TOPIC: How do we maintain/enhance our purity?

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Gopal Krishna

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May 13, 2007, 12:33:35 AM5/13/07
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Dear friends,

Vikas Ji has raised a profound question.  i m expressing my personal views on this below:

From: "Vikas Nagpal"


Respected friends/patriouts,
   I salute all members of BM.

   I had an important question or introspecting topic for all of us.

  As members of BM, how do we maintain/enhance our purity of mind?

Purity is our key strength.

Are we walking on some path e.g. Yoga, Self Enquiry, Vipassana
Meditation, etc., which will make our mind pure and strong?

yoga helps a lot in purifying the mind. when one experiences thought-free consciousness for long time (at least 12 seconds in meditation, at least 12*12 sec for deep meditation), one realises "What is this I  which  endlessly chatter in the mind: " I  have to do this.", "My  work  is not yet finished."  - this  "I" is nothing but ego.  That's why thought-free consciousness is said to be the highest state of purity (pure or 100% sattwa) : no harm if the "I" in us is harmless/sattwic "I" of "compassion, charity, love, selflessness". 

by grace of God, i have often experienced  deep meditation (>= 144 sec of thought-free consciousness at a stretch) many times and realise now that such experiences increase level of compassion and service spirit tremendously, they give deep joy and peace, make us fearless, make us understand that "thoughts come and go, but inner consciousness remains same, so inner consciousness is our real nature and not these thoughts", make us understand that Consciousness in everyone is same : i would even say that without prolonged experience of thought-free consciousness, no one can truly understand the meaning of "oneness of mankind" about which all enlightened sages have talked.

i have listed all 4 methods to experience thought-free consciousness or meditation in a file here: http://gopalkrishna.mission.googlepages.com/yoga.pdf

u may experiment with them and hopefully, develop a habit of doing  the practice for >= 30 min daily in sitting position and use the same in free-time like during bath, eating food, walking etc to make mind free from thoughts. if u r aware of any more techniques, please let me know and i will add them to the file.

directly experiencing thought-free consciousness is not possible for everyone (by Grace of God, I had a direct experience, but when i tried to share these techniques with others, many did not experience the state due to gross level of awareness) : so, using the tool of pranayama  and developing higher ideals of  forgiveness, broad-mindedness, non-attachment is  also necessary.  Swami Ramdev Ji teaches  a very effective combination of 6-7 pranayams: they r absolutely effective in removing physical  diseases and  removing gross tension (subtle tensions can be removed only through experience of thought-free consciousness: pranayam is supposed to deal only with gross tensions).

here is the vidoe file of Ramdev Ji :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4073502420928488341&q=ramdev+pranayam&hl=en

please see it: everyone should do 1 hr of yoga daily in the early morning : 5 min Sirshasana, 25 min pranayam, and 30 min meditation.

my interests in yoga goes beyond goal of peace: i aim for the same spiritual illumination (Self-Realisation) that Buddha has under Bodhi tree, but that needs extra-ordinary yoga-practice (and full celibacy) for a number of decades: after joining the Mission fulltime, i  will be able to manage time for such practices.

Kindly share views and advices.

My personal experience of Vipassana Meditation has been very good and
encouraging. There may be other spiritual paths also which help us in
our lives and mission.

thanks,

Gopal

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Gopal Krishna
B. Tech Computer Science, IIT Kanpur
Homepage: http://gopalkrishna.mission.googlepages.com

Milind Kotwal

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May 14, 2007, 12:08:33 AM5/14/07
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Dear Friends,
 
My frank views..
 
1. There is absolutely no doubt that Indian system of Atmadarshan or Nirvana is superior to any other philosophy or practice as it assures self experience of the true reality.
 
2. Eventhough contribution of Indian culture to humanity was tremendous in historic or prehistoric times, The western culture has contributed tremendously much more than Indian culture in recent times.

3. It is also true that western culture has been more successful in getting better standard of living for their citizens.
 
4. Recent developments and advances in governance, management and understanding of the world with different perspectives and methodologies are great gifts of western culture to the world and all of us totally dependant on that.
 
5. Our culture has miserably failed to comprehend the recent advances and adjust to the new reality, we are just being dragged by the brute force of developments, we have not been able to provide the direction to the developments. We are merely reacting to the developments meekly.
 
