Yeah, Been a long 70km ride so far.
Anybody game for Zafarani Baddam Pista ?
On Oct 25, 2:27 am, "nagin chand" <
now...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> All of us need an ICE-CREAM break.
>
> Nagin Chand
> -
>
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:26:44 +0530 wrote
> >
> >Dear Safal,
> >In case you jump back and dispute the CP to YEW Interchange distance
> >(may be due to some browser problem in your PC). Let me put the
> >driving directions for you as well.
> >
> >Driving directions to Noida Greater Noida Express Way - Service Ln
> >38.7 km –about 44 mins
> >Via Noida Greater Noida Express Way - remove
> >Suggested routes
> >
> >
> >
> >Connaught Place
> >New Delhi, Delhi, India
> >1.Head northeast toward Radial Road 4
> >0.4 km
> >2.Turn left at Radial No 7
> >0.2 km
> >3.At the roundabout, take the 4th exit onto Janpath
> >1.4 km
> >4.At the roundabout, take the 2nd exit onto Ashoka Rd
> >Go through 1 roundabout
> >
> >1.1 km
> >5.Slight left at India Gate C-Hexagon
> >1.2 km
> >6.Turn left at Dr Zakir Hussain Marg
> >2.1 km
> >7.At the roundabout, take the 2nd exit onto Mathura Rd
> >2.8 km
> >8.Turn left at NH 2
> >1.0 km
> >9.Slight right at Noida Toll Bridge
> >5.1 km
> >10.Take the exit toward Dadri Rd
> >0.4 km
> >11.Slight left at Dadri Rd
> >2.5 km
> >12.Continue onto Noida Greater Noida Express Way
> >20.2 km
> >13.Slight right at Noida Greater Noida Express Way - Service Ln
> >0.4 km
> >
> >Noida Greater Noida Express Way - Service Ln
> >------------------------------------------------
> >I am sound very very pesimmistic for you because I represent NORMAL
> >person of our society (not part of any rat race where none of the rat
> >wins). You may find driving 200 Kms daily, normal for you however this
> >doesn't suit NORMAL folks like me. One of primary reason is FINANCIAL:
> >DAILY TOLL CHARGES = RS 80 YEW + RS 50 (DND) = RS 150.00 (TAKING 5
> >YEAR INFLATED RATE).
> >DAILY PETROL EXPENSE = RS 600 @ RS 50.00 / L.
> >---------------------------------------------------
> >RS 750.00 IS YOUR DAILY COMMUTING EXPENSE.
> >---------------------------------------------------
> >ADD CAR REPLACEMENT EVERY 5 YEARS.
> >-------------------------------------------------
> >
> >I rest my case here, unless you dispute my numbers again.
> >
> >Take care,
> >Arnab M
> >
> >
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> >On Oct 25, 12:28 am, ArnabMukherjee wrote:
> >> Dear Safal,
> >> You started to nickel and dime things over here. I gave you the map co-
> >> ordinates exactly for the reason that I did not include Pari-Chowk in
> >> the picture. I mentioned the word YEW-InterChange.
> >> I am putting the numbers again, so that we don't confuse anyone:
> >>
> >> CP To YEW (interchange - before Pari Chowk) - 39 Kms (Shortest
> >> Route).
> >> YEW (Inter-Change) TO Sector 20 (Inter-Change) = 20 Kms
> >> Add 1 or 2 kms for interchange clover turns in few places.
> >> Add another 7-10 kms to your 300 SQM Plot.
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> So, it is about 70 kms.
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> CP to Badarpur - 20 Kms
> >> Badarpur to YEW Interchange = 13 Kms (Proposed)
> >> YEW (Inter-Change) TO Sector 20 (Inter-Change) = 20 Kms
> >> Add 1 or 2 kms for interchange clover turns in few places.
> >> Add another 7-10 kms to your 300 SQM Plot.
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> About 65 Kms approximately.
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> The bottom line is, any distance over 20-25 Kms is FAR. Lets
> >> understand that. Please don't give me an example of a DLY driver who
> >> drives tourist every day to Arga and back through NH2.
> >>
> >> Take care,
> >>
> >> Arnab M
> >>
> >> On Oct 25, 12:01 am, "Safal Suri" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Arnab,
> >>
> >> > In my previous post to SK, I explained, how according to my calculations, the distance will be 54.15 kms (I'd put forward, point to point distance). Lets call it 55 kms from Rajghat to Sector 18, Yeida.
