Christmas is officially here
Gillian Oxley
the road with their Santa sleigh and the snowman. A bit sad for me
really, rather than taking the girls out to see it, the girls went
and got the neighbours young kids to watch it with them. Never mind.
Gill
Karen Mossman
they collect from door to door with carols playing loudly. We usually
stand on the step and watch the decorated milk float all the time
freezing to death. Last year they never came and I was sorry for
that. I hope they do this year, though!
...Karen
David Jackson
from Karen Mossman <kj.mo...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The Round Table comes round here too.
(aol)
Me too!
(/aol)
. . . used to be a big farm trailer with grotto made of hardboard,
with fairy lights, floodlights on the back of the polished tractor
making everything like daylight.
They came round on Sunday night - but this year it was a much smaller
trailer behind somebody's car, and the carols were quieter. Shame
really! They said that it was hard to get the big trailer up some of
the roads because of the parked cars. The Round Table do a great job
for the local charities round here, something which is not always appreciated.
--
Dave
Frodsham
Anne Baxter
from Gillian Oxley <gi...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
In the same boat here Gill. Tho here it is the Lions with a Santa in
a transit :-) The primary school Christmas play is on next week, and
I have no-one to watch in it! I heard tonight tho that the kids were
"only on" page 6 out of 13 pages of script and 5 days left to
rehearse. Hope the prompter is up to speed!
The adult Christmas show is getting there tho, at least the backdrops are :-)
Anne
Off to wash off the green paint
Debbie Panks
from Karen Mossman <kj.mo...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The Round Table comes round here too.
Its the Lions club here.
We have a can adapted with Reindeer at the front and santa on the back.
It usually comes around the streets, collecting money.
....Debs......
Rose Conway
from Gillian Oxley <gi...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The round table have just been down
> the road with their Santa sleigh and the snowman.
We used to get the Salvation Army Band when I lived in Southampton.
They would gather under a street light and play carols, they would
even do requests.
Rose
David Wynne-Griffiths
from Rose Conway <rose....@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> > The round table have just been down
> > the road with their Santa sleigh and the snowman.
> We used to get the Salvation Army Band when I lived in Southampton.
> They would gather under a street light and play carols, they would
> even do requests.
What is the general opinion on Christmas? Is it a occasion almost
entirely taken over by commercial interests? A holiday with only the
most tenuous connection to Christianity? An occasion when we eat and
drink to excess and subsequent regret? Children love Christmas and
the best aspect of it is to see their enjoyment. It is a shame that
even that has been spoilt by the expectations raised by
advertisements which it is impossible for many parents to fulfil. I
gather it is also a period of very great stress, and that many
divorces start as a result of rows at Christmas. Is a four day
holiday as this year too long?
--
~~~~~~~~~~
David W-G
~~~~~~~~~~
David Jackson
from David Wynne-Griffiths <dav...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> What is the general opinion on Christmas?
Why! David!
Surely _you_ don't celebrate the birth of Christ?
--
Dave
Frodsham
Debbie Panks
from Anne Baxter <anne....@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The primary school Christmas play is on next week, and
> I have no-one to watch in it!
Rebeccas was Yesterday and today but she was/is very poorly so
she missed both. It is also the school disco tonight and she will
miss that too. It is all very sad as we were both looking forward
to it.
.....Debs....
Helen Deborah Vecht
from David Wynne-Griffiths <dav...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> What is the general opinion on Christmas? Is it a occasion almost
> entirely taken over by commercial interests?
I speak for nobody but myself. My view of Christmas is that it is a
celebration of gross tasteless tack washed down with flavour-free
turkey, cranberry jam, morbid gluttony and far too much ethanol.
> A holiday with only the
> most tenuous connection to Christianity? An occasion when we eat and
> drink to excess and subsequent regret?
To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
called the 'office party'.
> Children love Christmas and
> the best aspect of it is to see their enjoyment. It is a shame that
> even that has been spoilt by the expectations raised by
> advertisements which it is impossible for many parents to fulfil.
This is mainly because appreciation of the simple things in life is
grossly undervalued in today's world.
> I gather it is also a period of very great stress, and that many
> divorces start as a result of rows at Christmas.
