Fwd: mail debate on Telangana
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Date: Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: mail debate on Telangana
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a mail debate between a Pro-Telangana and a Pro-United Andhra Pradesh.. share your views as well..
Comments ARE DIVIDED AS [ANDHRA][TELANGANA]
[TELANGANA] Telangana was a separate state until 1956.
[ANDHRA]India is under Britishers' rule before 1947. So what
[TELANGANA]
So what means you are not able to understand..... You guys came from (Madras)where presidency rule came ....
you had good education ... In T-Region we have NIZAMS .. who created DORAS .. who used to grab the land and all were slaves to them ...
That the reason Naxlas came into picture ...
[TELANGANA] In-Telangana area people got used to using Telangana share of water, jobs, political power, so if Telangana created, they are worried about losing these.
[ANDHRA]
Many Telangana People are working abroad including many from our own families, What if those countries say "You are not from our country, Go back to your Andhra Pradesh? So, all the NRIs who are holding gatherings in USA are willing to leave USA right away, come and settle back in Hyderabad? How many will do it today ? ZERO.. ZERO.. ZERO.. We all want our luxuries, we won't leave our luxuries, but we are ready to go and put clashes among the peaceful Andhra Pradesh people from USA. Great.."
[TELANGANA]
Dear if we don’t want T-state then why the potti sri ramulu made you separate from MADRAS ...
What happened to your unity at that time ....??????
Why were you divided from MADRAS...?????????
WHO TOLD YOU PEOPLE TO LEAVE HYDERABAD.... TRS IS NOT DOING WHAT RAJ TAKERY IS DOING IN MUMBAI....
YOU EXAMPLE IS INCORRECT ......HYDERABAD DONT NOT BELONG TO ANY ONE PERSON ...
BUT HYDERABAD IS IN TELANGANA AND THE GOVT JOBS ARE MEANT FOR LOCALS AND NOT FOR ANDHRA .....
1)
[TELANGANA]
Go to any state govt office in Hyderabad itself, more than 90% of non-Telangana employees, due 2 political domination by Non-Telangana. So no major project in Telangana inspite of 55% total AP tax from Telangana
[ANDHRA]
"Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa? mari chadvukoni Jobs techhukunna valla meeda kadupu manta enduku? All those people are (if this 90% is not exaggeration) in their jobs being the People of Andhra Pradesh, not being the people of some other state and come and loot the jobs of some other state. All are the people of Andhra Pradesh"
[TELANGANA]
THIS CONCEPT IS NOT APPLICABLE HERE ....IF I TAKE A NICE EXAMPLE YOU WILL NOT ABLE TO BARE THAT....
EDUCATION..WATER ...AGRICULTURE WAS A PROBLEM IN TELANGANA ...FROM PAST 50 YEARS ...
ALL THE PEOPLE USED TO GO TO DUBAI FOR 10,000 RUPEES PER MONTH KOOLIES....
MIMIMUM OF 20,000 PEOPLE OF TELANAGA WHO WENT DUE TO LACK OF WATER AND AGRICULTRUE ARE IN JAILS OF ARABIC COUNTRIES....
""""Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa? concePT example ?""""
SOME BODY WHO IS STRONG COMES TO YOUR HOME AND TELL YOU I HAVE MORE STRENGHT AND KICKS YOU AND TELL YOU
"Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa"
AND ASK ALL THE PROPERTY RIGHTS FROM YOU ? DO U AGREEEE ??????????????????????????????????????????????
YOU WIL DIE FOR THAT RIGHT ?????? THE SAME TELANGANAA IS DONG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT’S ALLL ABOUT STRENGHT DEAR? YOU CANT EXPLIOT THAT ... YOUR YSR,NCB ALL HAVE EXPLOITED THAT ......
2) [TELANGANA] Two major rivers pass through Telangana, no major irrigation project in Telangana.
[ANDHRA]
Whose fault is this? all these 50 years Telangana don't have any MLAs, MPs, Ministers? So, what all these leaders from Telangana are doing? Taagi tongunnaara? Ok, If you say No, then why didn't we hold their collars and asked where is the development in Telangana? Aren't there any backward places in Andhra Pradesh other than Telangana?
