[Grok-dev] grok.install released

[lozinski]

I am very pleased to announce the release of grok.install. 

It makes it easy to install and start developing with grok 1.14.1 released Feb 15, 2016. 

https://github.com/clozinski/grok.install

Comments most appreciated.

Regards

Chris

[lozinski]

Another reader writes:

Hi,

Even there is huge community for python 2.7. I prefere to develop applications on python 3 which is the future. If I look at benefits of python 3 then there is no choice. 

At the moment I developing an application in python 3, with cherrypy and just plane html/css and javascript. 

I have tried zope with python3, but somewhere I could not 'link' paster to zope3. An other reason to choose for cherrypy is dat zope4 is based on zope2 with python2. 

In the long run it is not a feasible road to develop apps in python2.

 But any way, success

I totally agree with you. You are preaching to the choir. Not being in Python 3 is embarrassing. 

http://blogory.org/advantages-of-python3

And particularly if you want to do a messaging server, or web scraping the advantages of Python3.5  and asyncio are huge.  Jim Fulton is working on moving ZEO to Asyncio, so soon, I presume, we will be able to use ZODB as an Asyncio server. 

So why did I release in Python 2.7?  Because I could . I spent all of yesterday trying to figure out how to upgrade to Python 3.  

Python 3.5 does not install on FreeBSD.  I need to send in a bug report.  Somewhere on the internet there is a guy who is kind enough to fix those problems.  

Python 3.4 has some security violation.  

Python 3.3 worked when I first installed grok. Now it does not work.  Presumably I have a wrong version of buildout or setup tools.  

Python 3.2 is not distributed on FreeBSD.

So what do I do about Python 3 not working?  I have tried everything I could short of debugging those utilities.  

The next step is to fire up the debugger while running bootstrap, and figure out what the problem is.  I was reluctant to be debugging such utilities, but it is the only way.  Nothing as powerful as persistence. 

So why bother?  I love grok, I think it is brilliant, but the market is node.js.  Or Pyramid.  Am I stupid?  I hope not! I am not going to be competing in the tools market.  I want to compete in the mudh larger end-user market.  I want to open source blogory, and have hundreds of blogories out there indexing the web manually.  

In the meantime if someone figures out how to bootstrap grok.install on python 3 please send me a pull request, or just email me quick instructions and I will be delighted to upgrade the repository.  There are those for whom it is a very simple thing to fix.  

And I have a very nice ZMI here to release as well.  The plan is to replace grokui.admin, the applications page with zopache.zmi.  The plone guys will love it.  If you login to blogory.org, you can play with it.  Let me know if you want permission to add content on some branch of blogory.

Regards

Chris

 

[Jan-Wijbrand Kolman]

Hi,

Cool to see work on grok-related stuff!

The first thing I thought of was the package name: it moves "install"
under the namespace "grok" where the grok package wasn't really
intendeed to be a namespace as such. I'm not exactly sure about the
implications of that.

regards, jw

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