can I still get softimage?

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Chris Johnson

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:17:23 AM11/13/15
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Sorry guys....I disappeared from the list for a while...I'm sure this subject has come up a number of times!?

What is the cheapest/best way to get a license of soft? Or can I still even do that? Last time I touched base with a reseller I had to buy the Suite which was around $10,000 Canadian!



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Personal

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:21:50 AM11/13/15
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I think that is only option.

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Rob Chapman

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:29:53 AM11/13/15
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not necessarily only the suite, you can currently get Maya 2016 with softimage option. Standalone license with no maintenance.  have to be quick, this 'offer' wont be available for long as everything soon will be cloud subscription and softimage aint ever going to be on there

Chris Johnson

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:31:28 AM11/13/15
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Do you know what the cost of that is off hand? Around?

Oliver Weingarten

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:41:32 AM11/13/15
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Look here:

http://www.autodesk.com/products/softimage/overview

PDF: Softimage Last Release Announcement FAQ - Update

Quote:
"Customers who wish to purchase new or additional seats of Softimage 2015 can do so by purchasing either the Maya with Softimage or 3ds Max with Softimage transition offerings. These offerings are available via their local reseller and cannot be purchased through the Autodesk e-store. Each transition offering, Maya with Softimage or 3ds Max with Softimage, can be purchased as a new standalone license for the same price as a standalone license of Maya or 3ds Max. Please note that after the two-year transition period customers will no longer be able to purchase or rent new Softimage licenses or rental plans of the Softimage transition offerings from Autodesk. "

Cheers,
oli

Andres Stephens

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:42:42 AM11/13/15
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Around 3.5k USD..... 

Till February or April 2016, I think the offer is. 


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Date: 13/11/2015 08:31 (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: can I still get softimage?

Do you know what the cost of that is off hand? Around?
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Rob Chapman <tekan...@gmail.com> wrote:
not necessarily only the suite, you can currently get Maya 2016 with softimage option. Standalone license with no maintenance.  have to be quick, this 'offer' wont be available for long as everything soon will be cloud subscription and softimage aint ever going to be on there
On 13 November 2015 at 13:21, Personal <srecko...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think that is only option.

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On 13/11/2015 14:17:20, Chris Johnson <ch...@someonescousin.com> wrote:

Sorry guys....I disappeared from the list for a while...I'm sure this subject has come up a number of times!?

What is the cheapest/best way to get a license of soft? Or can I still even do that? Last time I touched base with a reseller I had to buy the Suite which was around $10,000 Canadian!



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Rob Chapman

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Nov 13, 2015, 8:43:07 AM11/13/15
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£2,262 per unit from XTFX 

Mr Alexei Godek

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Nov 13, 2015, 9:09:57 AM11/13/15
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My spider sense tingled

 

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£2,262 per unit from XTFX 

Martin

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Nov 13, 2015, 12:42:04 PM11/13/15
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Since autodesk licenses are restricted to where you purchased it, It will depend on where your are.

In Japan, it's about US$6K + $1K for subscription. (I'm rounding the number, It costs a little more than that) which I think is extremely expensive even if I'm having 1 EOL package for free.

No matter where you are, It should cost as much as a Maya/Max license.

Martin
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Chris Johnson

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Nov 23, 2015, 9:59:14 AM11/23/15
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Rob,

Any chance you know a reseller honoring this? The one I talked to here in Toronto does not. : (

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Rob Chapman <tekan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Derek Jenson

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Nov 23, 2015, 11:23:53 AM11/23/15
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I've done my best to keep up with the details of 'upgrading' to Softimage 2015, but still have a few questions; I have a network license of Softimage 2011sp2.

I likely should have upgraded when Autodesk still allowed upgrades, if I was going to switch to another AD tool. At the time I was quoted $2200 to bring my 2011 license up to 2015. However, I would have received a Maya/Max & Softimage standalone license in place of my network license, losing all my batch licenses. I was also in mid production with 2011, so trying to look ahead 2 years in this industry is impossible; things change quickly. Parting with with $$ for tools I can't use for at least a year just didn't make sense at the time. And honestly, I feel like I've been trying to protect myself against future AD decisions with the 'upgrade' offer... and that is not the relationship I want with a vendor.