[TELANGANA]
YES WE HAVE MLA , MPS WHO SLAVES TO YSR ,NCB ALL THESE DAYS ...... ONE THING BOSSSSSSS...
TELL ME ONE THING IF YOUR ARE INTO SOFTWARE.. WILL YOU CROSS THE WORDS OF THE PM OR ANY HEAD IF HE SAYS NOOOO.....
THE SAME THING HAPPENED HERE.....
""""In Election 2009 there are two dates for election in Telangana 16-Apr-2009 (Thursday) and in Andhra 23-Apr-2009 (Thursday)
You hot favourite YSR at 04:00PM spoke anti-Telangana on 16 Aprl in kurnool region after the votes have being posted in the Telangana region """
YSR WON ...... BUT GOD IS THERE ..... KUKKAAAAA CHAVVUUUUUU ... KUUUUKKAAAA SAVUUUU .....
NAXALS KI CHESINAAA ANAYAMAM ... TELANGANA KI CHESII PAPAM ..... CHOPPER INCIDENT ....
I DONT SAY KCR OR MLAS , MPS ARE T-STATE ARE GOOODDD .... TELL ME ONE THING IN THESE DAYS WHO IS NOT SELFISH ...
EAT WHAT EVER THEY WANT ... BUT ALTEAST 40% GOOD THINGS ARE ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE ......
THAT WHY WE WANT OUR STATE .....
3) [TELANGANA] No Telangana CM allowed 2 continue for more then 2 yrs in AP.
[ANDHRA]
Allowed? Who need to Allow them? Their removal is due to the reason that they are from Telangana? Oh! Come on..
[TELANGANA]
WHAT COME ON ? HE IS SAYING EXPLOITION IS HAPPENED HERE ... WHEN TELANGANA IS MERGED WITH ANDHRA ...
THERE WAS A AGREEMENT TELLING THAT A DEPUTY CM SHOULD BE THERE FROM TELANGANA ......
THERE ARE also exploited from andhra leaders ......the strenght of andhra leaders are more and one from that party is becomming has the head ....
4) [TELANGANA] Hyd was capital of Telangana for last 400 years before merging it with AP state. Who built Assembly? High Court? Hussain Sagar?
[ANDHRA]
If this is logic to ask, then don't worry, NIZAM's family members are still living in Hyderabad, Give it to them.
[TELANGANA]
IF THAT IS THE SAME WILL WE GIVE ALL OUR RAILWAYS PROFITS TO BRITISH NOW .......
EVEN IN YOU VIJIWADA ALL ARE NOT BUILD BY YOUR LEADERS .......
HE MEANT TO SAY THAT ... YOU ANDHRA SAY THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPED THE HYDERABAD ... BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE .....
YOUR KURNOOL CAPTIAL IS FIT FOR NOTHING AND THE BUSTARD ANDHRA LEADER CHOSSED HYDERABAD AS CAPTIAL ... BECAUSE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTRE IS ALREADY BUILT IN ....
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1562 hussain sagar lake, 1578 poorana pool 1589 Charminar, Gulzar house,
1803 sultan shahi tank, 1805 miralam tank, 1808 koti womens college (British residency)
1828 chandulal bardari, 1862 GPO post office 1873 public garden Bombay-secbad railway line 1874 Nizams railway,
1884 chanchal guda jail, 1883 nampally railway station 1885 telephone lines (first in
India) 1890 nizam observatory (birla pametorium) 1927 himayat sagar(gandipet) ayurvedic hospital ,1920 high court , 1930 first cement roads for the length of 300Km,
Educational institutions. .