> >>
> >> > Now, lets work on your calculations...
> >>
> >> > Arnab, I went to the Google map link you provided. According to it, the distance from CP to Pari-Chowk is 34.6 kms. Good enough. Lets work forward from there.
> >>
> >> > But before moving ahead, lets remember, one won't be passing through Pari-Chowk while going to Yeida. We will have to travel from the starting point of Yamuna Expressway, which is 4 kms before Pari-Chowk, so lets take that into account.
> >>
> >> > CP to Pari-Chowk 38.7 km (according to Arnab) - Pari-Chowk to YE starting point 4.1 km (I have personally checked this distance, multiple times) = 34.6 km (CP to YE Starting Point)
> >>
> >> > Now, consulting all YEIDA maps we have, Sector 20 is exactly 19 kms from YE starting point. Lets now add that to earlier calculations.
> >>
> >> > (CP to YE starting point) 34.7 km + (YE staring point to sector 20) 19 kms = 53.6 (CP to Sector 20)
> >>
> >> > Hmmm... lets see... Arnab, going by the route suggested by you... point to point distance between CP to Sector 20 is (53.6 kms) still less than what I suggested (54.15 kms).
> >>
> >> > Now, add 7 kms that you mentioned, that 300 sq. mt. plot owners will have to travel from Exit Point to their homes. 53.6 km + 7 km = 60.6 km
> >>
> >> > That, sir, by NO MEANS is 70 km.
> >>
> >> > Arnab, my point here is... lets put REAL figures. By now, everyone knows that I am overly optimistic about YEIDA. And I am sure, after reading your previous post, now everyone knows you are equally (overly) pessimistic. So we both are little bit biased, on either side of spectrum. I find that healthy. However, lets not overdo things. Lets put ONLY the facts and take a stand on it.
> >>
> >> > SK, both by Arnab's and my calculations, the distance between CP and Sector 20 is less than 55 kms. These are not hypnotically figures based on personal assumptions. These are real calculations based on facts. Also, remember, no one is representing banks, auto industry or unitech here. Please don't let personal biases against others affect the quality of discussions here. My question to SK and Arnab was issue based, because I believe the figures provided by both don't go with facts.
> >>
> >> > "I hv based my calculation on the basis of premise that yeida owners would travell from CP by road and not fly like a 'bird' that too in straight line." SK please do not involve yourself in bitter sarcastic comments. Remember, everyone, including myself, is capable and has enough capacity to reply in more than appropriate manner. If you have something to say, please support your comments with facts and not with personal whims and fancies.
> >>
> >> > Arnab, as for shortening of distance between YEIDA and DELHI, you forgot to mention the road coming up between BADARPUR CROSSING at DELHI and PARI-CHOWK at GREATER NOIDA.
> >>
> >> > If one was to calculate the distance between DELHI BORDER and Sector 20, YEIDA after this road becomes operational, the distance will be much shorter, to mere 30-35 kms.
> >>
> >> > Lastly, I fully agree it is highly unlikely that couple of lanes of the entire stretch of Yamuna Expressway will become operation before Commonwealth Games. My personal take... Yamuna Expressway will take, at least, another 2-3 years, to become fully operational. HOWEVER, having visited the stretch between YE St. Pt. and Dankur 40-50 times IN PERSON over past couple of months, I have no doubt that the stretch between YE Starting Point to Sector 20, should be operational by next year end.
> >>
> >> > Sometimes being physically present and having a feel of the place is more advantageous than online text-book information.
> >>
> >> > My two cents...
> >>
> >> > Safal
> >>
>
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "ArnabMukherjee"
> >> > To: "YEIDA" &
lt;ye...@googlegroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:37 AM
> >> > Subject: [YEIDA:1169] :Re: :Re: YEIDA IS NOT 50-60 KMS FROM CP
> >>
> >> > Dear Safal,
> >>
> >> > Good point. No mis-information.
> >>
> >> > Let me take a crack at it. Your Rajghat distance seems correct although RajGhat is a biased example. Now let me put the distance between CP to Sector 20 (Inter-change) YEIDA by the shortest route.
> >>
> >> > CP To YEW (interchange - before Pari Chowk) - 39 Kms (Shortest Route).
> >>
> >> > Source =
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Cannaught+Pl......