So as I understand it, all 'upgrade' offers are for standalone, correct?
 And at this point there is no 'upgrade', they are simply offering a new Max/Maya & Softimage bundle product to existing holders of Softimage licenses; so I would retain my network 2011 license, correct?
In the US, this cost is $3600-3700?
And I could run both Softimage 2011sp2 and 2015sp2 at the same time, correct?
How has the license server changed from 2011 to 2015? It sounds like the client needs to check-in with an AD server?
Blender is open source and free right? Just joking, I know the answer to that one ;)

Any help with any of these questions is appreciated. My gut feeling is I will not upgrade, but will switch to another tool. I also feel that AD is pushing the monthly fee so I can easily pickup Max/Maya for a month here or there in the future as needed and keep my thou$ands under my pillow.

-Derek


Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:58:56 -0500

Subject: Re: can I still get softimage?

phil harbath

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Nov 23, 2015, 12:12:48 PM11/23/15
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I think you can only run 2 versions back and you have have to be on subscription to do that.

Rob Chapman

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Nov 23, 2015, 12:20:22 PM11/23/15
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Hi Chris xtfx is the reseller here in London that I use

Sven Constable

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Nov 23, 2015, 12:52:58 PM11/23/15
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It's hard to get information from AD in this regards and even resellers doesn't seem to know exactly whats possible in some cases.

 

The following reflects my knowledge. You should verify it with your reseller to make sure. Ask twice because sometimes, they may have outdated information or want to sell something different from what you want :) I got wrong infos in the first place from mine as well.

 

Upgrading existing licenses:

You can upgrade standalone and network licenses of Softimage to version 2015 from six version back (from version 2010 an up).

You can upgrade these licenses until Feb 2016. I did it end of last year and it was around 2,500 EUR. Until mid 2014 it was a few hundred bucks less.

You cannot upgrade Softimage alone anymore, you have to choose the bundle. No matter if you have network license or standalone.

Subscription isn't needed to upgrade an existing license.

 

Buying new licenses:

You *can* still buy additional licenses as an existing Softimage costumer until Feb 2016. But it’s the same deal as with upgrading, you will need to buy the bundle. AFAIK it's around 5,000EUR now.

Subscription isn't needed to buy additional licenses.

 

License management / flexlm:

flexlm had a few changes since 2010 but I used the old flexlm from xsi2011 (v11.7.0.0) with the new license file without problems. However if you're running an even older version then you may need to update the flexlm. I had this at a company when XSI2015 refused to start because they were running a very old flexlm version. AD changed licensing check via flexlm internally somehow.

 

You can combine your old license (xsi2011) and the new xsi2015 within one file. So yes you can run both versions simultaniously and have all batch render lics available as well as the mental ray lics. (5 per softimage seat plus the GUI version, resulting in 6 batchrender licences if your not using the GUI. In your case it would be two softimage versions at the same time and 10 batch render lics. However, you cannot use the batchrender lics from 2011 for 2015 scenes of course. Nor vice versa.

If the machine name and its'MAC ID didn't change for both versions just copy/paste the new license text into the old file and restart flexlm. I'm not sure about mixed server IDs in one file but instead you can just create a second service for the new license and run both.

 

AFAIK flexlm doesn't check with AD servers, since it's designed to work in closed environments. The companies license server or fileserver or wherever the flexlm is running on, usually have no internet access.

 

Hope this helps.

 

cheers,

Sven

phil harbath

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Nov 23, 2015, 1:08:49 PM11/23/15
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my reseller told me no more upgrades for any autodesk product since the January 2015 deadline (U.S.), on top of that, there is no longer a 1 month grace  period when paying maintenance (or whatever it is called now).

Daniel Brassard

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Nov 23, 2015, 1:14:30 PM11/23/15
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Hi Chris,

Did you try Scalar?


I deal with the office in Montreal but they have an office in Toronto.