As much as anything, Christmas is often the first time in ages that
families are together without the distractions of work and the
outside world. It is not surprising that many faults and old scores
become apparent.
The stress of housing too many people in too small a space is
heightened by a lack of daylight and things to do outside the home.
Self-restraint disappears fairly fast when the booze starts flowing
so quarrels result.
> Is a four day holiday as this year too long?
Easter is always 4 days anyway. The absence of routine services in
the NHS over these holidays is a cause for concern for both doctors
and patients.
I will be working on Christmas Day and celebrating a year with Zetnet
on 24/12/1998
Helen
David Wynne-Griffiths
from David Jackson <dija...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Surely _you_ don't celebrate the birth of Christ?
I certainly don't, but Christmas is a public holiday regardless of
religion or lack of it, and there was a festival at that time long
before Christianity. I don't think the birth of Jesus has much to do
with it any longer, and anyway I understand he was born in September
AD 6 or 7!
Aonghas P MacKenzie
from Helen Deborah Vecht <helen...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
Bah! Humbug!
> Helen
(Translated and abridged by APM)
Ag@whd
<helen...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote these words:
>The message <199812091...@zetnet.co.uk>
> from David Wynne-Griffiths <dav...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> What is the general opinion on Christmas? Is it a occasion almost
>> entirely taken over by commercial interests?
>
>To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
>up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
>called the 'office party'.
Can I come to your's please? ;->
>As much as anything, Christmas is often the first time in ages that
>families are together without the distractions of work and the
>outside world. It is not surprising that many faults and old scores
>become apparent.
Yeah, family is the worst bit I find too.
Putting up with people you don't like etc ...
>I will be working on Christmas Day and celebrating a year with Zetnet
>on 24/12/1998
Double time I hope? ;->
I loved spending Xmas on the ward with my Mum in those days.
Adrian
WWW WWW Adrian Gothard
WWW ww WWW White Horse Design
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---
Designers of video capture/filter/processing systems for aircraft
Helen Deborah Vecht
from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
> >I will be working on Christmas Day and celebrating a year with Zetnet
> >on 24/12/1998
> Double time I hope? ;->
No. Doctors _don't_ get paid any extra for this sort of thing. I'll
get a day off in lieu.
Zetnet are not offering me a free year's subs as a gift either.
The good news is I have renewed my membership.
The bad news is you'll have me on your newsgroups....
Are the Zetgods going to put the little Christmas tree GIFs on the
Zetnet home page?
At least a year with Z *is* something to celebrate...
Helen
--
Helen D. Vecht
helen...@zetnet.co.uk
Salisbury, Wiltshire,
Great Britain
Shetland Knitwear Associates
from Helen Deborah Vecht <helen...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
> up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
> called the 'office party'.
Sussed :-( Yes folks, it will be the fishnets again if the Cap'n
manages to get home.......
--
Lulu
David Jackson
from David Wynne-Griffiths <dav...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> I don't think the birth of Jesus has much to do
> with it any longer,
As far as most people are concerned you are probably right, but for
some the Christian Festival still holds its place as the most
important event of this time of the year. The Parish Church here
will be packed to capacity (with many standing in the vestry), as
usual, for the Midnight Communion, while a more determined group will
arrive just before 8 am on Christmas morning to gain the benefits of
a short period of peace, quiet and tranquility before the day really warms up.
and anyway I understand he was born in September
> AD 6 or 7!
Ah! I thought the planetary conjunctions indicated 4 BC as the likely year.
I suppose it depends which astronomy authors you read . . .
--
Dave
Frodsham
David Wynne-Griffiths
from David Jackson <dija...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Ah! I thought the planetary conjunctions indicated 4 BC as the likely year.
> I suppose it depends which astronomy authors you read . . .
According to Matthew, Jesus was born near the end of the reign of
Herod the Great, thus before 4 BC. In Luke, chapter 2, verses 1 to 2,
Jesus is said to have been born at the time of a census when
Quirinius was governor of Syria. Such a census did occur, but in AD
6-7. Because this was after Herod's death and not in agreement with a
possible date of Jesus' baptism, this late date is unlikely. There
may have been an earlier census under another governor; an
inscription in the Lateran Museum records an unnamed governor who
twice ruled Syria, and the suggestion has been made that this was,
indeed, Quirinius and that in an earlier time a reported census
according to Roman calculation might have been carried out c. 8 BC,
one of a series of such. With such speculation and the combined
evidence of Matthew and Luke, an approximate year of birth might be 7-6 BC.
