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======= 2009-08-13 21:31 "Wang Tun(王暾_2007级) " 您在来信中写到:ISSUE 208 (Wang Tun) Comments Welcome =======

额,开头把话都说完了,结尾没的写了
最近正在考虑如何是开头和结尾写的层次不一样,结尾更深化

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ISSUE208 - "The way people look, dress, and act reveals their attitudes and interests. You can tell much about a society's ideas and values by observing the appearance and behavior of its people."

人们的眼神、穿着和动作都揭示了他们的态度和兴趣。你可以透过观察一个社会中人们的外貌和举止来认识该社会的理念和价值观。

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The appearance and behavior are the external aspect of one society while the ideas and values are the internal one, as the way a person looks, dresses and acts to his interests and attitudes. Usually, they consist with each other, but not always.

In most of the cases, the intrinsic and extrinsic are united, and mutually reflect each other, because they are the two different aspects of one essential object. The extrinsic is the indicator of the intrinsic while the intrinsic is the very source where the extrinsic is originated from.

Firstly, in the term of individuals, it is no denying that the way people look, dress and act give away information about his personality or believes. A teenager in white is more likely to be a sunny boy while a withdrawn man is always dressed in black. At a party, an introvert maybe likes sitting quietly while in contrast, an extrovert may prefer to talk around loudly. Whether intended or not, one tell something about himself without any word.

Secondly, in the term of society, the situation is almost the same. You can certainly tell the ideas and values of a society, i.e. ideology, by observing the commonness of the appearance and behavior of its people. It's no different from the way you tell the interests and attitudes of a person from his dressing style and outlook, except your object of observation has expanding from a single person to a whole society. Moreover, apart from that, you can gain knowledge of the ideology of a society from some other ways, say, art. Art is certainly an important mirror of the people's life and belief of a society. For example, the paintings and frescoes of the Early Medieval are always Christian themed. Their destination is to honor the deities and propel humans into afterlife. However, from the works of the great artists during the Renaissance, be it Mona Lisa from Leonardo Da Vince, or The Statue of David given by Michelangelo, we can sense a strong passion and honorable respect to humanity. Thus, we can see that common believes wildly hold by its people, the ideology of one society will find express in various ways, whether simply in the way its people look and dress, or in a cultivated manner like art. That's a global law of our universe; just like that you can expect the very high temperature inside the core of the sun from the terrible flames on the surface of it.

However, in some cases, there does exist the situation where the extreme heat is encompassed by freezing ice, instead of flame. I mean, sometimes, the extrinsic does contradict with the intrinsic.

Again in the term of individuals, you will find yourself wrong if you depend too much on the appearance and outlook of a person when judging his or her personality and characteristics. The information might be misleading. For instance, a restrained person likes to wear sunglasses to hide himself from others. But you can never expect every guy wearing a sunglass to be restrained, for often some of the celebrities wear sunglasses just to avoid being figured by the paparazzi. What's more, when being engaged in a work, people always dress to meet the demand of their profession. That gives no information of one's personality. In addition, growing from adolescents to adults, people sometimes dress themselves to create false images for a certain purpose. Newspaper reports a new fashion recently that some workers like to dress like beggars, to earn a second wage after work.

While in the term of a society, it is more reliable. Mass reduces randomness. A single person is easy to mislead others by dressing of displacement, while a group of people can't do the same thing easily. So, judging the ideology of a society from people's behavior and appearance, you can be more assured, than judging the personality of a person by his outlook.

Therefore, to sum up, the extrinsic is the indicator of the intrinsic, for the former gives away information of the latter, to some extent. Different levels of consistency identify judges of different things.

 

                        Sincerely yours,
                        Wang Tun
                        ch4w...@gmail.com
                        August 13, 2009

 



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208. "The way people look, dress, and act reveals their attitudes and interests. You can tell much about a society's ideas and values by observing the appearance and behavior of its people."

人们的眼神、穿着和动作都揭示了他们的态度和兴趣。你可以透过观察一个社会中人们的外貌和举止来认识该社会的理念和价值观。
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//People's  appearance and behavior are the external aspect of one society  while the ideas and values are the internal one. Usually, the two seprated  aspects of a society consistent with each other, but not always.

//  in most cases, the  intrinsic and extrinsic are united and they mutually refelct each other
//they are two aspects of the essential nature of one object.
//the outter is the indicator of the inner while the inner is the very source where the outter are from.
1、内在与外在在一定程度上统一,因为他们是同一事物的不同方面
内在与外在的统一,成于内而流于外,有着必然联系
潜意识的不自觉流露
1.1个人
//in the term of individuals
阳光的人喜欢穿白色的衣服
//sunny boy
内敛的人喜欢穿黑色的衣服
//a withdrawn person
成熟的人喜欢戴墨镜
外向的人喜欢交谈,而内向的人喜欢静坐
//extroverts, introverts
举例:in  the film of Legend of 1900
why  we have mind readers, they are nothing but genious who are good at reading something internal from the external apperance.
1.2社会
//in  the term of society
//society  is collection of people
//you can certainly gain knowledge of the ideas and values of a society by observing the commonness of the appearance and behaviour its  people
 It's no different from the way you tell one's attitude and interests from the way  he look, dress and act, except that your object of observation expand from a single person to the whole society.
//Beside that
外貌和举止可以,但不限于此,例如艺术
(文艺复兴时期的绘画,建筑反应对 上帝的信仰和救赎)
(中世纪的是城堡)
//The paintings  and frescoes of the Early Medieval were usually  Christian themed. And their destination is  to honor the deities and propel humans into the afterlife.
// While the works of the great artists during the Renaissance, be it Mona Lisa from Leonardo Da Vince or Daivd given by Michelangelo, we can obviously sense the strong passion about and honorable respect to humanity.
//The attitudes and interestes of all the people on a social scale, i.e. ideology, will more or less find express in  various forms, whether simply by the common look and dress of its people, or a cultivated form of art, painting or architecture                                                                             
宇宙万物的必然真理,太阳的温度与表面的火热

//But  there are times when extreme heat is encompassed  by freezing ice instead of flame
//in some cases,  there do exist some situation that the intrinsic contrasts with the extrinsic
2、然而有时也不是,共性中有含有个性
在符合本质//essectial的基础上会有另外的一面
2.1个人
//again in the term of individuals
比如有时候名人因为躲开媒体而戴墨镜
//paparazzi狗仔队
穿衣时为了符合职业需要
随着人们长大可以刻意控制 自己的行为,为了某种目的,例如制造假象
//creat false image,获得好感,// cater to
恋爱时期的boy,refection of his girlfriend's  attidudes and interestes,not his
2.2社会一般不会,难以伪装,稳定反映社会倾向
mass will reduce randomness
reflect the inclination of a society more steadily
结论:
//the extrinsic is the indicator of the  intrinsic
//sign indication give out, to some extent
//
more assured, on a social scale, while as  for individuals  ,it depends

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//imposed immanent
//external internal
//inner outer/outward
//inside outside
//intrinsic and extrinsic

//universality and individuality
//conformity and individuality
//personality and commonality
//unique and common
//general and specific
个性与共性的统一
//unification of individual and commonness


// Stephen Yablo provides perhaps the most succinct version: “You know what an intrinsic property is: it's a property that a thing has (or lacks) regardless of what may be going on outside of itself.” (1999: 479)






Sincerely yours,
Wang Tun
ch4w...@gmail.com

2009-08-14

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