least that
> long,” said Charlie Black, one of Mr. McCain’s top advisers, making light of
> concerns about Mr. McCain’s health, which Mr. McCain’s doctors reported as
> excellent in May.
> So Black, the guy who said _another 9/11-style attack on America would help
> Mr. McCain’s advisers said Friday that Mr. McCain was well aware that Ms.
> Palin would be criticized for her lack of foreign policy experience, but that
> he viewed her as exceptionally talented and intelligent and that he felt she
> would be able to be educated quickly.
>
> “She’s going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the
> next four years, and most doctors think that he’ll be around at least that
> long,” said Charlie Black, one of Mr. McCain’s top advisers, making light of
> concerns about Mr. McCain’s health, which Mr. McCain’s doctors reported as
> excellent in May.
> McCain_
> (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR200...) 's campaign, is saying that McCain's VP doesn't know a thing
> about national security, but she can learn on the job over the next four
> years, you know, like night school. We're at war. And they're admitting that
> Palin may be our next commander in chief on day one, if McCain were to die or
> fall ill in office, yet she knows nothing about national security, and has
> never met a world leader. I, a blogger, have met more world leaders than McCain's
> VP.* Chew on that.
>
> (*We had the two hour lunch with Bill Clinton two years ago, and when I
> worked on the Hill I attended a private sit down meeting with Israeli Prime
> Minister Yitzak Rabin in the early 90s. At the Rabin meeting, were only 8 or so of
> us in the room, and not enough chairs, so I was standing up against a wall,
> Rabin saw me, scooched over, and made me share the chair with him. I was
> mortified, and very impressed.)
>
> Conservatives preach about liberty and freedom. Liberals put them into
> practice.
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
> years, you know, like night school. We're at war. And they're admitting that
> Palin may be our next commander in chief on day one, if McCain were to die or
> fall ill in office, yet she knows nothing about national security, and has
> never met a world leader. I, a blogger, have met more world leaders than McCain's
> VP.* Chew on that.
>
> (*We had the two hour lunch with Bill Clinton two years ago, and when I
> worked on the Hill I attended a private sit down meeting with Israeli Prime
> Minister Yitzak Rabin in the early 90s. At the Rabin meeting, were only 8 or so of
> us in the room, and not enough chairs, so I was standing up against a wall,
> Rabin saw me, scooched over, and made me share the chair with him. I was
> mortified, and very impressed.)
>
> Conservatives preach about liberty and freedom. Liberals put them into
> practice.
>
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
ProudL...@aol.com
Aug 30, 2008, 7:54:32 PM8/30/08
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Imagine this:
January 2009: McCain back in the Senate, Palin back being
investigated and possibly impeached in Alaska, Rezko still has no connection to
Obama, Wright is enjoying his retirement, Michelle is busy raising the girls
and, if she has time, doing First Lady stuff and President Obama sitting in the
Oval Office, smiling, thinking of nuts like you and thanking you for his
Electoral College landslide.
Oh, and your Daddy Bush sells the Texas "ranch" and heads off to
Connecticut to play golf with his Daddy.
Conservatives preach about liberty and freedom.
Liberals put them into practice.
BlueFlorida
Sep 6, 2008, 6:50:13 PM9/6/08
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Yes....corruption. We've lived with it:
Report Number: Senate Report 105-167 Part - 3
Title: INVESTIGATION OF ILLEGAL OR IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN CONNECTION
WITH 1996 FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
Committee: COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
CONCLUSION
Significant hurdles impeded the Committee's ability to investigate
thoroughly many of matters addressed herein. Notwithstanding these
hurdles, the Committee has obtained evidence sufficient to demonstrate
a problematic course of conduct, and to cite certain specific illegal
or improper campaign practices involving the White House, the Clinton/
Gore campaign, the DNC and the Teamsters.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.......we've lived through long drawn out wars:
Congressional Record Issue: UNITED STATES PRESENCE IN BOSNIA (Senate -
November 04, 1997)
Section of Record: Senate
[Page: S11621]
Mr. ROBERTS. Mr. President, yesterday those who cover national
security policy and issues within our Nation's press reported the best-
kept nonsecret in Washington; namely, what has already been discussed
or leaked or trial ballooned or decided upon and reported for weeks in
the United States and the international media has finally become
public--sort of.