Peter Ellis
from Helen Deborah Vecht <helen...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
> up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
> called the 'office party'.
We have ours next week. I hadn't realised there was so much to look
forward to. :-)
Peter
(Ex Kensington Round Table - currently Kensington Rotary)
Peter Ellis
from David DCLXVI/M <DA...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> > To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
> > up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
> > called the 'office party'.
> Which always occurs before Xmas - as do all the "Xmas dinners". How
> many work/society Xmas dinners are taken during Xmas - i.e. between
> Xmas Day and Epiphany? I don't suppose the men are any better.
Must get out the gold medallion and the Hawaiian (sp?) beach shirt, I can see.
Adam Thorn
from Aonghas P MacKenzie <an.b...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Bah! Humbug!
> > Helen
> (Translated and abridged by APM)
Hah! You old cynic, you.. <bg>
--
Adam
adamthorn (at) zetnet.co.uk
Adam Thorn
from David Jackson <dija...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Ah! I thought the planetary conjunctions indicated 4 BC as the likely year.
> I suppose it depends which astronomy authors you read . . .
I'd always been told around 6 or 7 BC..
Ag@whd
<shetland...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote these words:
>The message <199812092...@zetnet.co.uk>
> from Helen Deborah Vecht <helen...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
>> up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
>> called the 'office party'.
>
>Sussed :-( Yes folks, it will be the fishnets again if the Cap'n
>manages to get home.......
Or starkers if he does not (with invited guests?) :-)
(Well mebbe one guest?) ;->
Ag@whd
wrote these words:
>The message <199812092...@zetnet.co.uk>
> from Helen Deborah Vecht <helen...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
>> up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
>> called the 'office party'.
>
>We have ours next week. I hadn't realised there was so much to look
>forward to. :-)
>
>Peter
>(Ex Kensington Round Table - currently Kensington Rotary)
Mine's on saturday.
Was amazed to be invited actually.
(I am not a permanent employee - mentioned it to the client MD today, he
said "we're generous" - this after finding that they hadn't paid four
weeks invoices from September! So a nice Xmas pressie by the end of this
week, hee hee!)
John Greetham
> > Surely _you_ don't celebrate the birth of Christ?
> I certainly don't, but Christmas is a public holiday regardless of
> religion or lack of it, and there was a festival at that time long
> before Christianity. I don't think the birth of Jesus has much to do
> with it any longer, and anyway I understand he was born in September
> AD 6 or 7!
> --
Dionysius Exiguus got it wrong the other way David! it is most likely
to be 4 or 5 BC - just within the reign of Herod the Great who died
at Jericho in March/April 4BC.
JG
Anne Jackson
> up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
> called the 'office party'.
Oh well, if you *insist*! 8-))
Anne
Shetland Knitwear Associates
from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:40:57 GMT, Shetland Knitwear Associates
> <shetland...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote these words:
> >Sussed :-( Yes folks, it will be the fishnets again if the Cap'n
> >manages to get home.......
> Or starkers if he does not (with invited guests?) :-)
> (Well mebbe one guest?) ;->
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of very tight and short
mini-skirt, stockings and stilleto heels and a night on the town with
Fifi if the Cap'n is not around to keep me in line..........
Karen Mossman
from David Wynne-Griffiths <dav...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> What is the general opinion on Christmas?
Well, a lot of people are saying that Christmas is too commercialised
now and not as nice as it once was. But I love it. It is not
commercialised for us. It is a time to spend with family and friends
with no more work. A time to recharge our batteries, drink a bit too
much and eat a bit too much and take stock of things. As for
presents, I buy them for my family and friends because I love them
and take pleasure in getting something they really like.
So yes, I enjoy Christmas very much.
,.....Karen
Marion Pearcey
from Helen Deborah Vecht <helen...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The message <199812091...@zetnet.co.uk>
> from David Wynne-Griffiths <dav...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> > What is the general opinion on Christmas? Is it a occasion almost
> > entirely taken over by commercial interests?