My contact in Montreal is Joseph Ngo <josep...@scalar.ca>

Sven Constable

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Nov 23, 2015, 1:39:03 PM11/23/15
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I completely forgot about the Feb 2015 deadline.  So I was wrong about upgrading, sorry.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/customer-service/account-management/software-downloads/current-version/current-version-policy-faq

 

However buying new network licenses is still possible but for the ridiculous price of 5k bucks here in germany.

Chris Johnson

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Nov 23, 2015, 2:54:45 PM11/23/15
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I talked to scalar and as you'll see from the string, as a new purchase,  the only way to do it is buy the ultimate which is close to $10,000 CAD. : (

Maurice Patel

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Nov 23, 2015, 4:00:58 PM11/23/15
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You should still be able to purchase Autodesk Maya with Softimage. The product reference is:

977H1-WWR11C-1001 - Autodesk Maya 2016 with Softimage Commercial New SLM ELD.

I did a quick check and it seems that its available here.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1154841-REG/autodesk_977h1_wwr11c_1001_vc_maya_with_softimage_2016.html

There is also a 3ds Max version too.

Maurice


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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 2:54 PM
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Subject: Re: can I still get softimage?

I talked to scalar and as you'll see from the string, as a new purchase, the only way to do it is buy the ultimate which is close to $10,000 CAD. : (

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Daniel Brassard <dbras...@gmail.com<mailto:dbras...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Did you try Scalar?

https://www.scalar.ca/en/contact-us/

I deal with the office in Montreal but they have an office in Toronto.

My contact in Montreal is Joseph Ngo <josep...@scalar.ca<mailto:josep...@scalar.ca>>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Chris Johnson <ch...@someonescousin.com<mailto:ch...@someonescousin.com>> wrote:
Rob,
Any chance you know a reseller honoring this? The one I talked to here in Toronto does not. : (

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Rob Chapman <tekan...@gmail.com<mailto:tekan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
not necessarily only the suite, you can currently get Maya 2016 with softimage option. Standalone license with no maintenance. have to be quick, this 'offer' wont be available for long as everything soon will be cloud subscription and softimage aint ever going to be on there

On 13 November 2015 at 13:21, Personal <srecko...@gmail.com<mailto:srecko...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think that is only option.

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On 13/11/2015 14:17:20, Chris Johnson <ch...@someonescousin.com<mailto:ch...@someonescousin.com>> wrote:
Sorry guys....I disappeared from the list for a while...I'm sure this subject has come up a number of times!?
What is the cheapest/best way to get a license of soft? Or can I still even do that? Last time I touched base with a reseller I had to buy the Suite which was around $10,000 Canadian!



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Chris Johnson

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Nov 23, 2015, 4:12:24 PM11/23/15
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Hey Maurice,

What would the reasoning be that Max is more then $2000 more then Maya?

Chris Johnson

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Thanks for the link by the way!

Maurice Patel

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Nov 23, 2015, 5:58:08 PM11/23/15
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Hi Chris,

Max should be the same price

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1154830-REG/autodesk_978h1_wwr111_1001_vc_3ds_max_with_softimage.html

maurice

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Hey Maurice,
What would the reasoning be that Max is more then $2000 more then Maya?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Maurice Patel <mauric...@autodesk.com<mailto:mauric...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
You should still be able to purchase Autodesk Maya with Softimage. The product reference is:

977H1-WWR11C-1001 - Autodesk Maya 2016 with Softimage Commercial New SLM ELD.

I did a quick check and it seems that its available here.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1154841-REG/autodesk_977h1_wwr11c_1001_vc_maya_with_softimage_2016.html

There is also a 3ds Max version too.

Maurice


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From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 2:54 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: can I still get softimage?

I talked to scalar and as you'll see from the string, as a new purchase, the only way to do it is buy the ultimate which is close to $10,000 CAD. : (

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Daniel Brassard <dbras...@gmail.com<mailto:dbras...@gmail.com><mailto:dbras...@gmail.com<mailto:dbras...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Did you try Scalar?

https://www.scalar.ca/en/contact-us/

I deal with the office in Montreal but they have an office in Toronto.

