ZeroBugs zombie apocalypse?

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Phil Hobbs

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Oct 14, 2010, 4:30:12 PM10/14/10
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ZeroBugs seems to have gone into hibernation at the end of 2009...are
there any signs of life?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

cristiv

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Oct 17, 2010, 5:29:41 PM10/17/10
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Phil,

Unfortunately ZeroBUGS never made enough money so that I could work on
it full time.

Indeed the project was in hibernation mode as I was busy for a while
working at (gasp) Microsoft (on the next Windows release).

I have recently left MS and I intend to release ZeroBUGS as open
source (I have actually started on reviewing the code and removing
hooks to the license manager).

I am roughly looking at releasing the source before Christmas, but I
cannot make any promises as my first priority right now is ramping up
at my new job.

The current plan is to upload the project on CodePlex under the Boost
Software License 1.0.

Best regards,
Cristian

Phil Hobbs

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Oct 17, 2010, 11:36:57 PM10/17/10
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Cristian,

I'm sorry to hear that it wasn't a huge commercial success, and I'm also quite surprised--the best gdb front end I know of is ddd, and it's not as good as CodeView for DOS, circa 1990. 

A good debugger can easily save thousands of dollars a year in programmer time.  My favourite remains the IBM VisualAge C++ debugger for OS/2, but that isn't the absolutely most useful platform, and it doesn't support STL or anything fancy like that....I hope that ZB can replace it.  I'm glad that it's likely to remain available, and I hope you get lots of honour and glory for the open source version.  (That can be pretty significant actually--I make my living as a consultant, and most of my business comes in by way of a textbook I wrote a few years ago.)

I can install a downlevel Ubuntu on a test machine to try it out...if I like it, would it be worth your time to make me a Lucid x86_64 build for $400 or so?   (Preferably statically linked, since you're open-sourcing it anyway.)  I have a couple of nasty bugs in my electromagnetic simulator code, and it would be great to have a better toolbox for fixing it.

Cheers

Phil




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Harri Pasanen

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Oct 18, 2010, 3:21:33 AM10/18/10
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I did enjoy trying out ZeroBugs, although it did not quite work for the huge
code-base I was working with at a time, hats off for the effort. Lets hope it
will pick up in its open source incarnation.

If you want to try something different, you make want to take a look at Qt
Creator from Nokia which has a very good gdb front end. It can unravel STL
containers and you can write your own data dumpers as with ZeroBugs.
It is available open source, but development is fully financed by Nokia.

For more info see http://developer.qt.nokia.com/ and for gdb mojo:
http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/10/15/peek-and-poke-vol-4/

Note that Qt Creator is more than just a gdb front end, it is more comparable
to Visual Studio IDE.

Regards,

Harri

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Harri Pasanen

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Oct 21, 2010, 3:17:24 AM10/21/10
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Do you mean the debugger integration? It is integrated very well, gdb is not
"visible" at all, it feels like a GUI debugger. Note that Qt Creator,
including debugging, works across Linux, Mac OSX, Windows. On windows the
backend is CDB, if the compiler is CL, gdb if you are using Mingw.

Note that people are actually comparing the two:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2881199/which-is-better-qt-creator-or-
visual-studio-ide
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1519291/qt-should-i-use-visual-studio-qt-
creator-or-something-else

which in my says a lot, as Visual Studio is a very mature and nice product.

I'm doing all my development on linux, and for me Qt Creator works really
well.

Harri


On Thursday, October 21, 2010 03:09:06 am Phil Hobbs wrote:
> Harri,
>
> Thanks. Is it nicely integrated like Visual Studio, or is it more like
> Eclipse?
>
> Thanks
>
> Phil

> >>> ps .com> .

Peter Kerzum

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Jul 13, 2011, 10:17:51 AM7/13/11
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ZeroBugs is a powerfull debugger
I used it once but then failed to install it on a newer version of Slackware
Please realease it as opensource and we'll try to participate

2010/10/18 cristiv <cristi.v...@gmail.com>
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C. Vlasceanu

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Jul 13, 2011, 11:07:12 AM7/13/11
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The project has already been released as open source:
http://zerobugs.codeplex.com/

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