Quick Arnold question

[Mathieu Dufresne]

Hello list!

 

Just wanted to know if anybody knows a way to keep hidden polygons hidden at render time in Arnold?

 

I need the border polygons to keep my surface normals intact but I don’t want to render them.

 

Any cues?

 

Cheers!

 

 

[Steven Caron]

polygon cluster with polygon cluster visibility property on it

[Mathieu Dufresne]

More than a cue, a solution! J

 

Thanks Steven!

 

MatDuf

[Steven Caron]

no sweat.

i forget exactly why its that way but it had something to do with the 'hidden' poly cluster softimage makes internally and mental ray uses was either slow to access/check for or was difficult to get at.

s

[Adam Seeley]

I spy Ice feathers....

https://vimeo.com/43978044#

Adam.

[Javier Vega]

Spectacular!

[Bradley Gabe]

You are correct. :-)

This would be a good time to introduce Vince Baertsoen, VFX Supe here at The Mill in NYC. He's the bearded fellow who appears at 1:25 in the video, and I believe the main architect behind the feather system, along with David Barosin.

I've been working with Vince since the beginning of the year, a super nice fellow who really should be more visible in the community, especially considering The Mill here in NY are using ICE like crazy and are on the prowl for talent.

-Bradley

[Adam Seeley]

Wondered why I didn't recognise the name... come on in Vince, the water's warm.

A.

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From: Bradley Gabe <with...@gmail.com>
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012, 15:04
Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

[Eric Thivierge]

WE WANT VINCE, WE WANT VINCE!!

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http://www.ethivierge.com

[Amaan Akram]

Vince, show yourself! :)

Brad got it spot on. Super nice guy, super skilled too.

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[Bradley Gabe]

I'm going to verify that he's subscribed to the list...

[Jens Lindgren]

I actually met Vince last year at Siggraph. Very mystical man. Disappeared early from the Softimage dinner and the only trace of him was a pile of business cards  :)

 

/Jens

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[Vince Baertsoen]

Thank you very much Bradley.

Yes it's a full on ICE feather system.
I started to layer all the main compound from scratch at the beginning of Hallmark, then Dave Barosin joined a month later and help me out with few very helpful features and scripts.

Version 1.0 of this feather system at the end of Hallmark was really nice, but version 2.0 that Bradley actually worked on is absolutely amazing and pleasure to use!
We had a very nice time brainstorming and figure out how to improve it. Bradley did all the hard work, cleaning it up and build a very nice interface around it.

We are using it now for an other bird (i can't mentioned the project yet, but it looks great), and we are using it for other type of scattering like leaves for trees for exemple.
Very very useful!

I can't wait to show you the next projects using it!

And i am glad i am finally on the Softimage list!!!!
It was about time.

Thanks again Bradley!

Vince.

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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:04 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

You are correct. :-)

This would be a good time to introduce Vince Baertsoen, VFX Supe here at The Mill in NYC. He's the bearded fellow who appears at 1:25 in the video, and I believe the main architect behind the feather system, along with David Barosin.

I've been working with Vince since the beginning of the year, a super nice fellow who really should be more visible in the community, especially considering The Mill here in NY are using ICE like crazy and are on the prowl for talent.

-Bradley

[Javier Vega]

Welcome Vince. I love that ICE's feather system. Some months ago I tried a system for feather too but the results was so slow. Anyway only was a test, but now Im curious to tried again.

Thanks!

Javier Vega

http://www.zao3d.com

http://blog.zao3d.com

[Bradley Gabe]

Thanks Vince!

Folks should know he's been an XSI and ICE afficionado for a long time now, just not as visible in the community because he's dealing with numerous internal issues and mailing lists at The Mill.

Actually, there are quite a few such fellows here at The Mill. It's ironic, I think. Once your internal user base gets large enough and skilled enough, the community presence ends up shrinking since you can turn to your coworkers for advice and assistance.

-B

[Vince Baertsoen]

hahaha... yes... i wish i had some time on this evening to stick around and joined you guys...i had way too many meetings.

Anyway this year, i 'll arrange my schedule ahead and make sure i'll be there.

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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:16 AM

To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

I actually met Vince last year at Siggraph. Very mystical man. Disappeared early from the Softimage dinner and the only trace of him was a pile of business cards :)

/Jens

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Amaan Akram <xsi...@warpedspace.org<mailto:xsi...@warpedspace.org>> wrote:
Vince, show yourself! :)

Brad got it spot on. Super nice guy, super skilled too.

On 14 June 2012 16:01, Eric Thivierge <ethiv...@gmail.com<mailto:ethiv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
WE WANT VINCE, WE WANT VINCE!!

--------------------------------------------
Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Adam Seeley <adam_...@yahoo.com<mailto:adam_...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Wondered why I didn't recognise the name... come on in Vince, the water's warm.

A.


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From: Bradley Gabe <with...@gmail.com<mailto:with...@gmail.com>>
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>

Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012, 15:04
Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

You are correct. :-)

This would be a good time to introduce Vince Baertsoen, VFX Supe here at The Mill in NYC. He's the bearded fellow who appears at 1:25 in the video, and I believe the main architect behind the feather system, along with David Barosin.

I've been working with Vince since the beginning of the year, a super nice fellow who really should be more visible in the community, especially considering The Mill here in NY are using ICE like crazy and are on the prowl for talent.