1856 Darul uloom school, chaderghat school, alia school,
1884 Mahboobia college ,1887 nampally girls college, 1890 ,1894 asifia high school medical college, 1890 girls college chader ghat,
1904 VV school Jambagh, 1910 Mahboobia girls college gunfoundry, 1920 osmania university, city college, 1921 osmania medical college,
1923 hyderbad public school, 1924 marwadi hindi vidyalaya,
1926 secunderbad hindi mahavidyalaya, 1930 physical education college,
1946 college of veterinary science,
Medical institutions
1890 ayurvedic college, unani college, 1894 medical college osmania, 1897 mental hospital, 1905 victoria memorial hospital, 1916 homeo pathy college, 1945 niloufer children hospital, TB hospital (SR Nagar), Cancer hospital, NIMS, Gandhi hospital,
Industries,
1873, first spinning mill lower tank bund,
1876 govt printing press, ordinance factory
1919 VST RTC X road,
1932 RTC,
1921 chemical factory, 1942 State bank of Hyderabad, allwyn metals,
1943 praga tools, 1946 hyderbad asbestos,
1947 hyderbad laminations.
1932 ALL INDIA RADIO .
1944 IICT,
1932 NGRI
1898 survey of India UPPAL
Even DRDO institutions were established before 1956.
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THE ABOVE ARE THE THINGS ALREADY PRESENT IN HYDERABAD .... WHAT THE HECK ANDHRA HAVE DID TO HYDERABAD .....?????
5) [TELANGANA] Some Businesses built by Non-Telangana people are for their own profit, not for developing Telangana.
[ANDHRA]
It is not where you built the business, It is who built that business. anyway, they are all not from USA, UK came here and built their businesses and making money. They all are part of our state Andhra Pradesh.
many telangana leaders also doing business all over India.
[TELANGANA]
I ACCPET YOU POINT .. BUT OUR INTENSION WHY THE HELD THE LEADERS NOT DEVELOPING IN TELANGANA .....
NOTE: HYDERABAD ONLY IS NOT TELANGANA .... VIJAWADA ..VIZAG ARE DEVELOPING SOON WITH THE MONEY , TAXES WHICH YOU GET FROM HYDERABAD ...
TELL ME THE ANSWER TO THIS
"
From Kuddapa to pullivendala there is a 4 liner road ...worth of 200 Cores ... its ok because its YSR home town
why again a four liner from Pullivendala to IdupulaiaPalla(YSR estate)again some X crores ?
"
iS THIS NECASSARY ? WHERE YOU GOT THIS MUCH MONEY FROM YOUR ANDHRA ? FROM ANDHRA PRADESH RIGHT ? MEANS FROM TELANGANA ALSO RIGHT ?????
OTHER THAN WARANGAL DO U SEE ANY OTHER PLACE WHERE WE HAVE GOOD RAIWALYS IN T-REGIONS ?????
WHY CANT THESE MONEY SPEND HERE ??????????????????????
6) [TELANGANA] Few Non-Telangana politicians for their Real estate business interests and other personal gains, opposing Telangana state.
[ANDHRA]
Put the personal gains aside, and let us think like people of United Andhra. Personal interests will be there always. who doesn't have? How sure we are that these so called Telangana leaders doesn't have their personal gains involved and personal dreams involved in their politics?
[TELANGANA]
YES 100% AGREE ..
YSR bought his son JAGAN…
NCB bought his son-in-law jr ntr
KCR bought his son KTR,Harish …
yes we also want gains to our leaders AND OUR PEOPLE .......
OUR TELANAGANA PEOPLE ARE MISSING THAT ....
7) [TELANGANA] If Telangana created, none of Non-Telangana people will have any problem for their business or houses or jobs if they are alreadyliving in Telangana/Hyderabad.
[ANDHRA]
Hahaha.. Good Joke.. I will build my house in the middle of Settlers' house (day before yester day KCR), Telangana wala Jaago, Andhra wala Bhaago (KCR today), Shahar hamara, Ghar bhi Hamara, Poora Hamaara (KCR tomorrow)
Who can give assurance on the safety and security of those families who made hyderabad or any other place in Telangana their home? What if Old City Muslims say Hyderabad is our Nizams, people from other telangana districts get lost? "WHAT IF SAME FORMULA WHAT PRO TELANGANA GUYS ASKING TODAY, WILL HIT BACK TO THEM TOMORROW BY HYDERABADI MUSLIMS?
