杭州科技开发区
Zhenwei Chu
有谁知道杭州科技开发区的联系方式或联系人？
我知道杭州正在重点建设软件服务外包，我也有这方面的项目。有没有浙江侨办的在这group里能帮我牵线搭桥的？或那位同学已知道联系方式的？
谢谢
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Angela Hu
Frank Hao
we will make a group trip to Nanjing 0n july15.
best,
Frank
USITA
beijing
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:25:15 -0700
From: zhenw...@yahoo.com
Subject: 杭州科技开发区
To: Zhangjia...@googlegroups.com
SI Weijian
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Frank Hao
谢谢你的热情介绍.
上海和北京的创业门坎太高,没有象江苏无锡那样的真正到位 的资金支持,经营成本又高,所以,对于大多数没有带资金回国的海外留学人员来说,到上海和北京创业是不现实的选项.
前不久,中央领导李源潮书记到北京市督导海外人才引进工作.在中央的压力下,北京市装么做样地出台一个新的人才引进政策,说可以资助到2百万(实际上很难拿),但要求海外人才要提供注册资本200万.---真是神经病! 北京中关村科技园每年办两次海外人才交流活动,"天桥的把戏--光吆呵,不来真的". 近年来就没听说谁到中关村创了业.
我在美国20 年,也思考过美国科技创新领先全球的原因.我认为,在美国办企业没有"注册资本"的要求,创业门槛低是其中一个重要因素.如在美国加州来说,任何人只要自己打印一个只有1--2 页,几条的公司章程,写明公司的名字,通信地址/联系人和股份数字等几个信息,就可以到州政府的登记处办理有限公司登记.登记处收件和登记费支票,并核对名字不与别公司重复以后,2--3 天以后就把执照寄来. 事情就是这么简单.
如果上海市能象美国那样取消"注册资本" 这个工商部门死抱着不放的怪胎,降低创业门槛;能象无锡那样提供实际的资金和其他政策优惠(如三年免费办公用房与领军人才住房),我相信,会有洪流般 的海外人才来沪创业. 无锡上半年就收到800 多个海外人才来锡创业项目申请,就是例证.
感谢市侨办多年在侨务方面做的工作和对海外人员的热请招待.
请指正，并祝工作顺利,
Frank Hao
USITA
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:15:10 +0800
From: wjs...@gmail.com
To: Zhangjia...@googlegroups.com; Zhangjia...@googlegroups.com
CC: sqb...@yahoo.com.cn
Subject: Re: 杭州科技开发区
Cosmo Z
Cosmo Z
Clive Liu
Are you going to Nanjing after the Suzhou's event 7/13? May be we can
visit Hanzhou on 7/13 and then go to Nanjing on 7/15. Please let me
know when we meet in Suzhou.
Regard,
Clive
2009/7/8 Frank Hao <usita...@hotmail.com>:
Cosmo Z
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Hong Xue
Clive,
Glad to read your email.
Was very busy ... Preparing for this trip.
Seems like my bandwidth was overflowed during past few days.
How is shanghai.
See you soon.
On 2009-7-8, at 20:05, Clive Liu <dr.cli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Frank,
Are you going to Nanjing after the Suzhou's event 7/13? May be we can
visit Hanzhou on 7/13 and then go to Nanjing on 7/15. Please let me
know when we meet in Suzhou.
Regard,
Clive
2009/7/8 Frank Hao <usita...@hotmail.com>:
nanjing is better than hangzhou for to develop outsourcing software R/D.
we will make a group trip to Nanjing 0n july15.
best,
Frank
USITA
beijing
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:25:15 -0700
From: zhenw...@yahoo.com
Subject: 杭州科技开发区
To: Zhangjia...@googlegroups.com
Angela Hu
I put a few of topics in this email. For easier reading, I am using bullet points to separate each topic.
A Nation-wide Organization
First of all, my SINCERE thankfulness to司主任 & the organizers of this event. With this group discussion set up, we don’t feel left alone after visiting. After all to most people final decisions need lots of info/helps than the 3-day classes/trips.
Initially I thought most people in this group will be ended up at those three cities. But based on the discussion, it seems we have much more wide city varieties. Thus I believe there is a need to expand this group to the nation and to benefit all 回国创业的留学同胞, not just to our class and to those who will settle in Shanghai, Zhenjiang, and Huzhou.
司主任,
Can you suggest this to related governmental departments such as 侨办 (well, Shanghai侨办 could be a leader or set up a leading example). After all, 回国创业 will benefit China as a whole and China’s strength will be in return benefit all cities in China.
And to those who are members or connected to overseas students organizations,
When you get a chance, would you please suggest them set up/connect this group to their organization? I do believe there are lots of people who already set up their operations in China could contribute to the discussion and also lots of people who are considering start their businesses in China would need helps.
I totally understand this nation-wide organization would take some time and many efforts and I may not personally get any benefit. But it, if deemed as necessary, needs to start somewhere.
杭州科技开发区
I thought there were not any people in this group interested in Hangzhou since it was not part of the program. I am glad to know there are and please feel free to contact me should I can be any of help. Attached is a file listed all HZ 科技开发区. The one, based on my investigation, I would recommend you to visit is杭州高新区留学人员创业园.
I personally rank SH or cities in Jiangshu does a better job than HZ in providing service & support to 回国创业的留学同胞. I came to HZ as it was said to build “China’s ecommerce capital”. However the related policies/incentives are still far in place. I also went to a similar event as our classes run by Zhejiang government while in NYC. You heard all warm welcome but when you get here and face real questions, you are experiencing the real environment that you will do business in. And that’s why I rank so highly of司主任’s following up on our group.
However I encourage you to visit Hangzhou to make your final decisions. After all it’s not easy to move your business locations, especially when you have many employees. I am in the process to speak with some government people/departments in HZ directly mid-late of July as I am doing lots of homework. If you’re planning to visit Hangzhou, it won’t be a bad idea if we form a group (small or big, better than an individual) to meet those governments. Shoot me an email at ange...@gmail.com
My Personal Entrepreneurial Experiences in China and US
I agree with Frank Hao & 周文豪 that US is a much easier place to start a business than China.
1. Doing business in China have many more unreasonable and unnecessary hassles (from government) than that in US. I ran a mid-sized private-owned factory back from 1995-2000 in China and experienced all kinds of unreasonable regulations and obstacles from government. I had to spend a great deal of energy and time to deal with those unnecessary but have-to issues. I set up two companies in New York (one in 2003 and one in 2005) and spent minimum time to deal with bank, tax, fnce dept, and etc. And that enabled me to spend all my time and energies in promoting my business.
2. US encourages and thinks highly of entrepreneurship and the government provides actual helps to SME (I used to work for SBA (Small Business Administration)). China has none or minimum support and experience in helping SME. I believe the government has seen this and is working on this to improve it.
However don’t get me wrong that I don’t have faith in China. Instead we are all proud of China’s development and believe in its promising future. We raised these issues simply as suggestion and wish China get better and improve faster.
Cheers,
Angela Hu
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