Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Rob Wuijster
As Image Modeler still works, but slowly starting to show it's age (no HDRI /32bit file input), I'm looking for something similar.
Something I can use to (re)create a scene from a HDRI panorama or set of stills, and being able to project the HDRI image back on top of the geo.
After that export to FBX or alike and import into Softimage.
Unfortunately 16bit is the best you get with ImageModeler. It's too bad the app is dead now..... :-\
So.... Tips and links appreciated.
P.S. I know about Nuke's 8 new modeling tools, but that's a bit on the expensive side, same with Mari ;-)
-- cheers, Rob \/-------------\/----------------\/
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Graham Bell
123d Catch is just a simplified consumer version of the same thing. ReCap Photo is the pro version and offers greater flexibility.
Essentially it's all cloud based, so you get your pictures upload them to our cloud, and then run ReCap photo, you can make tweaks and target points to improve the accuracy. Meshes can be generated in formats such as FBX (of course), OBJ, DXF, etc.
You can then take them into ReCap Pro, which is a standalone desktop application for viewing scan data. You can then make various edits etc before them exporting your data. ReCap pro can also import scan data from other sources.
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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: 16 December 2013 22:48
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Image modeller is very precise, 123d catch and the rest may be fine but it is not the very accurate modelling you are used with IM...
I really think are two different things altogether.
Jordi Bares
On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:30, francisco criado <malcr...@gmail.com<mailto:malcr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
maybe one of these?
http://makezine.com/2013/08/21/diy-photogrammetry-open-source-alternatives-to-123d-catch/
Francisco.
On Monday, December 16, 2013, Jordi Bares wrote:
jordi...@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'jordi...@gmail.com');>
Rob Wuijster
So Recap Pro on the desktop is useless, unless you go through the upload to cloud session first?
Or am I mistaken? The website on Recap isn't the most helpful....
Rob \/-------------\/----------------\/
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Graham Bell
ReCap Pro is a standalone desktop application that allows you to work with scan data, from whatever source - photo or laser. If you have scan data in a supported format, you can import it.
ReCap 360 is the cloud platform for viewing and sharing data published from ReCap Pro. Within 360 there's also ReCap Photo which is Autodesk's own photogrammetry service.
G
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster
Sent: 17 December 2013 11:22
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Cloud based first steps? Really?
So Recap Pro on the desktop is useless, unless you go through the upload to cloud session first?
Or am I mistaken? The website on Recap isn't the most helpful....
Rob
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On 17-12-2013 11:42, Graham Bell wrote:
Image Modeller did go away but the tech behind it has come back as Autodesk ReCap - http://www.autodesk.com/products/recap/overview
123d Catch is just a simplified consumer version of the same thing. ReCap Photo is the pro version and offers greater flexibility.
Essentially it's all cloud based, so you get your pictures upload them to our cloud, and then run ReCap photo, you can make tweaks and target points to improve the accuracy. Meshes can be generated in formats such as FBX (of course), OBJ, DXF, etc.
You can then take them into ReCap Pro, which is a standalone desktop application for viewing scan data. You can then make various edits etc before them exporting your data. ReCap pro can also import scan data from other sources.
G
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: 16 December 2013 22:48
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Image modeller is very precise, 123d catch and the rest may be fine but it is not the very accurate modelling you are used with IM...
I really think are two different things altogether.
Jordi Bares
On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:30, francisco criado <malcr...@gmail.com<mailto:malcr...@gmail.com><mailto:malcr...@gmail.com><mailto:malcr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
maybe one of these?
http://makezine.com/2013/08/21/diy-photogrammetry-open-source-alternatives-to-123d-catch/
Francisco.
On Monday, December 16, 2013, Jordi Bares wrote:
there is no real alternative I am afraid and the lack of development on Autodesk side is indeed very sad... another great piece of technology abandoned.
This is the closest you can get
http://www.banzai-pipeline.com/home.html
Jordi Bares
On 16 Dec 2013, at 19:25, Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl<mailto:ro...@casema.nl><javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'ro...@casema.nl');><javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'ro...@casema.nl');>> wrote:
Hi all,
As Image Modeler still works, but slowly starting to show it's age (no HDRI /32bit file input), I'm looking for something similar.
Something I can use to (re)create a scene from a HDRI panorama or set of stills, and being able to project the HDRI image back on top of the geo.
After that export to FBX or alike and import into Softimage.
Unfortunately 16bit is the best you get with ImageModeler. It's too bad the app is dead now..... :-\
So.... Tips and links appreciated.
P.S. I know about Nuke's 8 new modeling tools, but that's a bit on the expensive side, same with Mari ;-)
--
cheers,
Rob
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Rob Wuijster
But the price/feature difference between Recap and Recap Pro is a bit much for now.
