Softimage license transfer

[Morten Bartholdy]

There was a thread about buying Softimage licenses from other users a while ago. Autodesk does not permit selling licenses but in the EU this practise has been established as unlawful:

http://www.worldcadaccess.com/blog/2012/07/autodesks-loses-battle-against-resold-software-in-eu.html

https://www.cadnauseam.com/2017/04/18/you-can-still-buy-autodesk-perpetual-licenses-in-europe/

Did any of you find out if it is currently possible to get Autodesk to make a license transfer if you have managed to find someone to buy a license from? I found this on the topic:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=6&t=1445035

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/customer-service/account-management/manage-licensing/transfer-licenses/transfer-ownership-licenses

After all there should be plenty unused Softimage licenses around these days, so it should be possible.
Is anyone here interested in selling their copy of Softimage?


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[Tom Kleinenberg]

I think Autodesk tried to circumvent this by getting studios over onto newer licenses of Maya which then replaced the Softimage licenses. I may be wrong, but I think that people who decided to stay the course with XSI are still using theirs and everybody else changed over, barring one or two licenses for opening legacy files.

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[Martin]

You don't lose your Softimage license when you chose to change to Maya & Softimage package and AFAIK you won't lose it as long as you have activated those licenses and stay on maintenance or even change to subscription.

We have all our licenses like that, with Maya, and still using Softimage. Curiously I have yet to install Maya 2017 and we already have a 2018.

Martin

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[Michael Amasio]

Any updates on this topic would be greatly appreciated.  Especially any success stories.

I feel like companies willing to part with theirs would be smaller.  But animal logic (in Vancouver) is dropping xsi after this current show. ( though they've rumored that before ).  I'll walk across the street and see if that's really happening.

and the studio formerly known as nerdcorp is transitioning right now.

I called autodesk daily ( and our CTO )  almost every day in March of this year and tried to get them to sell our company a new license but they stood firm against it, all the way up the chain.

On Aug 4, 2017 10:12 AM, "Martin" <furi...@gmail.com> wrote:

You don't lose your Softimage license when you chose to change to Maya & Softimage package and AFAIK you won't lose it as long as you have activated those licenses and stay on maintenance or even change to subscription.

We have all our licenses like that, with Maya, and still using Softimage. Curiously I have yet to install Maya 2017 and we already have a 2018.

Martin

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On Aug 5, 2017, at 0:20, Tom Kleinenberg <zaga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think Autodesk tried to circumvent this by getting studios over onto newer licenses of Maya which then replaced the Softimage licenses. I may be wrong, but I think that people who decided to stay the course with XSI are still using theirs and everybody else changed over, barring one or two licenses for opening legacy files.

On 4 August 2017 at 12:34, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:

There was a thread about buying Softimage licenses from other users a while ago. Autodesk does not permit selling licenses but in the EU this practise has been established as unlawful:

http://www.worldcadaccess.com/blog/2012/07/autodesks-loses-battle-against-resold-software-in-eu.html

https://www.cadnauseam.com/2017/04/18/you-can-still-buy-autodesk-perpetual-licenses-in-europe/

Did any of you find out if it is currently possible to get Autodesk to make a license transfer if you have managed to find someone to buy a license from? I found this on the topic:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=6&t=1445035

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/customer-service/account-management/manage-licensing/transfer-licenses/transfer-ownership-licenses

After all there should be plenty unused Softimage licenses around these days, so it should be possible.
Is anyone here interested in selling their copy of Softimage?


Cheers
Morten
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[Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain]

is there no labor unions or anything like user clubs or unions to organize,

crowdfund website a public group, try to crowdfund and buy the whole of autodesk (seriously)-

they seem dark evil, hollywood industry does plenty of movies against lesser imaginary evil forces,

let's keep entertaining and promise that could be organized to attract any person giving 100$ would be granted a

re-installation of a softimage seat in a new softimage company (there need be hopes!)- let's re-base it in

montreal. there's a lack of logic in their robbery. it was a quality product. when you look at the people

who get inspired from, like adama smith the philosopher of the 18th century, everything is full of Logic.

something is hidden. light must be made. softimage seats disappear, we get hints on this now? it's sad. let's not give up

our seats!

[Leoung O'Young]

It is beyond me, how come the U.S. government let them buy these competing software.
Now we have Adobe and Autodesk and not much other choices.