In the last days of this session, the administration apparently will
now consult with the Congress and today announce what has been
obvious, and that is, Mr. President, that the United States has no
intention of leaving Bosnia by the once stated deadline of the 8th of
June of next year.
President Clinton has not said this outright. The position to date is
that he has not ruled out staying beyond June 8. However, given the
overall goals of the Dayton accords in juxtaposition with the ongoing
ethnic apartheid reality in Bosnia, the concern of our allies, the
coming of winter in Bosnia, and the crucial and obvious need for U.S.
and allied commanders to have enough time for central planning have
all forced the administration's hand.
Simply put, the clock is moving toward the stated deadline to have the
SFOR mission in Bosnia completed. And simply put, whatever that
mission is and despite recent and obvious changes under our stated
mission, it is not complete.
It is long past the time for the President and his national security
team to simply tell it like it is. Despite the past promises to limit
our engagement to 1 year, and then 2 years, and now indefinitely--I
might add, promises that should not have been made and could not be
kept--we are in Bosnia, for better or worse, for the long haul.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.....we've had our China buddy:
Congressional Record Issue: CALLING FOR RESIGNATION OF SANDY BERGER --
(House of Representatives - May 25, 1999)
Section of Record: House
[Page: H3511]
---
(Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, the fact is Sandy Berger is our
national security advisor. The fact is Sandy Berger was once China's
chief lobbyist in America. The fact is now there is a hole in our
national security so big we could throw Berger and all our secrets all
the way to China nonstop. Beam me up.
For the good of America, Sandy Berger should resign as our national
security advisor. Sandy Berger is very close to China. In Washington,
perception becomes reality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.........we've had our sock stuffers:
Congressional Record Issue: SANDY BERGER'S DEAL IS SHADY -- (House of
Representatives - April 13, 2005)
Section of Record: House
[Page: H1902]
---
(Mr. PITTS asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. PITTS. Madam Speaker, last year, former Clinton National Security
Adviser Sandy Berger stole classified documents from the National
Archives, five copies of an ``after-action'' memo on the 2000
millennium terror plot, to be precise. He later destroyed, he cut up,
three of the copies that contained handwritten notes from
administration officials. Then, he lied about it to Federal
investigators. The memo was severely critical of the Clinton
administration's handling of the incident.
Recently, we learned that Mr. Berger made a deal with Federal
officials, and the deal was not 5 years in prison instead of 10. No,
he gets a slap on the wrist in exchange for admitting he lied.
So let us just make sure we have the score right here. Martha Stewart
tells a lie about a stock sale; she goes to prison. Sandy Berger lies
about stealing and destroying national security documents; he gets a
slap on the wrist. So send the person who lied about money to jail,
but go easy on the person who lied about stolen and destroyed
classified documents who tried to cover up the public record on an
issue of life and death and national security.
Justice? Sorry to say, not this time.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes........we've had our big spenders:
Kerry's tax-cut rollback would hit 900,000 small businesses.
The Kerry health care plan, for instance, could cost as much as $1
trillion, experts say, which would eat up most if not all of the
revenue generated by raising taxes on those making more than $200,000
a year.
The practice of earmarking allows members of Congress to divert
federal funds directly to preferred projects, usually in their home
states. What started as a run-of-the-mill legislative prerogative has
swelled out of control in the past few years as members of both
parties doled out special favours to contributors and the American
public began to view earmarks as dirty money or "pork".
McCain has made his name as a crusader against earmarks, calling the
targeted spending a waste of taxpayers' money and vowing never to seek
them for Arizona. In fact, his zealous anti-earmark stand played a
major role in sealing McCain's reputation as a "maverick" with few
friends in the Republican establishment.
