Softimage promo

[Tim Leydecker]

Hi guys,

as part of the Autodesk Unfold event in Montreal, Softimage was a part
of the show.

A montage of the presentation can be seen here:

http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/live/unfoldevent/workflow.html

Topics: 3ds Max, Maya, Softimage, MotionBuilder, Mudbox

There�s quite a bit of interesting stuff to be seen in the above,
maybe not in the ultrahighest level of finishing but at least at
a glance that allows to get updated on possibilities.

Cheers,

tim

[Sebastien Sterling]

Yeay Adam Sale !

[Steffen Dünner]

Adam Sale rocked the house... and in the end, ALL died!

Awesome presentation!

Cheers

Steffen

2013/4/11 Tim Leydecker <baue...@gmx.de>

[Vincent Ullmann]

;)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/xsi_list/YbFQYrAOKVo%5B126-150-false%5D
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/xsi_list/YbFQYrAOKVo%5B126-150-false%5D>

[Christopher]

Where is the annoying things for Softimage ?

Christopher
Who is the guy talking in the video, anyone know him ?

Vincent Ullmann

Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:23 PM

;)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/xsi_list/YbFQYrAOKVo%5B126-150-false%5D <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/xsi_list/YbFQYrAOKVo%5B126-150-false%5D>

Steffen Dünner

Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:19 PM

Adam Sale rocked the house... and in the end, ALL died!

Awesome presentation!

Cheers

Steffen

Tim Leydecker

Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:32 PM

[Ed Harriss]

The list was too short, so they didn’t bother.  ;)

[Christopher]

Honestly it was too short, not even (1) thing ?
Ten things for Mudbox arghhh I gotta watch the video soon to know them, I always seem to run into them.

Christopher

Ed Harriss

Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:28 PM

Christopher

Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:58 PM

Where is the annoying things for Softimage ?

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Small Annoying Things is the name of a Max website that became an internal mini-dev model. Maya and Mudbox adopted it, but I guess the team shuffling and the complete lack of a product manager for months on Soft's side left it late for that bandwagon.
I'd be surprised if they didn't adopt it for the next version.

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[Ed Harriss]

I was joking…

Notice the ;) at the end.

I don’t think that there is any piece of software on this planet that doesn’t have at least 1 annoying thing in it.

[Christopher]

Thanks for the info :)

Raffaele Fragapane

Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:54 PM

Small Annoying Things is the name of a Max website that became an internal mini-dev model. Maya and Mudbox adopted it, but I guess the team shuffling and the complete lack of a product manager for months on Soft's side left it late for that bandwagon.
I'd be surprised if they didn't adopt it for the next version.

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Christopher

Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:33 PM

[Christopher]

I know you were Joking, I wanted to see if the last comment was going to be taking literal :) No hard feelings, it's all good :)

Christopher

Ed Harriss

Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:57 PM

Christopher

Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:33 PM

Honestly it was too short, not even (1) thing ?
Ten things for Mudbox arghhh I gotta watch the video soon to know them, I always seem to run into them.

Christopher

Ed Harriss

Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:28 PM

The list was too short, so they didn’t bother.  ;)

 

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:59 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

 

Where is the annoying things for Softimage ?

 

Christopher

Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:58 PM

Where is the annoying things for Softimage ?

Christopher
Who is the guy talking in the video, anyone know him ?

[Ed Harriss]

No problem. As we all know, emails can be easily misunderstood. =)

[Chris Chia]

Adam rocks, indeed a good presenter!

[Sam]

Adam did a great job. What happened to Mark?

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:59 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com

[Dan Yargici]

I agree, Adam was very clear, concise and likable.

DAN

[Graham Bell]

We have a Tech Marketing team who usually handles these types of presentations, including any of show booths. Guys like myself and Mark sit outside of this team and focus on other areas. This can make it hard to devote the required time time to making demos for these types of things.
Mark was 'on duty' at NAB though.

[Adam Sale]

I have to give it up to guys like Mark. Presenting under tight time frames is tougher than it looks. 

Was a lot of fun though... 

[Steffen Dünner]

IMHO your presentation was outstanding. Made Softimage look really cool to work with. Especially in comparison to this guy trying to present 3dsmax... ;)

2013/4/12 Adam Sale <adam...@gmail.com>

[Leonard Koch]

Well done Adam.

[Emilio Hernandez]

Adam good job!   But still that AD thing.  Maya and 3DS got in my perception 80% of the whole presentation incluiding that Short film thing.  

Mark I think he just gave up and is still traveling in his vintage VW through the Tibet or something like that.

For me it is very clear now that AD in never going to put the camera aligning tool, nor upgrade the viewport of Softimage to perform like Maya's.

If they do that what will be the "advantage" of having either 3MAX or Maya above Softimage?

Redshift 3D is coming for Softimage and its going to blow up your minds.

2013/4/12 Leonard Koch <leonard...@gmail.com>

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[Adam Seeley]

Hi,

I didn't have time to see this the other day & now the link's dead.

Does anyone have a working link?

