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MIKE WAIWAI

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Oct 20, 2010, 3:58:37 AM10/20/10
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I have paste Koko Alicks ( Yvsion chairman Vila) email below for you to read and see, i ave also send Joe N email previoulsy. Apart from that mi never luk wan replyment lo email blo ol man ia..istret.
 
Bula Chairman wetem members !!!
 
Mi believe ol studies i oraet lo Fiji !
 
Thankyu tumas lo ol constructive thinkthink we ufala i kivim through lo forum ia and especially u  bro olsem leader blo umi lo suva u letem mifala i save about views blo umi lo fiji about limiting speed.  Wanem we francis and ol nara members oli talem hemi very good !! from hemi soem se discussion blo umi hemi healthy in a sense that since umi save save gud umi and umi gat good relationship finis, hemi isi blo umi save givim signal lo olgeta we oli mestem road lelebet without any negative thinkthink. Mifala i glad tumas that ufala save stap watchem back blo mifala lo ples ia !!!!  Mifala i encouragem kind "STRET" or direct thinkthink olsem blo umi evryone i must applyem lo network blo umi ia blo ol visions blo umi ia bae i foldaon stret lo ples blo hem.
 
Mi wantem letem ufala i save nmo se bae mi fala traem every best blo follem ol directives we ufala remindem mifala bkken lo hem.
 
1)Corcernem account and membership issues bae mfala wait blo ufala kam alle umi discussem how bae umi go about blo mekm(Reason blo mifala bin hariap lo fundraising and account hemi from mfala stap usum truk blo Joe natuman be problem blo fuel so blo encouragem ol members we oli no work yet truck i mas pikimap olgeta)
 
 2) DFA mo Yvision blo kam tugeta. Hemia hemi no confirm yet. mifala i invaetem olgeta blo kam lo fundraising then oli wantem save purpose blo Yvision then after time mifala i xplainem lo olgeta, plante oli look se hemi gud so oli wantem that bae i mas kat wan more meeting blo oli kam save gud. SO ufala no worry taem bae ufala kam bae umi jes lukluk lo hem.
 
3) Weakness blo umi last year.   I true tumas umi bin mekem nois smol taem after umi nmo mekm wan something bkken kasem naoia umi start bakeken. THAT"S WHY UMI NEEDIM EVERYONE BLO WORK TUGETA !! NO RELY LO OL LEADERS  SPOS I NEED BLO REMINDEM OL LO SOME SOMETHING, MEKEM BEFORE HEMI 2LATE AS FAR AS INTEREST BLO Y- VISION HEMI CONCERN !!  
"POINT BLO MI SE EACH ONE LO UMI OLI LEADER".
 
Just blo givim 1 example blo point 3 ia, Lo infos blo ufala Joe , Ruben, Roan and Chris olgeta nao i work hard blo helpem mifala save mekem ol meetings i happen and fundraising. mi olsem chairman mi jest mekem smol work nomo and mi must talem se umi needim umi evryone.  Therefore mi wantem talem thankyu lo squad blo mi lo Vila we oli stap supportem mi lo leadership role ia mi extendem 2 iko lo umi we i stap helpem Mike lo Suva.
 
Anymways, Chairman and members, thankyu tumas blo umi save stap continue blo discussem ol ideas we umi everyone umi believe that one day bae i save helpem umi. Remember the:
 
" A NATION WITHOUT VISION, PEOPLE WILL PERISH " (proverbs)
 
 
Koko Alick @ Emalus Campus
PORT VILA
Vanuatu

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PMB 0954 - 23866
Port Vila
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Joe Pakoa

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Oct 20, 2010, 6:58:13 AM10/20/10
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Dear All,

tankio tumas Mike blo save pasem message blo ol boy lo Vila. hemi gud
blo save se oli understandem ol tinktink blo yumi. And yes hemi gud
blong yumi "nilim nail on the head" because hemi soem se yumi wantem
standard mo values yumi wantem onem mo work wetem, semtaem too buildim
relationship wetem narafala frens blo yumi.

