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Missall

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Dec 10, 2011, 5:53:33 PM12/10/11
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My new HD doesn't show up in Disk Management or Device Manager. It
shows up in BIOS, is turned on in BIOS, and passes the BIOS drive
test. I've swapped cables to check them, re-seated plugs, and
rebooted several times. It's a SATA drive and port SATA2. Any
suggestions?

Dan Anderson

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Dec 11, 2011, 6:49:16 AM12/11/11
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Hi Missall,

I plugged your main question into Google and the following seems to be the likely explanation / solution:

"You need to format the drive before you can use it for data.

Right-Click on the My Computer icon either on your desktop or in the Start Menu and select Manage.

A new window titled Computer Management comes up.
Select Storage from the left hand side by clicking it once, then select Disk Management(local) from the right side by double-clicking it. Find your new drive and format it with one large partition.

First you partition - do a primary partition if you want only one partition on the hard drive. Then you format the partition - again right click and select format use NTSF - use default allocation size and give the new volume a label (no spaces allowed in the name)."

Dan

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Subject: [xxclone] can't find drive
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:53:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Missall <missal...@comcast.net>
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My new HD doesn't show up in Disk Management or Device Manager.  It
shows up in BIOS, is turned on in BIOS, and passes the BIOS drive
test.  I've swapped cables to check them, re-seated plugs, and
rebooted several times.  It's a SATA drive and port SATA2.  Any
suggestions?

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Dan Anderson

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Dec 11, 2011, 7:11:59 AM12/11/11
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Although, that may not address your problem because I belatedly noticed that the indicated solution seems to require that you can see the hard drive in Disk Management, which apparently is not the case for your situation.
  A new hard drive used to come with an install CD that supposedly dealt with the initial installation and formatting, so long as the bios recognizes the drive, but I don't recall receiving such a CD any more when buying HDs.

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Greegor

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Dec 11, 2011, 11:10:28 PM12/11/11
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OP made no mention of bottom pane vs upper pane
in Windows Disk Management.
Made no mention of any inability to partition.

Even if everything is working perfectly, when
a system is booted up with a raw drive plugged
into a good SATA port, Windows XP Disk Management
could be said to both SHOW it
and to not SHOW it at the same time.

An unPARTITIONED drive will show
up in the lower window but NOT
show up in the upper pane.

When somebody says it does NOT show up, this
distinction needs to be clarified.

AFTER it is partitioned, and after reboot,
it shows up in both upper and lower panes.

MS Windows XP Disk Management itself
is perfectly capable of partitioning
the drive and formatting partitions
as well. It's not really hard to use.

Alternatively, the Windows installer
on CD works to make several or one
partition and format them, even if
you DO NOT give the go-ahead for it
to install Windows.

Most of the software provided by
drive makers is for cloning drives
which is a common thing to do when
upgrading to a larger drive.

Drive maker provided "fitness test"
programs are becoming rarer.

Some makers still have software to make
really OLD computers handle drives too big
for their BIOS to handle by itself.

Partitioning is really a function that
logically belongs to the operating system
and Win XP Drive Management works just fine
to parition raw drives.

If the OP would have said that the raw drive
shows up in NEITHER the upper or lower pane
I would have suspected a drive failure.

When somebody says the drive doesn't show
up in Drive Manager they need to be VERY
specific about BOTH upper and lower panes.

Somebody simply saying that it doesn't show
up in Drive Management is failing to
communicate specifics of upper pane vs.
lower pane.

They also failed to mention any inability
to partition the drive.

If they would have said that the drive
does not show up on either the upper
OR lower pane on Drive Manager, that
would imply a faulty drive.

If it shows up ONLY on the lower pane
it's just a raw UNPARTITIONED drive.

How did you solve it, Missall?

Colin Wray

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Sep 26, 2012, 11:56:25 AM9/26/12
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I had this problem, and it was caused by my 'new' drive being formatted as a "simple" partition.
All the advice I could find on the web described methods of partitioning which were just not available in this situation, specifically it cannot be done using Disk Management.

The answer lies in an MS utility called DISKPART. Everyone has it, but it is not advertised. Once you know its name, descriptions are plentiful, and it will list all its modes if you type (in Start/cmd) DISKPART, and "help" at the prompt.

DES

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Sep 27, 2012, 8:41:15 AM9/27/12
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You might find a few other undocumented things in Windows
interesting? Think this comes on XP, check Windows\Help\, but can be
downloaded too, ntcmds.chm. Then there's wshconcepts.chm,
Script56.chm (think that's the last version?), and aclui.chm
(different versions for XP & Windows 7). If you want to get serious
about Permissions\Privileges there's SetACl at Source Forge, but be
careful with this one.

DES
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