What is BM's Official Stand on Reservation?

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Amit

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May 23, 2006, 1:22:28 PM5/23/06
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Dear friends,

The issue of reservation is taking us towards the undesired. We can see
a clear division of opinion on this issue and no proposal so far is
acceptable by both the sides.

BM has not come forward with any official stand on this issue so far
and members might be opposing or supporting the issue on individual
level.

It is high time BM comes forward with an amicable and acceptable
solution for this issue and makes it stand clear on this issue.

BM can act as a building bridge. BM can plunge in under its own banner
to resolve the difference and prevent the situation from further
deterioration. Once BM's stand is clear members can use the banner of
BM than coming together under any other Banner.

What is BM's official stand on the issue of reservation?

Jai Hind
Amit.

Abhijit K

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May 23, 2006, 3:00:00 PM5/23/06
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Dear Amit jee,

I can understand your concerns fully. People in BM and overall in the
country have various opinions on this issue. I also understand your
concern that BM should have an official stand on this issue. However:

My concern is how and who decides what is the official stand. In the
current structure and setup that BM has, I feel that some or other
sections of members will always have problems, with whatever and
whoever takes an official stand. We need to evolve
methods/practises/rules for deciding on such issues. I don't see a
short term solution to this in picture. I hope that the constitution
will take care of decision making on such issues also.

Regards,
Abhijit

Amit

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May 24, 2006, 7:51:58 AM5/24/06
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Dear Abhi,

I am aware of this fact and its really sad. Its an year now I joined
BM. Initially BM_Core was formed, one of its task was regarding the
constituion but later it was sacked as most of the members didnt
participate and for want of transparency. BM_Fulltime was its result.
It was felt that new members would bring new Ideas and it would be
helpful to BM. Unfortunately, very few such members are added to BM.
Looking at the functioning of BM_Management I dont think the issue of
transparancy is solved and with time, we can see that the active
members dont have consistency due to many reason, I am one of them.
Anyways most of the active members then tried for consensus and
respected the views of other members. They didnt take extreme veiws and
were flexible in their approach, I feel this is what is missing this
time.

Though I am not as active as before it does not mean my determination
has decresed anyway or I may not become active in future. BM's Ideology
is not an ideal but the need of the Nation. We have to see that BM's
Constitution takes care to uphold the unity and integrity of the nation
while protecting all interests of the Society. I agree with you that
the initiators of BM must have a greater say in drafting the
constitution. I dont want to see BM being hijacked. But once the
constitution is framed it should take its own course. The real task is
to check how the right members get in the organisational structure. It
is not the organisation or the constitution that will work, it will be
the people in position who will decide how it works.

I have a firm beleif that Majority is not always right. So in my opinon
such issues should not be decided by vote or discussion in any
organisation. Committee of Members with proven integrity should decide
on such issues considering all facets of the issue and all views and
concerns. Consensus must be the rule.

I know you are well aware of this issue but most importantly you have
the guts to accept and embrace the truth.

Jai Hind
Amit.

Abhijit K

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May 24, 2006, 11:53:05 AM5/24/06
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Dear Brother,

A small request, to you and all: Please include enough information in your signature for others to be able to distinguish. I am one supporter for elimination of casteism and casteist-surnames, but would please request to add some non-caste-indicating title and the name of your chpater to your signature for distinguishing. I guess I am talking to Amit K from Mumbai,  but please correct me if I am wrong.

Now, let me write on your views. Most of the organizations suffer from the problems that we are facing. It is for us to stay steadfast and face them and try our best to solve them.
I am very positive about the constitution making process and I hope that we all will get a chance to represent our views and give a better structure to the organization.  Please read ahead.

On 5/24/06, Amit <amit...@gmail.com > wrote:

Dear Abhi,

I am aware of this fact and its really sad. Its an year now I joined
BM. Initially BM_Core was formed, one of its task was regarding the
constituion but later it was sacked as most of the members didnt
participate and for want of transparency. BM_Fulltime was its result.
It was felt that new members would bring new Ideas and it would be
helpful to BM. Unfortunately, very few such members are added to BM.
Looking at the functioning of BM_Management I dont think the issue of
transparancy is solved and with time, we can see that the active
members dont have consistency due to many reason, I am one of them.
Anyways most of the active members then tried for consensus and
respected the views of other members. They didnt take extreme veiws and
were flexible in their approach, I feel this is what is missing this
time.


Mutual trust is the most important thing for us to work together. Occasionally there may be hiccups and differences may arose. It is a collective responsibility of all of us to work for mutual trust. I believe that BM needs more person to person, chapter to chapter interactions  - we need to know the other members personally and try to establish that mutual trust. Let us trust all the current functionaries of BM also, and I am sure they wiill also reciprocate positively.
 

Though I am not as active as before it does not mean my determination
has decresed anyway or I may not become active in future. BM's Ideology
is not an ideal but the need of the Nation. We have to see that BM's
Constitution takes care to uphold the unity and integrity of the nation
while protecting all interests of the Society. I agree with you that
the initiators of BM must have a greater say in drafting the
constitution. I dont want to see BM being hijacked. But once the
constitution is framed it should take its own course. The real task is
to check how the right members get in the organisational structure. It
is not the organisation or the constitution that will work, it will be
the people in position who will decide how it works.

Sure, agreed fully. After the constitution (which according to me should be a simple documeent and to be followed in spirit), that will govern all of us. In fact, I don't see the "initiators" of BM having a greater say this time. The drafting will be done by a drafting team (which is also partly democratic) on suggestions of the representatives and it will ultimately be approved by the representatives. The final decision is going to be taken democratically.
 

I have a firm beleif that Majority is not always right. So in my opinon
such issues should not be decided by vote or discussion in any
organisation. Committee of Members with proven integrity should decide
on such issues considering all facets of the issue and all views and
concerns. Consensus must be the rule.

Majority may not be right, but big emphasis on consensus may result in total inactivity. Having 100% consensus is near to impossible as the organization grows. Somewhere we have to take action and the only acceptable way to me looks going by majority. Sometimes you get what you want, sometimes you don't.
 

I know you are well aware of this issue but most importantly you have
the guts to accept and embrace the truth.

I believe everyone accepts the truth that we need a better structure, more transparency, and internal democratic structure and thats why we have a democratic constitution making process in place. I trust you and all and believe that we will all work towards a better India.

Regards,
Abhijit  K
BM_Mumbai.

Abhijit K

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