Hemi gud tumas and lets keep it this way.

Ta

Joe

On Oct 20, 12:58 am, MIKE WAIWAI <waiwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have paste Koko Alicks ( Yvsion chairman Vila) email below for you to read
> and see, i ave also send Joe N email previoulsy. Apart from that mi never
> lk wan replyment lo email blo ol man ia..istret.
> *"Whatever the heart of man conceives, the heart of man will achieve" ( Al-
> Ens)*
> **
> *" To God be the glory great things he had done"*
>
> *Mike Waiwai
> Climate Section*
> *Vanuatu Meteorology and*
> *Geo-Hazard Department
> PMB 0954 - 23866
> Port Vila
> Vanuatu*

Kovski Simelum

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Oct 20, 2010, 7:35:49 PM10/20/10
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Thankyou Koko mo ol boy lo Vila blo maintainem unity blo yufala ol Core Team lo wei.  Mifala i glad tumas lo hem.
 Y-vision nomo hemi the only group lo Vanuatu we i able blo function even though sol-wara i blokem umi. Any man we i monitorem yumi, bae i surprise lo blo luk se commitment mo passion blo two-fala core gruops lo Vanuatu mo Fiji semak nomo . Congratulations ol boy!
 
Wetem same tingting mo spirit blo co-operation ia we yumi gat, bae Y-Vision i grow mo develop ikam wan giant we bae ol people blo yumi bae oli benefit lo hem.
 
Vanuatu is in a stage where old systems and methods of thinking do not work anymore. The people of Vanautu are asking BIG SERIOUS questions like:
  1.  Why isn't there better quality students in universites? We now have more mobile phones and internet connections in the islands. Shouldn't these tools cut down the barriers to learning, and therefore help teachers in the islands to improve their students education? What went wrong?
  2. If our economy is doing so well, why are our people in the islands suffering more. If our economy is the best model in the Pacific, why are foods 2 times more expensive in the islands than in Vila? It seems like life in the islands is more expensive and troublesome than in towns. Why? If we are doing well, why does it seem that people in rural areas are suffering more than 10 years ago when our country was said to be still struggling economicly? What went wrong?
    • If our economy is good, shouldn't there be more people in the islands becoming richer and improving in their standard of living? Where has the money gone to. Answer: Ol white Man nomo we oli salem groan lo olgeta bakagen. Money i never reachim ol grass roots. Ol white man oli laugh lo umi ol black man taem umi stap proud blo nating lo economi blo umi we umi no recivim benefit lo hem nating. olgeta nomo oli salem graon between olgeta bakagen.
  3. Who will come up with a well research paper showing a model that can solve these issues? People say the government, some say NGO's but these two groups have been there for a very long time, but still have not come up with new ansers and new techniques to tackle these problems. People have tried going into Politics as a way to help bring solutions but so far, nothing has worked. Who can do it?
YES WE CAN!  Y-VISION can. If we continue to build our capabilities slowly: Law, Management, Banking, Real-Estate, Information Systems, Economics and others, we will be the group that policy makers will turn to for solutions. In a few years time when we are very strong because of our value systems we will be the ones to write policies that will help improve the lives of our people. By that time Y-Vision will be known as the team of a few strong head boys that put their hands up when they were still young and God picked to be the ones to lead the nation when ol olfala sysem inomo work. We can achieve this because God has the solutions and but is waiting only for yumi ol boy blo yumi develop slo slo mo listen gud. No worry lo ol nara man lo ol bigfala position yia. Sopos God i givim solution lo olgeta oli should flatem finis, be hemi no givim, so yumi go isi nomo, bae yumi young yet tiem bae God i givim lo yumi. 
 
 
So maintainem unity lo smol group blo umi, until taem bae i stret bae u luk number blo ol man we bae oli ron blo part lo Y-Vision.
 