> >>
> >> > YEW (Inter-Change) TO Sector 20 (Inter-Change) = 20 Kms
> >>
> >> > So far we got 60 Kms (giving 0.5 Kms to each Clover Turns)
> >>
> >> > So far, so good --------------------------------------
> >>
> >> > Remember, the breadth of YEIDA is 15+ Kms. 2 arterial road is going North to South (which should make the distance between Sector 20 IC to First Arterial road to be 5 Kms (min)). Now if you see the IC access road (100 M) to Sector 20, is curved and looks more like a Diagonal rather than a Perpendicular Road. So we could easily approximate, the length to be 7 Kms at least. Move down to your 300 Kms plot through your lanes and by-lanes.
> >>
> >> > This is my basis of 7-10 kms comment.
> >>
> >> > So the distance is about 70 Kms from CP and this distance is HUGE and can not be shortened like Noida.
> >>
> >> > Case in point - Distance from our South Delhi home to Sector 26 Noida, used to be 24 Kms in early 80s. As a kid I sat down with my uncle studying the Delhi master plan, those days and was explained by my dad, that the distance will come down over time as Sarita Vihar Bridge
> >> > (Near Kalindi Kunj) will come and later on DND will cut down the distance further.
> >>
> >> > Today, the distance from my home to Sector 26 is 14 Kms.
> >>
> >> > There is no room for YEIDA distance to come down in future and there is no short cut. The distance will be even longer if you have to make a de-tour.
> >>
> >> > So the bottom line is, if there is no economic development like Gurgaon, the future of YEIDA is DOOMED and early indicators like DLF suggests that. So lets start paying attention to economic development rather than fighting over +-10 Kms which makes no difference. It is like Infinity. So, Infinity + 10 or Infinity - 10 is the same thing.
> >>
> >> > So you cannot spin YEW as a USP. It is a bare minimum pre-requisite (even you have to pay toll to get to your home).
> >>
> >> > Safal, I can visualize the future of this place having seen New Jersey Turnpike (Tolled) residents commuting to New York Downtown for work (Google I-95 Expressway).
> >>
> >> > Another point I would like to suggest is, try NOT to lower people's expectation by saying YEW will be complete till Sector 20 by mid next year when the plan is to open up YEW before CW Games.
> >>
> >> > I am sure and you also know that YEW is far from ready by CW Games.
> >>
> >> > My 2 Cents.
> >>
> >> > Arnab M
> >>
> >> > On Oct 24, 3:17 pm, "Safal Suri" wrote:
> >> > > Arnab...
> >>
> >> > > I thought you said one shouldn't post wrong information. How come you
> >> > > supporting it?
> >>
> >> > > We all can see that 300 sq. mt. plots will be away from the main road. But,
> >> > > how did you comeup with 7-10 kms figure?
> >>
> >> > > I remember everyone questioning me long back how I derived a particular
> >> > > figure before I posted DISTANCE CHART on the group. In fact, even before I
> >> > > was provided an opportunity to explain how I derived on these figures, most
> >> > > criticized me for being irresponsible. It was only when I came with how I
> >> > > got exact figure that most critics were put to silence.
> >>
> >> > > Now my question... two in fact.
> >>
> >> > > 1. On what basis did SK came up with the figure he mentioned in his post?
> >>
> >> > > 2. How did you comeup with the figure you mentioned in post?
> >>
> >> > > Although the incident with me was long back... still, what applies to one..
> >> > > applies to all.
> >>
> >> > > Please don't comeup with fantasy and incorrect figures. It goes for both.
> >> > > Ones who propose a certain figure and ones who oppose the proposed figure.
> >>
> >> > > Lets keep it simple. If you don't know it. You should rather not say
> >> > > anything. Just accept you don't know.
> >>
> >> > > Safal
> >>
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "ArnabMukherjee"
> >> > > To: "YEIDA" &
lt;ye...@googlegroups.com>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:03 AM
> >> > > Subject: [YEIDA:1163] :Re: YEIDA IS NOT 50-60 KMS FROM CP
> >>
> >> > > Add another 7-10 kms to your 300 SQM plot.
> >>
> >> > > On Oct 24, 2:31 pm, SK wrote:
> >> > > > i hv read in one of the post that yeida is 50-60 kms from CP.i stay in
> >> > > > noida and it is yeida is 55 km from noida.Add another 17 km for CP.
> >>
> >> > > > Cheers
> >> > > > SK
> >>
> >