Uniting and Rejunvenating BM

[Ravi Kant Pathak]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

vandemaatram!

 

Once upon a time I was member of BM_USA chapter. then  I moved to India in January 2007. However, I am in Hong Kong right now and I will back in India next year. I will be serving IIT Delhi as Asst. Professor. In last nine months, I was touring India (for first five months) and trying to initiate the first BM centre in my own village. This centre (ashram) will ceaselessly work for the rise of that village. I strongly believe that without reviving our village economy, India can not become a great nation again. recently there were many articles about it posted by our members on the group.

 

Is that enough? we talk about freedom fighters, farmers coming suicide etc. what we do?? Nothing!!  In our daily routine life inertia pulls us back from actions. at the end of the day, if we find time to read an article about our country , we feel charged up and we feel we have contributed to the country by loving it. we all love our country. we feel so much emotional, then what we do??  please go through a self-analysis. what stops us??

 

Let us rejuvenate ourselves and contribute everyday. I urge all BM  members to do something everyday for our motherland India. Please do something to spread the nationalism around you. we need people to save this great nation. how many of us are saving atleast Rs.5/day for India? how many of us search like minded people every day around us? we an army of patriots under the umbrella of bharat Uday Mission, do we do anything worth to this great nation.  when I say so I am not talking in air. I possess passion for my country, and eventually i am ready to give my entire life for my motherland, but I need people to support my path; morally/spiritually, physically and economically. If we want to achieve goals we set before us, we need to go every village and study their problems and find solutions for them. for that we shall need initially huge infrastruture to create self-sustianing centres in the village. to do so, we shall need financial contributions from each one of us. Here I am talking about at least a million dollar budget. how should we go ahead. who will donate? what righteous means means we shall have to earn that amount of money? and how long it will take?

This is time to make commitment and strive to fulfill them; this time to be generous and courageous to take decisions to contribute to the nation.

 

I pledge for the followings:

 

1) I commit to donate one million Rs. for the cause ( I will donate equivant worth land to establish these centre). Infact I have already initiated the work). My parents are working day and night to establish the centre (karmayogi ashram). I have already invested quater million Rs. in the ashram.

 

2) I commit to strive day and night to approach people who can donate for establishing these centres in different village. I will approach local industialists, Govt. organization, non-govt. organizations in this nation building projects. everyone should be involved; thus only we cna create an environment/atmosphere of national service. if you want more information about these projects please write me.

 

3) I will physically work in the construction of these centre. I will lead the ideological team of this project and I pledge to work as a manual laborer in this nation building mission.

 

4) I take responsibility of every penny donated for the mission and all finacial integrety will be maintianed.

 

5) I will start a BM hong kong chapter soon and unite Indians here.

6) I will also pray GOD to help us our BM endeavors!!

 

 

what is expected from BM India:

 

1) at least 50 members who can donate Rs. 25000for the cause

2) atleast 100  member who can donate Rs.$11000 for the cause

3) atleast 1000 members who can donate atleast Rs.$ 1000 for the cause

4) atleast 5 members who can give their time and idea in the development of these centres.

5) Few members to find time to come India and take up some responsibility of development

 

Please search your heart and if you find purity and appeal in the above mail please act!

let get rechagre for the work and let us do something worht in our lives. jai hind!

 

satyamev jayate!!

Ravi kant

 

HONG KONG

852-27199005 (home)

852-95712014. (cell - borrowed from gayathri for while:))

 

[Social Ownership]

Respected Sh. Ravi Kant Pathak Bhai,

I hope, you are in good health and are happy in your personal life end. Nice to see your email after a long time. I read your mail and want to raise some questions. I think that Indian society needs very deep and dedicated efforts with understanding of society and life. Here understanding does not mean bookish or airy things. I hope you will not have problems with my questions.

 

Why did you opt your own parents for your center? How do you decide that the cost of your parental land is about one million Rs?

How do you feel that you should feel ownership on your parental property? Did you earn it? 

You have been living out side from India for last many years and you came India for few months, you started some thing in your own land, in your own village under supervision of your own parents.

I can arrange you much bigger land (more than Rs One Million) in other state from your own parental place, you can start there your center there. You lived in USA, what are the reasons to trust on your center to donate money? I think you are totally confused- you came to India for few months, in these months you visited IITs and other Elite Institutes to deliver lectures and you spend some part of your time in construction in your land by saying that it is a Social Center.

When you motivated society? When you participated in social issues of common society? When you discussed with common society that what should be done and how?

Why are you demanding money from others and for what? Why do you see all things just in money and currency?

Can you make India as a great nation by getting 5 Rs or teaching in IIT?

You have been living in USA for years and now you are going to become a faculty in IIT Delhi. My brother, some time I feel that for you, India is a joke only.

Why do you need to be a Faculty of IIT? (I think only for Illusions to avoid hard path in life).

If you will say that it is because you need some money for your livelihood, then why are you not interested to be a faculty in any small engineering college near to your center (you will be able to contribute in your center in a real sense). Do you think that from the Capital of India, and by using Illusions of IIT etc to capture the political power will be easy? If you think it, then you are in confusion and also in two opposite banks in the same time. 

