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Rick Sherwood

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Mar 11, 2004, 9:46:14 PM3/11/04
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Truth Seeker wrote:

> Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
> discredit its critics & enemies?
When will ARS Bigots learn that the Chruch always
pervails? Why do ARS Bigots waste there time spreading false data about
the Chruch? The truth speaks for itself.
Woody

Truth Seeker

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Mar 11, 2004, 10:18:03 PM3/11/04
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Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
discredit its critics & enemies?


They tell a group of members from their own church to pose as
critics & enemies of scientology and then once the outside world is
convinced they are critics & enemies of scientology, they tell them to
behave in a way that discredits themselves and the identity of "critic
of scientology" in front of the world. They have them deliberately
tell lies, talk and act like a nut, say religiously bigoted things and
start name calling like kids would. This in turn will also hurt the
reputations of all the REAL critics of scientology by association.

For example, lets say you wanted to discredit Scientology and
scientologists, how would you go about doing it? It's very simple,
first you would pose as a scientologist as if you're a actor in a
play. Once the world believed you actually were a scientologist you
would then go on to public forums and start saying crazy wacky things
in front of the whole world. Since the world thinks you are a
scientologist they will naturally start thinking scientologists are
crazy & wacky. This is the way to degrade & assassinate the character
of a certain identity, the identity of "scientologist". "Critic of
scientology" is also an identity which can be degraded & discredited
by using the same technique in reverse.

Could this be the same operation Scientology is running in order


to discredit its critics & enemies?

Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier to
this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to read.
If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on the title
of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or go to
google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article. Make sure
that if you do a search on a title to leave out the quotation marks:

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"
*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"
*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"
*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"
*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of Scientology"
*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this newsgroup"
*- "The Real Source of Happiness"
*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their enemies"
*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on this newsgroup?"
*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"
*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"
*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"
*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"
*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a petition!"
*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"
*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"
*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this newsgroup"
*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"
*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"
*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"
*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"
*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use on this newsgroup"
*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of Scientology"
*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"
*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"
*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"
*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"
*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those "Xenu" web sites"
*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this newsgroup"
*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"
*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free" from"
*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"
*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""
*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"
*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"
*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics & Criticism of their church"
*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"
*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those "xenu" web sites"
*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"
*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"
*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"
*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how things are in reality"
*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"
*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"
*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"
*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"
*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"
*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"
*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it is probably because the
Church of Scientology has illegally canceled it in order to keep anybody from reading it.
Please wait for me to re-post it in the future.


Thank You.


Rick Sherwood

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Mar 11, 2004, 10:31:10 PM3/11/04
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Truth Seeker wrote:
> Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
> discredit its critics & enemies?
As usual ARS Bigots spread there
lies and distortion about Chruch operations. When will ARS Bigots learn
that the Chruch is immune to there criticism? When will ARS Bigots
learn the value of telling the truth about the Chruch?
Woody

Truth Seeker

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Mar 11, 2004, 10:50:11 PM3/11/04
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Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
discredit its critics & enemies?

They tell a group of members from their own church to pose as
critics & enemies of scientology and then once the outside world is
convinced they are critics & enemies of scientology, they tell them to
behave in a way that discredits themselves and the identity of "critic
of scientology" in front of the world. They have them deliberately
tell lies, talk and act like a nut, say religiously bigoted things and
start name calling like kids would. This in turn will also hurt the
reputations of all the REAL critics of scientology by association.

For example, lets say you wanted to discredit Scientology and
scientologists, how would you go about doing it? It's very simple,
first you would pose as a scientologist as if you're a actor in a
play. Once the world believed you actually were a scientologist you
would then go on to public forums and start saying crazy wacky things
in front of the whole world. Since the world thinks you are a
scientologist they will naturally start thinking scientologists are
crazy & wacky. This is the way to degrade & assassinate the character
of a certain identity, the identity of "scientologist". "Critic of
scientology" is also an identity which can be degraded & discredited
by using the same technique in reverse.

Could this be the same operation Scientology is running in order


to discredit its critics & enemies?

Rick Sherwood

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Mar 11, 2004, 11:01:14 PM3/11/04
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Truth Seeker wrote:
> Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
> discredit its critics & enemies?
The Chruch does not waste time
discrediting ARS Bigots. It is to busy helping people. Why don't ARS
BIgots want people to get the help they need?
Woody

Rick Sherwood

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Mar 11, 2004, 11:27:39 PM3/11/04
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Truth Seeker wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:01:14 -0500, Rick Sherwood
> <woodn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Truth Seeker wrote:
>>
>>>Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
>>>discredit its critics & enemies?
>>
>> The Chruch does not waste time
>>discrediting ARS Bigots.
>
>
> Where did I say they spent their time discrediting ARS Bigots?
The data is right in front of
you waiting for you to evlauate it. Or are you like all the other ARS
Bigots who cant evaluate data even when it is completely obvious?
Woody

Rick Sherwood

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Mar 12, 2004, 12:34:20 AM3/12/04
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Truth Seeker wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:01:05 -0500, Rick Sherwood


> <woodn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Truth Seeker wrote:
>>
>>
>>

>>> You said earlier, and I quote: "The Chruch does not waste
>>>time discrediting ARS Bigots. Who is the "Chruch" and where did I
>>>specifically say that they spent their time discrediting ARS Bigots?
>>
>> You said "Could this be the operation
>>Scientology is running in order to discredit its critics & enemies?" a
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Right! I said "discredit its critics & enemies" NOT "ARS Bigots".
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Your statment was a lie. I said nothing about "ARS Bigots".
As usual, ARS Bigots lie
and distort. I said the Church does not waste its time discrediting
ARS Bigots. I did not say you used those words. When you say
otherwise, you lie. As the ARS Bigot you have proven yourself to be.
Woody