Clinton sought a $1m earmark for the museum, which is located in the
small New York town that hosted the 1969 Woodstock music festival, to
a $606bn spending bill last year. Museum at Bethel Woods
"Now, my friends, I wasn't there," McCain said of the famously drug-
fuelled Woodstock festival. "I'm sure it was a cultural and
pharmaceutical event. I was tied up at the time."
------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.......We've had bad times with other countries: oops Pakistan!
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS,
Washington, DC, February 19, 1998.
Hon. Madelein K. Albright,
Secretary of State,
Washington, DC.
Dear Madeleine: Knowing that the President intends to visit South Asia
later this year, I have been giving some thought to the United States'
relationship with Pakistan, particularly, the F-16 problem and other
bilateral issues.
First, I am concerned that it may not be possible to have a successful
presidential trip to Pakistan if we have not made any progress in
addressing the F-16 issue.
You will recall that in 1995, President Clinton, meeting with then
Prime Minister Bhutto, noted the apparent unfairness of the U.S.
refusal to either provide Pakistan with the F-16s it had bought or
refund the money paid for the aircraft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But now it is time for Americans to have a chance.
Let's stop and think. In the mid 1940's, America was the worlds
largest "steel" provider. It kept this country going. What would
happen if THIS country decided to be hands on people again? What if
this country offered up the best and brightest ideas for the future?
The laws that are being passed now and in the past....are killing this
nation. They need to be changed. It's time for Washington to stop
and remember it is the "citizens" that demand to be "free". The
government was NOT created to "controll" the spirit. Americans are
full of spirit....but have been BELTED with "don'ts". Do you for one
moment....think Americans want to harm our
country ...environmentally?...financially? With Obama and
Biden......you will invite two lawyers to "run" our lives a bit more
and more:
Here is a Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I
will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to
perform 50 hours of community service a year, and for all college
students to perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon,
Iowa
Is this service going to turn into something else? Are the kids going
to pick up others trash? Who will tell your child he/she MUST do this
service, or what? A monetary fine on the parents?
Twilight Zone........you have just entered Hitlers lair.......or
daddy's home. And how old are you...is your family of good morals?
Maybe not.....I should fix them.
Since when did it become a liberal's job to "tell" me to inflate my
tires or what school my child can go to?
If you measured people by respect other than thinking them
ignorant......your job would be easier.
First, we find ways to cut the waste. Number One: "Earmarks". Zip
Zap....they are gone. How much do you think that would amount to?
Oh, the crys from Washington will be heard in California.
Second, we turn Americans loose from the bonds of Washington....and
the backdoor European Democrats.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Aug 30, 7:54 pm, ProudLiber...@aol.com wrote:
> Imagine this:
>
> January 2009: McCain back in the Senate, Palin back being investigated and
> possibly impeached in Alaska, Rezko still has no connection to Obama, Wright
> is enjoying his retirement, Michelle is busy raising the girls and, if she
> has time, doing First Lady stuff and President Obama sitting in the Oval
> Office, smiling, thinking of nuts like you and thanking you for his Electoral
> College landslide.
>
> Oh, and your Daddy Bush sells the Texas "ranch" and heads off to Connecticut
> to play golf with his Daddy.
>
> Conservatives preach about liberty and freedom. Liberals put them into
> practice.
>
> In a message dated 8/30/2008 7:47:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>
> (http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&url=http://www.americablog.com/2008/08... aide> says McCain won't die during his first term in office, and admits Palin
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>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Report Number: Senate Report 105-167 Part - 3
Title: INVESTIGATION OF ILLEGAL OR IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN CONNECTION
WITH 1996 FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
Committee: COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
CONCLUSION
Significant hurdles impeded the Committee's ability to investigate
thoroughly many of matters addressed herein. Notwithstanding these
hurdles, the Committee has obtained evidence sufficient to demonstrate
a problematic course of conduct, and to cite certain specific illegal
or improper campaign practices involving the White House, the Clinton/
Gore campaign, the DNC and the Teamsters.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.......we've lived through long drawn out wars:
Congressional Record Issue: UNITED STATES PRESENCE IN BOSNIA (Senate -
November 04, 1997)
Section of Record: Senate
[Page: S11621]
Mr. ROBERTS. Mr. President, yesterday those who cover national
security policy and issues within our Nation's press reported the best-
kept nonsecret in Washington; namely, what has already been discussed
or leaked or trial ballooned or decided upon and reported for weeks in
the United States and the international media has finally become
public--sort of.