Thanks,

Adam.
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Yoyo Digital Ltd.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk

https://vimeo.com/adamseeley

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From: Chris Chia <chris...@autodesk.com>
To: "soft...@listproc.autodesk.com" <soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 4:59
Subject: RE: Softimage promo

[Adam Sale]

Actually to be fair, 3ds Max got the same amount of time Softimage did. 

Maya was broken up into two presentations for the Motionbuilder and Mudbox accompaniments, but in all it had about the same amount of time as soft, perhaps a couple minutes longer. 

The Short film presentation.. nothing much could be done about that. It was a great presentation by Daniel as well, he didn't focus heavily on Maya in his talk either. 

[Sam]

That makes sense. I'm used to seeing him in all the Siggraph videos, so I
was wondering why he wasn�t in this one.

[Bradley Gabe]

No problem. As we all know, emails can be easily misunderstood. =)

 

What exactly did you mean by that comment, Ed?  :-Z 

[Sebastien Sterling]

is it me, or did all the max features look ..Mickey Mouse ? they didn't look like very useful or serious additions

, with the exception of the little search box thing, which in fairness is a blessing for max (modifier list anyone ?), but nothing outside of this seemed to give max an edge.

[Gustavo Eggert Boehs]

3ds max users I know were vey excited with this release. Specially regarding small annoying things, with viewport performance enhancemants/dx11 in a close seccond.

A direct quote:
"Man now I can maximize my viewport only hovering the mouse. No need to make it active!"

This wowed me a lot as an SI user ;-)

[Sebastien Sterling]

na the dx 11 is cool but its seems to becoming standardised, max was over due for some UI enhancements, view port switching was painful before, i remember that, but I was speaking more specifically about the larger features. which is ironic when you think about it, the little tweaks and fixes are more interesting then the key features discussed.

[Stefan Kubicek]

I think thats pretty common when you look at older software. In the
beginning it's all about new features and making use of new paradigms a
software offers. As it matures and collects features,
people become aware and weary of the small annoying things that might have
been plaguing them for years,
hence they are more thankful having one or two thorns removed from their
bread and butter tools rather than the next big Crowd Simulation toolset
only a handful of people will never need. It's mostly been UI (Qt,
viewport) and now modeling tools for Maya too for the last couple of
versions.

>>>> =)****
>>>>>
>>>>> **

>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What exactly did you mean by that comment, Ed? :-Z
>>>>
>>>
>>>

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[Sebastien Sterling]

Hey maybe 2015 they will liberate the sdk in softimage :)

          Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3

[Stefan Kubicek]

I hope so too. The "new features" vs SDK anhancement debate has been
rolling here and on the beta testers
forum for so long and persistently now that I'm sure Chris and colleagues
have heard us. It's up to them now...

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[Sebastien Sterling]

WELL until they do, i believe it will bear repeating, sdk sdk sdk sdk sdk.... it only makes sense, they have opened up an app store.

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[Szabolcs Matefy]

I’m curious when Softimage will be pinnable to Task Bar and Start Menu?

 

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:17 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

 

WELL until they do, i believe it will bear repeating, sdk sdk sdk sdk sdk.... it only makes sense, they have opened up an app store.

[Eugen Sares]

2014 is.

[Stephen Blair]

So 2014 doesn't use the setenv batch files anymore? You can pin XSI.exe to the taskbar? Is that what you mean?

[Eugen Sares]

No, the shortcut still points to XSI.bat.
I'm sure it wasn't possible to pin the 2013 icon to the taskbar, but obviously I'm mistaken, because in can be, by starting SI and RMB-pinning the icon.
The icons cannot be dragged and dropped to the taskbar, though, 2014 and older.
Sorry for the confusion.

[Stephen Davidson]

you can pin the .bat file (XSI.bat) which launches Softimage

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[Ed Harriss]

Email is rarely misunderstood however here is a good example.

http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html

 

I like cats.

Ed

 

 

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Bradley Gabe
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:34 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

 

 

No problem. As we all know, emails can be easily misunderstood. =)

 

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

>I like cats.

>Ed

 

So the cheesemonkeys finally get the boot, eh?

 

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[Ed Harriss]

No, I like them all.

Not simultaneously though.

 

 

Ed

 

 

 

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:56 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage promo

 

>I like cats.

[Rob Wuijster]

Nice find, his stuff is wicked! :-)

Rob
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[Toonafish]

hahahaha ! That's brilliant !

- Ronald

[Sam]

Revert you task bar back to one with the quick launch bar and be done with it. I don’t know why Microsoft keeps trying to incorporate the worst features from Macs into windows.

 

 

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:14 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage promo

 

I’m curious when Softimage will be pinnable to Task Bar and Start Menu?

[Raffaele Fragapane]

I just dragged and dropped the icon from the desktop to the bar and it's now the equivalent of a pinned app in all regards.
Win 7 that is, for what little time I spend in it.

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[Szabolcs Matefy]

Sorry to disagree, I’ve just tried. There is no pinning to Taskbar and Start menu item in the right click menu, you can pin the XSI.EXE to the taskbar, and must manually redirect the link to the bat. So the conclusion is that it can’t.