[TELANGANA]
HELLO DEAR , IN HYDERABAD YOU ARE ONLY FROM KUTATPALLY .. MANY OTHER PEOLPE FROM OTHER STATE ARE IN HYDERABAD ....
KCR IS A STUPID .... TELANGANA =KCR = TELANGANA THIS IS NOT TRUE ......
THERE ARE MANY LEADERS WHO WILL STOP HIS MADNESS ...
YOUR FORUMULA ASSUMPTION IS WRONG .....
NIZAM= TELANGANA = NIZAM ....
IF YOU DO OVER ACTION .. MUSLIMS WILL REVOLT AGANIST ANDHRA .. AND KICK YOU OUT ... DONT ACT TOO SMART ...
8) [TELANGANA] Lots of Telugus stay in Bangalore, do business there, is it justified to ask for Bangalore in AP?
[ANDHRA]
Lots of telugu people live in Bangalore. Is it Justified if Karnataka Government throw them away over night from BANGALORE AND KARNATAKA?
[TELANGANA]
WHO TOLD YOU TO GO OUT .....SEE WHAT IS THE ANDHRAS FEELING NOW ...
THEY ARE TELLING HYDERABAD IS YOUR ... THATS IS WRONG WE ARE TELLING ... HYDERABAD IS OURS ....
9) [TELANGANA] Naxalism is just a reason for the other area leaders to oppose Telangana. Telangana will have more benefits even with Naxalism ifseparate state is created, Telangana will have lot of funds and can start major irrigation projects
[ANDHRA]
Naxalism is every where. start from Khammam until srikakulam. If our reasoning is TELANGANA people are dying to live, then from where the said 55% taxes are coming from Telangana people's pockets? are people from all regions of AP who are living in Hyderabad are paying taxes on Telangana region behalf as well? What if all those businesses, knowledge, people, resources left Telangana the moment we divide the state? they may loose in the beginning by shifting their businesses to their own regions, but at the end they will gain and we are the one loose. Then we all go to those towns looking for Jobs and they will chase us with stones and sticks the way we are doing today. Is that sounds cool?
[TELANGANA]
ALL THESE DAYS WE ARE LOOSING .... WHO TOLD THE BUSSINESS IN HYDERABAD WILL HALUT FOR ANDHRAS ... THAT IS WRONG ....
If we can get those irrigation projects, those projects should have come by now. 50 years is not a small period. So, blame our leaders who are asking for separate state today, by asking them what exactly they have done for the region so far..
"blame our leaders "IN THIS 50 YEARS ONLY 5 YEARS TELANGANA HAVE RULED THE STATE ....
ALL THIS CREDIT GOES TO ANDHRA LEADERS ... NTR ,NCB,YSRRRR
[ANDHRA]
PLEASE GUYS.. OURS is a state for TELUGU people. Let all the TELUGUS stay united. Don't bring in the dangerous separatism which britishers did hundred years ago.
If we say Telangana today, tomorrow some other GANAA.. day after tomorrow some other GAANAA.. this will continue. within a day after chidambaram announcement, already 10 demands came forseparate states. If this continues, very soon some of the Indian states will Join PAKISTAN, some CHINA and some AFGHANISTHAN..
Be united, get special packages for the backward regions and let us develop the state together, don't bring in fights between brothers and sisters.
[TELANGANA]
HELLO DEAR , THINK POSITEVLY
WHY CANT YOU TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF USA .....
USA IS 1/3 OF INDIA ..THEY HAVE 50 STATES .. WHY CANT WE HAVE 29 STATES ...
WHY YOU ARE SAYING "UNITED "EVERY TIME ... IF THAT IS YOU POINT ....
WHY 28 STATES IN INDIA ... WE ALL GET UNITED AND CAN DO MARICLES ???? DOES THIS SOUNDS GOOD ?FOOLISHNESS RIGHT ???
