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Vinc...@aol.com

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Apr 12, 2014, 1:17:48 AM4/12/14
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Bill Bindal

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Apr 12, 2014, 11:53:40 PM4/12/14
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Is there any news about stores. Our area is getting ready for BT. I hope BT means Better Times for us. 

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gupta amit

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Apr 13, 2014, 12:14:49 AM4/13/14
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I think it is headache time for us

Bill Bindal

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Apr 13, 2014, 12:57:55 AM4/13/14
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Do u already have  BT in your area. What factors cause headache. Then what is the purpose doing it. 

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Jatinder Singh

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Apr 13, 2014, 2:15:36 AM4/13/14
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Bill 
Long time no post on this group, thanks for putting some thing up 

Jatinder Singh
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gupta amit

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Apr 13, 2014, 10:27:20 AM4/13/14
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Hi Mr. Bindal
Our area is the last one to roll BT in Fresno. I think big one is when Mclane delivery comes, we have to scan everything and that one will be time consuming (extra labor paid by us). I guess when we experience this we will know better.
Amit Gupta

Bill Bindal

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Apr 13, 2014, 12:29:56 PM4/13/14
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Hi Amit : we would like to hear from those who have it. Did it benefit them. What is the viewpoint of leadership, both locals and NC on this subject. I know cost is no more the propagated merit of it. 

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mfoster762

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Apr 13, 2014, 1:37:37 PM4/13/14
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Of course it is not about cost, never was, even though that lie was put out there years ago, it is about control and exclusive profit for SEI.


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Bill Bindal

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Apr 13, 2014, 1:56:28 PM4/13/14
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Did our leadership have had discussions with SEI to bring amends to make it user-friendly and financially equitable for all stakeholders. I think it is time to do more beyond successful trade shows and golf tournaments. 

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Lucinda

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Apr 13, 2014, 3:18:30 PM4/13/14
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Bill,
Our area has had it almost 2 months now.  I haven't seen any advantages yet but I don't do everything the way they want so I'm sure there are some good things about this.   My issues are: I use to order once a week from McLane, was forced to do 2 times, can not call McLane to add things on your order, actually NO VENDORS can add to your order, they are all helpless.
No McLane invoice, you make your invoice as you scan the items. The problem there is non-recommended items.  McLane sends "1", they charge you for one but SEI has it in the system wrong and is charging you cost and retail for 24!  You can get invoices from your other vendors, just none from CDC or McLane. 
It is totally about control, one very important thing, make sure you are there on audit day with this new company! VERY IMPORTANT TO CHECK, DOUBLE CHECK AND TRIPLE CHECK THEM. 
Good luck!!



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Neil Rose

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Apr 13, 2014, 4:57:23 PM4/13/14
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let ME tell you  THAT THE VENDORS WILL STOP COMMING TO THE STORE , they have no incentive to come. We also miss out on the post op deals from alcohol, which hurts your GP. Bill Solomon has threatened the vendors if they do any orders for us. One of the stores had a delivery time of Friday, that happened to be a vacation and they ended up not being able to check in the delivery because Monday was more than 72 hours late.  My store has had A PROBLEM WITH NON TRANSMITTED ORDERS BECUASE OF THE sei SYSTEM AND NO MATTER WHAT sei will tell you, sorry sell you, you are out of luck. Yes there is an expense for labor which is not off set by reduced prices.
 
 Let me tell you know after  almost six months in the BT program the daily operations control in the store is becoming zero store and 100% SEI control, The FC has become a checker of operations each and every visit, cycle counts, out of stock, and more.
 
Good luck
 

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mfoster762

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Apr 13, 2014, 6:17:53 PM4/13/14
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Orderly distribution in and of itself is NOT  a bad thing. Limiting the franchisees ability to satisfy customer's is. No two stores are the same. For Dallas to think they know best is why sales and profits are down. They want to blame FZ's for their failures. If only FZ's would blindly follow questionable ideas all would be good.