In the last days of this session, the administration apparently will
now consult with the Congress and today announce what has been
obvious, and that is, Mr. President, that the United States has no
intention of leaving Bosnia by the once stated deadline of the 8th of
June of next year.
President Clinton has not said this outright. The position to date is
that he has not ruled out staying beyond June 8. However, given the
overall goals of the Dayton accords in juxtaposition with the ongoing
ethnic apartheid reality in Bosnia, the concern of our allies, the
coming of winter in Bosnia, and the crucial and obvious need for U.S.
and allied commanders to have enough time for central planning have
all forced the administration's hand.
Simply put, the clock is moving toward the stated deadline to have the
SFOR mission in Bosnia completed. And simply put, whatever that
mission is and despite recent and obvious changes under our stated
mission, it is not complete.
It is long past the time for the President and his national security
team to simply tell it like it is. Despite the past promises to limit
our engagement to 1 year, and then 2 years, and now indefinitely--I
might add, promises that should not have been made and could not be
kept--we are in Bosnia, for better or worse, for the long haul.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.....we've had our China buddy:
Congressional Record Issue: CALLING FOR RESIGNATION OF SANDY BERGER --
(House of Representatives - May 25, 1999)
Section of Record: House
[Page: H3511]
---
(Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was given permission to address the House
for 1 minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, the fact is Sandy Berger is our
national security advisor. The fact is Sandy Berger was once China's
chief lobbyist in America. The fact is now there is a hole in our
national security so big we could throw Berger and all our secrets all
the way to China nonstop. Beam me up.
For the good of America, Sandy Berger should resign as our national
security advisor. Sandy Berger is very close to China. In Washington,
perception becomes reality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.........we've had our sock stuffers:
Congressional Record Issue: SANDY BERGER'S DEAL IS SHADY -- (House of
Representatives - April 13, 2005)
Section of Record: House
[Page: H1902]
---
(Mr. PITTS asked and was given permission to address the House for 1
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. PITTS. Madam Speaker, last year, former Clinton National Security
Adviser Sandy Berger stole classified documents from the National
Archives, five copies of an ``after-action'' memo on the 2000
millennium terror plot, to be precise. He later destroyed, he cut up,
three of the copies that contained handwritten notes from
administration officials. Then, he lied about it to Federal
investigators. The memo was severely critical of the Clinton
administration's handling of the incident.
Recently, we learned that Mr. Berger made a deal with Federal
officials, and the deal was not 5 years in prison instead of 10. No,
he gets a slap on the wrist in exchange for admitting he lied.
So let us just make sure we have the score right here. Martha Stewart
tells a lie about a stock sale; she goes to prison. Sandy Berger lies
about stealing and destroying national security documents; he gets a
slap on the wrist. So send the person who lied about money to jail,
but go easy on the person who lied about stolen and destroyed
classified documents who tried to cover up the public record on an
issue of life and death and national security.
Justice? Sorry to say, not this time.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes........we've had our big spenders:
Kerry's tax-cut rollback would hit 900,000 small businesses.
The Kerry health care plan, for instance, could cost as much as $1
trillion, experts say, which would eat up most if not all of the
revenue generated by raising taxes on those making more than $200,000
a year.
The practice of earmarking allows members of Congress to divert
federal funds directly to preferred projects, usually in their home
states. What started as a run-of-the-mill legislative prerogative has
swelled out of control in the past few years as members of both
parties doled out special favours to contributors and the American
public began to view earmarks as dirty money or "pork".
