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My name is Zack Arnold. I'm a Hollywood film and television editor, a documentary director, father of two, an American Ninja Warrior in training and the creator of Optimize Yourself. For over 10 years now I have obsessively searched for every possible way to optimize my own creative and athletic performance. And now I'm here to shorten your learning curve. Whether you're a creative professional who edits, writes or directs, you're an entrepreneur, or even if you're a weekend warrior, I strongly believe you can be successful without sacrificing your health or your sanity in the process. You ready? Let's design the optimized version of you. Hello, and welcome to the Optimize Yourself podcast. If you're a brand new optimizer I welcome you and I sincerely hope that you enjoy today's conversation. If you were inspired to take action after listening today, why not tell a friend about the show and help Spread the Love. And if you're a longtime listener and optimizer Oh gee, welcome back. Whether you're brand new or you're seasoned vet, if you have just 10 seconds today, it would mean the world to me if you clicked the subscribe button in your podcast app of choice, because the more people that subscribe, the more that iTunes and the other platforms can recognize this show, and thus the more people that you and I can inspire, to step outside their comfort zones to reach their greatest potential. And now on to today's show. When you think of film editors, let's face it, healthy habits and good physical conditioning are not images that immediately come to mind. But with a pandemic upon us, and with the high cost of the passion tax that we constantly pay as Hollywood creatives, healthy living is no longer an option. It is a necessity. If we want strong immune systems and creative minds that are resilient to high stress environments, it is imperative that all of us adopt healthier habits like eating better and moving more throughout the day. Now While it might seem as though these are new concepts, today's guest proves that these ideas have been successful for decades. Legendary and Oscar winning Hollywood film editor Walter merge, who has edited such films as tomorrow land Cold Mountain, The English Patient, Apocalypse Now and the Godfather three just to name a very select few knows just how important it is to be health conscious and physically fit in order to do the intense creative work that is required to edit critically acclaimed films and documentaries. Walter has spent years not only honing his craft, but also honing his most valuable assets, his body and his mind. And for those of you who might be unaware, Walter is the leading pioneer in the standing desk movement. I have just amplified his work, but he started this decades ago. In today's conversation, Walter shares the secrets for maintaining his health and his energy levels. When he's working long hours on feature films. he dives deep into the neuroscience of water Our brains work better when our bodies are moving more, and he talks about the strategies that he uses to incorporate movement throughout his day. We talk in detail about his specific creative process, the long standing issue of burnout and excessive work hours, and how he feels about editors being classified as below the line. Now, just to be clear, upfront, while this was originally a conversation from the fitness and post days, there is an abundance of timeless wisdom to be gleaned from the legend himself, who has survived well over four decades in a brutal industry, where it when people start dropping like flies, the executive simply reply, then get more flies, as you're going to hear
Now if today's interview inspires you to take the next step towards a more fulfilling career path that not only aligns you with projects that you are passionate about, but also includes some semblance of work life balance, and especially if you would like support mentorship and community to help you turn that those goals into reality. Well, then you and I need to talk because in early September, I am opening Fall Enrollment for my optimizer coaching and mentorship program, and it sounds like you might be the perfect fit. Over the last three years I have now worked with well over 100 students and I have seen stunning transformations. But the biggest obstacle for most of you has been that the program was just too expensive or require too much time. Luckily, those are no longer problems because I've made the program a lot more affordable and a lot less time intensive for those who have busy lives, but still need an extra push to make whatever the next major transition is in your life. If you would like to learn more and get on the waitlist to be the first to have access to the application when it becomes available. Please visit optimize yourself.me slash optimizer. Alright, without further ado, my conversation with legendary Oscar winning editor Walter merge made possible today by our amazing sponsors ever cast and arrow driven. We're gonna Gonna be featured a little bit later in today's interview, to access the show notes for this and all previous episodes, as well as to subscribe so you don't miss the next inspirational interview, please visit optimize yourself.me slash podcast. So I'm here today with none other than the Walter merge. And if there's anybody listening to this call that is not aware of Walter merge or his work, I highly suggest that you turn off this podcast immediately. And you sit down and you read the conversations you read in the blink of an eye, and you read behind the scene, because to me, those are kind of the film theory and editing theory 101 courses that every single person needs