Pointing out Cliche usage

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Patchwork Cat Writing

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Mar 28, 2024, 2:52:15 AMMar 28
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Hello, everyone, 

I imagine we all like to be able to write fresh new texts, and not use overused phrases all the time.  The site Prowritingaid has this insanely long list of cliches in English. 

Wouldn't it be a nice feature in yWriter if it had a tool that could point out cliches in your texts? Doesn't even have to give suggestions to alter it into something, but just being able to point out where your text can use some new phrasing would be an amazing tool to have. 

What do you folks think?    

Simon Haynes

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Mar 28, 2024, 3:39:19 AMMar 28
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It does have a similar feature already, and although it's called 'problem words' you could still add phrases

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Patchwork Cat Writing

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Mar 28, 2024, 5:43:54 AMMar 28
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Oh, good to know. Thanks, Simon. 

However, that is adding one word at a time to the program. 
Any way to add 3500 of them in one go? 

Rock Whitehouse

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Mar 29, 2024, 11:07:40 AMMar 29
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This list is stored in the yWriter7.ini file. 

Simon, is there a limit? If not, it seems like an easy Perl task to bulk load her list.

Simon Haynes

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Mar 29, 2024, 11:12:25 AMMar 29
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It might be a bit slow to run but you can certainly try it. 

Rock Whitehouse

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Mar 29, 2024, 12:26:47 PMMar 29
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Cat, if you want to try this, email the list to rock (at sign) iscfleet (dot) com. The portion of the  ini file we're interested in looks like this:

BadWord1,DontSayThis
BadWord10,DontSayThisEither
BadWord11,
...
BadWordReplacement1, SayThisInstead
BadWordReplacement10,NoSayThis
BadWordReplacement11,
...

You can specify replacement test, but it doesn't seem to be required.

I'll send you back the text, but you'll have to insert it into the .ini file.

-Rock

Patchwork Cat Writing

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Mar 31, 2024, 8:08:01 AMMar 31
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Thanks, Rock, 

It'll take a few to build the whole list, but I will happily take you up on the offer. 
It is not to replace all cliches just to point them out so a writer (me) can see where the replacements go. 

By the way, did you know your profile page at rock-whitehouse.com is a tad outdated?  Still showing just one book in your series being available? 

Cheers, 
Cat. 

Rock Whitehouse

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Apr 4, 2024, 8:24:01 PMApr 4
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Yeah that site either needs a makeover or a bulldozer. 

Thanks for reminding me. 

Rock Whitehouse

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Apr 30, 2024, 9:44:15 AMApr 30
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Cat, I have ProWritingAid but never liked it much. yWriter just suits my writing style so much better. 

But I recently downloaded their 'ProWritingAid Everywhere,' and their suggestions now show up in yWriter. (!!)

I haven't seen a cliche yet, but if you have PWA it might be worth checking out. 

Peter Barns

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Apr 30, 2024, 10:29:50 AMApr 30
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I use PRA too and find it really useful, although not infallible.

Pete

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