McCain has made his name as a crusader against earmarks, calling the
targeted spending a waste of taxpayers' money and vowing never to seek
them for Arizona. In fact, his zealous anti-earmark stand played a
major role in sealing McCain's reputation as a "maverick" with few
friends in the Republican establishment.
Clinton sought a $1m earmark for the museum, which is located in the
small New York town that hosted the 1969 Woodstock music festival, to
a $606bn spending bill last year. Museum at Bethel Woods
"Now, my friends, I wasn't there," McCain said of the famously drug-
fuelled Woodstock festival. "I'm sure it was a cultural and
pharmaceutical event. I was tied up at the time."
------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.......We've had bad times with other countries: oops Pakistan!
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS,
Washington, DC, February 19, 1998.
Hon. Madelein K. Albright,
Secretary of State,
Washington, DC.
Dear Madeleine: Knowing that the President intends to visit South Asia
later this year, I have been giving some thought to the United States'
relationship with Pakistan, particularly, the F-16 problem and other
bilateral issues.
First, I am concerned that it may not be possible to have a successful
presidential trip to Pakistan if we have not made any progress in
addressing the F-16 issue.
You will recall that in 1995, President Clinton, meeting with then
Prime Minister Bhutto, noted the apparent unfairness of the U.S.
refusal to either provide Pakistan with the F-16s it had bought or
refund the money paid for the aircraft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But now it is time for Americans to have a chance.
Let's stop and think. In the mid 1940's, America was the worlds
largest "steel" provider. It kept this country going. What would
happen if THIS country decided to be hands on people again? What if
this country offered up the best and brightest ideas for the future?
The laws that are being passed now and in the past....are killing this
nation. They need to be changed. It's time for Washington to stop
and remember it is the "citizens" that demand to be "free". The
government was NOT created to "controll" the spirit. Americans are
full of spirit....but have been BELTED with "don'ts". Do you for one
moment....think Americans want to harm our
country ...environmentally?...financially? With Obama and
Biden......you will invite two lawyers to "run" our lives a bit more
and more:
Here is a Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I
will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to
perform 50 hours of community service a year, and for all college
students to perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon,
Iowa
Is this service going to turn into something else? Are the kids going
to pick up others trash? Who will tell your child he/she MUST do this
service, or what? A monetary fine on the parents?
Twilight Zone........you have just entered Hitlers lair.......or
daddy's home. And how old are you...is your family of good morals?
Maybe not.....I should fix them.
Since when did it become a liberal's job to "tell" me to inflate my
tires or what school my child can go to?
If you measured people by respect other than thinking them
ignorant......your job would be easier.
First, we find ways to cut the waste. Number One: "Earmarks". Zip
Zap....they are gone. How much do you think that would amount to?
Oh, the crys from Washington will be heard in California.
Second, we turn Americans loose from the bonds of Washington....and
the backdoor European Democrats.
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On Aug 30, 7:54 pm, ProudLiber...@aol.com wrote:
> Imagine this:
>
> January 2009: McCain back in the Senate, Palin back being investigated and
> possibly impeached in Alaska, Rezko still has no connection to Obama, Wright
> is enjoying his retirement, Michelle is busy raising the girls and, if she
> has time, doing First Lady stuff and President Obama sitting in the Oval
> Office, smiling, thinking of nuts like you and thanking you for his Electoral
> College landslide.
>
> Oh, and your Daddy Bush sells the Texas "ranch" and heads off to Connecticut
> to play golf with his Daddy.
>
> Conservatives preach about liberty and freedom. Liberals put them into
> practice.
>
> In a message dated 8/30/2008 7:47:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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jimstaro
Sep 6, 2008, 8:09:28 PM9/6/08
to Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
Really Extremely Bad There little blue, Sorta One Sided, and for
Everyone You Think Is Wrong, Can Be Matched 5to10, at least, With
Those That Really Are, On The GOP Side Of The Political Spectrum!!!!!