 

You are talking for Village Economy and also you are demanding currency and money. These are the contradictions and indicate that you lack the understandings.

My brother by these things you can not move towards greatness of any society. Dear Nation is a political system and the Theory and Word "Nation" was initiated by British Colonial Systems.

I think you are in very much hurry just to show that you are doing this or that. Please be serious and be honest for common society.

 

One more thing, Village is not a complete unit (think it seriously). One more thing, please try to discuss with your own understandings, do not use other's things I.e.  Gandhi told this or one told this or that.

I would like to discuss on the ground of your own understandings.

 

Do you think that society or social movements can be initiated by lighting candles in Delhi by calling people with payment and then by sending emails? 

 

Please do not mind my email.

I know where are you moving in mistakes. I know that society lacks dedicated and conceptual personalities. I want to suggest you even you will become angry and will start to abuse me directly or indirectly. But you should introspect by these and more questions. You have no right to continue the things by these the trust of society was misused and is being exploited.

What are you writing, these are good to get awards as Magsaysay and enjoy the life but these have lesser relation towards social solution.

 

If you are interested deep discussion, I am ready for it.

love

vivek

ps- first try to remove your internal insecurity complexes. (think on this suggestion seriously without being reactive)

......................
Vivek Umrao
coord...@localgovernance.org
www.localgovernance.org/family.html
(Committed to Last Person of Society with Social Governance)

 

**** Former Researcher- Indian Institute of Management (IIM)
* Coordinator-- Local Governance & Decentralized Economy Social Group
* Coordinator for International Relation-- GOKUL University.
* Vice Chairman-- Koya Wes Institute
* Member-- Asha (www.ashanet.org)
* Former Secretary-to-Trustee Secretary-- Gandhi Smarak Nidhi, Rajghat, ND

 

***WORK FIELDS ---
Decentralized Economy, Social Democracy, Water Issues, Education, Human Values, Decentralized & Local Technology, Street Play, Tribal Solutions, Social Corporate systems, Alternative Writings.

[Surendran B]

With all respect to Mr.Vivek, I would like to answer a few issues that he has raised in his reply to the mail from Shri. Ravi Kant.  The purpose of this mail is not to defend anyone but to answer the issues from the perspective of a member of BM.  Being a member I feel that the allegations (if I may use that term) made by Mr.Vivek can well be applied to anybody in the organization and not directed to one person alone.

 The foremost issue pointed out by Mr.Vivek is that people are wasting their most efficient years in acquiring identities rather than doing contributions.  A number of great leaders of India, particularly during freedom struggle, gave their heart and soul and some gave even their lives for the sake of the country and post independence some of them continued to work for the survival of India as a democracy and they did succeed.  I think I need not mention any particular names.  The point I like to make here is most of these leaders did spend their most productive years in acquiring the same identities.  I might sound crude but it is a fact that the economic security(as they belonged to well off families) they had did play a role in their decision to renounce everything and commit themselves fully for the cause of the society.  They did not have any prior experience in the field. I do not intend to compare the members of BM to those great human beings but I would like to point out that acquiring professional identities from an institution outside the country need not always stand in the way of the commitment of a person to contribute for the sake of the country. I will not wishfully discount the fact that there were leaders, who came from humble backgrounds, suffered a lot and rose up to great levels purely through their hard work and commitment.  The point I like to make here I that a successful and committed person can emerge from any section of the society and what is need is the right spirit.

 I don't want to sound like a Marxist but I would like to raise a basic question.  When the daily bread is in question, where will one get the strength to rise up and fight for the cause of the society?  And to that effect what is wrong in one working towards acquiring a professional identity for the self.

 If acquiring/possessing identity is not a big deal can Mr.Vivek please explain to all why the following message is being appended to all the mails.

 
Vivek Umrao
coord...@localgovernance.org
www.localgovernance.org/family.html
(Committed to Last Person of Society with Social Governance)

 

**** Former Researcher- Indian Institute of Management (IIM)
* Coordinator-- Local Governance & Decentralized Economy Social Group
* Coordinator for International Relation-- GOKUL University.
* Vice Chairman-- Koya Wes Institute
* Member-- Asha (www.ashanet.org)
* Former Secretary-to-Trustee Secretary-- Gandhi Smarak Nidhi, Rajghat, ND

 

***WORK FIELDS ---
Decentralized Economy, Social Democracy, Water Issues, Education, Human Values, Decentralized & Local Technology, Street Play, Tribal Solutions, Social Corporate systems, Alternative Writings.

 

            "Any social organization is gradually formed by the society." Most of the successful social organizations of the past, I believe, were initiated by the educated youth, who had an alternate identity for themselves and it slowly progressed towards the common man in due course of time.  If social organizations can be successful in that way, why shouldn't BM succeed in the same way?  There may be/ are initial teething problems which nobody is going to deny but why shouldn't they be resolved?     

