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11553Re: Logical rationality & The Absolute, explaining Sense

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  • Serge Patlavskiy
    Aug 23, 2013
      Craig Weinberg <multisenserealism@...> on Wed, Aug 21, 2013 wrote:
      >> <otmar.pokorny@...>: Time and space are absolutes.
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      >Progressions are nothing but a sense of progress. Time and
      >space are nothing but a sense of experienced sequence and
      >division. It's all sense. Sense is the capacity to experience
      >and project experience, which is sensory-motive presence.
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      [S.P.] As to me, I make a difference between "sensing" as a physical or physiologic process of dealing with physical signals, and "making sense" as a mental process. If some sequence is experienced, it means that it has made sense for the given subject of cognitive activity at some moment in the past. If we now have "a sense of experienced sequence", it is nothing but "making sense (now) of making sense (in the past)", and it takes place due to the cyclical character of the process of cognition. Therefore, time, as some measure of changes, is indeed a subjective construct, whereas the very changes are objective, or absolute.
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      We perceive cyclical processes in the world because the very process of cognition is a cyclical process itself. The interaction of these two cyclical processes begets the very conception of "time". The cyclicality of the process of cognition makes possible the existence of a phenomenon of "inner clock", or "inner feeling of time-flow".
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      As to the concept of space, or better say, of "empty space", there are many misunderstandings as well. For example, if a space hosts some objects, then it should not reduce in size. Say, if a room is of 50 cubic meters, then it will stay of the same volume despite of the fact that it can become filled up with furniture from a floor to a ceiling. However, if the new furniture occupies too much space, we say that there is no more space in our room. In other words, the space disappears. So, the question is a valid one: is there still a space in case there is no space in the room? Or, in other words, if the object occupies some space, does it mean that the correspondent amount of space disappears? If the space does not disappear, then it is something absolute.
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      Hope, my remarks will reduce the tensions between the discussants. :-)
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      Kindly,
      Serge Patlavskiy
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