[Szabolcs Matefy]

To me (Win7 latest updates) it’s not available. It wants to pin to the exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all other programs offer the option

[Ahmidou Lyazidi]

It's supposed to work, it is for me, but softimage must have been launch.

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Director | TD | CG artist
http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos

2013/4/16 Szabolcs Matefy <szab...@crytek.com>

[Eugen Sares]

I'm on Windows 8 here.
You can either go to the metro screen, RMB select the softimage icon, and choose "pin to taskbar", or equivalently, you can double-click-start SI via the desktop icon, and RMB-pin it in the taskbar.
The same does NOT work with the SI 2013 icon, so obviously something has changed with the 2014 icon, although is still just a shortcut to XSI.bat.

[Sebastien Sterling]

SOFTIMAGE 2015, brand new main feature, you may now pin the softimage icon to the task bar !!! yes we listen to your problems !

[ivan tay]

Great presentation Adam!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Sebastien Sterling <sebastien...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeay Adam Sale !

On 11 April 2013 19:32, Tim Leydecker <baue...@gmx.de> wrote:

Hi guys,

as part of the Autodesk Unfold event in Montreal, Softimage was a part
of the show.

A montage of the presentation can be seen here:

http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/live/unfoldevent/workflow.html

Topics: 3ds Max, Maya, Softimage, MotionBuilder, Mudbox

There´s quite a bit of interesting stuff to be seen in the above,
maybe not in the ultrahighest level of finishing but at least at
a glance that allows to get updated on possibilities.

Cheers,

tim

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy <szab...@crytek.com> wrote:
> To me (Win7 latest updates) it�s not available. It wants to pin to the

> exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
> other programs offer the option

None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
"offered" by Microsoft. It creates shortcut to Softimage.exe but
Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
set the environment variable per-version. Don't know if it's worth to
come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
to work around that taskbar menu.

1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
to taskbar"
2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select Properties
4) change xsi.exe to xsi.bat

[Angus Davidson]

Is it not possible to write a launcher program that will do the same thing
as the batch file.

That way you can leave xsi.exe unchanged and it will still have what ever
it needs in place before it runs.

On 2013/04/16 1:41 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau" <luce...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy <szab...@crytek.com>
>wrote:

>> To me (Win7 latest updates) it�s not available. It wants to pin to the

>> exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
>> other programs offer the option
>
> None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
>"offered" by Microsoft. It creates shortcut to Softimage.exe but
>Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
>set the environment variable per-version. Don't know if it's worth to
>come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
>to work around that taskbar menu.
>
>1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
>to taskbar"
>2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
>3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select
>Properties
>4) change xsi.exe to xsi.bat
>

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[Rob Wuijster]

Funny that this stuff comes back with every new release of Softimage.
There's some solutions on this in the mail archives, and even on the forums.

Rob

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[Angus Davidson]

Okay Just got tired of the issue so I created a small application. XSI Bounce

Just copy it into the Appplication/bin folder. It shouldn't matter what version you are using.

All it does is check to see if XSI.bat is there and if it is run the batch file. It will then quit. On fast machines you probably won't even notice it opening.

That way you can easily pin something to the Start Bar.

You can get it from http://db.tt/EG3p9Ihb

TODO. 1) Get a decent Icon, Currently just generic application Icon

2)Test to see if it works with network licensing 

Kind regards

Angus

From: Rob Wuijster <ro...@casema.nl>
Reply-To: "ro...@casema.nl" <ro...@casema.nl>, "soft...@listproc.autodesk.com" <soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Date: Tuesday 16 April 2013 4:08 PM
To: "soft...@listproc.autodesk.com" <soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

[Dan Yargici]

That's great, thanks!

DAN

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

 how does that fix the context menu the user is trying to use?

if you wanted something to put on the task bar directly, afaik you can already drag a standard windows shortcut to XSI.bat like ralf wrote

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

By context menu, I mean the "Pin this program to the taskbar" item in the context menu of the Taskbar when Softimage is running. The problem is that this option pins xsi.exe because that's what running. If you make a launcher that starts xsi.bat and then quits, then it doesn't solve that problem because the running process is still xsi.exe. It just adds a launcher that launches another launcher (cmd.exe which launched the .bat file)  It solves the other problem, which is that it gives you something to drag on your taskbar, since .bat file won't work.  

But you can take the shortcut for Softimage 2013 that is on your desktop, modify "Target" to add "cmd.exe " in front of "C\Program files...xsi.bat" and now you can drag and drop it onto the taskbar

[Angus Davidson]

Hi 

I get what you are saying.  However you are missing the point. This is just simply for the folks who want to be able to right click on an exe file and add it to the start menu (note not the task menu) Its meant as nothing more then as a option to remove an annoyance  (and doing the workarounds is a additional process). You personally might not find it annoying, but there are those of us who do. Those who do can relieve that using a variety of methods.

To me this is very simple and elegant method. If I had the time I would expand it to be customizable in the same way that the batch file is to do away with that step completely but right now this is fine for me, possibly others as well.

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To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage promo