Re: Email notification zfs-fuse

[sgheeren]

Ok, stenographic answer for speed:

On 12-03-12 11:17, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
> I think the repo you created is awesome and you should use it.
> Whatever you prefer.
I'd be fine if you rolled up the original git repo, and we'll keep on
using that on github.com:zfs-fuse/zfs-fuse.git

The bug tracker could be exported (to XML)? I'd be happy if you did.
I'll see about uploading it to Github if needed

Accounts: I could see the whole operation being moved to github.
Otherwise, just create new accounts and email the holders?

Cheers,
Seth

[Manuel Amador]

I will export the bug tracker to XML and send it to you.

I need you to give me an email address for the webmaster at zfs-fuse that you
know for sure will receive emails from the website (Both contact form and
administrivia). My server is clearly not the mail exchanger, so you need to
provision that (sehe.nl seems to be the exchanger).

I don't know what you mean by "rolling up the original git repo". I would
rather just point people to the git repo currently in github/zfs-fuse/zfs-
fuse. I will just summarily ignore the gitweb as I assume it is obsolete.
This means migrating the download links away from gitweb. I will do that, so
long as the official git repo has the appropriate tags. I trust you will give
me the correct tags for 0.6.9 and 0.7.0 that will correspond to the gitweb
tags.

Accounts: I need you and the others to register with the new web site so you
can help maintain the page and add more info. The page is turning into a ZFS
community type of thing, integrating other ZFS-related projects beyond ZFS-
FUSE, to increase the relevance of ZFS in these days.

I was frankly hoping for more detailed answers to the issues I raised. It's
hard to run a project Web site when the people behind the code are AWOL.

--
Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)
http://rudd-o.com/

[sgheeren]

Just to confirm:

The ruddo.com Zfs-fuse site has since been moved to /dev/null?

Since, in that case I might as well stop paying for the domain
registration :)

Cheers,
Seth

[Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)]

It appears that the HTTP server running it is dead.

I have a copy of the Web site that I can give you, but otherwise the
site is dead.

[Emmanuel Anne]

And I can host a copy if someone needs it, but I wouldn't pay a dns domain for it, it would just be a sub domain.

2014/1/18 Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) <rud...@rudd-o.com>

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[Saulius Krasuckas]

On Sunday, July 22, 2012 at 12:57:37 PM UTC+3 sgheeren wrote:

On 12-03-12 11:17, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: 

> I think the repo you created is awesome and you should use it.
> Whatever you prefer.
I'd be fine if you rolled up the original git repo, and we'll keep on
using that on github.com:zfs-fuse/zfs-fuse.git

Hello folks,

I am in search of the owner of this repository (https://github.com/zfs-fuse/zfs-fuse) or the whole organization (https://github.com/zfs-fuse) on GitHub.

This is why: https://github.com/zfs-fuse/zfs-fuse/issues/2#issuecomment-1221447442

Since Manuel confirmed on GitHub it's not him, I wonder if it's you, Seth?

S.

[sehe]

As I noted on Github, I donot know who has access to github:zfs-fuse/zfs-fuse.

However, the start of this thread gave me existential doubts... It suggests I might have been the one creating it (I had completely forgotten about that). Likely we lost access and recovery might not be possible due to the domain having lapsed.

I had the domain registered for ~5 years (and let it lapse after the post in 2014 above). As such I maintained the DNS records. I also ran an SMTP server routing email aliases to personal mailboxes.

A quick forensic search of ancient mail archives shows me:

The central git instance was hosted on CNAME git.zfs-fuse.net ---> git.rudd-o.com (from 23 Nov 2009). The main website was also hosted there (possibly a HTTP redirect to http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/zfs) - I remember there being a quite involved site based on Plone/Zope.

The following email aliases existed:

 - rud...@zfs-fuse.net

 - se...@zfs-fuse.net

 - emma...@zfs-fuse.net

 - te...@zfs-fuse.net

It looks like the `zfs-fuse` user at github might have been created with one of those.

As such, that account will not be recoverable (since password reset uses email). Regardless, https://github.com/password_reset for all of the above aliases - and some more like git@, github@, zfs@ zfs-fuse@ - results in "That address is either invalid, ...". 

I do still seem to have working SSH keys to the repo, but that doesn't allow administrative actions.

Let me check ancient ssh configs for clues... None found

In fact, my entire email archives (from 2007) do not contain a single message mentioning both "github" AND (zfs OR zfs-fuse).

All I can see in the group archive is that the decision to go to github happened somewhere in Dec 2011 https://groups.google.com/g/zfs-fuse/c/uSDFyBkbyGw/m/abMTW0-fohQJ, in case it helps someone else scour for old email/configs.

In short, I have no hard evidence who created the repository, using what email address. The above emails are just likely candidates.

I'm not sure how to proceed, but I will try to contact Github support for assistance.

[sehe]

I've followed up on the github ticket for lack of any response:

> Is there anything we can do? This has gone 3 weeks.

> Perhaps a simpler solution is that we can have the inaccessible zfs-fuse account nuked for inactivity, and let the new owner (whether it be ZfsOnLinux or a separate > project) create it again?

[sehe]

And followed up again since 3 more weeks have passed. I'm beginning to think GitHub is not going to respond to my ticket at all.

Perhaps the better course of action is for candidate organisation that wants to take over the zfs-fuse account to file their own ticket as an organization?

Feel free to refer to this thread and my ticket (Ticket 3628836)

[Saulius Krasuckas]

2025-09-10, Wed, 16:04 sehe <sghe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And followed up again since 3 more weeks have passed. I'm beginning to think GitHub is not going to respond to my ticket at all.
>
> Perhaps the better course of action is for candidate organisation that wants to take over the zfs-fuse account to file their own ticket as an organization?
>
> Feel free to refer to this thread and my ticket (Ticket 3628836)

Thanks for the historical information and your efforts, Seth.

Looks like it has only two contribution activity events on the GH profile:
* Joined GitHub
* Created their first repository [zfs-fuse]

... both happening on March 12, 2012. Might it help do some
correlation with the mailing list traffic, if any.

Then another thought: was there a chat happening on some IRC channel by chance?

S.

[sehe]

@Saulius I checked and double checked.

I'm currently in contact with Github support. They're of the stance that they will never be able to transfer ownership. I asked them to unlist the zfs-fuse repository instead, so we don't keep the problem with people finding the old repo, worse, the defunct website that contains spam/porn now.

Cheers,

Seth

[sehe]

And now it is officially hidden as worded by github support:

> That being said, I can confirm that the zfs-fuse account has been hidden and is now only visible to GitHub staff.

That means we have *solved* the problem of sending people to the old url now hosting scam/spam (zfs-fuse.net).

We have also *solved* the issue of confusing people with out-dated zfs-fuse repository claiming to be the official home for it.

I have put an exact mirror of the old repo up under my account for archival purposes: https://github.com/sehe/zfs-fuse (my own personal repo with dev/test branches has been moved away to https://github.com/sehe/zfs-fuse-devbranches)

I hope this satisfies most, if not all, of the concerns,

Seth

[Gordan Bobic]

For what it's worth, I think Fedora have been shipping my version for
quite some time. 20 Fedora releases or so.
If anyone has some important patches in their fork they want to point
me at, I'd be happy to take a look at cherry-picking them on a
case-by-case basis. My maintenance was mostly focused on getting pool
version 28 support and getting it working as a root file system, and
my motivation was having working and stable ZFS on 32-bit machines
such as ARMv5 / ARMv6 / ARMv7.

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