to go through if they really want to understand the art form of editing. So if you feel that going on lynda.com or going to Larry Jordans website and learning premiere, or avid or Final Cut Pro 10 is really the place to start if you want to be an editor. I couldn't disagree more and I just I cannot express how excited I am to have you on the other end of this microphone. So thank you so much Walter for doing this, like you're supposed to be here. I know that I had mentioned this to you privately. But I want to make sure that our audience is aware that the instigation for every single thing that I've done for the last almost 10 years now to really focus on my health and combined focus on health and wellness with being a great editor comes from you. So when everybody thinks of, Oh, I stand at my desk, they're like, Oh, yeah, like Walter merge. And what I'm finding is that now I'm starting to hear people say, yeah, I'm starting to stand on my desk, you know, like Zack Arnold and Walter merge, which to me, is just such a cool thing to see people kind of, you know, seeing as named in the same sentence, but it goes much further than just standing at a desk. And I remember kind of, if I go back to a couple other episodes where I talk a lot about how to really get out there and meet people in network. I actually sent you a personal letter to your home. I think it was probably about 10 years ago now. And you and I had kind of a brief conversation over email for a while. And one of the things that I had said to you, which I'm embarrassed about, but I'm kind of not embarrassed about is I had said that behind the scene is most likely my favorite book that I've ever read about editing and everybody needs to read it even though the technology in it is completely outdated. It doesn't matter at all, because the theory and the ideas behind it are great. And I told you that behind the scene was like porn for editors. And I still stand by
that because it really is like it was just I could not put it down and it took me like two days to get through it. And it is a thick book. And I just pulled it off my bookshelf last night and there are highlights everywhere post. It's everywhere. But I found the one phrase that in my mind is what started the fitness and posts revolution even though this was a decade ago. So it planted the seed in my mind. So I'm going to read this passage and this is where it all began for me and this is where I want to go with the conversation today. So So for those who don't know, behind the scene, which is actually spelled s e n, is all about the process that you went through on a daily basis editing the feature film Cold Mountain using Final Cut Pro, which back then was just unheard of and really, really innovative and like oh my God, that's crazy. Can you even do that? But you were it was an early passage near the beginning of the film, you'd move to Romania with the film crew. And the this passage reads, even in the Edit meaning as opposed to being on the set, far from set, there will be long nights missed meals intentions. So Walter uses the time leading up to a film start date to get in good physical condition. This is the week of the summer solstice. So there's ample daylight to schedule four or eight mile runs every day. And I will never forget, when I read that passage, I literally put the book down. I was like, Oh my God, that's brilliant. I can't just treat editing in a matter that I have to understand the cuts and I have to read the script. I actually finished Have to prepare no different than if I were an Olympian getting ready for an event, you don't just wake up and run a mile, you get ready for it. And this is what really started everything so that that's what I want the conversation to be about today. So tell me a little bit about how you approach being an editor and being in such a stressful environment with such long hours, as far as your health is concerned, because I know that you, you know, make it a point to take walks and do. So I really want to understand because you have such a robust background in brain science and neuroscience, why it's so important to you that you do things like get in good physical condition before working on a show.
Well, a little background background is my dad was an artist. And he had a studio in our apartment in New York, and it was a very sedentary job. He would go into his room and he would work for 12-14 hours a day. Making paintings and he keeled over at age 60 have a heart attack when I was 24. And this had a big effect on me, as you can imagine, starting about them, and I thought, Well, I'm not going to let that happen to me. And so I started running back in my early 20s. And I've just kept at it ever since. So here we are 50 plus years later. So there are enough similarities between what he was doing and what we do in the editor on meaning you're in a closed environment, you're in there under stressful situations with deadlines. You know, the environment is not particularly toxic, but it's not friendly either. Just in terms of all of the paraphernalia that surrounds you. And you have to take that into consideration and you combine that With the fact that so much of what we do especially in feature theatrical films, in a we're in there more or less for about a year from the from when the film starts shooting until the film is in the theaters, give or take a couple of months, it's a year which is sort of marathon II, especially when you consider the towards the end of it, you can easily be working seven days a week, 14 hours a day. So there has to be you have to find ways to work in your physical and mental health into the into the equation otherwise you like my father will just keel over one day.