 
Regards,
 
 
Francis 
 
 
 
2010/10/20 Joe Pakoa <joep...@gmail.com>
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sum abiut

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Oct 20, 2010, 8:04:21 PM10/20/10
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This is a very factual thought, pointed by Francis. After 30 years of Independence, there are still no signs of development in our islands even when the county's economic is booming like crazy.  

keep the forum warm with comments and encouraging thought that will help drive YVision.

All the best in your studies.
S.A
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MIKE WAIWAI

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Oct 20, 2010, 8:06:18 PM10/20/10
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This is what i want to hear boys keep it up. let keep it hot till we leave fiji for holiday.
 
mcyy

Mike Waiwai

Vanuatu Meteorology and Geoscience Department

Private Mail Bag 9054

Port Vila, Efate, Vanuatu

Ph:+678 24686; Fx: +678 22310

http://www.meteo.gov.vu

 


 

David Talo

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Oct 21, 2010, 12:20:25 AM10/21/10
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Hello team.
I good blo harem about wanem we i stap happen lo vanuatu. And am very greatfull that we are now in one stage, in a sense that we all know what is happening in vila as well as those in vila knows what is happening here in Laucala.
 I see that we now came to a stage where olgeta lo vila oli luk wanem we yumi luk. we all see a destination  that has a  bright futrue for Y- vision and vanuatu as a whole.  Mi very appriciatem that part.yumi stat blo look save rod , which is very encouraging. 
 
 we all have seen the same picture, and have come to the same  conclusion; to better go slow and take into consideration our personal process and development. In that,  our values and priciples wont be violated one day when we become leaders. I mean when we are being recognised. so our individual process is very crucial in the building of Y- vision.
 
Something we France i tallem hemi very true, Sum mo mike tu, tufala i sapotem.
 
 Before we dont realize things that are around us. We are being blinded to see things that are very crucial for the development of vanuatu and for our selves. But when we raise ourselves from our forma menatlity, we began to see things from a different paradyme, from  different lenses, from a different view, that makes us very different from others. That is who we are, and just becouse we got our sight staight from God. So slowly we build on our process and follow the right principles and values.
Remember that your personal development and my development adds up to the development of the whole team and offcourse Y- vision. So in one we build the unity.
 
You guys have a nice time.
 
And keep the ball rolling.
 
Regards.
David.T

DAVID TALO


MIKE WAIWAI

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Oct 21, 2010, 4:00:40 AM10/21/10
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Hi, thanks gangs for so much though that we have shared or discuss so far, yumi stap wait nomo blo yumi karem wan confirmation lo ol boys lo Vila before we meet again. we'll keep on with this fofum till our next meeting.
 
 Anyway, this is a parapol that mi sharem wetem koko mo ol boy lo vila.
Wan Parabol blo ol olfala se Y vision, i just born yestadei nomo, so givim milk lo hem festaim i drink ol kakai we i sopsop, lukaotem gud hem from any sik outside ba i save mekem hem i sik mo  no kivim ol strong kakai lo hem from hemi nogat tut yet ba i no save kakai mo bai i save ded stret away ok, lukaotem gud hemi kasem taim hemi bikwan mo save lukaotem hem wan...Karem woman kivim lo hem mo mekem maret blo hem ( Launchem tingtign ia) .Bai yumi celebrate from smol boy ia oli bin lukaotem gud hem i helti istap kasem i kro bigwan..ol man oli tokbaoutem evrey ples be i kat papa mo mama nomo i bin had wok lo hem...be smol boy i wok mo ikat mani mo helpem fulap ol man ples we oli stap trabol...sapos yu kasem mi istret... bai yumi lukaotem gud smol boy ia.
 
 
Over to you guys. Mathius, Walton and Kensley  and white we wanna hear something from you the ball in on your side..plis make an attempt.
 
cheers boys.
 