[Pierre Schiller]

What is even beyond all of us, it´s the fact no user gets funded back nothing (who will pay for your hous/years invested in learning the software)?, you may answer: You did commercial work after paying the licence. Then this gets even better, since "breaking your businness" as a decision without your consent, up until where I remember that is called_________ .

Well...I let you fill in the blank....

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[Martin]

I hate what Adsk did, we all do.

But a refund?! for "wasting your time studying it"?

Come on...!

Should we get a refund for every software that I have bought, study and went EOL or stop getting updates? like Mudbox, all Macromedia stuff like Flash Free Hand, etc, or even Softimage 3D? (I didn't buy that one though)

I understand all the irrational rants because we were all affected, but it's been 3 years and we are still having these threads ?

My only complain now are the prices and rental systems. Now we have to pay more than twice the maintenance price for the subscription (rental) and the prices per project in the industry aren't exactly getting that much higher.

Btw we haven't changed to subscription yet. Does it worth it to do it now? I didn't have that option when I renovated our maintenance licenses but now I see a "special discount" campaign if you change to subscription now.

I did my maths, and their "special discount" campaign doesn't make much sense so I must be missing something, which could be the unannounced increasing rate of the price of Maintenance after 3 years.

Btw, we are still using Softimage in some of our projects. The rest is Maya 2016, and using Softimage as an external tool.

Martin

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[Sebastien Sterling]

I think it depends when you bought it, if you got it unwittingly 2 months before eol announced, and they didn't tell you, that is some bullshit.

On 6 Aug 2017 11:23, "Martin" <furi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hate what Adsk did, we all do.

But a refund?! for "wasting your time studying it"?

Come on...!

Should we get a refund for every software that I have bought, study and went EOL or stop getting updates? like Mudbox, all Macromedia stuff like Flash Free Hand, etc, or even Softimage 3D? (I didn't buy that one though)

I understand all the irrational rants because we were all affected, but it's been 3 years and we are still having these threads ?

My only complain now are the prices and rental systems. Now we have to pay more than twice the maintenance price for the subscription (rental) and the prices per project in the industry aren't exactly getting that much higher.

Btw we haven't changed to subscription yet. Does it worth it to do it now? I didn't have that option when I renovated our maintenance licenses but now I see a "special discount" campaign if you change to subscription now.

I did my maths, and their "special discount" campaign doesn't make much sense so I must be missing something, which could be the unannounced increasing rate of the price of Maintenance after 3 years.

Btw, we are still using Softimage in some of our projects. The rest is Maya 2016, and using Softimage as an external tool.

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2017, at 1:53, Pierre Schiller <activemotionpictures@gmail.com> wrote:

What is even beyond all of us, it´s the fact no user gets funded back nothing (who will pay for your hous/years invested in learning the software)?, you may answer: You did commercial work after paying the licence. Then this gets even better, since "breaking your businness" as a decision without your consent, up until where I remember that is called_________ .

Well...I let you fill in the blank....

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Leoung O'Young <digi...@digimata.com> wrote:

It is beyond me, how come the U.S. government let them buy these competing software.
Now we have Adobe and Autodesk and not much other choices.

On 8/4/2017 3:31 PM, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain wrote:

is there no labor unions or anything like user clubs or unions to organize,

crowdfund website a public group, try to crowdfund and buy the whole of autodesk (seriously)-

they seem dark evil, hollywood industry does plenty of movies against lesser imaginary evil forces,

let's keep entertaining and promise that could be organized to attract any person giving 100$ would be granted a

re-installation of a softimage seat in a new softimage company (there need be hopes!)- let's re-base it in

montreal. there's a lack of logic in their robbery. it was a quality product. when you look at the people

who get inspired from, like adama smith the philosopher of the 18th century, everything is full of Logic.

something is hidden. light must be made. softimage seats disappear, we get hints on this now? it's sad. let's not give up

our seats!

2017-08-04 20:52 GMT+02:00 Michael Amasio <michael...@gmail.com>:

Any updates on this topic would be greatly appreciated.  Especially any success stories.

I feel like companies willing to part with theirs would be smaller.  But animal logic (in Vancouver) is dropping xsi after this current show. ( though they've rumored that before ).  I'll walk across the street and see if that's really happening.

and the studio formerly known as nerdcorp is transitioning right now.

I called autodesk daily ( and our CTO )  almost every day in March of this year and tried to get them to sell our company a new license but they stood firm against it, all the way up the chain.

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