Oh The Same Goes For The Preachers, son!!!!
Now Please Try And Be The Reality, Instead Of The
Stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> ...
>
> read more »
Everyone You Think Is Wrong, Can Be Matched 5to10, at least, With
Those That Really Are, On The GOP Side Of The Political Spectrum!!!!!
Oh The Same Goes For The Preachers, son!!!!
Now Please Try And Be The Reality, Instead Of The
Stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> read more »
jimstaro
Sep 6, 2008, 8:24:54 PM9/6/08
to Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
Oh and little blue, Everytime you or the other clowns, like lew, post
up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
> ...
>
> read more »
up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
>
> read more »
Preda...@aol.com
Sep 7, 2008, 7:48:42 AM9/7/08
to OpenDeb...@googlegroups.com
In a message dated 9/6/2008 7:25:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
star...@yahoo.com writes:
Oh and little blue, Everytime you or the other clowns, like lew, post
up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
Would that be the hate whitey and God damn America preachers that Obamba
endorses thru his 22 year attendance?
Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
jimstaro
Sep 7, 2008, 8:01:03 AM9/7/08
to Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
"Would that be the hate whitey and God damn America preachers that
Obamba
endorses thru his 22 year attendance?"
You to pedder, just keep 'Bringing 'em On!!!
Obamba
endorses thru his 22 year attendance?"
On Sep 7, 7:48 am, Predato...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/6/2008 7:25:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
>
> starj...@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Oh and little blue, Everytime you or the other clowns, like lew, post
> up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
> Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
> of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
> like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
>
> So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
>
> Would that be the hate whitey and God damn America preachers that Obamba
> endorses thru his 22 year attendance?
>
> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
>
> Oh and little blue, Everytime you or the other clowns, like lew, post
> up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
> Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
> of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
> like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
>
> So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
>
> Would that be the hate whitey and God damn America preachers that Obamba
> endorses thru his 22 year attendance?
>
> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)BlueFlorida
Sep 8, 2008, 10:10:54 AM9/8/08
to Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
Well, it is obvious you do not agree with setting the citizens free to
build our economy.
But did you know "Harry Reid" ...(gasp).... agreed with President Bush
over 60% of the time?
Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I will set
a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50
hours of community service a year, and for all college students to
perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon, Iowa
And you didn't remark about Obama's stance on education and or who
would head up this new law.....where's the money coming from?...
Consider the size of the USA school population...larger than our
military.
McCain tends to believe "parents' should be responsible and
intelligent enough to want the best for their children. "Bad teachers
need to find new work" and good teachers rewarded. He also believes
in the right for families to choose where their child goes to school.
AND......government support for those that desire charter schools.
Quite a nice school competition verses Obama's "control theory".
A bonus? You and the liberal media have not reported on Obama's
"billion dollar" earmark on hold until the election is over. This
is the same Obama that paid $11,000,000.00 to Mr. Jones' Chicago
district after he helped Obama win in Illinois. Seems that billion
dollar earmark will come in handy due to the number of people he owes.
Another hidden secret......seems another "promise" has not been
reported on. I believe I know why Oprah cried at Obama's convention
speech. Oprah is about to get an "apology" from the "white
Americans." With it's promised adoption after Obama is
elected......why would this be hidden from the public and not reported
on in the liberal media? Aren't the liberals proud Obama is
running?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
H.RES.194
Title: Apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of
African-Americans.
Sponsor: Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] (introduced 2/27/2007) Cosponsors
(120)
Latest Major Action: 7/29/2008 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On
motion to suspend the rules and agree to the resolution, as amended
Agreed to by voice vote.
————————————————– ——————————
SUMMARY AS OF:
2/27/2007–Introduced.
Acknowledges the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and
inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow. Apologizes to African-Americans on
behalf of the U.S. people for the wrongs committed against them and
their ancestors. Commits to rectifying the lingering consequences of
slavery and Jim Crow and to stopping future human rights violations.
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build our economy.