My contact in Montreal is Joseph Ngo <josep...@scalar.ca<mailto:josep...@scalar.ca><mailto:josep...@scalar.ca<mailto:josep...@scalar.ca>>>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Chris Johnson <ch...@someonescousin.com<mailto:ch...@someonescousin.com><mailto:ch...@someonescousin.com<mailto:ch...@someonescousin.com>>> wrote:
Rob,
Any chance you know a reseller honoring this? The one I talked to here in Toronto does not. : (

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Rob Chapman <tekan...@gmail.com<mailto:tekan...@gmail.com><mailto:tekan...@gmail.com<mailto:tekan...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
not necessarily only the suite, you can currently get Maya 2016 with softimage option. Standalone license with no maintenance. have to be quick, this 'offer' wont be available for long as everything soon will be cloud subscription and softimage aint ever going to be on there

On 13 November 2015 at 13:21, Personal <srecko...@gmail.com<mailto:srecko...@gmail.com><mailto:srecko...@gmail.com<mailto:srecko...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
I think that is only option.

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Sorry guys....I disappeared from the list for a while...I'm sure this subject has come up a number of times!?
What is the cheapest/best way to get a license of soft? Or can I still even do that? Last time I touched base with a reseller I had to buy the Suite which was around $10,000 Canadian!



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Stephen Blair

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Nov 23, 2015, 5:59:04 PM11/23/15
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The reason is that you are looking at different product (3DS Max Creation Suite with Softimage).
3DS Max with Softimage Standalone is the same price as Maya with Softimage Standalone:


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Sven Constable

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To the ppl with network licenses: You should try it, even the statement from ADs website is pretty clear. I think the main (if not the only) reason for the Feb 2015 deadline was because of subscription and the one year maintenance plus the ability to upgrade to future versions (2016). If your gonna upgrade without subscription there might be a little chance to get it, if it's a network license.

 

Did anyone talk to his reseller about upgrading a network license at this time?

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Martin

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Nov 23, 2015, 7:19:34 PM11/23/15
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Just in case, you don't need to be a Softimage user to be able to buy a Maya with Softimage bundle.


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Sven Constable

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"At the time I was quoted $2200 to bring my 2011 license up to 2015. However, I would have received a Maya/Max & Softimage standalone license in place of my network license, losing all my batch licenses."

 

That was wrong information by your reseller. You could have upgraded your existing floating license to XSI2015 until the Feb 1st 2015 deadline. Remaining all batch licenses because it was an upgrade of your existing network license. The price sounds similar to what I was told at the time (in EUR). I upgraded my network license from 2011 to 2015 in Nov 2014.   

 

sven

 


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Maurice Patel

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Nov 24, 2015, 9:15:25 AM11/24/15
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This is correct you can still purchase standalone or network versions until Feb 1st 2016
maurice

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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:43 PM
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"At the time I was quoted $2200 to bring my 2011 license up to 2015. However, I would have received a Maya/Max & Softimage standalone license in place of my network license, losing all my batch licenses."

That was wrong information by your reseller. You could have upgraded your existing floating license to XSI2015 until the Feb 1st 2015 deadline. Remaining all batch licenses because it was an upgrade of your existing network license. The price sounds similar to what I was told at the time (in EUR). I upgraded my network license from 2011 to 2015 in Nov 2014.

sven

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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 PM
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Subject: RE: can I still get softimage?

I've done my best to keep up with the details of 'upgrading' to Softimage 2015, but still have a few questions; I have a network license of Softimage 2011sp2.

I likely should have upgraded when Autodesk still allowed upgrades, if I was going to switch to another AD tool. At the time I was quoted $2200 to bring my 2011 license up to 2015. However, I would have received a Maya/Max & Softimage standalone license in place of my network license, losing all my batch licenses. I was also in mid production with 2011, so trying to look ahead 2 years in this industry is impossible; things change quickly. Parting with with $$ for tools I can't use for at least a year just didn't make sense at the time. And honestly, I feel like I've been trying to protect myself against future AD decisions with the 'upgrade' offer... and that is not the relationship I want with a vendor.