6. In my opinion this is due to our total confusion between "Aihik" - Of this World, "Adhyatmic" - Of Atmic world. This confusion can be noticed in teachings of many saints and scriptures. In zzeal to purify ourselves we have been prescribing practices to be followed by a "Sanyasin" to "Grihastha". This has been counterproductive for our society in the long run.
 
7. I request you to remove a total misconception that a reallized soul knows everything. As far as my experience goes there is nothing such as knowing everything. There are many instances when known and accepted reallized souls can be shown to have failed to reallize facts.
 
8. If Atmadarshan is your goal, pl go ahead and follow the path prescribed for it. If you want to go for Societal developments, be clear in your vision, strategy and process and follow that. But do not mix up both the paths.
 
9. Someone might give examples of some reallized souls like Raja Janak who was a Atmagyani and successfully run the affairs of Government. but he was more as an exception than rule.
 
10. This is not to dissuade anybody from the path of Atmagyan but to stress to not to mix societal development and Atmagyan.
 
Milind Kotwal

Mahesh Pareek

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May 22, 2007, 1:19:42 AM5/22/07
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Friends!
 
Following is my view on the topic:
 
From our history I remember that one of our leaders Madan Mohan Malviya was asked by someone that  "Sir is some bad idea (Maya), feeling comes to your mind at any moment of time" He replied that yes they do come at the gate of my mind but I keep myself so busy with my work that they donot find time to enter my mind and return back.
 
Mahesh
 
 

BhanuPrakash Singh

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May 22, 2007, 10:58:52 AM5/22/07
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Dear Mahesh and friends,
Besides moral education at the early age of the
children, enforcement of law uniformly to all will
ensure that bad conduct in the nipped in the bud.
Everybody needs some material wealth in the Kalyug and
it will be very academic to talk of Maya in that way.
Bhanu


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BhanuPrakash Singh

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May 22, 2007, 10:58:52 AM5/22/07
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Dear Mahesh and friends,
Besides moral education at the early age of the
children, enforcement of law uniformly to all will
ensure that bad conduct in the nipped in the bud.
Everybody needs some material wealth in the Kalyug and
it will be very academic to talk of Maya in that way.
Bhanu
--- Mahesh Pareek <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

BhanuPrakash Singh

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May 22, 2007, 10:58:52 AM5/22/07
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Dear Mahesh and friends,
Besides moral education at the early age of the
children, enforcement of law uniformly to all will
ensure that bad conduct in the nipped in the bud.
Everybody needs some material wealth in the Kalyug and
it will be very academic to talk of Maya in that way.
Bhanu
--- Mahesh Pareek <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikas Nagpal

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Jun 7, 2007, 2:58:22 AM6/7/07
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Respected Friends,
We, the youth of India, should take up some spiritual path
according to our liking and experience. This will increase our purity,
which is absolutely essential to stay inline on the true path of
serving nation.

I myself, am a Vipassana Meditator. Trying to improve myself and
doing away the self-centered-ness.

For children, I have an idea of Anapana Meditation, which is the
first step of Vipassana Meditation.

Kindly read the second article of below link
http://vipassanaeducationintegration.wordpress.com/

I am also mentioning an "excerpt" of the idea below
-----
The idea is essentially to encourage Vipassana Meditation to adults
and Anapana Meditation (first step of Vipassana) to children/students.

The technique of Vipassana is a simple, practical way to achieve real
peace of mind and to lead a happy, useful life.
Vipassana means "to see things as they really are"; it is a logical
process of mental purification through self-observation.

The technique of Anapana is a simple and practical way to achieve
mastery over the mind and lead a happy, wholesome life.
Anapana means observation of natural, normal respiration, as it comes
in and as it goes out.

To integrate Education with Vipassana, it is proposed to
1) Encourage Vipassana Meditation to College students (and to other
citizens too).
2) Encourage Anapana Meditation to School students and to any children
above 8 years age
--------

I request all to kindly comment on the idea. Any suggestions or
criticisms are most welcome.

For knowing about Vipassana Meditation, kindly visit
http://www.dhamma.org and http://www.vri.dhamma.org


Thanks and Jai Hind,
Vikas
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>>
May all beings be happy, be peaceful, be liberated!
http://www.dhamma.org
Bright Children/Students => Bright citizens and leaders => Bright India !!
http://o3.indiatimes.com/Vipassana_Education_Integration

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