-Bradley

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Adam Seeley <adam_...@yahoo.com<mailto:adam_...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I spy Ice feathers....

https://vimeo.com/43978044#

Adam.








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[an...@andynicholas.com]

> And i am glad i am finally on the Softimage list!!!!
> It was about time.

Seriously? Were you not on it before?!!

Glad you finally made it :)

[Vince Baertsoen]

Actually Graham Clark try to put me on it a year or 2 ago, but i don't know what i did, it worked for couple of weeks and i lost connection....

Anyway, it's all good now.

Vince.

Ext: 2311
Mobile: 917-664-1830
www.the-mill.com

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From: an...@andynicholas.com [an...@andynicholas.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:20 PM
To: Vince Baertsoen; soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Ice feathers..

[Kris Rivel]

This is great...nice work gang.  I'm doing a simple feather setup with ice...and its not as easy as I thought..suggestions welcome :-)  Hard part is getting them to point in the right direction.  Getting that nice bend in one direction without feathers on the side bending back but on their edge or something.

Kris

[Adam Seeley]

On the subject of feathers...... an excellent new donation by Tim Marinov.

https://vimeo.com/41321274

Adam

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From: Javier Vega <javier...@gmail.com>
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012, 16:22
Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

[Kris Rivel]

Wow thats insane!  I imagine great for one or a few feathers but I can't see translating that onto a bird with thousands of feathers right?

Kris

[Javier Vega]

Oh! Nice! Thank you for the link.

[Guillaume Laforge]

Beautiful work ! 

Le bonjour en passant Vince :).

[Graham D. Clark]

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Vince Baertsoen <vi...@themill.com> wrote:

Actually Graham Clark try to put me on it a year or 2 ago, but i don't know what i did, it worked for couple of weeks and i lost connection....

Vince how can you do so much with ICE but the internet be so tough :p

cheers Vince, your spot looks great and please say hi and congrats to Yann and Brad too.

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[Bradley Gabe]

I had nothing to do with their lovely Hallmark spot, though I will accept credit for finally getting Vince subscribed on this list.

My job is to make cynical remarks and then fabricate and send silly production images to my coworkers.  ;-)

-B

[Vince Baertsoen]

Thanks a lot Guillaume.

J'espere a tres bientot a Montreal!

Vince.

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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:46 PM

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Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

Beautiful work !

Le bonjour en passant Vince :).

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Bradley Gabe <with...@gmail.com<mailto:with...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You are correct. :-)

This would be a good time to introduce Vince Baertsoen, VFX Supe here at The Mill in NYC. He's the bearded fellow who appears at 1:25 in the video, and I believe the main architect behind the feather system, along with David Barosin.

I've been working with Vince since the beginning of the year, a super nice fellow who really should be more visible in the community, especially considering The Mill here in NY are using ICE like crazy and are on the prowl for talent.

-Bradley

[Vince Baertsoen]

hahaha i know i am terrible with this.
But look, i am getting better.

Thanks a lot, i will pass on the good words.

Vince.

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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:02 PM

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Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

[Vince Baertsoen]

You are sadly very good at this.
:)

Vince.

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Subject: Re: Ice feathers..

I had nothing to do with their lovely Hallmark spot, though I will accept credit for finally getting Vince subscribed on this list.

My job is to make cynical remarks and then fabricate and send silly production images to my coworkers. ;-)

-B

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Graham D. Clark <mailgrah...@gmail.com<mailto:mailgrah...@gmail.com>> wrote:

[Stefan Kubicek]

Hi Vince,

welcome aboard!

With all the recent talk about custom feather systems being developed and employed at Psyop and The Mill, I was wondering if you looked at mbFeathers (http://feathertools.michael-buettner.com/)
before deciding to build your own system, and why you ended up investing the time and taking your own rout. I assume you were looking for specific features you could not find in,
or build upon, mbFeathers? Simply out of curiosity, I'd love to understand what it was you couldn't find elsewhere that justified building a feather system from scratch.

Cheers,

Stefan

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[Morten Bartholdy]

Beautiful work with the feathers Vince! Say hi to Yann -  think it is a killer spot :)

 

Best Regards

Morten Bartholdy
VFX Supervisor/3D Lead
www.gimmickvfx.com

[Vince Baertsoen]

Hi Stefan,

Thats a very good question.
I did look at it, it's a very nice plugin. I really like the collisions and how fast it is.
But i wasn't satisfied with the grooming tools and distribution.

Beside this, i had already a scattering tools from a previous job i did(trees setup) which had good elements for a feather system.
http://www.themill.com/work/johnnie-walker/rock-giant.aspx

And obviously the last point would be than it's all open and we can do pretty much whatever we want with it now.

Cheers.

Vince.

Ext: 2311
Mobile: 917-664-1830
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:33 AM

Wehrgasse 9 - Gr�ner Hof

[Michael Buettner]

Awesome work on the feathers!

Thanks for the mention of my plugin Stefan.

@Vince: Have a video of how your grooming and placement works? I'd love to see.

Cheers,

Michael

         Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof

[Stefan Kubicek]

> And obviously the last point would be than it's all open and we can do pretty much whatever we want with it now.

I figured, thanks for the explanation Vince. I love the Johnny Walker ad btw, it's one of the best moments in the Mills 2012 demo reel too.

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