YES
> > A holiday with only the
> > most tenuous connection to Christianity? An occasion when we eat and
> > drink to excess and subsequent regret?
VERY TRUE
> To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
> up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
> called the 'office party'.
MANY MIDDLE AGED MEN TRY TO REGAIN THEIR LOST YOUTH, THRUST
THEMSELVES ON YOUNG GIRLS WHO REGARD THEM AS SILLY OLD SODS!!
> This is mainly because appreciation of the simple things in life is
> grossly undervalued in today's world.
AGREED
> The stress of housing too many people in too small a space is
> heightened by a lack of daylight and things to do outside the home.
ABSOLUTELY
> Self-restraint disappears fairly fast when the booze starts flowing
> so quarrels result.
NOT NECESSARILY - DEPENDS HOW WELL YOU HOLD YOUR DRINK!!
> > Is a four day holiday as this year too long?
DEFINITELY.
Marion
do...@zetnet.co.uk
Gerald L R Stubbs
from Karen Mossman <kj.mo...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Well, a lot of people are saying that Christmas is too commercialised
> now and not as nice as it once was. But I love it. It is not
> commercialised for us. It is a time to spend with family and friends
> with no more work. A time to recharge our batteries, drink a bit too
> much and eat a bit too much and take stock of things. As for
> presents, I buy them for my family and friends because I love them
> and take pleasure in getting something they really like.
> So yes, I enjoy Christmas very much.
> Karen
Humbug.... Horrible time of year. Waste of money, waste of resources,
and if it takes Christmas to sort one's priorities out, what have you
been doing the rest of the year?
Stubbsy stu...@zetnet.co.uk
<:)(((((><<
Ag@whd
wrote these words:
> NOT NECESSARILY - DEPENDS HOW WELL YOU HOLD YOUR DRINK!!
>
>> > Is a four day holiday as this year too long?
>
> DEFINITELY.
YOU'RE SHOUTING AGAIN! :-)
Frances Patricia Amas
from Gerald L R Stubbs <stu...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Humbug.... Horrible time of year. Waste of money, waste of resources,
> and if it takes Christmas to sort one's priorities out, what have you
> been doing the rest of the year?
>
> Stubbsy stu...@zetnet.co.uk
>
Scrooge is alive and well and is English but lives in Scotland! Come
on, Stubbsy, this must be your most lucrative time of year when it
comes to salmon. Surely that must bring something approaching a
smile to your face?
--
Fran
ja...@zetnet.co.uk
Ag@whd
>To really 'enjoy' Christmas, many middle-aged women tart themselves
>up like common whores and act out the role at what is euphemistically
>called the 'office party'.
Well, it's "office party" time so I'm all 'tarted' up and ready (and
willing) to meet all the other tarts of feminine persuasion.
Just waiting for the taxi now.
Hmm - trip to cashpoint will need to be the first port of call Fran! ;-)
Frances Patricia Amas
from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
> Well, it's "office party" time so I'm all 'tarted' up and ready (and
> willing) to meet all the other tarts of feminine persuasion.
> Just waiting for the taxi now.
> Hmm - trip to cashpoint will need to be the first port of call Fran! ;-)
> Adrian
Eh? It's not my fault you haven't any money!
--
Fran
ja...@zetnet.co.uk
Gerald L R Stubbs
from Frances Patricia Amas <ja...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Scrooge is alive and well and is English but lives in Scotland! Come
> on, Stubbsy, this must be your most lucrative time of year when it
> comes to salmon. Surely that must bring something approaching a
> smile to your face?
> Fran
Yes, and it's very welcome. But why can't they
buy it at an even rate through the year instead
of wanting it all in the week before Christmas?
It's very thoughtless.
Stubbsy stu...@zetnet.co.uk
<:)(((((><<
Rose Conway
from Someone who's name has long since disap...@zetnet.co.uk>
contains these words:
> > > Is a four day holiday as this year too long?
No - we're actually going to get two whole days off!!
Gary
Ag@whd
<ja...@zetnet.co.uk> penned these words:
>The message <3672b39c....@znews.zetnet.co.uk>
> from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
>
>> Well, it's "office party" time so I'm all 'tarted' up and ready (and
>> willing) to meet all the other tarts of feminine persuasion.
>
>> Just waiting for the taxi now.