But did you know "Harry Reid" ...(gasp).... agreed with President Bush
over 60% of the time?
Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I will set
a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50
hours of community service a year, and for all college students to
perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon, Iowa
would head up this new law.....where's the money coming from?...
Consider the size of the USA school population...larger than our
military.
McCain tends to believe "parents' should be responsible and
intelligent enough to want the best for their children. "Bad teachers
need to find new work" and good teachers rewarded. He also believes
in the right for families to choose where their child goes to school.
AND......government support for those that desire charter schools.
Quite a nice school competition verses Obama's "control theory".
A bonus? You and the liberal media have not reported on Obama's
"billion dollar" earmark on hold until the election is over. This
is the same Obama that paid $11,000,000.00 to Mr. Jones' Chicago
district after he helped Obama win in Illinois. Seems that billion
dollar earmark will come in handy due to the number of people he owes.
Another hidden secret......seems another "promise" has not been
reported on. I believe I know why Oprah cried at Obama's convention
speech. Oprah is about to get an "apology" from the "white
Americans." With it's promised adoption after Obama is
elected......why would this be hidden from the public and not reported
on in the liberal media? Aren't the liberals proud Obama is
running?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
H.RES.194
Title: Apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of
African-Americans.
Sponsor: Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] (introduced 2/27/2007) Cosponsors
(120)
Latest Major Action: 7/29/2008 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On
motion to suspend the rules and agree to the resolution, as amended
Agreed to by voice vote.
————————————————– ——————————
SUMMARY AS OF:
2/27/2007–Introduced.
Acknowledges the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and
inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow. Apologizes to African-Americans on
behalf of the U.S. people for the wrongs committed against them and
their ancestors. Commits to rectifying the lingering consequences of
slavery and Jim Crow and to stopping future human rights violations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> In a message dated 9/6/2008 7:25:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
>
>
> starj...@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Oh and little blue, Everytime you or the other clowns, like lew, post
> up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
> Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
> of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
> like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
>
> So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
>
> Would that be the hate whitey and God damn America preachers that Obamba
> endorses thru his 22 year attendance?
>
> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
>
> Oh and little blue, Everytime you or the other clowns, like lew, post
> up these it just Reminds Everyone about the Corrupt GOP's and the
> Numbers of Them, especially over these last years, and the Preachers
> of the religious? wingnuts, so called christians? who sound Exactly
> like the fundies of the al Qaeda's of this world!!!!!
>
> So please keep 'Bringin 'em On'!!!!!!
>
> Would that be the hate whitey and God damn America preachers that Obamba
> endorses thru his 22 year attendance?
>
> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)
Ann...@aol.com
Sep 8, 2008, 12:03:47 PM9/8/08
to OpenDeb...@googlegroups.com
In a message dated 9/8/2008 10:11:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blufl...@aol.com writes:
Well, it is obvious you do not agree with setting the citizens free to
build our economy.
But did you know "Harry Reid" ...(gasp).... agreed with President Bush
over 60% of the time? WOW, where have i been? Harry Reid is running for potus? dang
Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I will set
a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50
hours of community service a year, and for all college students to
perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon, Iowa and what is wrong with that? service means just that, not paid.
And you didn't remark about Obama's stance on education and or who
would head up this new law.....where's the money coming from?...
Consider the size of the USA school population...larger than our
military. oh, the money is there, cut the GOP stupid programs You don't think education is that important????
McCain tends to believe "parents' should be responsible and
intelligent enough to want the best for their children. "Bad teachers
need to find new work" and good teachers rewarded. He also believes
in the right for families to choose where their child goes to school.
AND......government support for those that desire charter schools.
Quite a nice school competition verses Obama's "control theory". Parents can choose now, always have been able, tell us something new.
BlueFlorida
Sep 8, 2008, 12:30:18 PM9/8/08
to Open Debate Political Forum IMHO
But did you know "Harry Reid" ...(gasp).... agreed with President
Bush
> over 60% of the time? WOW, where have i been? Harry Reid is running for
> potus? dang
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Bush
> over 60% of the time? WOW, where have i been? Harry Reid is running for
> potus? dang
IN REFERENCE TO "MCCAIN VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF THE TIME.....DUH.