Mcyy

Trazac Ham

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Oct 21, 2010, 8:20:08 AM10/21/10
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I guess, everything have been mention...umi must buildem gud
foundation before umi wok i go. Nogud foundation i no strong n tiem
umi stap build i go, everything is collaps and all our effort will be
just a waste......first n foremost, olsem we fulap lo ufala i righly
talem umi must meet watem olgeta lo Vila blo discussem/clarifiem ol
ting ting we bai both parties (Umi watem olgeta lo Vila)i agree mo
look foward blo wok lo hem....
Hem ya nomo smol input we mi savea makem...

Tankio

>>>>> Vanuatu is in a stage where *old systems and methods* of thinking *do
>>>>> not work* anymore. The people of Vanautu are asking BIG SERIOUS
>>>>> questions like:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Why isn't there better quality students in universites? We


>>>>> now have more mobile phones and internet connections in the
>>>>> islands. Shouldn't these tools cut down the barriers to learning,
>>>>> and therefore help teachers in the islands to improve their students
>>>>> education? What went wrong?

>>>>> 2. If our economy is doing so well, why are our people in the


>>>>> islands suffering more. If our economy is the best model in the
>>>>> Pacific, why
>>>>> are foods 2 times more expensive in the islands than in Vila? It
>>>>> seems
>>>>> like life in the islands is more expensive and troublesome than in
>>>>> towns.
>>>>> Why? If we are doing well, why does it seem that people in rural
>>>>> areas are
>>>>> suffering more than 10 years ago when our country was said to be
>>>>> still
>>>>> struggling economicly? What went wrong?

>>>>> - If our economy is good, shouldn't there be more people in the


>>>>> islands becoming richer and improving in their standard of
>>>>> living? Where has
>>>>> the money gone to. Answer: Ol white Man nomo we oli salem groan
>>>>> lo olgeta
>>>>> bakagen. Money i never reachim ol grass roots. Ol white man oli
>>>>> laugh lo umi
>>>>> ol black man taem umi stap proud blo nating lo economi blo umi we
>>>>> umi no
>>>>> recivim benefit lo hem nating. olgeta nomo oli salem graon
>>>>> between olgeta
>>>>> bakagen.

>>>>> 3. Who will come up with a well research paper showing a model that

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Oct 21, 2010, 8:23:42 AM10/21/10
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that was awesome bro,

nice hearing from u guys hope we keep it that way.


Vinaka


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David Talo

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Oct 21, 2010, 5:32:08 PM10/21/10
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Hi team.
 
Me just wantem updatem yumi nomo lo wanem we i been hapen lo time blo fundraising we i been tekem place last week Friday.
Below is an email  from Elzen Tafau(Reuben Tafau) sending it to those present during the Fundraising.
I havent got any permition to post this. But i feel there should be level of transparency with in the team.
 
 

Y-Vision Fundraising Tok Thank you

Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:36 AM
From:
"Ellzen Tafau" <reuben...@gmail.com>
To:
"Karldon Sam" <ks...@vanuatu.gov.vu>
Good day everyone,

On behalf of ol member blo umi lo Y-Vision, mi stap sentem this email
ikam lo yumi evriwan lo subject antap.

Firstly, mi tekem this time blo sentem email ia blo talem BIG fala
thank you iko long yumi evriwan ol boy blo Y-Vision and DFA group we
yumi kam tugeta lo fundraising lo las friday aftanun lo house blo
brata Roan Lester. As information emi go and yumi harem n yumi kam
show up blo mekem Night ia i sakses. Mi save se sam lo yumi oli gat
commitment be smol time ia we yu show up mifala i really appreciatem
mo talem Thank you tumas from.

Secondly, as though yumi managed blo salem gud ol kakae lo fundraising
ia be Kava nomo yumi no manage blo salem out evriwan be mi understand
from emi first fundraising blo yumi so mi hope yumi lanem ol mistake
olsem n bae yumi nomo mekem lo ol next wan we i stap kam.Lo
information blo yumi nomo ol boy, mi wetem Roan i kapsaedem 1 full and
1 half bucket kava iko from umi no mo save manage blo finisim
But anyway, baeyumi nomo save repeatim yumi bakekeb lo next
fundraising lo ol mistake olsem.