Rick Sherwood

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Mar 12, 2004, 12:56:27 AM3/12/04
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Truth Seeker wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:34:20 -0500, Rick Sherwood


> <woodn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Truth Seeker wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:01:05 -0500, Rick Sherwood
>>><woodn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Truth Seeker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You said earlier, and I quote: "The Chruch does not waste
>>>>>time discrediting ARS Bigots. Who is the "Chruch" and where did I
>>>>>specifically say that they spent their time discrediting ARS Bigots?
>>>>
>>>> You said "Could this be the operation
>>>>Scientology is running in order to discredit its critics & enemies?" a
>>>
>>>
>>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>Right! I said "discredit its critics & enemies" NOT "ARS Bigots".
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>Your statment was a lie. I said nothing about "ARS Bigots".
>>
>> As usual, ARS Bigots lie
>
>
>

> What ARS Bigots are you talking about?

Go back and read the part you snippec
from my post. Read it until you understand it. Then try and answer
your own question.
Woody

Rick Sherwood

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Mar 12, 2004, 9:19:33 PM3/12/04
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ARS Bigot and proven liar Truth Seeker wrote:

> Dear Reader,
>
>
> Please read the original post in the thread written by "Truth
> Seeker".
Why should anyone waste there time
reading the lies of a proven liar? They can learn the truth about ARS
Bigot and proven liar Turth Seeker by reading the messages listed at the
bottom of my posts. Then they will know the true data.
ARC, Woody

--
See Woody prove that ARS Bigot and Proven Liar "Truth Seeker" is a liar:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=<JYb4c.6759$j05.3...@news20.bellglobal.com>

See ARS Bigot and Proven Liar "Truth Seeker" try to invalidate true data
by hiding it:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=<40514d9e...@news.individual.net>

Curt West

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Mar 13, 2004, 3:26:41 AM3/13/04
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"Rick Sherwood" <woodn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ecu4c.31622$hG.4...@news20.bellglobal.com...

> ARS Bigot and proven liar Truth Seeker wrote:
>
> > Dear Reader,
> >
> >
> > Please read the original post in the thread written by "Truth
> > Seeker".
> Why should anyone waste there time
> reading the lies of a proven liar? They can learn the truth about ARS
> Bigot and proven liar Turth Seeker by reading the messages listed at the
> bottom of my posts. Then they will know the true data.
> ARC, Woody


True data, your spelling sucks.


Truth Seeker

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Mar 16, 2004, 2:17:13 AM3/16/04
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I (Truth Seeker) posted an article about how scientology is
discrediting discredit its critics & enemies. This idiot
scientologist, "Woody" replies stating that scientology does not spend
its time discrediting the "ARS bigots". Nowhere in my article did I
speak about how scientology was trying to discredit any "ARS bigots"
my article was about scientology's CRITICS & ENEMIES. Why would this
idiot scientologist "Woody" mis-duplicate the content of my article,
which was about how scientology is going about discrediting its
critics & enemies by talking about "ARS bigots". Who was talking about
"ARS bigots"? Where in my original article that he was responding to
did I use the words "ARS bigots"?

Here is a copy of the original article. Tell me if you see the
words "ARS bigots" in this article:


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Could this be the operation Scientology is running in order to
discredit its critics & enemies?

They tell a group of members from their own church to pose as
critics & enemies of scientology and then once the outside world is
convinced they are critics & enemies of scientology, they tell them to
behave in a way that discredits themselves and the identity of "critic
of scientology" in front of the world. They have them deliberately
tell lies, talk and act like a nut, say religiously bigoted things and
start name calling like kids would. This in turn will also hurt the
reputations of all the REAL critics of scientology by association.

For example, lets say you wanted to discredit Scientology and
scientologists, how would you go about doing it? It's very simple,
first you would pose as a scientologist as if you're a actor in a
play. Once the world believed you actually were a scientologist you
would then go on to public forums and start saying crazy wacky things
in front of the whole world. Since the world thinks you are a
scientologist they will naturally start thinking scientologists are
crazy & wacky. This is the way to degrade & assassinate the character
of a certain identity, the identity of "scientologist". "Critic of
scientology" is also an identity which can be degraded & discredited
by using the same technique in reverse.

Could this be the same operation Scientology is running in order


to discredit its critics & enemies?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.

Make sure that if you do a search on a title to leave out the
quotation marks:


*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of
Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this
newsgroup"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Do you want to know what a Scientologist really is?"

Rick Sherwood

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Mar 16, 2004, 4:00:38 AM3/16/04
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ARS Bigot and proven liar Truth Seeker wrote:

> I (Truth Seeker) posted an article about how scientology is
> discrediting discredit its critics & enemies. This idiot
> scientologist, "Woody" replies stating that scientology does not spend
> its time discrediting the "ARS bigots". Nowhere in my article did I
> speak about how scientology was trying to discredit any "ARS bigots"
> my article was about scientology's CRITICS & ENEMIES. Why would this
> idiot scientologist "Woody" mis-duplicate the content of my article,
> which was about how scientology is going about discrediting its
> critics & enemies by talking about "ARS bigots". Who was talking about
> "ARS bigots"? Where in my original article that he was responding to
> did I use the words "ARS bigots"?

As usual, ARS Bigot and Proven Liar
Truth Seeker is nonconfront about my questions. Does he explain why he
thinks the Chruch cares about the lies of ARS Bigots or does he waste
his time trying to discredit the person asking the question? Readers
wont be fooled by his cheap rhetorical tricks. They can verify that ARS
Bigot and Proven Liar is a liar by following the links at the end of
this article. Then they can decide for themselves if they want to
believe me, or if they preger to believe an ARS Bigot and Proven Liar (you).

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