And finding out anything more on Recap(Pro) besides the non narrated videos is aweful btw....
rob
There are two things here, both are related but directly connected. You can use one without the other, if you wish to.
ReCap Pro is a standalone desktop application that allows you to work with scan data, from whatever source – photo or laser. If you have scan data in a supported format, you can import it.
ReCap 360 is the cloud platform for viewing and sharing data published from ReCap Pro. Within 360 there’s also ReCap Photo which is Autodesk’s own photogrammetry service.
G
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster
Sent: 17 December 2013 11:22
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Cloud based first steps? Really?
So Recap Pro on the desktop is useless, unless you go through the upload to cloud session first?
Or am I mistaken? The website on Recap isn't the most helpful....
Rob\/-------------\/----------------\/On 17-12-2013 11:42, Graham Bell wrote:
Image Modeller did go away but the tech behind it has come back as Autodesk ReCap - http://www.autodesk.com/products/recap/overview123d Catch is just a simplified consumer version of the same thing. ReCap Photo is the pro version and offers greater flexibility.Essentially it's all cloud based, so you get your pictures upload them to our cloud, and then run ReCap photo, you can make tweaks and target points to improve the accuracy. Meshes can be generated in formats such as FBX (of course), OBJ, DXF, etc.You can then take them into ReCap Pro, which is a standalone desktop application for viewing scan data. You can then make various edits etc before them exporting your data. ReCap pro can also import scan data from other sources.GFrom: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi BaresSent: 16 December 2013 22:48To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Image modeller is very precise, 123d catch and the rest may be fine but it is not the very accurate modelling you are used with IM...I really think are two different things altogether.Jordi Baresjordi...@gmail.com<mailto:jordi...@gmail.com>On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:30, francisco criado <malcr...@gmail.com<mailto:malcr...@gmail.com>> wrote:maybe one of these?http://makezine.com/2013/08/21/diy-photogrammetry-open-source-alternatives-to-123d-catch/Francisco.On Monday, December 16, 2013, Jordi Bares wrote:there is no real alternative I am afraid and the lack of development on Autodesk side is indeed very sad... another great piece of technology abandoned.This is the closest you can gethttp://www.banzai-pipeline.com/home.htmlJordi Bares
On 16 Dec 2013, at 19:25, Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'ro...@casema.nl');>> wrote:Hi all,As Image Modeler still works, but slowly starting to show it's age (no HDRI /32bit file input), I'm looking for something similar.Something I can use to (re)create a scene from a HDRI panorama or set of stills, and being able to project the HDRI image back on top of the geo.After that export to FBX or alike and import into Softimage.Unfortunately 16bit is the best you get with ImageModeler. It's too bad the app is dead now..... :-\So.... Tips and links appreciated.P.S. I know about Nuke's 8 new modeling tools, but that's a bit on the expensive side, same with Mari ;-)--cheers,Rob\/-------------\/----------------\/
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Rob Wuijster
The review just talks about laser scans and cloud generated point clouds, nothing about manually working with images. And the helpfiles don't even mention Recap Pro.
Like in my original post, I'm just looking for a ImageModeler alike program that can deal with 32bit files.
But after a fruitless day of searching, there seems nothing out there that can do environment rebuilding by hand based on photo's or panos.
And I don't really care for a 450,-/month subscription package for stuff like this.
Rob \/-------------\/----------------\/
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl> wrote:
I see.
But the price/feature difference between Recap and Recap Pro is a bit much for now.
And finding out anything more on Recap(Pro) besides the non narrated videos is aweful btw....
rob
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ReCap 360 is the cloud platform for viewing and sharing data published from ReCap Pro. Within 360 there�s also ReCap Photo which is Autodesk�s own photogrammetry service.
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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster
Sent: 17 December 2013 11:22
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
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Cloud based first steps? Really?
So Recap Pro on the desktop is useless, unless you go through the upload to cloud session first?
Or am I mistaken? The website on Recap isn't the most helpful....
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Image Modeller did go away but the tech behind it has come back as Autodesk ReCap - http://www.autodesk.com/products/recap/overview
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Essentially it's all cloud based, so you get your pictures upload them to our cloud, and then run ReCap photo, you can make tweaks and target points to improve the accuracy. Meshes can be generated in formats such as FBX (of course), OBJ, DXF, etc.
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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi BaresSent: 16 December 2013 22:48To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.comSubject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
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Image modeller is very precise, 123d catch and the rest may be fine but it is not the very accurate modelling you are used with IM...
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This is the closest you can gethttp://www.banzai-pipeline.com/home.html
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On 16 Dec 2013, at 19:25, Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'ro...@casema.nl');>> wrote:
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As Image Modeler still works, but slowly starting to show it's age (no HDRI /32bit file input), I'm looking for something similar.Something I can use to (re)create a scene from a HDRI panorama or set of stills, and being able to project the HDRI image back on top of the geo.After that export to FBX or alike and import into Softimage.