Maher

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Apr 13, 2014, 8:10:47 PM4/13/14
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Hi Bill
I am very certain that our leadership will address this issue provided that you foa president being it to the table. 
It's ironic that the previous leadership did not address this issue head one over the last FOUR years. 
Just for the record, 
all I heard from previous leadership, Bruce and Jivtesh to be specific was
We talked about it...
We address it...
711 are aware of it...
We will talk about it next time....
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Apr 13, 2014, 9:21:10 PM4/13/14
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Hi Bill
I am very certain that our leadership will address this issue provided that your foa president will bring it to the table. 
It's ironic that the previous leadership did not address this issue head on over the last FOUR years. 
Just for the record, 
all I heard from previous leadership, Bruce and Jivtesh to be specific was
We talked about it...
We address it...
711 is aware of it...
We will talk about it next time....
..........
Re-written for clarification. 
I wrote it very fast earlier. 
Al

Jack Rugen

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Apr 14, 2014, 8:57:33 AM4/14/14
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We're expecting it here in North Atlantic zone...was supposed to be Q1 but now looks like Q3.  I'm not looking fwd to it.  Right now got lotsa non-rec items fm rec & non-rec vendors.  Havin' hard time satisfy in' my customers wants/needs.  Sales are down big time!

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John Irvine

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Apr 14, 2014, 11:27:28 AM4/14/14
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Did not know this thing was still going
 
Good to see there is a few people out there willing to speak
 
Franchisees seem to be scared to death
 
I guess that is what they want

Kerri Clinton

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Apr 14, 2014, 1:56:46 PM4/14/14
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I was surprised to see Zmail pop up again after all this time too John! I see nothing has changed.....HI to Cathy!

Bill Bindal

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Apr 14, 2014, 2:37:57 PM4/14/14
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Talking to BC, lower inventory, auto replenishment of slow categories, stronger store infrastructure ( order writers) and item by item count are the major benefits. When asked if lower inventory is the purpose why do they have 48 corn dogs in a box, he had no answer. He did say that it is not going to be more profitable and it is not smarter way of doing business. I do not know what others are told. 

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mfoster762

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Apr 14, 2014, 3:01:09 PM4/14/14
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Ahhhh....but Bill....Ena and others promised a 10% increase in GP $ through better cost, better turns and improved 
product mix....you are saying BC says none of that is goal.

Bill Bindal

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Apr 14, 2014, 3:13:02 PM4/14/14
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Yes he did clearly say that. And in our meetings too, they do not say it will bring any financial benefit. Yes in reduced interest payment: wow. But when CDC was rolled out, it was clearly said that stores will see better margin. Our market's margin in fresh sandwich is around 16 percent. I can understand one store not doing right but whole market cannot do wrong. And BC agreed. 

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mfoster762

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Apr 14, 2014, 3:35:09 PM4/14/14
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Which means on "made fresh yesterday" sandwiches you are big loser. 16% GP SEI takes half you are left with 8% to cover labor and overhead. Any other part of store perform this poorly you would get rid of it....but on this FZ is stuck with over priced lousy product.  Makes you wonder who wins....the Italians have an expression "Cui Bono?" 

Jack Rugen

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Apr 14, 2014, 3:52:04 PM4/14/14
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John: when The General says jump...
The troops jump.  That's why they're doin' things like new multiple-tiered agreements, BT and takin' control of the mix via non-user friendly Retailer Initiative to get rid'o long-tenured Zees.  "They think we're da problem".  When on reality, it's there system and control that's stifling entrepreneurship.

It's all on them!!  But, they will never admit or accept responsibility!!

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Jack Rugen

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Apr 14, 2014, 3:55:56 PM4/14/14
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Bill:
Not only 48 counts on corn dogs but if you or ur Mgr deleted an item due to slow or dead sales, they expect U to bring it back to be I'm compliance with the agreement.  They just contradict themselves.  But, I guess they have to show numbers to the vendors who R Payin' for POS and other advtg materials in support of corporate.  Meanwhile we get screwed!!

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Bill Bindal

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Apr 14, 2014, 4:09:35 PM4/14/14
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Number of corn dogs in a box is 72 not 48. Hence they are contradicting their own recommendations. I think they want to do "spring cleaning" as he also indicated that Fzs in up north have put their stores for sale and many FCs have either left or contemplating leaving the company because it is hard for them to pursue current agenda. Head tables need to talk to company and guide the zees through this difficult phase. 

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Bill Bindal

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Apr 14, 2014, 4:36:52 PM4/14/14
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Jack you seem right. We were doing RI exercise in one store for BT roll out preparation. We identified juice category. The slowest items were 7 select juices. When someone said should we delete them, all the FCs started looking at each other. It so happened after few days we had similar training for other sub-group. When it was proposed that let's do juice category, they said no and we did energy drink category instead. What message do we get here. 

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Jack Rugen

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Apr 15, 2014, 1:35:23 PM4/15/14
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Bill,
They talk outta both sides of their collective mouths.  If I delete an item due to slow or no sls and they run a promo on that item, I'm expected to bring that item back to satisfy my compliance w/the agreement...makes no sense!

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