So as I understand it, all 'upgrade' offers are for standalone, correct?
And at this point there is no 'upgrade', they are simply offering a new Max/Maya & Softimage bundle product to existing holders of Softimage licenses; so I would retain my network 2011 license, correct?
In the US, this cost is $3600-3700?
And I could run both Softimage 2011sp2 and 2015sp2 at the same time, correct?
How has the license server changed from 2011 to 2015? It sounds like the client needs to check-in with an AD server?
Blender is open source and free right? Just joking, I know the answer to that one ;)

Any help with any of these questions is appreciated. My gut feeling is I will not upgrade, but will switch to another tool. I also feel that AD is pushing the monthly fee so I can easily pickup Max/Maya for a month here or there in the future as needed and keep my thou$ands under my pillow.

-Derek
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Rob,
Any chance you know a reseller honoring this? The one I talked to here in Toronto does not. : (

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Rob Chapman <tekan...@gmail.com<mailto:tekan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
not necessarily only the suite, you can currently get Maya 2016 with softimage option. Standalone license with no maintenance. have to be quick, this 'offer' wont be available for long as everything soon will be cloud subscription and softimage aint ever going to be on there

On 13 November 2015 at 13:21, Personal <srecko...@gmail.com<mailto:srecko...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think that is only option.

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On 13/11/2015 14:17:20, Chris Johnson <ch...@someonescousin.com<mailto:ch...@someonescousin.com>> wrote:
Sorry guys....I disappeared from the list for a while...I'm sure this subject has come up a number of times!?
What is the cheapest/best way to get a license of soft? Or can I still even do that? Last time I touched base with a reseller I had to buy the Suite which was around $10,000 Canadian!



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Chris Johnson

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Yaaayyyyyy...happy days....breaking out the Visa now!

Derek Jenson

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Nov 24, 2015, 11:45:40 AM11/24/15
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Sorry not trying to be thick, just seeking a crystal clear answer.

As I understand, my 2011sp2 license is not upgrade-able now? I can not convert this license to a 2015sp2 license or Max/Maya plus Softimage 2015 license?

A Max/Maya 2016 plus Softimage 2015 product is available as a new purchase only? And only to Softimage license holders (is that legal in the US, restricting a product to a subset of people)?

And this transaction would need to happen before what date? January 1st, 2016? February 1st, 2016? April 1st, 2016?

Thanks for the clarity!

-Derek

Maurice Patel

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Nov 24, 2015, 12:42:38 PM11/24/15
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Hi Derek,
Most of what you said is accurate. Just to be clear:
All upgrades were discontinued at the start of this year. Your only option today is to purchase a new license of either Maya with Softimage or 3ds Max with Softimage. You must do this before February 1st 2016 which is the start of Autodesk's next fiscal year. At that point Softimage will be fully retired from sales. Anyone can purchase the software, there is no requirement to already have a license.
maurice


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Derek Jenson

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Nov 24, 2015, 12:44:57 PM11/24/15
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Thank you for the clarity. And who exactly would I make the purchase though? I live in Oregon.


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Maurice Patel

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It would be through your local reseller. I am not sure who that is but there is 3DV in Portland.

http://autodesk.force.com/plocator/PLocatorMapView?id=a5z300000004DQdAAM&cnt=United%20States&lang=en

Since there is almost no demand for Softimage any more it is possible that they might not be familiar with the product and its availability so just take along the reference numbers I posted earlier and they should be able to help you order it. Alternatively you can purchase from B&H - the links I forwarded earlier.

maurice

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Thank you for the clarity. And who exactly would I make the purchase though? I live in Oregon.
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Tim Crowson

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You can also get it from B&H online.

-Tim
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phil harbath

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to get network you have to buy from reseller?  how much more?
 
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You can also get it from B&H online.

-Tim

On 11/24/2015 11:52 AM, Maurice Patel wrote:
It would be through your local reseller. I am not sure who that is but there is 3DV in Portland.

http://autodesk.force.com/plocator/PLocatorMapView?id=a5z300000004DQdAAM&cnt=United%20States&lang=en

Since there is almost no demand for Softimage any more it is possible that they might not be familiar with the product and its availability so just take along the reference numbers I posted earlier and they should be able to help you order it. Alternatively you can purchase from B&H - the links I forwarded earlier.

maurice

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Subject: RE: can I still get softimage?