Thirdly, amount we yumi manage blo reachem lo fundraising ia emi
olsem; lo saed blo kakae itself yumi manage blo karem 13,410 vatu and
Kava yumi karem 12,830vatu so total we yumi reachem lo fundraising ia
emi up to 26,240 vatu.

Lastly, mi wantem tekem this moment blo yumi nomo bakeken blo talem
tok thank you lo yumi evriwan and wantem blo yumi evriwan i work
tugeta oltaem blo maintainem this strong cooperation, unity,
relationship and leadership amount yumi evriwan
As a saying that sapos umi wantem wan change lo wan high level olsem
we umi stap traem blo targetem, one man ino save mekem change ia be
sapos 1, 2 or 100 man we bae yumi unite and work tugeta oltaem wetem
strong thinktiink and Heart bae yumi save mekem wan change.

So ating emia nomo smol information blo fundraising blo yumi we mi
tekem this time blo announcem lo email today.

Once agian, thank you all

Wish evriwan wan nice day today and from emi fes Napuan this week,
Security and health blo umi wanwan emi very important.

Thank you Tumas

Reuben Tafau

Kovski Simelum

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Oct 21, 2010, 10:42:39 PM10/21/10
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Hello Core Team,
 
Another issue is to identify the Core Team of Vanuatu. Koko identified some main people in his last email. I am assuming that he is identifying those buys as the Core Y-V team from Vila. The boys he mentioned are:
  1. Koko
  2. Joe
  3. Ruben
  4. Roan
  5. Chris
 After clearing this up. We will start to think of how to integrate and connenct them directly to our discussions, so that there would be no need for Mike and David to act as a middle person where they have to email them and then they cut and paste to forward to us. We should discuss this.
 
Throw us your thoughts guys. Is this the correct next step for us to take?
 
 
Regards,
 
 
Francis

David Talo

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Oct 22, 2010, 12:45:00 AM10/22/10
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Hi team.
Yes Francis, i agree with that.
Also that they be part of your discussion.
yah thats a good idia.
 
Regards.

sum abiut

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Oct 22, 2010, 1:02:13 AM10/22/10
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Exactly Guys, i wasn't present at our last  meeting but i don't see any reason of having the middle person here when YVision have an online forum that core members can directly communicate with each other. By the way Koko has already registered to the forum.

Thanks,

S.A
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Walton Kalambae

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Oct 22, 2010, 4:42:50 PM10/22/10
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Hello lo yumi everyone,
Hemi uplifting mo encouraging blo harem ol comments we i kamout lo
yumi lo ples ya( viti) mo ol update lo Vila we Koko i givim. hemi
shoem se yumi stap luk same samting mo stap move lo wan direction.

Again stampa tingting we i stap hemi always relate back bakekn blo
buildem ol values , createm wan culture and wan environment we yumi
core team i mas developem so bae i save allowem unity within yumi so
that together yumi save joinem hands blo confrontem ol systems,
mentalities, and values that oli bin enslavem man vanuatu since
colonial time.
So mi wantem encouragem yumi everyone se personal development blo u
nao bae i plei bigfala role lo overall development blo YVision, from
at the end of the day Y-Vision is not just an organisation but it is
us.

Cheers

Walton.K


On 10/21/10, MIKE WAIWAI <waiw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Vanuatu is in a stage where *old systems and methods* of thinking *do

>>>>> not work* anymore. The people of Vanautu are asking BIG SERIOUS
>>>>> questions like:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Why isn't there better quality students in universites? We


>>>>> now have more mobile phones and internet connections in the
>>>>> islands. Shouldn't these tools cut down the barriers to learning,
>>>>> and therefore help teachers in the islands to improve their students
>>>>> education? What went wrong?