SAME THING WE ALSO FEEL IF YOU SAY UNITED NOW ....LOTS OF EXPLOITIONS .......
MAHABUBNAR IS NEAR IS KRISHINA .... AND EVERY TIME ...NO WATER AND FOOD IN THAT DISTRICT ...
[ANDHRA]
If people really want telangana, BJP & TRS should have won the elections in 2009 six months ago, If really people of telangana want telangana, KCR baajaapthu gaa 20 rojula kritham GHMC lo contest chese vaadu.
TELANGANA CONGRESS LEADERS ARE THE SICKENING B*S*RDS who are encouraging all these things from behind the scene as they all are wearing bangles of SONIA GANDHI.
[TELANGANA]
Telangana People did not voted aganist Telangana …. For us KCR is not Telangana ….
If KCR dies …1000 KCRS will take birth from telangana ….
Please analyis this in 2004 general elections Congress YSR , Sonia told that they are not aganist telangana …
Similarly TDP told that they are they are also not aganist telanagana … so the votes have being divided in telangana …
..
Similarly in 2009 election also TRS have alligned with your favourite NCB …At that time also Congress cheif came to
hyderabad … in secenderabad ground she told ahe will take a right decission in right time ….
the reason why your NCB joined with TRS is for votes in telangana ….Even Chiru PRP told if bill is passed in telangana
we are ready .. i remember he told this words in peddapelly ..karimnagar Dist ..
In Election 2009 there are two dates for election in Telangana 16-Apr-2009 (Thursday) and in Andhra 23-Apr-2009 (Thursday)
You hot favourite YSR at 04:00PM spoke anti-Telangana on 16 Aprl in kurnool region after the votes have being posted
in the Telangana region
What is doing here boss ?????
[ANDHRA]
BJP is trying to regain some IMAGE as KCR is trying desperately so that they can put the Congress state Government in deep trouble and by doing so, demands all over India will raise forseparate state to which congress won't say YES right away, and they can take it to their advantage in those states by saying "ONE VOTE - TWO STATES".
Wake up guys, wake up..[fIRST YOU WAKE UP ...] don't buy the stories of Separatists (specially TELANGANA leaders irrespective of party. Some of the TDP telangana leaders are the main reason for all this situation especially in TDP. they forced until TDP join hands with TRS and by doing so they made TDP hands dirty too. at least now, let us clean our hands and souls. It is better late than never.)
IF WE CONTINUE TO WRITE, FOR DAYS WE CAN WRITE OUR DIRTY REALITIES. BUT ARGUMENTS ARE OF NO USE. LET US STOP FIGHTING AND LET US START REBUILDING. WE HEARD TELANGANA LEADERS ARE TRYING TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE HEAT GOES DOWN AND START THE WHOLE THING AGAIN AFTER A YEAR OR TWO. WE HAVE TO FORGET SEPARATING FOREVER, IF NOT, NO INVESTOR WILL COME TO ANDHRA PRADESH AS HE DOESN'T KNOW IN WHICH STATE HIS BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE, WHAT WILL BE THE ECONOMIC POSITION OF THAT STATE AND FOR HOW LONG THAT PARTICULAR STATE IS GOING TO BE A STATE BEFORE SOME OTHERSEPARATE STATE MOVEMENT COMES
[TELANGANA]
WE WILL NOT STOP DISCUSSION OR SEPERATION ...... JAI TELANGANA ...JAI JAI TELANGANA .......
TELL ME WHY YSR DID THIS ???????????
In Election 2009 there are two dates for election in Telangana 16-Apr-2009 (Thursday) and in Andhra 23-Apr-2009 (Thursday)
You hot favourite YSR BY SEEING WATCH at 04:00PM spoke anti-Telangana on 16 Aprl in kurnool region after the votes have being posted
in the Telangana region???????
THIS IS GETTING VOTES BY CRITISING TELANGANA ??? BUT HE DID NOT SPOKE A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THAT IN PAST ....
GOD IS THERE !!!
Regards,
Praveen