>> Hmm - trip to cashpoint will need to be the first port of call Fran! ;-)
>
>Eh? It's not my fault you haven't any money!
But ... you stopped me going shopping, remember?
One port of call was the cashpoint! :-)
Frances Patricia Amas
from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
> >Eh? It's not my fault you haven't any money!
> But ... you stopped me going shopping, remember?
> One port of call was the cashpoint! :-)
> Adrian
Oh, all *my* fault then! Hope the hangover isn't too dreadful.
--
Fran
ja...@zetnet.co.uk
Ag@whd
<ja...@zetnet.co.uk> penned these words:
>The message <3675b17f....@znews.zetnet.co.uk>
> from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
>
>> >Eh? It's not my fault you haven't any money!
>
>> But ... you stopped me going shopping, remember?
>> One port of call was the cashpoint! :-)
>
>Oh, all *my* fault then! Hope the hangover isn't too dreadful.
Don't usually suffer from them, but then the bar drinks were all on the
company too, as was all the wine, beer, etc during the meal too!
(and I'm not a permie either ... all contractors / consultants were
apparently invited but only myself attended!)
Linda Sutherland
from Gerald L R Stubbs <stu...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Yes, and it's very welcome. But why can't they
> buy it at an even rate through the year instead
> of wanting it all in the week before Christmas?
> It's very thoughtless.
You mean the customer isn't always right? :-)
--
Linda Sutherland
linda.su...@zetnet.co.uk
Nicholas Besley
The message <199812131...@zetnet.co.uk>
from Linda Sutherland <linda.su...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> You mean the customer isn't always right? :-)
> Linda Sutherland
> linda.su...@zetnet.co.uk
We have a phrase at The Emporium (said to customers' faces!) "User
incompetence!" (with a pleasant smiley)
Tony
--
The Emporium, Secondhand Hi-Fi and Records,
28 St. Nicholas Street, Diss, Norfolk IP22 3LB
tel/fax 01379 650744 empo...@zetnet.co.uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/emporium/
Marion Pearcey
from Gerald L R Stubbs <stu...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Yes, and it's very welcome. But why can't they
> buy it at an even rate through the year instead
> of wanting it all in the week before Christmas?
> It's very thoughtless.
>
> Stubbsy stu...@zetnet.co.uk
>
> <:)(((((><<
I think it's known as the Christmas mentality!
--
Marion
do...@zetnet.co.uk
Marion Pearcey
from Frances Patricia Amas <ja...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The message <3672b39c....@znews.zetnet.co.uk>
> from w...@directors-1.zetnet.zet (Ag@whd) contains these words:
> > Well, it's "office party" time so I'm all 'tarted' up and ready (and
> > willing) to meet all the other tarts of feminine persuasion.
Years ago it was all the rage to spray your hair with glitter and I
chose gold. On the way it rained and when I got there the gold had
turned khaki and really looked awful. There was nothing I could do
about it, so I stood alone, unloved like the proverbial wallflower.
Even the office creep didn't fancy me!!
--
Marion
do...@zetnet.co.uk
Gerald L R Stubbs
from Linda Sutherland <linda.su...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> from Gerald L R Stubbs <stu...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> > Yes, and it's very welcome. But why can't they
> > buy it at an even rate through the year instead
> > of wanting it all in the week before Christmas?
> > It's very thoughtless.
> You mean the customer isn't always right? :-)
> Linda
Of course the customer is right, as they are
discerning enough to choose Ben Maillie's
rather than inferior brands that masquerade as
smoked salmon.
It's just that their purchasing habits leave a
little to be desired.
--
Stubbsy stu...@zetnet.co.uk
<:)(((((><<
Adam Thorn
from Marion Pearcey <do...@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Years ago it was all the rage to spray your hair with glitter and I
> chose gold. On the way it rained and when I got there the gold had
> turned khaki and really looked awful. There was nothing I could do
> about it, so I stood alone, unloved like the proverbial wallflower.
> Even the office creep didn't fancy me!!
Marion, I've told you once already: you're *not* going to get the
sympathy vote! <g> Well, I've already said that such pleas aimed at
me fall on deaf ears, and can you really see the likes of Stubbs,
Trudgill and Gothard reacting any differently? :)