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Unfortunately 16bit is the best you get with ImageModeler. It's too bad the app is dead now..... :-\
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P.S. I know about Nuke's 8 new modeling tools, but that's a bit on the expensive side, same with Mari ;-)
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adrian wyer
i think your best bet is using something like agisoft or image modeller for the build, and then Mari for the texture re-projection/paint of 32 bit images
see http://www.fxguide.com/fxguidetv/fxguidetv-165-scott-metzger-on-mari-and-hdr/
for a very good workflow
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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster
Sent: 17 December 2013 14:50
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler
alternatives?? looking for something with 32bitimport/export functionality.
Sorry, but those don't really answer my questions.
The review just talks about laser scans and cloud generated point clouds,
nothing about manually working with images. And the helpfiles don't even
mention Recap Pro.
Like in my original post, I'm just looking for a ImageModeler alike program
that can deal with 32bit files.
But after a fruitless day of searching, there seems nothing out there that can
do environment rebuilding by hand based on photo's or panos.
And I don't really care for a 450,-/month subscription package for stuff like
this.
Rob \/-------------\/----------------\/
On 17-12-2013 15:37, Stephen Blair wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl> wrote:
I see.
But the price/feature difference between Recap and Recap Pro is a bit much for now.
And finding out anything more on Recap(Pro) besides the non narrated videos is aweful btw....
rob
\/-------------\/----------------\/On 17-12-2013 14:12, Graham Bell wrote:
There are two things here, both are related but directly connected. You can use one without the other, if you wish to.
ReCap Pro is a standalone desktop application that allows you to work with scan data, from whatever source – photo or laser. If you have scan data in a supported format, you can import it.
ReCap 360 is the cloud platform for viewing and sharing data published from ReCap Pro. Within 360 there’s also ReCap Photo which is Autodesk’s own photogrammetry service.
G
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster
Sent: 17 December 2013 11:22
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Cloud based first steps? Really?
So Recap Pro on the desktop is useless, unless you go through the upload to cloud session first?
Or am I mistaken? The website on Recap isn't the most helpful....
Rob
\/-------------\/----------------\/On 17-12-2013 11:42, Graham Bell wrote:
Image Modeller did go away but the tech behind it has come back as Autodesk ReCap - http://www.autodesk.com/products/recap/overview
123d Catch is just a simplified consumer version of the same thing. ReCap Photo is the pro version and offers greater flexibility.Essentially it's all cloud based, so you get your pictures upload them to our cloud, and then run ReCap photo, you can make tweaks and target points to improve the accuracy. Meshes can be generated in formats such as FBX (of course), OBJ, DXF, etc.You can then take them into ReCap Pro, which is a standalone desktop application for viewing scan data. You can then make various edits etc before them exporting your data. ReCap pro can also import scan data from other sources.G
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi BaresSent: 16 December 2013 22:48To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.comSubject: Re: Image Modeler alternatives?? looking for something with 32bit import/export functionality.
Image modeller is very precise, 123d catch and the rest may be fine but it is not the very accurate modelling you are used with IM...I really think are two different things altogether.Jordi Baresjordi...@gmail.com<mailto:jordi...@gmail.com>
On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:30, francisco criado <malcr...@gmail.com<mailto:malcr...@gmail.com>> wrote:maybe one of these?http://makezine.com/2013/08/21/diy-photogrammetry-open-source-alternatives-to-123d-catch/
Francisco.
On Monday, December 16, 2013, Jordi Bares wrote:there is no real alternative I am afraid and the lack of development on Autodesk side is indeed very sad... another great piece of technology abandoned.
This is the closest you can gethttp://www.banzai-pipeline.com/home.htmlJordi Bares
jordi...@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'jordi...@gmail.com');>
On 16 Dec 2013, at 19:25, Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'ro...@casema.nl');>> wrote:Hi all,
As Image Modeler still works, but slowly starting to show it's age (no HDRI /32bit file input), I'm looking for something similar.Something I can use to (re)create a scene from a HDRI panorama or set of stills, and being able to project the HDRI image back on top of the geo.After that export to FBX or alike and import into Softimage.
Unfortunately 16bit is the best you get with ImageModeler. It's too bad the app is dead now..... :-\So.... Tips and links appreciated.P.S. I know about Nuke's 8 new modeling tools, but that's a bit on the expensive side, same with Mari ;-)--
cheers,Rob\/-------------\/----------------\/
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Registered Office: One Discovery Place, Columbus Drive, Farnborough, Hampshire GU14 0NZ
Registered in England and Wales, No. 1839239
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Eugen Sares
I had some success trying to re-create (simple) building models from photos with Sketchup:
http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/94920
For what it's worth...
Best regards,
Eugen