>>>>> 2. If our economy is doing so well, why are our people in the


>>>>> islands suffering more. If our economy is the best model in the
>>>>> Pacific, why
>>>>> are foods 2 times more expensive in the islands than in Vila? It
>>>>> seems
>>>>> like life in the islands is more expensive and troublesome than in
>>>>> towns.
>>>>> Why? If we are doing well, why does it seem that people in rural
>>>>> areas are
>>>>> suffering more than 10 years ago when our country was said to be
>>>>> still
>>>>> struggling economicly? What went wrong?

>>>>> - If our economy is good, shouldn't there be more people in the


>>>>> islands becoming richer and improving in their standard of
>>>>> living? Where has
>>>>> the money gone to. Answer: Ol white Man nomo we oli salem groan
>>>>> lo olgeta
>>>>> bakagen. Money i never reachim ol grass roots. Ol white man oli
>>>>> laugh lo umi
>>>>> ol black man taem umi stap proud blo nating lo economi blo umi we
>>>>> umi no
>>>>> recivim benefit lo hem nating. olgeta nomo oli salem graon
>>>>> between olgeta
>>>>> bakagen.

>>>>> 3. Who will come up with a well research paper showing a model that

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Thanks dave...so whats your intentions here brother can you be specific. You mean ol boy oli kapsaedem Kava or what?? can you come out clear. if this is the case then i think this is the first fundraising and they need to learn a lesson from that...hemia ino money blo YVision but thier own pocket money.
 
Lets not find fault and discuss it please my YVision core Memebers (BOYS) otherwise we find solution to this problems. If we continued to do this this will become more worst. We just talk on that if we meet with our boys in Vanuatu.
 
Thanks
 
Mcyy
 

 
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, David Talo <david...@gmail.com> wrote:

Trazac Ham

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Thank you Dave for the update on the Fundraising....at least oli makem
some money in contribution towards Y vision.

oh yes Mike, ating point ya we u raisem i very important....ol smol
smol somthing ol same i savea createm disunity lo Y-vision members.
Lets on all learn & build from each other to achieve our goals/dreams

Ta

>>>>>>> Vanuatu is in a stage where *old systems and methods* of thinking *do

>>>>>>> not work* anymore. The people of Vanautu are asking BIG SERIOUS
>>>>>>> questions like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Why isn't there better quality students in universites? We


>>>>>>> now have more mobile phones and internet connections in the
>>>>>>> islands. Shouldn't these tools cut down the barriers to learning,
>>>>>>> and therefore help teachers in the islands to improve their
>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>> education? What went wrong?

>>>>>>> 2. If our economy is doing so well, why are our people in the


>>>>>>> islands suffering more. If our economy is the best model in the
>>>>>>> Pacific, why
>>>>>>> are foods 2 times more expensive in the islands than in Vila? It
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> like life in the islands is more expensive and troublesome than in
>>>>>>> towns.
>>>>>>> Why? If we are doing well, why does it seem that people in rural
>>>>>>> areas are
>>>>>>> suffering more than 10 years ago when our country was said to be
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> struggling economicly? What went wrong?

>>>>>>> - If our economy is good, shouldn't there be more people in the


>>>>>>> islands becoming richer and improving in their standard of
>>>>>>> living? Where has
>>>>>>> the money gone to. Answer: Ol white Man nomo we oli salem groan
>>>>>>> lo olgeta
>>>>>>> bakagen. Money i never reachim ol grass roots. Ol white man oli
>>>>>>> laugh lo umi
>>>>>>> ol black man taem umi stap proud blo nating lo economi blo umi
>>>>>>> we umi no
>>>>>>> recivim benefit lo hem nating. olgeta nomo oli salem graon
>>>>>>> between olgeta
>>>>>>> bakagen.