 
            It is true that people who are a part of BM do belong to diverse backgrounds and may be striving to acquire a professional identity for themselves.  But we are bound together by only common idea of working for the betterment of the society and realizing the dream of a developed India.  The processes we adopt towards the goals may be error ridden but that in no way is an indication of shortness of commitment or dedication.  When somebody becomes the full-time member after a few years, at that time there would be more fresh members who are striving to acquire for an identity for themselves and at the same time get associated with BM and the process is continuous. 

 
IF IDEAS CAN BE HELD AS THE FOUNDATION TO WHAT EVER MANKIND HAS ACHIEVED THEN THE IDEAS WE HAVE CONCEIVED IN BM WILL TAKE US IN THE RIGHT PATH TOWARDS OUR ULTIMATE GOAL AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE OVERCOME THE PROBLEMS.

 
Jai hind

surendran

 PS: I am neither a academic/scholar nor an experienced writer but I have tried my level best to put my ideas into words so that it could convey the message what I wanted to.

[Vivek Umrao Glendenning]

Respected Dr Ravi Kant Ji, Dr Reddy Ji, Dr Kamal Ji, Surendran Ji, Ranjan Ji and others

 

I apologize for my all mails. I think, I should not reply in mails. I have understood that BM is a great organization and all are great.

Respected Brothers and Sisters,

Please this time forgive me, I will try my best to not put my leg in any discussion or matter.

I hope I will be forgiven.

Please Respected Dr Reddy Ji forgive me, Please Surendran Ji forgive me, Please Dr Ravi Kant Pathak Ji forgive me, Please Dr Kamal Kishore Sharma ji forgive me, Please Ranjan Ji forgive me, Please all BM members forgive me.

I promise, I will try to praise BM and its members by accepting their greatness and completeness.

 

love

vivek

ps- please forgive me, please accept my apology. please.

 

 

 

 

Subject: Re: [BM_discussion] Re: Uniting and Rejunvenating BM

Dear Vivek

 

I hate to entre in to any debate. But, now, I request you, stop it. I agree with you regarding asking for money in such large quantities.  I donot find any logic. Money should come automatically when the work needs it. First one has to start working.

 

But

 

Tum bahut muh fat ho.

Kya tumhara yaha manana hai ki tapsya sirf jangal me ya himalay jaisi pahdiyon me ki ja sakti hai? Kya nagarme rehene walonme koi tapswi nahi banta?

 

Kya manav jatiko sevake liye ghar bar chhodneki aawashyakta hai? Ky koi apni jagaha, apne kartavyanko nibhate huve logonki seva karte hi nahi?

 

Maan liya ki tum is dishame sabse bahut hi aage ho.

Mera manana hai ki tumne pichhle janam me chhoda huva adhura kaam aage badhaya hai. Us vaqt jab kaam chalu kiya tha, tumhari umra kya hogi?

 

Jo tum kah rahe ho, danke ki chot par tab kahana jab tumhari santan ho. Jab tumhari santan ek kadam chalegi, usko bahut khushi hogi. Tab kya tum kahoge ki isme kaunsi badi bat hai? Mai to marethon daud chuka hun.

 

Koi bhi kisibhi umarme agar ek kadam bhi chale to uski sarahana karna sikho. Tum bade ho hi. Dusron ko chhota dikhake kya tum aaur bade ban jaoge?

 

Vidya vinayena shobhate, yah sahi hai ki ya fir

Vidya vinayena na shobhate?

 

Ek bat pakki than lo. Ma kabhi kharidi nahi ja sakti. aaur, agar bachheko sahi rasta na dikhaye to vaha maa nahi hoti. So mai to tumhe batati hi rahungi.

 

Remember

they also serve who only stand and wait.

 

abhi logon ne aage badhna shuru kiya hai. Jis disha me tum choti par ho. unki sarahana karna sikho. Na ki unko chot panhuchao. Isase tumhare vyaktimatvako char chand lag jayenge.

 

Tum kitnebhi naraj ho jao. Mai jitni tumhari sarahana karti hun, utnahi tumhe samzane ka haq rakhti hun.

 

ek bar fir spashta kardun. tumhara batana galat nahi hai. Bataneka tarika, dhang galat hai.

 

Akalpita

 

 

[Dr. Subba Reddy]

My dear Mr. Vivek,

 

We dont require any Apologies from you.

 

You are doing extremely well within your Limits.

 

Our aim and Goal is to see a developed Nation. Our paths may be different.  Let us work & dream for a Great Nation.

 

Your mails making most of the people frustrated and disappointed. Nothing we can learn or educate from your emails. Please Mr. Vivek, I beg you to post some positive mails and we definitely need your experience.   

 

Let us discuss the things, which will give inspiration, motivation and happiness to us.

 

 

35 years Back, Korea is the Poorest country in the world, now there is a complete change here. For Example, In my working place ( A public place), we have an Automatic Toilet, ( We dont need tissue or we dont need to use our hands for cleaning with water) consumes 5 to 7.5 Litre water for a single Use. Where our 30 Crore brothers and sisters of India using less than 5 litre per day for all purposes. 

 

Why we failed?

 

With best wishes and love...

 

Yours...

 

Subba Reddy..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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