First connection to the Zychliner group

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suchard

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Feb 9, 2007, 9:15:06 AM2/9/07
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Hi Everybody,

Let me present myself. My name is Suzy Wrobel. I was born in Paris 50
years ago in Paris, France where I live. My father was born in Zychlin
and he is still alive. He is the son of Nussin Wrobel and Sara Werman
and they used to sell poultry in Zychlin. My father was deported in
Auschwitz. He participated to the long death march and was freed by
the Americans. He went to Austria where he met Freidl Kuperman from
Zwolen who was also deported in a labor camp in Czetochowa. They
married each other and decided to establish in France where my mother
had two aunts who emigrated here in 1929/30. I had the occasion to
visit Zychlin in 1967 and 1995.

ramz...@aol.com

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Feb 9, 2007, 11:08:55 AM2/9/07
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Bonjour Suzanne,
 
I am Kim Rosenberg Amzallag and I am married to a sephardic man from Morocco and I speak french.
 
My paternal grandfather Samuel ( shloimy/shlomo) Rosenberg was born in Zychlin. He and his father Yitzhak, and one other brother camed to the USA before 1920. Sam's mother my paternal great grand mother wen tto Palestine with he ryoungest son leib/aryeh and I am in CLOSE CONTACT with Yaffa his daughter and he r2 children. Anyone from Zychlin that went to Palestine stayed in their home and they formed the Zychliner society in Tel Aviv, the cemetary plots and the Zychliner House which I visited in 1990.
 
There was also a zychliner society in NYC also that dealt with burial grounds where they zychliners were buried.  and I went to queens and met a man Mr Mike Helner who had tons of Zychliner stuff but just before I contacted him he had thrown away a bunch of things since he was moving to florida. That was over 10 years ago.
 
I would be very interested to hear more about your visits to Zychlin. I live in NYC. The one brother of my grandfather that remained in Zychlin perished in the holocaust but the rest if the family left for Israel in the 20's and 30's
 
I have been added to the group and look forward to getting to know each of you and sharing information
 
Shabbat shalom!
 
Kim Rosenberg Amzallag
 
 
Please let me know if you get to NYC. BH I hope to be in Paris in July for a bat mitzvah.

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suzanne wrobel

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Feb 9, 2007, 11:59:29 AM2/9/07
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Bonjour Kim et bienvenue dans le groupe,
 
I'm sure we have had some mail exchange last year or something like that. Your name sounds familiar to me.
 
In July 1967, I was 11 years old and my parents and me made a tour of Poland with the attention to launch a research of one sister to my father. He thought she could have been living as during WWII she was hidden by peasants and he received a letter from her in Auschwitz. We never found any clue about her. We launched an appeal through the Polish radio with the help of Red Cross without any success.
 
So, we went to Zychlin where my father found first a man called Wipich (I don't guarantee the orthograph). This man knew my family very well. My father knew a story about a Zychliner who converted to catholicism in 1933 and asked whether this man survived the war. He was alive and we went to see him in his farm. We met his son and then this man who was around 82 years old at this time. Then began a strange show : my father was talking to him in Polish and the old man was responding to my father in Yiddish. He explained that he hided in the forest near the village while his wife for whom he converted him to be catholic), stayed in the farm. The Nazis learned about the conversion of this man and went to farm and asked the woman when did he change religion. Instead of answering 1933 in German, she told 1913. The Nazis left it up and went away. That's why this man survived the war. This conversation with my father took place in July '67, one month after the 6 days war, can you imagine our surprise when the old man told my father in yiddish : "we cannot say anymore Next Year in Jerusalem !". I must add one comment to this story : when this man was young, and just married the catholic girl, my grandfather used to mock him, telling him in Yiddish : Why did you marry the ugliest young lady in the town. This man used to answer him in Polish to leave it up. We also met a lady whose father was the landlord of the house where lived my grandparents.
 
In 1995, my father wanted to show Auschwitz and Zychlin to his 3 grandchildren, my brother's children. I joined the team and we went again to Zychlin. We met again the landlord's daughter who was a retired geography teacher. She was happy to meet us again. It was very moving as she found the children looking like one sister of my father and my father as a small boy. I was moved because we have not any photograph of my Wrobel family before WWII.
 
C'est tout pour aujourd'hui.
 
Shabat shalom.
 
Suzy

ramz...@aol.com

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Feb 9, 2007, 1:37:03 PM2/9/07
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suzanne,
 
Yes.I am sorry. I remembered someone in paris was from zychlin. Sorry I completely forgot your name.  I just read your incredible story and beg you to share it with the group.
 
incredible...
shabbat shalom.
 
 
kim
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