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a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform
50
hours of community service a year, and for all college students to
perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon, Iowa and
what is
wrong with that? service means just that, not paid.
WHO IS OVERSEEING THIS JOB PROJECT? THERE ARE MORE SCHOOL CHILDREN
THAN IN OUR MILITARY. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THE "OVERBURDENED" SCHOOLS
OVERSEE THIS NEW LAW? WHAT HAPPENS IF PARENTS DON'T WANT THEIR
CHILDREN TO DO THIS....IS THE FAMILY MONETARILY FINED .....OR JAIL
TIME? (parents are responsible for their children you know)
IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROL. POOR PARENTS....THEY NEED HELP WITH THE
MORALS OF THEIR KIDS!
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oh, the money is there, cut the GOP stupid programs You don't
> think education is that important????
I'VE GOT A BETTER IDEA........LET'S TAKE THAT BILLION DOLLAR EARMARK
OBAMA HAS TUCKED AWAY UNTIL ELECTION.
ONE SENATOR HAS A STASH OF A BILLION DOLLARS.....ELIMINATE THE OTHER
EARMARKS AND YOUR EDUCATION PROBLEM IS OVER.
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Parents
> can choose now, always have been able, tell us something new.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> can choose now, always have been able, tell us something new.
TRY TELLING THAT TO THE PARENTS THAT CAN NOT AFFORD THE "GREAT
SCHOOLS".
WHAT?.....FIX THE OLD ONES?......PUT MORE METAL DETECTORS IN THE
SCHOOLS?
On Sep 8, 12:03 pm, Anni...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/8/2008 10:11:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>
> bluflor...@aol.com writes:
>
> Well, it is obvious you do not agree with setting the citizens free to
> build our economy.
> But did you know "Harry Reid" ...(gasp).... agreed with President Bush
> over 60% of the time? WOW, where have i been? Harry Reid is running for
> potus? dang
>
> Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I will set
> a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50
> hours of community service a year, and for all college students to
> perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon, Iowa and what is
> wrong with that? service means just that, not paid.
>
> And you didn't remark about Obama's stance on education and or who
> would head up this new law.....where's the money coming from?...
> Consider the size of the USA school population...larger than our
> military. oh, the money is there, cut the GOP stupid programs You don't
> think education is that important????
>
> McCain tends to believe "parents' should be responsible and
> intelligent enough to want the best for their children. "Bad teachers
> need to find new work" and good teachers rewarded. He also believes
> in the right for families to choose where their child goes to school.
> AND......government support for those that desire charter schools.
> Quite a nice school competition verses Obama's "control theory". Parents
> can choose now, always have been able, tell us something new.
>
> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
>
> Well, it is obvious you do not agree with setting the citizens free to
> build our economy.
> But did you know "Harry Reid" ...(gasp).... agreed with President Bush
> over 60% of the time? WOW, where have i been? Harry Reid is running for
> potus? dang
>
> Barack Obama quote about Education "So when I'm president, I will set
> a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50
> hours of community service a year, and for all college students to
> perform 100 hours of service a year."—12/5/07, Mt. Vernon, Iowa and what is
> wrong with that? service means just that, not paid.
>
> And you didn't remark about Obama's stance on education and or who
> would head up this new law.....where's the money coming from?...
> Consider the size of the USA school population...larger than our
> military. oh, the money is there, cut the GOP stupid programs You don't
> think education is that important????
>
> McCain tends to believe "parents' should be responsible and
> intelligent enough to want the best for their children. "Bad teachers
> need to find new work" and good teachers rewarded. He also believes
> in the right for families to choose where their child goes to school.
> AND......government support for those that desire charter schools.
> Quite a nice school competition verses Obama's "control theory". Parents
> can choose now, always have been able, tell us something new.
>
> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)Reply all
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