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problems@gmail

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:38:09 AM8/27/08
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Zuma the popularist sure has identified the concerns of the masses.

And one of them is the correct perception that new-SA's justice is
not serving the people. Is that why after years of degeneration,
the ANC has appointed J. De Lange to try and fix-it ?

The fact that lame legal advice can cost R2'000 per hour, is not
lost to all of the masses who know that this charge is multiples
of what their widowed mother gets in state pension per month.

The recent report of plenty arms & ammunitions confiscated,
on a tip off, before settlement of a dispute, originating from
alledged theft of 3 cattle; shows how the citizens prefer not
to rely on the SA legal system for relief of grievances.

It's natural and logical the the highest judges who stand at the
peak of this self-serving black gown brotherhood should be
resented. Hence the increasing criticism of the top judges
who's black gowns and rituals can't hide the incompetent
and corrupt judicial system.

== Chris Glur.

ProfQ

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Aug 30, 2008, 7:20:45 AM8/30/08
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problems@gmail wrote:
> Zuma the popularist sure has identified the concerns of the masses.
>
> And one of them is the correct perception that new-SA's justice is
> not serving the people. Is that why after years of degeneration,
> the ANC has appointed J. De Lange to try and fix it ?
>
> The fact that lame legal advice can cost R2000 per hour, is not

> lost to all of the masses who know that this charge is multiples
> of what their widowed mother gets in state pension per month.

Why must the nation pay for ZUMA's defense? If he is innocent, he can
pay for his own defense. If he is guilty, he must pay his own bills.
Just who does he think he is that he can get the population to pay his
bills? JAIL ZUMA, FREE SHAIK!

ZUMA is guilty. Shaik is innocent. Free Shaik, Jail Zuma!

> The recent report of plenty arms & ammunitions confiscated,

> on a tip-off, before settlement of a dispute, originating from


> alledged theft of 3 cattle; shows how the citizens prefer not
> to rely on the SA legal system for relief of grievances.

Of course not! The SA Legal System was installed by WHITES from
Roman-Dutch Law. Their tribal heritage wants to over-rule every aspect
of history.

> It's natural and logical that the highest judges who stand at the


> peak of this self-serving black gown brotherhood should be
> resented. Hence the increasing criticism of the top judges

> whose black gowns and rituals can't hide the incompetent
> and corrupt judicial system.
Absolutely! With the emphasis on INCOMPETENT (inept) and CORRUPT (what
in the ruling party is NOT corrupt?)

People tend to forget where the ANC came from. Since its inception in
1913 it has, amongst and with others, been involved somehow with every
single war on the African continent with the exception of Nigeria and
other West African countries. All East African countries that have had
wars since 1913 has had ANC involvement somehow. They were, they are and
always will be TERRORISTS. I do not care how much "violence" they
"renounce" - they are all TRAINED terrorists, it is part of who they
are, "freedom fighters" in their languages, "terrorists" in English.

The only way to stop the ineptitude and corruption in South Africa is to
vote out the ANC government and vote in a Democratic Alliance
Government. This is the ONLY hope for this country. Otherwise it will go
the same way as every other country north of us, including Zimbo - a
desolate wasteland! They cannot blame that on Apartheid. They can only
blame that on their ineptitude and corruption.

Rodney Ulyate

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Sep 12, 2008, 11:40:26 AM9/12/08
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A bigoted cob thought it expedient to spout:
> problems@gmail wrote:
[...]

>> It's natural and logical that the highest judges who stand at the
>> peak of this self-serving black gown brotherhood should be
>> resented. Hence the increasing criticism of the top judges
>> whose black gowns and rituals can't hide the incompetent
>> and corrupt judicial system.
> Absolutely! With the emphasis on INCOMPETENT (inept) and CORRUPT (what
> in the ruling party is NOT corrupt?)
> People tend to forget where the ANC came from. Since its inception in
> 1913 it has, amongst and with others, been involved somehow with every
> single war on the African continent with the exception of Nigeria and
> other West African countries. All East African countries that have had
> wars since 1913 has had ANC involvement somehow. They were, they are and
> always will be TERRORISTS. I do not care how much "violence" they
> "renounce" - they are all TRAINED terrorists, it is part of who they
> are, "freedom fighters" in their languages, "terrorists" in English.

<plonk>

--
Cheers,
Rodney Ulyate

"A man can surely do what he wants to do. But he cannot determine what
he wants."
Arthur Schopenhauer

Bob Dubery

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Sep 13, 2008, 1:11:03 AM9/13/08
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On Aug 27, 5:38 pm, problems@gmail wrote:
> Zuma the popularist sure has identified the concerns of the masses.
>
> And one of them is the correct perception that new-SA's justice is
> not serving the people. Is that why after years of degeneration,
> the ANC has appointed J. De Lange to try and fix-it ?

Despite the antics of some of their supporters Zuma and even Malema
have not been unreasonable in their statements in the run up to the
recent hearing. Zuma has said that in a country that has freedom of
speech enshrined in it's constitution that it should be permissible to
speak critically of the judiciary or a judge, but that he would prefer
that such criticism be well informed.

Malema came out with the witty observation that it's OK to criticise a
judge who is a drunk and to express respect for one who is sober.


>
> The fact that lame legal advice can cost R2'000 per hour, is not
> lost to all of the masses who know that this charge is multiples
> of what their widowed mother gets in state pension per month.

That's the price you pay for the time of top professionals. It takes
them a lot of time and effort to get to that position. You could hire
30 top professionals and have a tri-nations match in your back yard,
but you'd pay for the privilege. Usually with rugby matches the costs
are spread over TV channels, sponsors and spectators, the law doesn't
work quite the same way.

Recent changes in this country meant that professions could not fix
fees as this would be anti-competitive. There used to be fixed fees -
but no more.

>
> The recent report of plenty arms & ammunitions confiscated,
> on a tip off, before settlement of a dispute, originating from
> alledged theft of 3 cattle; shows how the citizens prefer not
> to rely on the SA legal system for relief of grievances.

That's just thuggery and the common South African lack of respect for
the law. Don't get it confused with anything desirable.


>
> It's natural and logical the the highest judges who stand at the
> peak of this self-serving black gown brotherhood should be
> resented.

Uhhh..... judges charge by the hour?


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