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Hany Amer

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Dec 24, 2012, 6:48:14 AM12/24/12
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Assalamu alaikum,
Very good example of how quickly something taken out of context can spread. Below article in the SMH and also made the front page of the Sun Herald. 
The LMA published a statement to clarify and also had "Merry Xmas" message written in the sky above the mosque however I'm sure you would agree it's publicity we could have done without at this time of year. 
Wassalam
Hany

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From: Hany Amer <hany...@me.com>
Date: 23 December 2012 7:04:12 GMT+08:00
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Subject: Re: [mediastratnet:519] No merriness here: mosque puts fatwa on Christmas | smh.com.au

AA...just spoke to Samir. 
Sh Yahya departed for Palestine this morning. 
Samir will review comments and respond. 
Khaled - suggest in the meantime we repeat the comments/line of Dr Ibrahim. 
Salam
Hany

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On 23/12/2012, at 9:57, khaled.s...@gmail.com <khaled.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been called a few times from ABC ans unknown callers which I didn't answer or comment.

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Wsalam,

Context missing.
I think we should relax and wait to see how big it gets. If the story dies then ignore it. 



On 23/12/2012, at 8:11 AM, Miriam Silva <miriam....@gmail.com> wrote:

Salaams Worth reading the whole article before you respond

The religious ruling, which followed a similar lecture during Friday prayers at Australia's biggest mosque, was posted on its Facebook site on Saturday morning.

The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with Christmas.

Samir Dandan, the president of the Lebanese Muslim Association, which oversees the mosque, could not be reached for comment on Saturday.

The fatwa, which has sparked widespread community debate and condemnation, warns that the "disbelievers are trying to draw Muslims away from the straight path".

It also says that Christmas Day and associated celebrations are among the "falsehoods that a Muslim should avoid ... and therefore, a Muslim is neither allowed to celebrate the Christmas Day nor is he allowed to congratulate them".

The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders. The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.

"Anyone who says otherwise is speaking irresponsibly," he said.

"There is difference between showing respect for someone's belief and sharing those beliefs," Dr Ibrahim said.

Dr Ibrahim said the views did not represent the majority of Muslims in Australia. "We are required to have good relations with all people, and to congratulate them on their joyous events is very important."

The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a "Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or committing fornication or adultery”.

A community leader, Dr Jamal Rifi, said he did not agree with the school of thought behind the fatwa.

"We can share the festivities with friends and families and neighbours – I don't think there is any civil, religious or ethical reason not to," he said.

Dr Rifi and Sheikh Youssef Nabha, the imam of the Kingsgrove Mosque, are travelling to Nauru on Sunday night with priests from the Maronite and Melkite churches in Sydney to attend Christmas celebrations with the asylum seekers held there.

Dr Rifi said he and Sheikh Youssef would be distributing Christmas cards during the visit.

A community advocate and Muslim convert, Rebecca Kay, told Fairfax Media: "It's sad to see the Lebanese Muslim Association, which considers itself the peak body representing Australian Muslims, with comments like these. It goes to show how far they are from representing the community.

"The notion that Muslims wishing other people a merry Christmas will take them out of their faith is outright ridiculous, laughable and borders on the extreme."

Keysar Trad, a former official with the Lebanese Muslim Association, said in his time with the organisation they used to regularly greet people with merry Christmas. "I don't know what has changed," he said. "But now as a representative of Australia's peak Muslim body, the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, I would like to wish all your readers a merry Christmas and a happy new year."


Kind Regards 
Miriam

On 23/12/2012, at 7:33 AM, Khaled Sukkarieh <khaled.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Salam
ABC Radio just woke me up to tell me this.
how should I respond.
 who should they speak to?
I am on holidays in Brisbane.

They will be calling me back for a grab.


On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Z. Matthews (JMA) <z...@justmediaadvocacy.com.au> wrote:
No merriness here: mosque puts fatwa on Christmas
Natalie O'Brien December 23, 2012

Fatwa ... The head imam at Lakemba Mosque has told the congregation they should not participate in anything to do with Christmas. Photo: Kate Geraghty
The religious ruling, which followed a similar lecture during Friday prayers at Australia's biggest mosque, was posted on its Facebook site on Saturday morning.
The head imam at Lakemba, Sheikh Yahya Safi, had told the congregation during prayers that they should not take part in anything to do with Christmas.
Samir Dandan, the president of the Lebanese Muslim Association, which oversees the mosque, could not be reached for comment on Saturday.
The fatwa, which has sparked widespread community debate and condemnation, warns that the "disbelievers are trying to draw Muslims away from the straight path".
It also says that Christmas Day and associated celebrations are among the "falsehoods that a Muslim should avoid ... and therefore, a Muslim is neither allowed to celebrate the Christmas Day nor is he allowed to congratulate them".
The posting of the fatwa has shocked many Muslim leaders. The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said the foundations of Islam were peace, co-operation, respect and holding others in esteem.
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html

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Sheri

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Dec 24, 2012, 4:14:34 PM12/24/12
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Alalikom esalam,

Not sure why the Muslim community had to go over the top with the sky scraper. Seriously our religion isn't the only one that don't celebrate Christmas - hindu's, Jews, many Christians too only celebrate the festivities not the religious aspect.

Whether Muslims or anyone do or don't want to wish people a merry Christmas is their business, not wishing someone a merry Xmas doesn't affect/ harm anyone else. 

I think we are falling into the trap of constantlyyyy being in defensive/ damage control. 

That's my 2 cents ho ho ho !

Salams,
S


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Hany Amer

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Dec 25, 2012, 12:21:19 AM12/25/12
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Assalamu alaikum,

Every opinion is welcome and respected alhamdullilah. Perhaps the sky jet was "over the top" or not necessary however need to correct you. It was reported on the front page of the Sun Herald that a fatwa had been issued forbidding muslims to wish anyone a merry Xmas. The SMH also reported it, channel 7 was on stand by at the mosque & ABC were contacting Muslim leaders for comment. 
The story broke & needed decisive action to stop it in its tracks, where I think we all agree it needed to be.
Agree it's a non issue but it was a real issue requiring action to stop it causing more anti-Muslim sentiment at a highly visible Christian religious time. Again as I said earlier, we cannot accept well wishes during our religious occasions and not return it for others.
May Allah guide us always to make the right decisions that please him inshallah. 
Wassalam
Hany



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