Can you elaborate this? I’m afraid that it might make unnecessary panic. When do you think this move is going to happen? How reliable your source is in that question? (I mean he must be very close to Autodesk)
I personally trust in the developers (not in Autodesk), but if that is true…
It's hard to be a Softimage user these days... :(
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my tuppence worth….
I don't think maya will ever get ice as we, softimage users, know it. They'll get some nasty half arsed cludge that lacks the simplicity of softimage that will make using it a pain rather than the pleasure we enjoy.
There will always be a tool for people like us and if autodesk stop making it, someone else might step into the picture. who knows. we could all be doing something else for a living in a few years….
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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Marinov
Sent: 19 December 2012 17:03
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if doesn't make enough money from it.
Wish The Foundry had bought Softimage…
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of César Sáez
Sent: 19 décembre 2012 14:56
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
Please, leave Softimage's future to someone who can actually do something about it, we don't have the proper context to know what is happening and what is coming.
Can we boot people from the list for starting or spreading rumors? Please? Especially with no solid backup of what they are saying.
+1
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Andreas Bystrom
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:58 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
that would be a good idea yes
The value is understanding how things work under the hood so you know how to construct the graphs efficiently to accomplish goals. Having a graph interface is just that, an interface. In that regard, ICE knowledge will probably be not very useful as Softimage’s internal guts are very different from Maya’s.
Matt
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:10 PM
To: <soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Rumors
Hi Tim,
ICE will not move to Maya but Maya may integrate a system similar to ICE. This move should actually benefit all Softimage users... Think about it, wouldn't all Softimage ICE users benefit this new system first with our prior knowledge of ICE compared to the newbies...
As for whether Softimage will be removed from Autodesk, I think you shouldn't worry too much... Because the first person to fear should be me ;) but I am still in the team...
I think as long as there is a strong user base in SI, Softimage will continue to be there... So regarding the rumour, don't fall into it... Because if everyone believes in it and starts moving to other DCC, then Softimage may then be in serious trouble...
Chris
On 20 Dec, 2012, at 1:03 AM, "Tim Marinov" <tim.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
And if Maya gets something like ICE no point for autodesk to keep SI if doesn't make enough money from it.
But who cares as someone said the world will end in a couple of days :)
I should add – the fear is once the Maya equivalent of ICE goes live, many current Maya users now using ICE will likely revert back to Maya’s built in system because it’s a lot more convenient than shipping stuff back n’ forth between Maya and Softimage and learning two different softwares. This will cause the Softimage user base headcount to drop a bit. Whether the drop is critical mass or not remains to be determined. If it is, then people do have a legitimate worry of Softimage eventually disappearing sooner than desired.
A few years off either way, but a legitimate concern for some.
The point isn’t whether people would be functional, it’s about whether the knowledge is portable. To be portable requires some degree of semblance. A ui alone won’t do that.
Matt
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ciaran Moloney
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:02 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Rumors
I'd guess 90% of ICE users don't know what goes on under the hood. They do OK.