Thank you for the clarity. And who exactly would I make the purchase though? I live in Oregon.
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Subject: RE: can I still get softimage?
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:42:20 +0000
Hi Derek,
Most of what you said is accurate. Just to be clear:
All upgrades were discontinued at the start of this year. Your only option today is to purchase a new license of either Maya with Softimage or 3ds Max with Softimage. You must do this before February 1st 2016 which is the start of Autodesk's next fiscal year. At that point Softimage will be fully retired from sales. Anyone can purchase the software, there is no requirement to already have a license.
maurice



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Maurice Patel

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Yes. It is typically 25% more though actual pricing may vary
maurice

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to get network you have to buy from reseller? how much more?

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You can also get it from B&H online<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1154841-REG/autodesk_977h1_wwr11c_1001_vc_maya_with_softimage_2016.html>.

-Tim
On 11/24/2015 11:52 AM, Maurice Patel wrote:

It would be through your local reseller. I am not sure who that is but there is 3DV in Portland.



http://autodesk.force.com/plocator/PLocatorMapView?id=a5z300000004DQdAAM&cnt=United%20States&lang=en



Since there is almost no demand for Softimage any more it is possible that they might not be familiar with the product and its availability so just take along the reference numbers I posted earlier and they should be able to help you order it. Alternatively you can purchase from B&H - the links I forwarded earlier.



maurice



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Thank you for the clarity. And who exactly would I make the purchase though? I live in Oregon.

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Derek Jenson

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Nov 24, 2015, 2:40:38 PM11/24/15
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Another question- is FBX 2015 export/import absent from Softimage 2015? After some digging, it appears so. I do mostly interactive work, just trying to figure out what is included and what is not in 2015. Does SI 2015 ship with FBX 2014?
 

 

 

Sven Constable

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Nov 24, 2015, 6:24:28 PM11/24/15
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It comes with FBX 2010 -2014 (FBXSDK 7.4)

 

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Another question- is FBX 2015 export/import absent from Softimage 2015? After some digging, it appears so. I do mostly interactive work, just trying to figure out what is included and what is not in 2015. Does SI 2015 ship with FBX 2014?

 

 

 

Hsiao Ming Chia

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Actually Softimage 2015 is using FBX 2015.
The export dialog only shows up to FBX 2014 because FBX 2015 is still based on the same file version as FBX 2014.

Thanks,
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Derek Jenson

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FBX 2014 & 2015 are using version number 7.4 correct? But Softimage 2015 FBX export has been updated to (compiled against) the FBX 2015 SDK? Will this update make it to the AD Crosswalk download page at some point-
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/3ds-max/downloads/caas/downloads/content/autodesk-crosswalk.html
The setup .exe for 2015 (for Softimage) is absent from the list.

If there is still time to get some eyes on the FBX exporter, it would be great to have someone look at this old bug I submitted back in 2011. The short version is Softimage writes tangent data to the vertex colors data block and doesn't write vertex colors into the vertex colors block. Last I checked, no fix was made for Crosswalk 2014. I was communicating with Yanick about the problem in 2011... but a lot of seats changed places at AD, and this issue was never fixed.

Feel free to email me at email[at]derekjenson.com if you need test cases. Would be willing to test for a setup_Crosswalk_2015_windows.exe installer (linux too!). You can download my old test case here-
http://www.derekjenson.com/uploads/6/3/8/7/6387905/tangentbugreport.zip



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Hsiao Ming Chia

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Yes, both FBX 2014 & 2015 use the same version number 7.4.
And Softimage 2015 FBX export is compiled against FBX 2015 SDK.

Please find Crosswalk 2015 available as a zip/tar.gz on the download page.
However, the packages only contain .dotXSI plugins for Maya and 3dsMax 2015.
We are no longer providing FBX plugins for previous releases of Softimage.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming
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