Reservations... My thoughts

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Prahalathan KK

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May 22, 2006, 1:54:56 PM5/22/06
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Hi,
Students from the so called 'Forward castes' could get only 28 of the 1224 MBBS seats in Tamil Nadu in 2005! In my batch at Madurai Medical College there was only one guy from the FC in the whole batch of 156 that entered in 1999.
 
So who exactly needs a reservation? I think a discussion about this is flooding the mail boxes of people. I've written something on my blog... please leave your comments with your email ID (like this Prahalathan AT hotmail DOT com) if you want me to get back to you. I'll respond ASAP. I'll reply to all your comments on the blog at night so you can come back for my reply if necessary.
 
BTW I'm one of the moderators of Chennai Chapter. I joined this group only recently.

 
Asatoma sadgamaya,
Tamasoma jyotirgamaya,
Mrutyorma amrutangamaya.

On 22/05/06, Himanshu (Aajaad) <agarwal.h...@gmail.com > wrote:

Yeah, I do support this notion.

We can't say this a secular society until our constitution needs the
second\sur name of a person. It means distinction is being made on the
basis of second\sur name of a person between citizens of India. Its
like dividing India with virtual boundaries. We don't need partitioned
India, we need one India.
But on the other part as the speed of herd depends on it's slowest
element same as for the country. Progress of the country depends on
it's least progressed man. But, reservation on the basis of
caste\religion isn't the right way to improve that. It's the only way
to make vote bank.
If the reservation was made on the basis of a person's financial factor
it may be better. And the consequences associated with it are same as
that of reservation made on the basis of caste\religion.
So, i would say please do understand what is the real desire of these
corrupt politicians and do vote against reservation.

Help India to become really secular country.

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Yeah, I do support this notion.

We can't say this a secular society until our constitution needs the
second\sur name of a person. It means distinction is being made on the
basis of second\sur name of a person between citizens of India. Its
like dividing India with virtual boundaries. We don't need partitioned
India, we need one India.
But on the other part as the speed of herd depends on it's slowest
element same as for the country. Progress of the country depends on
it's least progressed man. But, reservation on the basis of
caste\religion isn't the right way to improve that. It's the only way
to make vote bank.
If the reservation was made on the basis of a person's financial factor
it may be better. And the consequences associated with it are same as
that of reservation made on the basis of caste\religion.
So, i would say please do understand what is the real desire of these
corrupt politicians and do vote against reservation.

Help India to become really secular country.







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Prahalathan.
http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/

'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are
bound to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato

Vinayak

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May 23, 2006, 6:57:35 AM5/23/06
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Great write up Prahlathan

By the way I am interested in this statistics, % forward caste students
etc .... especially in Government medical colleges that are run by
collecting taxes from the PUBLIC

Where can I get it ? ,


regards
Vinayak

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> <br><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi, </font></div>
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> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Students from the so called 'Forward castes' could


> get only 28 of the 1224 MBBS seats in Tamil Nadu in 2005! In my batch at Madurai Medical College there was
> only one guy from the FC in the whole batch of 156 that entered in

> 1999.</font></div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">So who exactly needs a reservation? I think a


> discussion about this is flooding the mail boxes of people. I've written
> something on my blog... please leave your comments with your email ID (like this
> Prahalathan AT hotmail DOT com) if you want me to get back to you. I'll respond
> ASAP. I'll reply to all your comments on the blog at night so you can come back

> for my reply if necessary.</font></div><div>&nbsp;<br>BTW I'm one of the moderators of Chennai Chapter. I joined this group only recently.<br><br></div>
> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regards,<br>Prahalathan.<br><a href="http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/">http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/</a></font></div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Asatoma sadgamaya,<br>Tamasoma
> jyotirgamaya,<br>Mrutyorma amrutangamaya.</font></div><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 22/05/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Himanshu (Aajaad)</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:agarwal.h...@gmail.com">agarwal.h...@gmail.com
> </a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>Yeah, I do support this notion.<br><br>We can't say this a secular society until our constitution needs the
> <br>second\sur name of a person. It means distinction is being made on the<br>basis of second\sur name of a person between citizens of India. Its<br>like dividing India with virtual boundaries. We don't need partitioned<br>
> India, we need one India.<br>But on the other part as the speed of herd depends on it's slowest<br>element same as for the country. Progress of the country depends on<br>it's least progressed man. But, reservation on the basis of
> <br>caste\religion isn't the right way to improve that. It's the only way<br>to make vote bank.<br>If the reservation was made on the basis of a person's financial factor<br>it may be better. And the consequences associated with it are same as
> <br>that of reservation made on the basis of caste\religion.<br>So, i would say please do understand what is the real desire of these<br>corrupt politicians and do vote against reservation.<br><br>Help India to become really secular country.
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> </a> via web at 2006-05-22 16:51:18<br><br>Yeah, I do support this notion.<br><br>We can't say this a secular society until our constitution needs the<br>second\sur name of a person. It means distinction is being made on the
> <br>basis of second\sur name of a person between citizens of India. Its<br>like dividing India with virtual boundaries. We don't need partitioned<br>India, we need one India.<br>But on the other part as the speed of herd depends on it's slowest
> <br>element same as for the country. Progress of the country depends on<br>it's least progressed man. But, reservation on the basis of<br>caste\religion isn't the right way to improve that. It's the only way<br>to make vote bank.
> <br>If the reservation was made on the basis of a person's financial factor<br>it may be better. And the consequences associated with it are same as<br>that of reservation made on the basis of caste\religion.<br>So, i would say please do understand what is the real desire of these
> <br>corrupt politicians and do vote against reservation.<br><br>Help India to become really secular country.<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Prahalathan.<br><a href="http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/">http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/</a><br><br>'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are
> <br>bound to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato
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Prahalathan KK

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May 23, 2006, 9:39:37 AM5/23/06
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> Hi Vinayak,
> I've provided links to most facts I've quoted. Please check the related
> links at the end.


>
> Regards,
> Prahalathan.
> http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/
>
> 'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are
> bound to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato

Abhijit K

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May 23, 2006, 11:59:53 AM5/23/06
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Please check the statistics reported in "The Hindu" today. They say that so-called lower-castes are not properly represented in education.
Regards,
Abhijit K,
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