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Hi team.
Thank you Mike for your  question.
I think there must be a miss understanding on the article that was currently  discussed
 The article that i posted in the forum was an email that was sent by Rueben to all Y-vision members that were present in the fundraising.Some how i was also included in their contact list. 
But the reason of posting that email article was just to get us all up dated on our first fundraising. I think there has been some information earler on about the fundraising and the information that we recieved, was incorrect about the amount that was raised. Thats why when i see the email detailing everything from the fundraising night, i felt that its better to share the email with the core team. In other words am saying our first update on the amount of money raised was incorrect( which is 2300vt) as some of us may have known.
 Another intention of sharing the email, was the idea of Transparency. I havent seek any permission with the team in vila.Despite that, i just feel that it would be right for all of us to know about it since we are in the same boat. It would be much better for them to update us on that, through email or forum so that everyone knows what is happening. Or one suggestion is that our head or the middle person  should make sure that every information that we recieved has to be accurate, correct and meaningfull, so that there wont be any misunderstanding and confusion. This is concerning the first information that we recieved.
 Well there is no reason for  us to argue about the email, but to see behind the the information that we gathered. With that, i thank you Mike and Trazac about your comment on the leftover kava that was wasted. 
What i could capture from that, is  about the  low level of relationship,communication and planning.  If everyone has a good relationship, they would know about their friends, weather he drinks alot of kava, drinks kava only in a few times or does not drink kava at all. Then they would come out with a good estimation of how many liters of kava they would need to sustain those who drink kava. This also comes with the level of communication. Ol getta we oli responsible lo kava must have assumed that there will be alot of people who can drinks alot of kava will also come for the fundraising night, especially their friends whom they know fews months or years ago. But oli no mekem effort  blo finem out weather oli still drink kava or no. some oli might stop blo drink kava finis, or just that oli no might blo mekem lo time blo fundraising from oli gat other important commitments. Wetem assumption that ol frens blo olgeta we oli save drink kava, bai oli kam, oli tend blo mekem huge  amount of kava. But at the end of it, the assumtion turns out to be opposite.
If only they have a good relationship and communication, their planning would have been accurate. Thats what is see.
Please throw in your comments or correction, if there is any. We are hear to learn.
Your guys have a nice time.
 
Regards.
David.

Trazac Ham

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Noted & thanks Dav for that clarification.

All have a pleasant evening

Kenz

>>>>>>>> Vanuatu is in a stage where *old systems and methods* of thinking
>>>>>>>> *do

>>>>>>>> not work* anymore. The people of Vanautu are asking BIG SERIOUS
>>>>>>>> questions like:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Why isn't there better quality students in universites? We


>>>>>>>> now have more mobile phones and internet connections in the
>>>>>>>> islands. Shouldn't these tools cut down the barriers to learning,
>>>>>>>> and therefore help teachers in the islands to improve their
>>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>>> education? What went wrong?

>>>>>>>> 2. If our economy is doing so well, why are our people in the


>>>>>>>> islands suffering more. If our economy is the best model in the
>>>>>>>> Pacific, why
>>>>>>>> are foods 2 times more expensive in the islands than in Vila? It
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> like life in the islands is more expensive and troublesome than
>>>>>>>> in towns.
>>>>>>>> Why? If we are doing well, why does it seem that people in rural
>>>>>>>> areas are
>>>>>>>> suffering more than 10 years ago when our country was said to be
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> struggling economicly? What went wrong?

>>>>>>>> - If our economy is good, shouldn't there be more people in


>>>>>>>> the islands becoming richer and improving in their standard of
>>>>>>>> living? Where
>>>>>>>> has the money gone to. Answer: Ol white Man nomo we oli salem
>>>>>>>> groan lo
>>>>>>>> olgeta bakagen. Money i never reachim ol grass roots. Ol white
>>>>>>>> man oli laugh
>>>>>>>> lo umi ol black man taem umi stap proud blo nating lo economi
>>>>>>>> blo umi we umi
>>>>>>>> no recivim benefit lo hem nating. olgeta nomo oli salem graon
>>>>>>>> between olgeta
>>>>>>>> bakagen.

>>>>>>>> 3. Who will come up with a well research paper showing a model

>>>>>>>>> yvisionadmin...@googlegroups.com<yvisionadmin%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>


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